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Title: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 23 June 2021, 10:13:10 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vlHSADh.jpg)
Looking for some metal masked luchador figs suitable for 1960's El Santo, Blue Demon, and Mil Mascaras to square off against my collection of vampires, wolf men, mummies, etc. etc.
I can't seem to find any anywhere...   :(
There were once some Golgo Island ones at East Riding Miniatures but they have closed.
Looking preferably for 32mm size, but I'll take what I can get!
Many thanks if anyone can point me toward something suitable or mention a shop where Golgo Island figs are currently being sold.
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Dags on 23 June 2021, 10:35:54 AM
Reaper do one

https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/wrestler/price/50035
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 23 June 2021, 10:42:39 AM
Reaper do one

Oho! I thought I'd seen all the Reaper figs!  :o I did not know about that one! Gracias!  :)
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: JollyBob on 23 June 2021, 12:00:11 PM
This one is resin, rather than metal, but its a lovely figure and paints up wonderfully:

https://ttcombat.com/collections/rumbleslam/products/henchilada

TTCombat also do some Halfling Luchadors if you want something a little more comedy...
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 23 June 2021, 12:21:14 PM
Thanks, I had seen those but I'm an old fogey, and every time I have bought a resin miniature I have felt very disappointed. Probably because so much 1980's nostalgia is bound up in the feeling of the weighty metal ones for me.
Also, resin figs fare rather poorly when the cat nicks them from the games table and nibbles them.  ;)
Thanks for trying to help though.  :)
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: JollyBob on 23 June 2021, 12:31:45 PM
No worries, as a child of the 70s myself I can understand the hefty pull of lead based nostalgia.  lol

I'm afraid I haven't seen any other luchadors out there, but does someone not make a sprue of separate heads in balaclavas or something that might be easy to make conversions with? Just thinking of the photo you posted of the mask and regular clothes combos.
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: FierceKitty on 23 June 2021, 12:45:22 PM
Thanks, I had seen those but I'm an old fogey, and every time I have bought a resin miniature I have felt very disappointed. Probably because so much 1980's nostalgia is bound up in the feeling of the weighty metal ones for me.
Also, resin figs fare rather poorly when the cat nicks them from the games table and nibbles them.  ;)
Thanks for trying to help though.  :)

Probably not too healthy for kitty either.
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 23 June 2021, 02:36:40 PM
Probably not too healthy for kitty either.

Good point that.  :)
(https://i.imgur.com/kuj1fCl.jpg)
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Cat on 23 June 2021, 08:41:33 PM
TTCombat also do some Halfling Luchadors if you want something a little more comedy...

Actually, little people masked luchadores feature prominently in the Blue Demon movies.  I have a couple of them on DVD — no subtitles or dubbing and my Spanish is pretty rusty, but I can follow about 20% of the dialogue.  I've never quite been able to figure out why the baddie with all the red shirt short luchadores has been kidnapping the beauty queen girlfriends of our hero luchadores; but that doesn't detract at all from my enjoyment of the movies!
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 24 June 2021, 10:12:50 AM

Actually, little people masked luchadores feature prominently in the Blue Demon movies.  I have a couple of them on DVD — no subtitles or dubbing and my Spanish is pretty rusty, but I can follow about 20% of the dialogue.  I've never quite been able to figure out why the baddie with all the red shirt short luchadores has been kidnapping the beauty queen girlfriends of our hero luchadores; but that doesn't detract at all from my enjoyment of the movies!

That film was Los Campeones Justcieros; the beauty queens are the respective goddaughters of each of the featured wrestlers. The mad scientist el Mano Negra plans to put them into suspended animation and program their brains as they sleep to create manchurian candidate killers he can use to topple governments, etc. etc.
The midget luchadores are given super strength first through an machine which imbues them with an electrical charge (which is later found to wear off) and later by wearing a special bracelet. The mad scientist claims that he chose midgets because they have "the resentment necessary to want to dominate all of humanity" (but the subtext is that he chose midgets because it is painfully obvious that they are the only people who will fit into the teeny-tiny super-science machine which powers them up...)
Interestingly, a Japanese friend of mine pointed out that the midgets' superhero costumes appear to have been directly inspired by the "supermonkee" costumes glimpsed in the opening credits of the old The Monkees tv show, complete with the giant "M" which presumably in this case stands for "Midgets" or "Mano Negra".
(https://i.imgur.com/SBfjXy7.jpg)
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Pijlie on 24 June 2021, 10:58:05 AM
Admittedly not metal and a bit expensive, but nevertheless some iconic Luchaderos by Mantic for their Hellboy boardgame

(https://www.manticgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/hellboy-in-mexico-768x768.jpg)
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 24 June 2021, 11:29:54 AM
Admittedly not metal and a bit expensive, but nevertheless some iconic Luchaderos by Mantic for their Hellboy boardgame

Yes, thanks for the post. A lot of sculptors seem to think luchadors are all ubiquitously overweight, don't they? I don't think I've ever seen even a photo of a real luchador who was an endomorph. They are really all mesomorphic.
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Cat on 24 June 2021, 06:23:03 PM
That film was Los Campeones Justcieros; the beauty queens are the respective goddaughters of each of the featured wrestlers. The mad scientist el Mano Negra plans to put them into suspended animation and program their brains as they sleep to create manchurian candidate killers he can use to topple governments, etc. etc.
....
Interestingly, a Japanese friend of mine pointed out that the midgets' superhero costumes appear to have been directly inspired by the "supermonkee" costumes glimpsed in the opening credits of the old The Monkees tv show, complete with the giant "M" which presumably in this case stands for "Midgets" or "Mano Negra".
(https://i.imgur.com/SBfjXy7.jpg)

It's been quite awhile since I've watched that one, or the others on hand.  I've got several Luchadoes Enmascarados DVDs with 2-3 films on each, plus a WWO Lucha Libre set covering 8 events and 25 luchas.  Definitely time to dust them off and give them another watch.

