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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Westfalia Chris on 30 September 2009, 08:25:51 PM
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Hiya!
Finally, life in Hull settles down a bit, and I actually managed to paint some stuff over the last few days.
Waaay back in, I think it was 2004, at Essen Spiel games fair, I came across a bin with discounted comic books, where I bought five ABC Warriors books, German language edition. Well, at least it was German, technically, because it was the most atrocious comic-book translation I´ve ever read before then and thereafter. It didn´t distract from the art, which was rather nice (Khaos Chronicles and Hellbringer story arcs), and I wanted to do something like that in miniature. Back then, I was only aware of the Not-Hammerstein by Excalibur miniatures (of which I´ll probably buy a couple to do some Volgan War scenarios later on, but that´s in the future).
Some years thereafter, I noticed the Wargames Foundry ABC Warriors figures in their 2000AD range. Those I really liked, especially the big Hammerstein, but always deemed them too expensive to order to Germany.
Visiting Wargames Foundry last Friday, I took the plunge and bought a set, excluding the "small" Hammerstein, which I consider a rather mediocre pose with some proportion issues (although he seems to be more in scale with the other figs). Painted those up for a start.
Before anyone asks, yes, I plan to do Mongrol next, and Happy Shrapnel to get the original lineup, because there´s nothing in the world that beats a setting with war robots riding cloned tyrannosaurs. NOTHING.
Furthermore, I´ll add some other 2000AD figs in this thread (therefore, "and friends"), notably a bunch of old Citadel figures from the Judge Dredd universe which I got for a pittance some years back in a swap. Never got around to painting them until now. Also got a bunch of Judges lying around in Germany, so those will have to wait after christmas.
Now for the bots!
Sergeant Hammerstein:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/140_30_09_09_9_13_23_2.jpg)
Joe Pineapples:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/140_30_09_09_9_13_23_3.jpg)
Blackblood:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/140_30_09_09_9_13_23_0.jpg)
Deadlock:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/140_30_09_09_9_13_23_1.jpg)
Mek-Quake:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/140_30_09_09_9_13_23_4.jpg)
Morrigun:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/140_30_09_09_9_14_21_0.jpg)
And, finally, Ro-Jaws:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/140_30_09_09_9_14_21_1.jpg)
That´s it for today! More as I find the time; comments and constructive criticism welcome and to be answered in due time!
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Spread the Word! The ABC Warriors are back! 8) 8) 8)
Grand job - especially Ro-Jaws, but then he always was my favourite.
Just curious - is there a kill-dozer version of Mek-Quake anywhere? I'm thinking of doing a conversion.
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Nice! I used to love the ABC Warriors, so it's great to see them in miniature! Are you thinking of some sort of gaming for them, or is this purely a collecting and painting journey?
Joe looks great, but I think my favourite is Ro-Jaws - excellent green!
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Null and void. 8)
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Brilliant. Love the Blackblood miniature. :-*
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Just curious - is there a kill-dozer version of Mek-Quake anywhere? I'm thinking of doing a conversion.
Unfortunately, I´ve never seen one, but I wanted to do that version from Day One, using an old GW rhino as a base. Fortunately, compared to, say, The Mess or Happy Shrapnel, Mek-Quake is made up of rather simple shapes, so doing a fullscratch build wouldn´t be that problematic, and I guess I´ll do one sometime next summer.
Are you thinking of some sort of gaming for them, or is this purely a collecting and painting journey?
I almost never buy figures just for the showcase (mainly because my painting is not good enough for that), so they are earmarked for gaming, indeed. Since, as the title implies, it´s going to be "The Meknificent Seven vs. all comers", I´m currently writing up a version of the T&T rules (including custom cards) to use them with. I´ve already got some dozen post-apocalyptic and Street Violence figures painted up, and the Robots were based to go with those.
Next up, I´ll paint some Klegg, Perps and Monkey Mobsters from the Dredd universe. When I´m settled into my lectures and tutorial work, I´ll start work on Mongrol and Happy. Then, provided I find some fitting figures (Fiasco or sometime around that), it´ll probably be some not-Volgans (got Copplestone Neosovs or Mongrel Modern Russians earmarked for those), or Martian colonists/ clone soldiers; probably the latter, if I can find some nice figures (suggestions welcome, as I´m currently considering Copplestone Troopers with some facial mods for that).
