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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: magyar on 08 January 2022, 08:32:00 PM
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Colleagues,
This site has long been a source of inspiration for me, and it seems now it's time to share some recent work.
Below are some conversions for my Italian Condotta, with excellent Perry ACW offerings as the basis for the riders. Horses are converted, too.
Sorry, initially posted in the Workbench board - reposting here. Hope you like it!
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Bice work! I'm looking forward to seeing the finished figures,
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Nice conversions. :-*
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Very nice work and exactly what I've been looking for. Ive been looking for horses I can convert for my AWI Loyalists and these are just the ticket.
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Those are cool.
I’m assuming ACW was a mis-type, and these are based on the WoTR figures?
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Thanks for the comments!
Fred, nope, ACW they are!
Sabres and gear removed, some filing to define stirrups/spurs, some GS and odd bits from Perry's Light Cavalry...
In fact, the ACW set was obtained with horses conversions in mind. However, later I thought it would be a waste not to recycle the riders :)
Here's another picture, and disregard the gap at the horse neck - it's been filled already!
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OMG! I take it back, not "nice work" I missed the ACW part of the conversions,,,, Absolutely FABTASTIC! Amazing conversion work!
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MaleGriffin,
Thank you! There's more:
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Some very tasty Greenstuff work :-*
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Well, the problem with conversions is that once you start, there's no stopping it... Somehow they keep coming and coming...
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Great stuff. Even more impressive considering the ACW base!!
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brilliant :-*
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Thank you for all the nice comments!
Next comes the standard bearer. I have the excellent Pete's flags sheet for Anghiari, and am musing over Radia Magna Visconti or Niccolo Piccinino.
The next big thing would be to paint the lot. I want to go for a pretty generic scheme, with no "uniform"-like look. But, since the flags carry a lot of red, it might become the predominant color. What do you think?
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I too hadn't picked up that they were converted from ACW cavalry. :o :o :o Who would have thought it but they are great. :-* :-* :-* :-*
As to painting, I like a colour theme running through the unit to tie them in but agree that they don't want to be too uniform. Looking forward to see how they turn out.
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I too hadn't picked up that they were converted from ACW cavalry. :o :o :o Who would have thought it but they are great. :-* :-* :-* :-*
Me neither! Wow again! :o
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OK, the first batch is ready ... sort of :). The rest are awaiting a coat of paint.
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Nice
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Now, here’s a commanding officer for my condotta. An unconverted exception, Perry's mounted MAA on a GS-augmented ACW horse.
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Great to see them coming together!
The officer is particularly good I think - a perfect combination of parts.
As I said on your original thread on the Workbench board, I'm having a go at using the plastic ACW horses myself, inspired by what you're doing here.
I bought two sprues of them from ebay. The horses are unsurprisingly a good size match with the plastic WOTR ones. Four right sides, four left sides, and the heads are not separate. Trying all the different combinations, I've decided there are two EXCELLENT poses I have to use, which will add some much-needed variety to my large cavalry units, or be useful for command stands. All the other pose combinations aren't so essential - either they aren't really that different to ones you can get from the WOTR horses, or they look a little bit odd!
The heads can also be easily sliced off and used on WOTR horses. I tried one the other way, but it doesn't quite look right to my eyes.
All the saddle furnishing and baggage particular to the 19th century can be sliced off with a knife, filed down, and the whole saddle area slathered in poly cement to smooth it out - I will now need to rebuild the saddles with greenstuff, though if I use metal Perry riders on them they have the rear part covered already.
I look forward to getting mine painted and mixed into my ranks of cavalry!
Thanks for the idea!
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Hi Charlie,
Yeah, the Condotta project is gradually taking its final shape. To my dismay, have to slow down a bit with the basing as I ran out of flock and fancy tufts :-[
Indeed, the ACW horse sprues are quite useful, and with imaginative surgery some interesting outcomes can be obtained. I mostly focused on stading/walking/trotting poses.
Oh, and once again thanks for the inspiration with conversions!