My guess was that the 'M' stood for Malvado which would fit for the red shirt wrestlers.  Midget/Dwarf would be Enano in Spanish.  Mano Negra is a good guess too.

The Monkees connection could just be coïncidence, since red shirts are such an established trope in wrestling.
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Pijlie on 24 June 2021, 09:51:27 PM
Yes, thanks for the post. A lot of sculptors seem to think luchadors are all ubiquitously overweight, don't they? I don't think I've ever seen even a photo of a real luchador who was an endomorph. They are really all mesomorphic.

In this case the sculptor closely followed Richard Corbens comic art, who did indeed draw them as chubby hard-drinking vampire killers.
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 25 June 2021, 05:39:28 AM
In this case the sculptor closely followed Richard Corbens comic art, who did indeed draw them as chubby hard-drinking vampire killers.

Thanks, I'm familiar with the Hellboy stuff, humor oriented figs, and all the resin ones out there but again folks, I'm looking for metal figs suitable for El Santo, Blue Demon, and Mil Mascaras.
It looks like OOP Golgo Island range had some metal figs referred to as "Thor Pasadenas", which are evidently based on Blue Demon and Santo's early costumes.
(https://i.imgur.com/grh5aG5.jpg)

It also looks like Badger Games have a couple of figs, but they are very cursory sculpts. https://shop.badgergames.com/category.sc?categoryId=134
I guess I was hoping to be pointed toward something more detailed than any of these known metal examples. One of the key things that define luchadors is the design of raised appliques stitched on around the eyes and mouth. All these metal figs are lacking in such details. Maybe I'll just have to sculpt some myself.
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 25 June 2021, 05:42:15 AM
No worries, as a child of the 70s myself I can understand the hefty pull of lead based nostalgia.  lol

I'm afraid I haven't seen any other luchadors out there, but does someone not make a sprue of separate heads in balaclavas or something that might be easy to make conversions with? Just thinking of the photo you posted of the mask and regular clothes combos.

Hmm, a sprue of luchador mask heads... That's a really good idea!  :)
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 25 June 2021, 06:44:00 AM
I ask my friends to show me plastic action figures of Green Lantern, Captain America, and Batman.
They give me bendy figures of fat parody stereotype American superheroes...  lol
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Cat on 25 June 2021, 03:52:23 PM
Ah, I was just shopping at Crooked Dice yesterday for haberdashed heads with berets — they do have balaclava heads.  A bit of greenstuff and/or carving on the front would be relatively quick work to change them to enmascarado heads.
https://crooked-dice.co.uk/product/balaclava-heads/

Years ago, I customised figures for an Ogre BloodBowl team, Los Tornados Enmascarados.  Most of the masks were done simply by painting the face-masked helmets in mask style, some with a bit of green stuff for the lower half.  El Violado got the pure mask look:
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Mr. White on 25 June 2021, 05:22:15 PM
what about using the plastic M.U.S.C.L.E. figs from Japan? Too super-hero like? there are hundreds of them

Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 25 June 2021, 06:05:56 PM
what about using the plastic M.U.S.C.L.E. figs from Japan? Too super-hero like? there are hundreds of them

Kinnikuman gashapon?!  That's a good one! You had me going there... for a second I thought you were serious! lol
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 25 June 2021, 06:10:15 PM
Ah, I was just shopping at Crooked Dice yesterday for haberdashed heads with berets — they do have balaclava heads.  A bit of greenstuff and/or carving on the front would be relatively quick work to change them to enmascarado heads.
https://crooked-dice.co.uk/product/balaclava-heads/

Years ago, I customised figures for an Ogre BloodBowl team, Los Tornados Enmascarados.  Most of the masks were down simply by painting the face-masked helmets in mask style, some with a bit of green stuff for the lower half.  El Violado got the pure mask look:

Hey I have some of those balaclava heads upstairs. CD heads tend to be on the small side imho, but I'll dig 'em out and see how they look. I've done a fair bit of sculpting. Another good idea!
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: SotF on 28 June 2021, 12:20:14 AM
what about using the plastic M.U.S.C.L.E. figs from Japan? Too super-hero like? there are hundreds of them

The material does not like paint at all
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: LeadAsbestos on 28 June 2021, 03:02:12 AM
Atomico is doing a luchadore set on KS at some point, but nothing yet.
Title: Re: Mexican Wrestler figs anywhere?
Post by: Tubehead on 28 June 2021, 04:43:57 AM
Atomico is doing a luchadore set on KS at some point, but nothing yet.

Metal?  :)