I probably won´t do the Gothic Empire/Nemesis the Warlock story arcs, frankly because I´m still freaked out as sh*t by the respective Clint Langley artwork after all these years. o_o lol
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Wow! Lovely work Chris.
Is the background dropped in afterwards in a picture editing package, or are you actually shooting the miniatures against a graduated blue background?
(PS. Finding Hull a bit boring then? ;))
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Gaming pieces - even better! Looking forward to seeing the project develop.
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Yeah!!! This rules!!! can't wait to see more!!! :-* :-* :-*
BIG JOBS!!!
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Wow! Lovely work Chris.
Is the background dropped in afterwards in a picture editing package, or are you actually shooting the miniatures against a graduated blue background?
I took the photos against a plain white sheet of paper, with a desk lamp shining through another piece of paper to muffle the cast shadows. Then cut out the figures in Photoshop (ancient version, that) and placed them over the gradient layer.
(PS. Finding Hull a bit boring then? ;))
Not necessarily so. Those young whippersnappers I´m at university with have been going out every frickin´ night for the last week(s), so apparently, there´s enough stuff to do, but I´m getting too old to do so - but then again, that may be my usual pre-birthday depression sneaking in! I plan to visit Fort Paull this weekend, and will be well busy until tomorrow afternoon with all the Uni registration stuff etc. More in the appropriate thread later on.
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Brilliant, now if someone could do a nice Nemesis and crew........
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VERY NICE STUFF
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Unfortunately, I´ve never seen one, but I wanted to do that version from Day One, using an old GW rhino as a base. Fortunately, compared to, say, The Mess or Happy Shrapnel, Mek-Quake is made up of rather simple shapes, so doing a fullscratch build wouldn´t be that problematic, and I guess I´ll do one sometime next summer.
That's why I asked - my decision was only slightly different as I would probably use a Chimera, open topped. My main problem is the neck...
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That's why I asked - my decision was only slightly different as I would probably use a Chimera, open topped. My main problem is the neck...
Ah, the Chimera is much better. Don´t know why I was out for the Rhino. Probably had one lying around at the time.
I think you could actually do the neck rather easily, if a bit time-consuming. First, cut a strip of thicker plasticard to the rectangular length and width required. Then, using heat (sparingly and cautiously, I must add!) plus some dowel, shape this into the snake-ish contour. Next, add smaller strips of plasticard (maybe 3mm wide) on the flat surfaces to add the linked structure. Sand the sides flush. Finally, cut grooves into the sides to complete the link effect. I´ve used it for some ammo belts and similar stuff, and it worked out rather nicely. I could do a graphic illustration tonight, if you like.
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Don't know much about that ABC-stuff or 2000AD-universe, Chris, but that's a nice bunch of minis you finished over there in foreign lands ...
;)
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Ah, the Chimera is much better. Don´t know why I was out for the Rhino. Probably had one lying around at the time.
I think you could actually do the neck rather easily, if a bit time-consuming. First, cut a strip of thicker plasticard to the rectangular length and width required. Then, using heat (sparingly and cautiously, I must add!) plus some dowel, shape this into the snake-ish contour. Next, add smaller strips of plasticard (maybe 3mm wide) on the flat surfaces to add the linked structure. Sand the sides flush. Finally, cut grooves into the sides to complete the link effect. I´ve used it for some ammo belts and similar stuff, and it worked out rather nicely. I could do a graphic illustration tonight, if you like.
Sounds good! I think I got the idea, so don't worry about the illustration - although it sounds a useful tip and might be pinned as a stand-alone great idea :) :)
Thanks
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Sweet stuff!
Takes me right back - the ABC Warriors on Mars coincided pretty much exactly with when I started reading 2000AD. A halcyon period, just when the Judge Child saga was about to kick off, and Rogue Trooper was still a glimmer in Dave Gibbon's eyes. Anyway, love the Warriors, loved them when they came back in Nemesis and loved and adored them when they were drawn by Simon Bisley.
