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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: wrgmr1 on 14 August 2021, 05:22:38 AM

Title: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
Post by: wrgmr1 on 14 August 2021, 05:22:38 AM

Most learned WoR Gentleman.

German mercenary crossbow and hand-gunners, did they a have livery of some kind or did they dress pretty much as they liked? How did anyone know which side they were on?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
Post by: bluewillow on 14 August 2021, 07:10:11 AM

Depends upon the company and location, I found some references to livery on the mercenaries I used for the battle of Saint-Aubin-du- Cormier in Brittany,  Captain Bhler of Jullac (thought to be the bastard son of Duke Heinrich VIII of Braunschweig-Wolfenbuttel. Party green and yellow.

Cheers
Matt

Title: Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
Post by: Atheling on 14 August 2021, 09:54:52 AM

I think Matt has answered that one quite handsomely :)

Title: Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
Post by: Charlie_ on 14 August 2021, 11:15:04 AM

Are you asking about European mercenaries fighting in England during the WOTR, or Germans fighting in Europe?

Title: Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
Post by: wrgmr1 on 14 August 2021, 06:56:43 PM

Germans fighting in England. Thanks!

Title: Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
Post by: wrgmr1 on 14 August 2021, 06:57:52 PM

Bluewillow:

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Depends upon the company and location, I found some references to livery on the mercenaries I used for the battle of Saint-Aubin-du- Cormier in Brittany,  Captain Bhler of Jullac (thought to be the bastard son of Duke Heinrich VIII of Braunschweig-Wolfenbuttel. Party green and yellow.

Did they serve in England?

Title: Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
Post by: Charlie_ on 14 August 2021, 08:54:22 PM

I imagine if European mercenaries were serving in England they wouldn't have any sort of their own livery.
They might wear the livery of their English employers, though perhaps not full coats, perhaps just a badge or sash?

Title: Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
Post by: wrgmr1 on 14 August 2021, 09:43:28 PM

Thanks Charlie.

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I imagine if European mercenaries were serving in England they wouldn't have any sort of their own livery.
They might wear the livery of their English employers, though perhaps not full coats, perhaps just a badge or sash?

Robert W. Jones who is a medieval expert said he could find any information regarding mainland (German) mercenaries wearing livery of the retinue they were attached to. So maybe what you suggest is correct?

Title: Re: WoR Mercenary German Crossbow and Handgunners?
Post by: Atheling on 14 August 2021, 10:20:40 PM

Quote from: Charlie_ on 14 August 2021, 08:54:22 PM

I imagine if European mercenaries were serving in England they wouldn't have any sort of their own livery.
They might wear the livery of their English employers, though perhaps not full coats, perhaps just a badge or sash?

Indeed. As a "badge" of ownership. A concept that i think is misunderstood in the modern world (all for the betterment of humanity of course!)