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Title: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Diablo Jon on 26 March 2021, 02:13:32 PM
Looking around most ranges of Anglo Saxons seem to be aimed at " Age of Arthur" 4-5th century or latter Viking age/ Anglo Danish. If one wanted to recreate Anglo Saxons for the wars of Penda, Ine and Offa what range of 28mm miniatures would be a good place to start?

Any help gratefully received.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on 26 March 2021, 02:29:01 PM
North Star used to sell a range of Saxon warriors based on art from this intermediate period, though I don’t recall the manufacturer, so don’t know whether it’s still available. I’m sure Nick can update you on this.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: SJWi on 26 March 2021, 04:13:15 PM
Andrew, I think the range you are thinking of are Tanatus Miniatures. Unfortunately Northstar no longer seem to stock them. The Gripping Beast Saxons come in two variants, small buckler or “large” shield. I think the “large” shield figures may be OK for 7th century.

 Apart from these I know of no other suitable figures.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on 26 March 2021, 04:28:32 PM
Yes that’s the name. I remember looking at them several times but never got around to buying them, with the obvious consequences.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Atheling on 26 March 2021, 06:35:55 PM
Though it pains me to say it, Black Tree design have a great range that is spot on but, I would advise anyone to refrain from ordering from them as they have had a terrible track record over the years.

One read through of this thread ought to tell you all you need to know:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=112741.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=112741.0)
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: carlos marighela on 26 March 2021, 08:17:33 PM
Eureka do a range of Beowulf and his retinue. It’s not huge but the retinue itself includes static and action poses for each member. There are also other potentially useful figures in the broader range. Exquisite sculpts.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Diablo Jon on 26 March 2021, 08:21:09 PM
Thanks for the info guys.

 The Tanatus were very handsome looking miniatures though from what I could see on the net they didn't really match any one else's miniatures with their proportions.

I wouldn't touch black tree designs with someone else's pole so they are a no go.


 
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Atheling on 26 March 2021, 08:25:14 PM
Thanks for the info guys.

 The Tanatus were very handsome looking miniatures though from what I could see on the net they didn't really match any one else's miniatures with their proportions.

They are quite slender.

I wouldn't touch black tree designs with someone else's pole so they are a no go.

Me neither which is why I pointed out that they were not to be trusted.

It might be worth checking eBay etc to see if you can pick some up second hand. They are perfect for the 7-8th CE.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Diablo Jon on 26 March 2021, 08:26:02 PM
Eureka do a range of Beowulf and his retinue. It’s not huge but the retinue itself includes static and action poses for each member. There are also other potentially useful figures in the broader range. Exquisite sculpts.

Yes I was looking at those earlier some of the Great Thegan's look a little fanciful but Beowulf's bodyguard look nice the certainly have the Sutton Hoo look going on.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Ragnar on 26 March 2021, 09:19:22 PM
Footsore Early Saxons should also suit, although I notice that there is not the option for large shields.  Large shields can be bought separately.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Atheling on 26 March 2021, 09:37:03 PM
Footsore Early Saxons should also suit, although I notice that there is not the option for large shields.  Large shields can be bought separately.

I bought quite a few and requested that they be supplied with large shields and Footsore were very accommodating. Very cool guys.  8)
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on 27 March 2021, 03:30:15 AM
Though it pains me to say it, Black Tree design have a great range that is spot on but, I would advise anyone to refrain from ordering from them as they have had a terrible track record over the years.

One read through of this thread ought to tell you all you need to know:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=112741.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=112741.0)

It's funny, I have seen a lot written about the bad service.  I have made three orders through them over the years and had no problems and neither has a friend of mine.  Possibly service may be a bit hit and miss.  I would say they are worth a punt.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: SJWi on 27 March 2021, 05:29:22 AM
I've just had a look at Black Tree and would agree that some figures look suitable. However IMHO they seem to mix 6/7th century figures with later styles in the same pack. Not an ideal situation. When I looked last night they were also on "special offer"  but that may be ending.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Hincmar on 27 March 2021, 07:22:24 AM