More please - Mongrel go smush!
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Sweet stuff!
Takes me right back - the ABC Warriors on Mars coincided pretty much exactly with when I started reading 2000AD. A halcyon period, just when the Judge Child saga was about to kick off, and Rogue Trooper was still a glimmer in Dave Gibbon's eyes. Anyway, love the Warriors, loved them when they came back in Nemesis and loved and adored them when they were drawn by Simon Bisley.
More please - Mongrel go smush!
I´ve actually almost finished the Mongrol figure, but am not at all content with it. I should have gone with my original impulse to use an AT-43 "Karman" for a base and only do minor modifications, but couldn´t get a single one, thus settled for a full sculpt from Milliput and MagicSculpt which turned out... well, a certain likeness, but as said, I´m not at all happy with it.
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Those figures look great, particularly Blackblood. I have been putting off "increasing the peace" with my set for ages, mostly because of the lack of a Mongrol. I love the ABCs but, like my Serenity/Firefly crew project, I want to have all of the figures to hand before I start so that the project can be wrapped up in a couple of weeks in front of the DVDs or reading the comics etc.
Its a real pity that Foundry didnt make Mongrol. As the last signature member of the group from their best era (IMO), Khronicles of Khaos and Hellbringer it is irritating to only have figures for the Mek-nificent Six (and while I love Ro-Jaws, he isnt Timmy from the Famous Five: he doesnt count :) )
Visiting Wargames Foundry last Friday, I took the plunge and bought a set, excluding the "small" Hammerstein, which I consider a rather mediocre pose with some proportion issues (although he seems to be more in scale with the other figs). Painted those up for a start.
The larger Hammerstein is definitely a much better figure than the small one but as you say, the smaller one fits in with the rest of the team a lot better. I was disgusted to see how big the Ro-Jaws figure was when it arrived in the post last year: he is as big as Morrigun or Blackblood when he should be roughy 2/3 that size. Very disappointing for such a generally liked character. I am not that fussy when it comes to scale but I cant justify Ro-Jaws at that size.
I´ve actually almost finished the Mongrol figure, but am not at all content with it. I should have gone with my original impulse to use an AT-43 "Karman" for a base and only do minor modifications, but couldn´t get a single one, thus settled for a full sculpt from Milliput and MagicSculpt which turned out... well, a certain likeness, but as said, I´m not at all happy with it.
I am very, very interested in seeing whatever you came up with for Mongrol. I fully intend to rip off anything about it that I can manage :) The idea of using a Karman as a base is potentially a good one, although my sculpting abilities are limited to say the least.
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Well then, here´s the painted and based Mongrol sculpt. After painting, I´ve upgraded my verdict from "abominable" to "rather poor showing, old chap". I still intend to do a better one (based on an AT-43 Karman), but for the time being... ah, well, whatever.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC_MONGROL.jpg)
Made from Milliput and Magic Sculp, based on a GW 60mm round base.
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Awwww, coome on, I like him :-* 8) :-* 8)
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nice
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He is very good.I got a lot of Karman stuff from the US.The postage was not that bad and they have some good deals on the miniatures.
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yep just kicked me up the arse and bought the Karman I had been eyeing up for Mongrol... the head will be the big challenge I think...
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Uncle Mike Love Mongrel!!! :-* You not change him! >:(
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Uncle Mike Love Mongrel!!! :-* You not change him! >:(
Don´t worry, I won´t change that one. But I may do a second one in the hope of getting a better result (and already had a couple of ideas popping into my mind for more efficient modelling work techniques which I really could have used for this instance! >:().
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I quite like that Mongrol figure. It is immediately recognisable as the character which is a big plus.
I have been taking a look at Karman figure pictures online (I havent ever had a good look at the figures first hand). While I can definitely see Karmans making a solid chassis for a Mongrol conversion I am very interested to see what you intend to do to it that will make it that significantly better than the figure above.
If you feel inclined I would love to see work in progress shots of the project whenever you get around to it (just so that I can piggy back your work to get my own Mongrol, naturally ;) )
Thanks for putting your ABC photos up.
