Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: Flinty on 13 March 2021, 04:22:46 PM
Title: 20mm Chieftain help
Post by: Flinty on 13 March 2021, 04:22:46 PM
Bit wierd sin't it - iconic Cold War AFV and so little choice in 20mm/1:72. I have the Revell Leopard, Marder and T-72 and I want the Brits to match that sort of detail.
I have a couple of Grubby's version, but they aren't quite scratching my itch. The Fabbri et al diecast look a bit soft. Matador look good, but never tried or seen anyone use anything of thiers before - and I can't quite justify buying a couple (and a platoon's worth of 432's) without feeling guilty... I have been eyeing the Takom kits (plus the 432 of course) - but worried they'd be a bit fiddly/delicate and if I want 4 x 432 that would run to £120, slightly cheaper than Matador I suppose.
This could be my OCD, combined with a frustrated 'Oh Shiney' syndrome of course, especially as I'll probably smother them in scrim and obscure the detail.
Am I missing anything or just too finickity?
Title: Re: 20mm Cheiftan help
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on 13 March 2021, 04:41:29 PM
Airfix have a 1/76 Chieftain If you are patient, you could get them from eBay quite cheaply.
Title: Re: 20mm Cheiftan help
Post by: Flinty on 13 March 2021, 11:58:57 PM
Ah, thanks- I need to keep looking, I've been put of seeing the £25 Airfix collectors auctions.
Still think its odd the market is so limited...
Title: Re: 20mm Cheiftan help
Post by: carlos marighela on 14 March 2021, 12:26:00 AM
If you are going to detail them yourself, yet want something robust for the table then there are a number of 1/72 diecasts out there. Search for Amercom, Altaya, IXO etc. All seem to have acceptable levels of detail and there are even versions in the Berlin Brigade camo scheme, which would possibly save a lot of masking and spraying heartache should you wish to do Berlin. I’m still summoning my nerve to tackle a 1/48 Chieftain in that scheme.
Title: Re: 20mm Cheiftan help
Post by: Harry Faversham on 14 March 2021, 01:01:42 AM
'Harry's Chieftains', the first three are resin models, the one at the back without a base is diecast...
Title: Re: 20mm Cheiftan help
Post by: SJWi on 14 March 2021, 05:40:32 AM
If you can go with a "simple" kit, Battlefront produce a pack of 5 Chieftains in their "Team Yankee" range. Wayland Games sell these for £24 whihc is pretty good value . The mention of "Stillbrew" armour would make them quite late versions (Mk10-12?). IMHO these Battlefront kits are very nicely detailed but obviously not up the level of the best kits. For other British kit including stowage look at S&S Models who produce quite a few models plus conversion sets.
Title: Re: 20mm Cheiftan help
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 14 March 2021, 01:09:21 PM
If you can go with a "simple" kit, Battlefront produce a pack of 5 Chieftains in their "Team Yankee" range.
I thought Team Yankee was 15mm (1/100) not 20mm (1/76 - 1/72).
Title: Re: 20mm Cheiftan help
Post by: SJWi on 14 March 2021, 03:46:08 PM
You are correct. Battlefront are 1/100. Early morning brain-freeze! Ignore my suggestion.
Title: Re: 20mm Cheiftan help
Post by: Flinty on 16 March 2021, 10:57:12 PM
Cheers Chaps
Carlos - true, probably worth a punt on one to see what they look like in the err....flesh. Dead right about the Berlin camo, hence Ive placed myself just east of Hannover.
Harry - spot on - since thats the look Im hoping for, seeing yours scrimmed up, I should stop being fussy.
Title: Re: 20mm Cheiftan help
Post by: SJWi on 17 March 2021, 05:14:17 AM
By the way, with reference to the Berlin Brigade camo I had he same trepidation but hand-painted it on some of my 15mm Chieftains and FV432/Rarden. A steady hand seemed to work OK and I was surprisingly pleased with the result.
Title: Re: 20mm Chieftain help
Post by: sandsmodels on 28 March 2021, 07:24:35 PM
we s and s models will have several chieftain models in 1/72 finished off soon. most of it is done and moulded.
Title: Re: 20mm Chieftain help
Post by: Shahbahraz on 29 March 2021, 12:15:39 AM
Hi, the Airfix kit comes out ok, but it is an old kit and the moulding does need a bit of work to get it acceptable, principally, the seam down the middle of the turret.
Title: Re: 20mm Chieftain help
Post by: Flinty on 30 March 2021, 08:58:29 PM
Seam or not they turned out nice!
But....
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most of it is done and moulded
Yayyy, cheers Shaun, I shall keep my eyes peeled.
Title: Re: 20mm Chieftain help
Post by: bluewillow on 23 April 2021, 08:14:51 AM
S and S models are now available, I used diecast ones, plus I picked up some old airfix kits recently
Cheers Matt
Title: Re: 20mm Chieftain help
Post by: Gwres on 23 April 2021, 09:23:49 AM
Sgts Mess Miniatures do a Mark V which are nicely cast in resin.
Title: Re: 20mm Chieftain help
Post by: nickdives on 08 November 2021, 02:57:56 PM
Late to the party, and Wee Friends used to do a good upgrade pack. I have a few diecasts, S&S, Grubby Tanks, Cromwell Models and Sgts Mess. The good thin is that in the 80s there could be a variety of different marks within a Sqn with the rolling process of tanks going of the the Base workshops for upgrading.
Title: Re: 20mm Chieftain help
Post by: sandsmodels on 09 November 2021, 07:54:40 PM
good point nick the s&s ones are a mk9 and a mk11 stillbrew along with an avre, arv and soon abridgelayer, full models.