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Nicely done horse conversions. Its easy to get horses looking wrong, but I think you have nailed it. :)
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Great kitbashing and converting! :)
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Great work. Very inspirational. I was planning on using Perrys for my Venetian Elmeti knights, but sadly Perrys where way to large to be mixed with the Assault Group Elmeti I had bought.
Your conversions have inspired me to look at them again. Maybe for command stands.
Cheers
Erik
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You have nailed conversions on the the horses. Very realistic and certainly not an easy task. 8)
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Thanks for nice feedback re. horses!
It finally happened :)
With the flock/tufts crisis resolved, I managed to finalize the first unit. More on the workbench nearing completion.
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Very nice work!!
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That is inspiring work. I don't really know much about the period. I am reading Christian Cameron's Chivalry series (set in the 1350s-60s). Are your Italian's for that period?
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Thanks for your comments!
Cannot claim to be an expert, but I aimed at a somewhat generic look hoping to stretch it as late as mid-XV century with different flags added?
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Thanks for your comments!
Cannot claim to be an expert, but I aimed at a somewhat generic look hoping to stretch it as late as mid-XV century with different flags added?
The Perry Wars of the Roses/Medieval Mercenaries are all fine from about 1450 to 1500.
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Atheling, thanks for the clarification. The condotta then seems OK for Italian Wars, - at least their early stage.
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They seem just right for the later 15th century, and the very first Italian War (Charles VIII's invasion in 1495 and the battle of Fornovo). They could potentially just about edge into the start of the 16th century, but things changed very quickly and the further into the 1500s you go the more out-of-date they will look.
Of course there were no end of wars and conflicts throughout Italy from 1450-1500 before the French invasion, and they'll be perfectly suited for this.
I am reading Christian Cameron's Chivalry series (set in the 1350s-60s). Are your Italian's for that period?
That period is almost 100 years earlier - but interestingly it seems Claymore Castings are releasing some Italians for the late 14th century that should work well! So far they have just released three packs of Italian spearmen.
https://claymorecastings.co.uk/new.claymorecastings.co.uk/
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Well, time for some fire support :) More conversions - this time mounted crossbowmen.
The first one is a recycled HYW with Perry mercenaries crossbow, gear and an Old Glory metal head. The second one comes from the ACW set with Ansar head (the whole concept shamelessly borrowed from Stuart Mulligan's amazing project), some GS and indispensible Perry crossbow. They ride Perry horse conversions.
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Very nice conversions. :-*
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Wow! These are really amazing and I love how you made them out of something completely different and yet, they still feel so right.
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Thanks for the feedback! And now - with some paint on. I wanted to keep'em pretty generic, so than I could switch flags if need be.
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Very nice brushwork and some fab conversions 8)
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Time to field some infantry!
Italy means guys with swords and shiled, right? Not sure about their battle value, but they do look cool!
A pretty straightforward conversion of a Perry Foot Knight and somewhat more sophisticated ones, all based on Perry plastics, - WOTR and Ansar. Sword arms were provided by ACW, MAA and Ansar sets, shields are filed to shape from the Mercenaries sprue. And GS, of course :)
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Excellent creative kitbashing :-*
Well done 8)
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Ooh really nice, great poses. I particularly like the running guy!
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Captain Blood, Charlie_, thanks a lot!
Here's some more: the trumpeter is a reworked HYW archer, while the commander is a WOTR lower torso and legs, HYW torso and arms from ACW and Ansar.
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I decided to add some more punch to my army. Nothing special, Perry MAA. And a standard bearer- upper torso from Old Glory, legs - HYW Perry, and a brass rod for the flagstaff.
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Very nice conversions, great poses!
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I’ve missed loads of updates!
I’m still amazed that you are using ACW figures as the base for several of these. Great work on the conversions - do you have an idea of the pose you want to get - or is it more seeing how the various arms and legs go together?
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Thanks!
fred, good question… In fact, ACW conversions were quite straightforward, it was mostly the matter of chopping and filing off excessive plastic and combining the resulting dollies with heads/arms swaps and gear as well as adding some GS here and there.