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You're doing yourself a disservice - that's a fine Mongrel conversion. Of course, we're always our own worse critics, but by the time you've done another three or four you might have one you're happy with!
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I have been taking a look at Karman figure pictures online (I havent ever had a good look at the figures first hand). While I can definitely see Karmans making a solid chassis for a Mongrol conversion I am very interested to see what you intend to do to it that will make it that significantly better than the figure above.
Basically, it would run down to using only dedicated sculpting putty, aiming for much cleaner lines and smoother surfaces. I´m planning to bulk up the lower arms, hands and the shoulder/torso area, and use, if I can find it around these parts, wire for cabling; the head must be sculpted from scratch, obviously. Generally, much sharper detail, less actual sculpting, a lot done with painting.
My main point of contention is that the current model is too soft in its features and unclean/rough surfaces to actually look good next to the Foundry figures.
If you feel inclined I would love to see work in progress shots of the project whenever you get around to it (just so that I can piggy back your work to get my own Mongrol, naturally ;) )
I´ll try to remember to take some this time. Usually, I get all caught up in the actual work and forget photographs.
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Well then, folks, as noted in the Bazaar Thread, I actually found a box of Karman figures suitable for the conversion and set out with work. I´ll try to take pictures especially of the crucial phases and finished substeps.
I used the "K-Warriors" model with the "yelling" head. Said head and the cannon (or whatever) were removed, the cannon to be retained for future conversions, as they are rather nicely done.
Here´s a pic of the parts I´ll require for the conversion. Most if not all of the other modifications will be done using MagicSculp 2-part epoxy sculpting putty.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/MONGROL_Mk2_WIP001.jpg)
Modifications taken at this step:
- - The limbs were separated from the torso and hip parts
- - The legs were then repositioned to allow for a more upright pose, the whole assembly being affixed to a GW 40mm plastic base like the ones I used for the other models
- - The arms were cut apart in their lower halves, with a length of paperclip wire added to act as a spacer of ca 7-8mm (1/3in)
- - Some parts were removed from the torso, notably the "Hump" which usually holds the cannon, as well as a bit of the frontal collar part
The following steps will be undertaken next:
- - The empty areas on the arms need to be filled up, after which I´ll begin the actual "bulking up" of the arms
- - The upper torso will be built up to more closely resemble Mongrol´s body
- - Similarly, the top of the hip section will receive some putty to close the gaps between the legs and the upper torso
That´s it so far. I´ll take a new pic once the above steps have been concluded. Once the model reaches the final assembly stages, I´ll take some pics with the remaining second model to show the difference.
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Next step:
Filling up the gaps and basic bulking.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/MONGROL_Mk2_WIP002.jpg)
Step 3: Re-modelled arms (unfinished) from the outside.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/MONGROL_Mk2_WIP003a.jpg)
The inner side (not visible) is smooth and basically finished, but I may add some detail later on (screwheads, rivets or something, not too much, just do liven it up a bit).
This is the bulked-up torso:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/MONGROL_Mk2_WIP003b.jpg)
I´ll make the "step" towards the rear less prominent later on.
The basic head shape is also done. More pics to follow this afternoon/evening (UK time).
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Most work is done! I´ll add shoulders and details after the glue has set. The middle "tooth" of the lower jaw will have to be reduced a bit, though.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/MONGROL_Mk2_WIP004a.jpg)
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He looks great so far, although IMO he is standing a little more upright than his usual gorilla-like pose.
The head is great. The head will make or break the project I think. It is definitely where I think that I may have some trouble whenever I get around to my Mongrol project.
I am looking forward to seeing further progress, plus a shot of Mongrol hanging out with the rest of the ABCs.
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He looks great so far, although IMO he is standing a little more upright than his usual gorilla-like pose.
The head is great. The head will make or break the project I think. It is definitely where I think that I may have some trouble whenever I get around to my Mongrol project.
I am looking forward to seeing further progress, plus a shot of Mongrol hanging out with the rest of the ABCs.
I finished off the sculpting part and am currently painting it. You´re right with the pose, apparently I underestimated the effect of the hips repositioning. I hope I can counteract the visual effect by getting the paint scheme done.
