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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Hammers on September 21, 2009, 08:13:37 PM
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In an attempt to be innovatived I tried to paint a dapple grey by using the 'flicking method', you know, when you load a flat brush with thin paint and by flicking the brush tip with a finger to get the paint to splatter on the subject, in theis case a horse. Did not work. It justt looks splattered not dapple. Now I have to go back and base coat and shade it again. :-[
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Flicking?
You Swedes and your relentless innovation... ::)
Just paint the bloody spots on, Peder ;)
Mind you, someone told me this one looked like a rocking horse... Ho hum...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/577_24_06_09_12_05_50_2.jpg)
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:o
I was considering giving a try at a new method too… however, I planned on using small foam piece from a blister pack to do the "dappling"… flicking seem like an odd idea indeed ::)
Mind you, this may be ending in failure too... ;)
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Flicking?
You Swedes and your relentless innovation... ::)
Just paint the bloody spots on, Peder ;)
Mind you, someone told me this one looked like a rocking horse... Ho hum...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/577_24_06_09_12_05_50_2.jpg)
It has been rightfully claimed many times over, Richard, that you are are a very talented painted. But, if you allow me a little joke, even the sun has it's, ahaha, spots.
The picture of your otherwise stellar work stresses what I find being the hard part with dapples. The spots should blend at the edges like water colour paint on wet paper.
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Hammers, have you tried to do this with a sponge instead of a brush? this is a technique used to apply the white wash camo on tanks
or try to mix water in the paint so that it becomes more thin
note: minis painted by Captain Blood should not be used as an example, they only manage to make us look at them with a daft expression and thinking "bloody hell! I'll never manage to do something like that" :)
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I'm sure I've seen a dapple-painting tutorial somewhere, but can't think where ???
Bloody 48K memory >:(
I really should get an upgrade ::)
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Hammers, have you tried to do this with a sponge instead of a brush? this is a technique used to apply the white wash camo on tanks
or try to mix water in the paint so that it becomes more thin
note: minis painted by Captain Blood should not be used as an example, they only manage to make us look at them with a daft expression and thinking "bloody hell! I'll never manage to do something like that" :)
I'll try that. Thanks. I've tried a stubbed paint brush but it didn't quite do the trick.
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I use watercolour and poster paints and do them by hand. Its easy to blend the colours on top of an acrylic base.
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w198/svennnthedhnut/JollyBob181.jpg)(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w198/svennnthedhnut/JollyBob179.jpg)
Svennn
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You know, that's the first painted version I see of the White Knight from the first frothers sculpting competition. 8)
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Have you tried using two colours like this (Small picture bottom right)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/2/577_24_05_09_7_41_56_1.JPG)
I done a larger spot of a darker colour then a smaller spot of a lighter colour. Give you the faded look, from a distance.
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Not sure if this linky will work, but try the GW website for a hore article:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=&categoryId=§ion=&pIndex=0&aId=14700022&start=1
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Not a bad guide, that GW page.
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Take a look at this on the subject of spotty horses...
http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19826
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The picture of your otherwise stellar work stresses what I find being the hard part with dapples. The spots should blend at the edges like water colour paint on wet paper.
I have seen this done effectively by putting one dot of thinned-down paint on first, then going back and putting a smaller dot of the same color, but less thinned in the center. Of course I have yet to successfully pull it off myself.
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I like the piebald technique described in the Steve Dean forum. It is close to what I do.
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I’ve painted this horse as a part of my entry for round 5 of the last LPL.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll206/Calimero_34/Photo1722.jpg)
I’ve painted it using an old beat-up synthetic brush but was pretty satisfied of the result… That’s also the figure that make me think that I could save some time if I use a small foam piece to do the dappling instead of a simple brush. ::)
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Here's how my Hospitaller Constable's dark grey dapple turned out:
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/Cruzades/Constable.jpg)
The base paint is W&N Paynes Grey oil mixed with Humbrol 32 slate grey and some thinners to a rather medium grey. I let it bake for two days in my bulb oven. Then I applied it as per instructions with Paynes Grey oil, rubbed off and let bake again for a couple of days. At this point I gave up oils and started with the spotting I used a rather watered down mix of a little Paynes Grey acrylic mixed mixed wiith Vallejo white. I applied rather runny spots, not too small with more density on rump and flanks and less desity on legs, head and neck. I applied a second smaller spot of pure white in the center of the off white spots. The whole thing came off too spotty so I took some off white again and tied the spots togother with by applying it with a fine pored sponge.
I have a reference book on horses but I realize now that the colouring I've picked for this horse is rather unusual since I cannot find a similar picture on dapple greys on the internet. The transition between dark and white can be pretty stark in dapples but the head is usually light to. Oh, and I could have done a better job on the mane and tail even though, again, my new photo bulbs have taken some of the subtlety in the colour transitions out.
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I was lurking frothers, and saw the link to this blog, which has a very nice article about painting these kind of horses:
http://menix-miniatures.blogspot.com/2009/07/paint-polka-dot-hoss.html
and the result is very impressive! :)
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I dunno if the 'flicking' method is good for horseys, but if you want to do it proper (flicking I mean), use an old toothbrush to do it, using otherwise the same technique. A tootbrush makes luvverly spatters, should you ever require them. Now this is Finnish innovation, not Swedish! ;)
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I just came across this one on Frothers.
(http://www.ebobminiatures.com/products/grasing1.jpg)
*This* is what a dapple grey should look like, IMO. Sorry, don't know who to comlipment
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IIRC that was sculpted and painted by eBob. I agree with you entirely. Probably the best dapple paint job I have ever seen.
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IIRC that was sculpted and painted by eBob. I agree with you entirely. Probably the best dapple paint job I have ever seen.
So it was painted by eBob to? Well, good on him. He got that cloudy finish spot on.
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I use a VERY short old drybrush with the size of about #1 and stipple it repeatedly over the surface.
Works effectively, at least for me.
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I use a VERY short old drybrush with the size of about #1 and stipple it repeatedly over the surface.
Works effectively, at least for me.
Long time lurkers first post! Hi guys. :)
I stipple too. Here is a dark dapple I am working on at the moment:(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h16/SlartsWow/Horses-03a.jpg)
Lightish grey stipples with white stipple on top of that, all blended together with a wash.
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Long time lurkers first post! Hi guys. :)
Hi! Welcome to the LAF! :)
Great Horse!