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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: Tom Reed on September 23, 2009, 08:21:53 PM
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I just saw this on the Miniatures Page.
http://www.bluemoonmanufacturing.com/view_product.php?product=BMM215
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Kind'a sad, having seen Malamute's stuff. Zorro and the soldiers look pretty crummy. The civilians, however, are nice. Too bad they don't come by themselves.
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Apart from not being *by a fraction* as nice as those in Malamute's catalog, they do not do much to improve matter by keeping that resident miniature painter on staff. Very shoddy paint work.
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@ Hammers, I think that your 100% right about that… I’ve bought several figures fromm Blue Moon Manufacturing (thru Old Glory USA) and I’ve painted their Mommy set as part of a commission work and the figures are much better than one could imagine looking at the painted example they provide… ::)
I also think that Malamute at Boot Hill have nothing to fear from them… they might even make the period more popular… lol
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Normally Zorro figures fire me up but ??? these... don't. :-[
Wow, bummer. :'(
I will put these on the "maybe, someday" list.
I am not a great painter and these require a better paint job to excite me. LOL, me a paint critic??!
Gracias,
Glenn
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The mounted Zorro is in a class of his own :?
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This is the "Mission California" set that any members of the Old Glory Army will get for free with their first purchase for the new fiscal year of their membership.
I haven't been too impressed in the past with many of Blue Moon's figures but there are some that look useful. It would be hard for anyone to beat Malamute's Boot Hill figures, which are just beautiful.
Getting these out there may spark more interest in the period though.
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They're awful! No, that's not quite right, I meant rubbish!
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The mounted Zorro is in a class of his own :?
Yeah, the class where they have you playing with plasticine all day.
Those are just crap. No, be fair Bob. Like Mancha said, the civillians look quite nice under the crappy paintjob, but the rest of them are a big Null Points from the Cumberland Jury.
Malamute, you are completely safe mate.
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The mounted Zorro is in a class of his own :?
lol You're right. The Masked Pinhead Rides Again.
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All the many staff at Boothill Minis can sleep soundly, then ;)
The best thing for the mounted version would be to whip his head off and use him as a 19thC Californian Headless Horseman, although there may not be much call for one of those.
It's quite odd, as the chap at the bottom of the pic holding a sword has a distinctly Dixon-style pumpkin head :?
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They look odd and out of proportion,
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I like the vehicles from Blue Moon's Highways & Byways line, but most of their miniatures are a little too lumpy and funky for my taste.
A.Nik-
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Well, I must publicly retract some of my misgivings.
I joined the Old Glory Army, ordered an adobe house and got the Mission California figures. They are indeed the Blue Moon figures.
First, other then one wasp-waisted young woman, these are very useful for NPC and villager figures. And I'll use her, too, just not in the "front rank" as it were.
State of the art, No; acceptable, certainly.
Second, somebody, pardon the harsh words, needs a painter better than me. That should be easy, no? Apparently not.
Third, between the MAW/Pershing/etc. "Mexican" figures from OG and these figures (plus Monday Knight, Cowboy War, and other "makers of Mexicanos") I can have a decent population "on the board" for Gloire, Gutshot, Matchlocks on the Warpath, and Supersystem (in the 1800's) games. I do seriously need, well, want, more Apaches/indios. And time to paint - Winter is coming...
Gracias,
Glenn
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Interesting that these get slammed while the Boot Hill figures are frothed over. Both are cartoonish, in different ways: some of those Boot Hill figures don't even measure 4.5 heads tall.
I would like to see a range of well-sculpted figures for this genre. It's a pity that with two cartoonish ones out, there will be little incentive for anyone to do a proper one.
Allen
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Can someone actually name just one brand of wargames figures that aren’t anatomically wrong, a little "cartoonish" or have oversized weapons? ::)
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Can someone actually name just one brand of wargames figures that aren’t anatomically wrong, a little "cartoonish" or have oversized weapons? ::)
lol
Even the Perrys' figures are not perfect and you won't find too many better proportioned than them. Most figure ranges are indeed at best caricatures of "normal" human beings.
Possibly Hasslefree are the most anatomically accurate figures around - especially the females ;)
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Can someone actually name just one brand of wargames figures that aren’t anatomically wrong, a little "cartoonish" or have oversized weapons? ::)
I think the word we need is 'characterisation' rather than 'cartoonish'. Wargames figures are not 'Fine Art' sculptures, they are 'wargames figures' pure and simple and some are good and some are really not. Strangely, that is 'in the eye of the beholder' often. So, Boot Hill Miniaturers appeal to some, Blue Moon to others, and we are all entitled to our opinion, even if no one else understands it. ;)
David
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...and we are all entitled to our opinion, even if no one else understands it. ;)
lol
BTW I'm a huge fan of Dixon's figures even with their pumpkins heads ;D
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Can someone actually name just one brand of wargames figures that aren’t anatomically wrong, a little "cartoonish" or have oversized weapons? ::)
Yes.
http://www.albanminiatures.com/index.htm
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It seems strange that when I see a properly proportioned miniature that it just does not look right somehow.
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Can someone actually name just one brand of wargames figures that aren’t anatomically wrong, a little "cartoonish" or have oversized weapons? ::)
http://www.thunderboltmountain.com/ (http://www.thunderboltmountain.com/)
And pretty much anything else Tom Meier does these days (like his work for Dark Sword Miniatures)
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It seems strange that when I see a properly proportioned miniature that it just does not look right somehow.
Indeed. Maybe it's part nostalgia. Normally proportioned figures just seem bland and characterless now.
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Yes.
http://www.albanminiatures.com/index.htm
Those are almost there, approx 7 - 7 1/2 "heads" high and sensible proportions, but even they have Baker rifles which look a bit too big.
Thanks for the link though, Alan, as I was just about to request a good set of Sharpe and Harper figures for my newly acquired "Sharpe Practice" rules. These look great and hopefully will fit in well with my Perry and Foundry Napoleonics. The price is not too bad, either :D
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I think eBob's work generally looks more anatomically 'real' - without that all-pervasive squatness or the cartoony look we are all used to.
Also TQD's 20mm range. They actually look like small model human beings... Astonishing ;)
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A particular aesthetic has certainly been developed for the kind of miniatures our kind paint.
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Yea. Blue Moon's stuff usually looks a bit 'wonky' to me. I have bought a few packs/box sets in the past, and I usually disappointed in the quality. :'(
On that note... These look way thin, and both Zorro sculpts looks like he is a 'pencil neck'.
I got Malamutes and Artizan's Zorros. I am happy with those.
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Wow, who knew my initial post would generate so much stuff.
Anyway, i went to the Toy Soldier Show in Chicago over the weekend and Barzo had their newest playest there...Zorro! In 54mm soft plastic. It was very cool. IIRC, you got Zorro (of course) several presodential troopers, peasants, etc. and a Hacienda of some sort. They also had a "garrison" building with jail cells.
Very nice stuff.
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I have seen some BM stuff and they are quite good, I think the main problem is the terrible painting which is very off putting.
For example, I have got some of the Western figs and I must say they are much better in the flesh and even with my painting skills, they make those advertised on the website look very amaturish.
Cant BM see that?
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Apparently not. :?
Maybe family or friend?
Gracias,
Glenn