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how big are you doing you Mongrol?
he was about as tall as a man, but that was when Hammerstein was only a smidge taller... the foundry big Hammerstein of course is massive... so kinda torn on what to do with mine...
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how big are you doing you Mongrol?
he was about as tall as a man, but that was when Hammerstein was only a smidge taller... the foundry big Hammerstein of course is massive... so kinda torn on what to do with mine...
The "clunky" Mongrol is rather large, a bit smaller than the "Big Hammy" and Mek-Quake figures from foundry, but of course more massive. Volumewise, it´s reminiscent of the big, "bestial" Mongrol from "Khronicles of Khaos" or "Hellbringer".
The "Mk2" Mongrol is more along the original-sized ones (as in "The Meknificent Seven", and, to a lesser extent, "The Black Hole" and the "Return to Mars" setting.
Now I´m a bit miffed that I did not buy the "small Hammerstein" too, but I still don´t like the sculpt, so it´s 50/50 - it IS darn obvious, though, that the "Big Hammerstein" is indeed much too big.
I´ll wait until the painting of the "small" Mongrol is complete for a final verdict. I´m happy with how he turned out so far, but the big one´s pose is better, and I like it more and more every time I look at it. Maybe I´ll add some post-painting sculpting parts to "sharpen him up" a bit, especially along the arms, which simply turned out too soft (was too impatient with them, I´ll admit).
Had I had my usual scratchbuilding stuff at hand, I´m sure I could have done a much better one, using plastic spheres for the body and plasticard-covered balsa wood for the arms, for a much, much cleaner model. I´ll probably take some supplies over when I visit my parents for christmas and then do a third model by that method.
I am really, really miffed with Foundry that they fell short of doing a Mongrol. I could live without the other various characters, but Mongrol is a must-have.
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I am really, really miffed with Foundry that they fell short of doing a Mongrol. I could live without the other various characters, but Mongrol is a must-have.
tell me about it, the WIP green was shown on Frothers a while back... lovely...
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right... made a start on the arms... this is gonna be slow and steady I think, even with a base figure cut up, it's virtually sculpting from scratch as far as I'm concerned (just avoided the tricky bit of the hands lol)... legs are a head scratcher...
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Wow this thread has taken me back abit. Lovely jobs on them all. Hmm Deadlock on a bike doing the tower jump in The Red Death
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Alright, now this project is branching into the 2000AD crossover/potpourri I had intended it to be.
I received a batch of Copplestone Castings Neo-Soviets I´ll paint up as Volgans. "Unfortunately" (least appropriate use ever!), they come with nicely-sculpted stars on their helmet.
Now, I´m thinking whether I should leave these stars on and go for the "modern, undiplomatic" Volgan style which is openly, nay, blatantly "Neo-Soviet" or shave and sand them off and paint the Yellow Skull emblem on them.
I´m personally leaning towards the latter, since it would make them more instantly recognisable and more "unique" in wargaming terms. The amount of work is negligible, but I´m reluctant to remove those stars since they are so nicely done.
Recommendations?
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Recommendations?
Are the stars large enough to accomodate a painted on yellow skull emblem in the middle?
I dont remember what the Volgan skull symbol looks like, but if it is a pretty simple image then maybe that might work out as the best of both worlds.
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Are the stars large enough to accomodate a painted on yellow skull emblem in the middle?
I dont remember what the Volgan skull symbol looks like, but if it is a pretty simple image then maybe that might work out as the best of both worlds.
No, not really large enough. They are about 2-3mm across, and so nicely done, but too small to combine the two.
The Volgan´s symbol is pretty much a yellow skull superimposed on a yello "V" on a black field (circular for icons, and I think a full black flag).
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If you want them to be Volgans, you must ditch the star. You can't just keep it because it is pretty. If you like it so much buy some more to paint up differently that you can keep the star on.
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If you want them to be Volgans, you must ditch the star. You can't just keep it because it is pretty. If you like it so much buy some more to paint up differently that you can keep the star on.