But both ways work. I mean, the key consideration for me is to try to achieve as much variety as possible and avoid “clones”. I try to first imagine a pose, then search through my parts box. Sometimes original parts from different sets just click into place. In some other instances the pose is somewhat tricky and cannot be obtained without major surgery or GS. In such cases I may use wire armature for legs and arms and GS or some other two-part putty.
Examples of the two approaches used on my other projects are below.
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Brilliant! Very realistic poses!
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fabulous conversion there!
cheers
matt
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Ah, well... It's been a while.
Finally I got to painting the lot, and started the process yesterday. No uniformity in livery, a pretty motley crew.
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Meanwhile, I decided to add some heavy metal and give my troops more punch!
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Nicely done! How are these going to be based?
Really nice poses for the artillery crew, good conversions. Is the gun from Old Glory by any chance?
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Charlie_,
Thank you! The plan is to base the sword-and-shield crowd in units of six on 55X45 mm MDF.
As to the cannon - it is indeed an Old Glory piece!
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And they are all looking great. Looks like I missed a few updates in over the past few months. Ether way they are all good.
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I somehow got distracted by high-tech (for the 15th c., that is ;) ) warfare equipment, and before I knew it - voila, the first artillery piece is kind of ready. I changed the crew mix in the process, replacing the guy with ramrod (or cleaning rod?). Perhaps I will add some cannon balls so that the base does not look too empty .
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Nicely done!
For 'clutter' on artillery bases, Front Rank has some useful 15th century artillery boxes and other bits and pieces.
https://www.frontrank.com/product-category/medieval/medieval-equipment/
(https://www.frontrank.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/450.jpg)
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Hi again,
Yes, I realise I owe my sword-brandishing infantry a lot, and one day I will pay my dues, - I do solemly promise!
But I decided that I needed some reinforcements as represented by a unit of somewhat heavier cavalry. And - here it is! Again, Perry plastics as the basis with minor surgery.
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Nice looking cavalry.
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Well, folks, the foot crowd is done!
It took some time, but I am happy with the outcome of this labor of love despite somewhat sloppy painting lol
All Perry plastics, different sets, lots of conversions.
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That is a great collection of swashbucklers.
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Great work! Brilliant conversion work and I really like your color choices.
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Very nice work Magyar 8)
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Hi folks,
I figured it would be appropriate to field some heavy (and I mean heavy :D) infantry. One good thing about the boys in shining armor is that they are rather easy to paint - at least, in my case: just slap some metal paint on, and you're good!
Oh, and I am still undecided regarding the flag, hence a simple brass rod.
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Very nicely posed and painted 8)
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Towering in gallant fame,
Scotland my mountain hame,
High may your proud standards, gloriously wave...
Hi folks,
Back to action with reinforcements from Scotland the Brave :) Perry conversions, mostly. Oddly, the project started with an attempt at condotta, but as it continued more contingents appear to have joined the crowd..
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Really nice work. Great colours and unit composition..
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Hi folks,
Some more conversions to join the crowd. This time I decided to recycle HYW English Knights to go with MAA on foot (attempting some sort of half-sword technique). As a result, thanks to GS I got some heavies :-)
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And one more:
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Great work on the Scots and on the latest conversions. Well done :-*
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Nice work - the poses are very natural looking. I look forward to seeing them based up in a unit like your Scots!
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Looking good. :D
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nice work- it will be great to see them get a lick of paint :)
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Thank you all for your comments!
Hopefully, it will not take long before these lads receive their coat of paint.
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Hi everyone,
This time its mounted archers, with more of them to follow. Perhaps they will make up some kind of a scout outfit, or will be joining a stradioti unit in Venetian service I am contemplating. Again, ACW riders served as the basis for the conversion (this time I even recycled sabres :-)), with WOTR bits, bowcases and GS added.
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Ok those guys look great. :D
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Ah, well... More mounted archers to reinforce my upcoming stradioti unit. As always, the ACW set as the basis, but this time I also added some HYW riders for a change. Lots of GS, of course. I figured these guys would use composite bows, and therefore bending the original bows was fun :-)
What do you think?
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Great looking conversion on those ACW gone stradioti.