I have a bunch of the Tanatus Saxons (and the Picts, which complement the Saxons as unarmoured Fyrd as well as for their primary purpose of being their adversaries).   It is very sad that the range was never expanded and is no longer available, as they are perfect for the period, being based on the Aberlemno Stone, I believe), and the sculpting is exquisite.   If I remember correctly, Roy Eastland the sculptor deliberately sculpted them in a slender style to match the GW LOTR range.   I'm using mine for mid-Third Century Middle Earth gaming (Fall of Arnor) as they don't really fit any other the other (bulkier) historical ranges of the period.   The closest in scale are the Arthurian ranges by Newline and Foundry.

Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Atheling on 27 March 2021, 09:03:57 AM
t is very sad that the range was never expanded and is no longer available

I had no idea that the range was no longer available. Might it not be the case that due to Covid and the restrictions on casting at NS that the range might have merely been discontinued for a while?

I've just had a look at Black Tree and would agree that some figures look suitable. However IMHO they seem to mix 6/7th century figures with later styles in the same pack. Not an ideal situation. When I looked last night they were also on "special offer"  but that may be ending.

Hi SJWi. I think the "Special Offer" is a ruse to entice people to part with their money. They may or may not get their order; but if so, that usually takes a very long time. Often more then a year.

It's funny, I have seen a lot written about the bad service.  I have made three orders through them over the years and had no problems and neither has a friend of mine.  Possibly service may be a bit hit and miss.  I would say they are worth a punt.

You're definitely in a small minority. They have been up to their "funny business" since the days of The WAB Forum so I'm guessing there have been consistent complaints for over 15 years. Perhaps longer.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: SJWi on 27 March 2021, 10:14:35 AM
Atheling, thanks. To be honest I have never bought from Black Tree myself. The message traffic on this website has been enough to put me off  , and there are other manufacturers out there who produce excellent products and offer great service!
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Hincmar on 27 March 2021, 10:59:14 AM
Yes, I guess they might be made available again after COVID,  Can't quite remember why they were pulled.   A shame as I would have loved to seen the range expanded.

On BTD, I ordered a batch once from their range of Kevin Adams-sculpted Orcs (ex-Heartbreaker, I think) and the package was delivered pretty quickly.   However, I just think that was a lucky strike and based on the consistently negative feedback would never do so again.  Where we are talking about people making substantial orders and never receiving them or if they do, after many months of delay and chasers, I just don't think a "lucky strike" on the off-chance is any basis for parting with my hard-earned cash.   
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Duncan McDane on 27 March 2021, 01:00:25 PM
I would be interested in getting a couple of thanatus models ( as in, enough for a small warband ). Does anyone know who owns the right of selling & casting them atm?
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Atheling on 27 March 2021, 01:02:33 PM
I would be interested in getting a couple of thanatus models ( as in, enough for a small warband ). Does anyone know who owns the right of selling & casting them atm?

This is a bit of a guess but as far as I know, North Star retired the range temporarily as they didn't have the staff to continue casting all of their ranges due to Covid restrictions.

It might well be worth firing an email to Nick and asking  ???
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Ten Fingered Jack on 27 March 2021, 01:03:24 PM
Gripping Beast does a range of Saxon/ Germanic figs advertised as suitable for 6th & 7th centuries. A little early but may fit the bill. They even do a Penda figure.
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Duncan McDane on 27 March 2021, 01:05:22 PM
Thanks Atheling, will do ( if Nick doesn't read this thread first  lol )
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: Atheling on 27 March 2021, 01:50:53 PM
Thanks Atheling, will do ( if Nick doesn't read this thread first  lol )

He just might  lol
Title: Re: 28mm Minis for 7-8th century Anglo-Saxons?
Post by: AlarictheGoth on 27 March 2021, 11:14:12 PM
https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/saxons  Not sure if either Saxon line will cover the period for you but Warlord Games carries the Saxon Miniatures range. Similar to some of the older Gripping Beast(same sculpter), I like them as general purpose troops. However not as dynamic or detailed as Footsore