I´m prepared to do so, but must admit that it was tempting. As said, the "newer" stuff uses more "Soviet" icons, but I did a mock-image of a Hind sporting the Skull and it´s much better that way. Otherwise, they´d just be "just some other Neo-Soviets", and not Volgans.
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Love them.
Robo-jaws is my favourite ABC warriors character by far! I haven't read those comics in years! :)
Might just have to. :)
Great job, and good god, I want the FOundry 2000AD range...
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Great job, and good god, I want the FOundry 2000AD range...
They DO have a 20% Discount sale running now until 2 December, you know... ;)
Ah, I´m such an evil spoiler of the young... lol
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As said, the "newer" stuff uses more "Soviet" icons...
Ah, didn't realise that. Me and 2000AD parted company (amicably enough) about twenty years ago! They always were obviously Soviets, but it wasn't polite to say so back in the old days while there were still real Soviets about (and we're so polite in Britain). Same reason all the Bond films have SPECTRE instead of SMERSH, I guess.
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Ah, didn't realise that. Me and 2000AD parted company (amicably enough) about twenty years ago! They always were obviously Soviets, but it wasn't polite to say so back in the old days while there were still real Soviets about (and we're so polite in Britain). Same reason all the Bond films have SPECTRE instead of SMERSH, I guess.
Yes, indeed. The new "Volgan Wars" books by Langley, while quite overwrought even for my taste, are far more openly revelling in their Soviet iconology and almost as blunt and, well dumbish as the old Invasion! and ABC Warriors Volgan stuff.
But I´ll go for the Skull and V. Oldschool, comparatively unique in a wargaming context, and I´ve already scraped and filed all the little stars off.
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Ah, didn't realise that. Me and 2000AD parted company (amicably enough) about twenty years ago! They always were obviously Soviets, but it wasn't polite to say so back in the old days while there were still real Soviets about (and we're so polite in Britain). Same reason all the Bond films have SPECTRE instead of SMERSH, I guess.
SPECTRE was in the novels as well... can't remember off the top of my head though which ones...
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SPECTRE was in the novels as well... can't remember off the top of my head though which ones...
Yes, they are the bad guys in the "Blofeld trilogy" (Thunderball, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and You Only Live Twice). But films of books involving SMERSH (which was a real Soviet agency) either changed the organisation to SPECTRE (From Russia with Love), or removed it altogether (Live and Let Die, Goldfinger). It was thought, especially in the mid-sixties, than tensions were high enough as it was, without annoying Moscow even more by making them the bad guys in all the Bond films.
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Im a massive 2000ad fan and these are ace!!!!!
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Well then, folks, here are the first images of the Volgan forces. At the moment, being human infantry, they are more "early war" and suitable for Volgan Occupation Forces vs. British Resistance (yes, a Bill Savage is planned once I get the suitable figure), and I´ll add Volgan war robots later on, again, as I find suitable figures. I certainly wished Pig Iron did more robots in the style of their packbot... I´ll probably have to convert Necrons with Kalashnikovs.
Infantry from Copplestone Castings:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/VOLGSQUAD_01.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/VOLGSQUAD_02.jpg)
APC by Imprint Models (BMP-3):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/VOLG_APC.jpg)
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Oh vary nice! I like :D
I think I know of a few other companys that make robots, I will post more later when I am not falling asleep at the comp but check out http://www.alphaforgegames.com/homepage.html
They have a few good or at least intersting droids in there sets.
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Three plainclothes operatives of the Volgan Secret Police (VSP):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/VOLGAGENTS.jpg)
"KGB Men" from the KKBB range (Copplestone KKBB108).
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Everything looks great Chris, looking forward to seeing what you come up with next ;D
on a side note i really should get some pics of my rogue trooper project posted (thanks for all your help with that)
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Keeps geting better an better
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Wow! I was going to say how much I liked your ABC Warriors (more than the series, which I can't stand - gets in the way of good stuff like Sinister Dexter, Nikolai Dante, and others)...
...and then I saw your Volgs! Ace! I love them, and the retro-vibe they've got, harking back to the original (and now the latest books, which have reset the Volgs to the Soviet-Russian look after the excellent interlude where they were all wearing US-style gear, which I personally feel worked better).
