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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: Curassier on 28 May 2021, 11:29:35 AM

Title: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Curassier on 28 May 2021, 11:29:35 AM

I have been disappointed with the size of Rubicon plastic figures but does anyone have any experience of using Rubicon WW2 vehicles with 28mm figures. I am wondering if their forthcoming Vietnam AFV  range might be usable or are they likely to be "too small" ?
JM

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Wyrmalla on 28 May 2021, 01:04:02 PM

All of Rubicon's vehicles are scaled to 1/56th. Their upcoming Vietnam range will be the same - though they have said that their infantry for that period may be a little thicker (whilst, at least from the pictures shown off, still sharing the general look of their WWII models).

If you're looking for 1/48th - 1/50th then that's what most other manufacturers are doing to be honest. Rubicon's just bucking the trend as that's their preferred scale, and started out doing WWII models for wargaming; where 1/56th is more the standard.

I use 1/56th scale vehicles exclusively - having sold off all my 1/50th models years ago. They pare much better with more realistically proportioned figures like the WWII stuff out of Rubicon, Offensive Miniatures, Perry Miniatures, Wargames Factory, Eureka, Reiver Castings, etc. :)

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Ewart on 28 May 2021, 03:10:21 PM

Plastic Cold War vehicles seems ideal to me.

I would have preferred 1/48th, but as long as I can clip it and glue it and paint it, I'll be happy I think.

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Curassier on 28 May 2021, 03:15:22 PM

Useful guys thanks.
JM

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 28 May 2021, 06:56:48 PM

Depends on your 28mm figures (and your basing).
Crooked Dice William Killian and a Rubicon Kettenkraftrad.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nqcsTr8EjDU/XLmzzDuV3HI/AAAAAAAAFTY/Lpym1v1oH_c2Yt_ne07if7BghN6msR74QCLcBGAs/s1600/sdkfz2-6.png)

Warlord Opel Blitz
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-itD_9O5YOW4/XB9C33hBU3I/AAAAAAAAEd0/dNgiHIRmeWQrQlt5Ec0nqD8PlUz251HQgCLcBGAs/s1600/wgblitz7.png)

Empress Panzer 1 Ausf B (Breda)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YUbU6yU1o70/WlpTza8zsCI/AAAAAAAAC4Q/-p5UpolbfCUssADSz9dXHk6hTxFyTAfmwCLcBGAs/s1600/pz1b-31.png)

Rubicon Studebaker
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qk9Q0W-8fq0/WWXDgDTG0sI/AAAAAAAACgs/63Tp61uJ7fYhD2AOYjb0zi7EkDgWwfK8QCLcBGAs/s1600/studebaker6.png)

Crooked Dice Minions plus Harlequin Brigadier hide a Warlord lorry.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GBlAwjw5ud0/UCH9P_qWZBI/AAAAAAAAAO0/28QJggdU760/s1600/unit2.png)

Empress USMC and Company B VW Beetle.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4XZmZeadWv8/XhtROmSAKFI/AAAAAAAAGFI/MM8px1ToIpsU2_MaLKjMoImHh9DcLC12ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/morescale1.png)

Empress USMC and Rubicon T34/85
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4WsM6U_8ffc/XhtROqE-F4I/AAAAAAAAGFM/nID_hQbs728yW9Fbd4vO3WP8zV3n_AbwACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/morescale2.png)

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 28 May 2021, 07:02:45 PM

Comparison Type 82/Beetle.

Company B (1/56), Tamiya 1/48 (quarter scale), Cheap Diecast 1/43 (O Gauge).
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SlvCYgFWL6g/XQUyTDWEdbI/AAAAAAAAFns/O29CcmbXxnkK1jMQbZAg3L4XwaCj0szvQCLcBGAs/s1600/vwcompare3scales.png)

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Curassier on 28 May 2021, 07:34:44 PM

Useful stuff.
Looks like if one is going to use there Rubicion AFV's then they will at least need to be based like the figures.
JM

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Captain Blood on 28 May 2021, 07:43:44 PM

I use Rubicon, Perry and Blitzkrieg vehicles, and there’s no greatly appreciable size difference. They’re all 1/56 scale and work perfectly with Perry WW2 figures.

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/39/577-230719155521-39865221.jpeg)


I imagine if you’re using chunky metal 28s though, or the bigger and more caricatured Warlord plastics, then the figures might look a bit outsized compared to the vehicles.

Many, many pictures of the figures and vehicles in my LAF WW2 Western Desert gallery:

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=470;u=577

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 28 May 2021, 08:27:45 PM

I have built numerous Rubicon kits, and I think they work just fine with pretty much all current 28mm ranges (my WW2 collection is predominantly old Black Tree, old BAM, and Perry minis), provided the figures are flat-based. For figures based on slottabases or similar MDF thickness, 1/50 or 1/48 might look better.

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Curassier on 29 May 2021, 11:38:28 AM

All really helpful guys. I am just not a fan of resin AFV's and prefer making a plastic kit.
I will devise some kind of basing system for the Rubicon AFV's and hopefully will be able to use the Empress figures as crew.

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: CapnJim on 29 May 2021, 11:44:50 PM

I have one of their Shermans and an SdKfz251, and I think they work fine with my 28mm figs (I use figures from a fair few manufacturers) . 

If you'd like, I can take some pics with the vehicles and my WW2 GIs and Germans. 

I don't yet have any of their post-WW2 stuff.  So far, all my post-WW2 vehicles are die-casts.

 

Title: Re: RUBICON AFV's
Post by: Wyrmalla on 30 May 2021, 05:19:22 PM

Gotta remember that the Sd.kfz 251 was the size of a long transit van in the real world. These vehicles aren't huge. :D