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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: Rich H on 09 December 2021, 11:24:15 AM

Title: 81mm mortar Mk2 Mod 0
Post by: Rich H on 09 December 2021, 11:24:15 AM: What madness is this... A direct or indirect fire 81mm mortar. With the option of a piggyback 50cal :o
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Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on 09 December 2021, 01:12:50 PM: And I wonder what that's going to fit in?????
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Post by: Poiter50 on 09 December 2021, 02:52:40 PM: As carried in a PBR?
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Post by: Dags on 09 December 2021, 02:55:20 PM: HSSC?
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Post by: tin shed gamer on 09 December 2021, 03:42:52 PM: So your going Junk Hunting?
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Post by: FramFramson on 09 December 2021, 06:20:46 PM: Quote from: Dags on 09 December 2021, 02:55:20 PM
HSSC?

Halifax Sport & Social Club?

Harmonized System of Survey and Certification?

Haryana Staff Selection Commission?

lol
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Post by: carlos marighela on 09 December 2021, 08:01:43 PM: Swiftly shall you be boating again? ;)
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Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 09 December 2021, 10:43:15 PM: Quote from: Dags on 09 December 2021, 02:55:20 PM
HSSC?
Higher Secondary School Certificate?
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Post by: carlos marighela on 09 December 2021, 10:51:59 PM: No. Highly Susceptible to Sexual Congress.
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Post by: Rich H on 11 December 2021, 09:04:34 AM: Done.

Also found a great set of pics on SVSM; fortunately my guesses for the bits I couldn't see were pretty good!
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Post by: carlos marighela on 11 December 2021, 09:18:22 AM: Ooh! Those look very nice!
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Post by: Rich H on 11 December 2021, 10:04:03 AM: Thanks :)
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Post by: vodkafan on 11 December 2021, 11:30:02 AM: Quote from: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on 09 December 2021, 01:12:50 PM
And I wonder what that's going to fit in?????

I want one for a Universal carrier now!
Title: Re: 81mm mortar Mk2 Mod 0
Post by: Rich H on 11 December 2021, 12:07:03 PM: Quote from: vodkafan on 11 December 2021, 11:30:02 AM
I want one for a Universal carrier now!

lol
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Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 11 December 2021, 04:56:48 PM: Cool looking piece of kit, but how do they work (I have a vague memory of a WW2 weapon that used mortar rounds with a rocket strapped to the nose that forced the round on to the firing pin)?
Title: Re: 81mm mortar Mk2 Mod 0
Post by: Rich H on 11 December 2021, 05:04:10 PM: It's just an muzzle loaded 81mm mortar with a flexible mounting and a trigger really. It could fire standard mortar bombs or flechette rounds.

The Mod1 and Mod2 have a 50cal strapped to the top
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Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 11 December 2021, 05:12:43 PM: Thanks.
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Post by: carlos marighela on 11 December 2021, 08:01:33 PM: By the by if that seems weird then check out the M98 Howtar used by the Marines in Vietnam. As the name suggests, it’s a 107mm mortar fitted on to the carriage of a WW2 era 75mm pack howitzer.

I bought the Warlord pack howitzer for just such a conversion. Will get around to it if and when Empress do some early war marines with M14.
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Post by: Rich H on 11 December 2021, 09:35:55 PM: I guess it's more portable than a base plated mortar? Or was it the low angle they wanted?
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Post by: carlos marighela on 12 December 2021, 02:47:37 AM: It’s hard to know what they wanted from it. It weighed more than either the gun or the standard 4.2” mortar and its range was less than the mortar in its usual configuration by almost a third.
Title: Re: 81mm mortar Mk2 Mod 0
Post by: Rich H on 12 December 2021, 07:53:53 AM: Maybe it's an example of just because
Or perhaps a damaged gun and mortar? Or ammo shortage and a damaged mortar?

Any sort of lash-up would give me the fear... I wonder how it was fired at low angle?
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Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 12 December 2021, 10:33:28 PM: Available ammunition and towable?
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Post by: carlos marighela on 13 December 2021, 07:51:32 AM: They actually designed it and they put it into serial production. Marines just being marines and wanting to be different I suppose. There was an even weirder design for a towed rocket launcher that never made it into production called the XM-70. Best way to describe it is as a revolver rocket launcher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM70E2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bJ-XNYux_M
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Post by: Rich H on 13 December 2021, 08:21:06 AM: We've been here before... Revolver rocket launchers aren't a great plan...
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=129235.0