Now - do more Volgs, and some British Resistance, and... err... more!
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Yeah more! One more song! one more song!
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After some 6 months of inactivity (*cough cough*), I'm happy to say I rekindled my interest in the ABC/2000AD stuff when I bought the collected Ro-Busters and the second "Volgan War" collection. I originally set out converting a GW Necron figure to resemble "Zippo" from the latest incarnation of the franchise, but that didn't really work out too well (although I'll post pics once I'm done painting).
Therefore, I decided to give the Volgan Timeline a little rest and revisit the Termight/Terran Empire/Khaos Chronicles setting, and spent yesterday evening on a break from revising (god, I despise that e-Business managespeak drivel. I'm so happy my BSc is in Logistics.) and built this:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/MEK-QUAKE_WIP_001.jpg)
It is, indeed the promised/threatened Killdozer/Tank variant of Mek-Quake. The main inspiration was Simon Bisley's version:
(http://www.dreamnation.fsnet.co.uk/mek3.jpg)
Nonetheless, I also used elements from the later instances where Mek-Quake used this (or a similar) body.
It's been primered and I hope to get to paint it tonight and tomorrow. The arms, by the way, are attached using rare earth magnets, which will allow for some variation in posing, as well as adding variant arms at a later time and making transport much easier. You cannot see it from here, but the rear features a "transport bay" that will hold up to six figures on 25mm bases, or a mix of small and large-based figures. Deadlock shown for size.
Thanks for looking!
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absolutely superb... get it cast :D
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Wow, nice work all round, but that tank variant is lurvely. :o :)
Is it all scratch built?
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Wow, nice work all round, but that tank variant is lurvely. :o :)
Is it all scratch built?
Yes, plastic sheet in various thicknesses (1mm-0.1mm), basswod as spacers and cores for some parts, some metal washers, and some plastic plugs which I found at my local B&Q which are designed for linking plastic flexible tubing (for home-brewing and stuff). I hope the latter will take the paint, but they are of a rather hard plastic and the basecoat, at least, seems to stick nicely.
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Wow! I need one of those for...well, BIG JOBS!
You are my new hero of modeling! :-*
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:-* Fantastic :-*
I know that people say this all the time but honestly, I would pay good money for a kit of that.
Do you have any pictures of the rear? Have you made it somewhat flatbed like, so that the rest of the ABCs can ride around?
You have captured the look and feel of the character absolutely perfectly with the snake-like neck and the expressive hands.
Seriously impressive work (and on one of my favourite subjects. The last time that I built a Mek-Quake I was about nine and it was out of Lego), absolutely top class :D
absolutely superb... get it cast
Oh for the love of sweet divine Jesus, yes.
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:-* Fantastic :-*
I know that people say this all the time but honestly, I would pay good money for a kit of that.
Oh dear. lol
Do you have any pictures of the rear? Have you made it somewhat flatbed like, so that the rest of the ABCs can ride around?
I'll snap off a number of pics now that I cleaned out my work table. Yes, I've done a moderately-detailed flatbed 8x5cm wide to hold the ABC warriors (although I may have to get the "small" Hammerstein as well, but we'll see that), with panel lines on the floor and some side struts. I haven't yet built a rear ramp/door, but may do that at a later time with an optional shovelplate to go in the front (as seen in "Hellbringer").
You have captured the look and feel of the character absolutely perfectly with the snake-like neck and the expressive hands.
Thanks, I'm actually rather happy how he turned out, and now that it is primered, I'm really keen at painting it straight away.
absolutely superb... get it cast :D
Oh for the love of sweet divine Jesus, yes.
I may look into it at a later time (i.e. building a better, second master and seeing if I can get reproduction rights). Call me a wuss, but I really don't want to get into any legal trouble.
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As promised, two more shots of the unpainted model. I've applied the first coat of green, but the stuff I chose (Vallejo Game Color Dark Green) is horribly patchy, much worse than I remembered.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/P1010541.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/P1010540.jpg)
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well half of Frothers will either buy it if you cast it, or kill you if you don't lol
http://frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26331&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
at the very least, you need to do a how to, templates, whatever... especially for that neck...
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Gorgeous I wish I had half the talent that you do!
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Seriously impressive work (and on one of my favourite subjects. The last time that I built a Mek-Quake I was about nine and it was out of Lego), absolutely top class :D
Oh for a picture of that! lol
On the other hand, this is a great, great build. BIG JOBS! :D
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Hei Christian,
Like your ABC-Stuff.
Great Job :-*
Maybe its a little out off-topic, but a few years ago a friend of mine made a "Scratch-Built" inspired by Hammerstein/ABC/Judge Dredd:
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Comsquare/IMG_0290Large.jpg)
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Comsquare/DSC01701.jpg)
The funny thing about it was, that one the con he showed his costume the first time, there was also Pat Mills in the backstage-area.
He liked it very much and signed it.
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Now that's just brill. :-* Superb work.
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Yes, but not so comfortable to wear and difficult to walk with lol
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Brilliant stuff, have you painted your second Mongrel yet?
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well half of Frothers will either buy it if you cast it, or kill you if you don't lol
http://frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26331&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
at the very least, you need to do a how to, templates, whatever... especially for that neck...
Yeah, but I wouldn't listen to any of those neanderthals.
However, they may be right. The vehicle is awesome and should be cast up! :D
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Superb work, Chris! I'm impressed about your clean scratchbuilding techniques. Looking forward to see it painted.
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the tank thing is looking awesome, that costume does too
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Painted pics!
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC_MEK-QUAKE_TANK_VARIANT.jpg)
Larger views:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/MEK-QUAKE_TANKDOZER_1.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/MEK-QUAKE_TANKDOZER_2.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/MEK-QUAKE_TANKDOZER_3.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/MEK-QUAKE_TANKDOZER_4.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/MEK-QUAKE_TANKDOZER_5.jpg)
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Very, very nice :-*
Love it
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Amazing!!
By the way did you paint the symbols on the Volgan helmets by hand?
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By the way did you paint the symbols on the Volgan helmets by hand?
Yup, although it is very much simplified (just two strokes and a dot of yellow, and two more dots for the eyes).
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:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*...
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Boooootiful!
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Excellent stuff
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Nice work Chris.
:D
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Fantastic!
Did you print out the "Big Jobs!" screen or did you paint it?
The whole thing looks brilliant one way or the other. Great work.
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Did you print out the "Big Jobs!" screen or did you paint it?
I did it in Photoshop in high resolution, using the "Westminster BT" font and some layer style tweaking to make it look like a cathode ray tube image, and then printed it, attached it using PVA and gave it a glosscoat to finish it up.
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(although I may have to get the "small" Hammerstein as well, but we'll see that)
As discussed before, the "small" Hammerstein isnt as nice a sculpt as "big" Hammerstein, but is far more in scale with the rest of the ABC miniatures.
Foundry have a 20%-off sale at the moment too...
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As discussed before, the "small" Hammerstein isnt as nice a sculpt as "big" Hammerstein, but is far more in scale with the rest of the ABC miniatures.
Foundry have a 20%-off sale at the moment too...
And I'm pretty much strapped for cash until the 3rd of June to make a worthwile order (i.e. one where the discount exceeds the postage). >:(
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Ford? I thought it was a John Deere at first. Excellent work.
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Ford? I thought it was a John Deere at first. Excellent work.
Ha! :D Good one, and thanks.
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A converted "Terri" (from "The Black Hole"):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC-WARRIORS_TERRI.jpg)
Original model:
http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/0066Biker.gif
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A converted "Terri" (from "The Black Hole")
Nice. Despite the strange proportions in Bisleys art in that story it looks like you have picked an ideal figure to represent her.
Im more of a Khronicles/Hellbringer era fan myself but anything ABC related gets a thumbs up from me.
Did you ever finish off the second Mongrol?
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Nice. Despite the strange proportions in Bisleys art in that story it looks like you have picked an ideal figure to represent her.
The hair is a bit off, but I didn't trust my sculpting skills to do an 80s hairdo; so I settled for the flowing one on the EM-4 figure and concentrated on the pants and the ragged top.
Im more of a Khronicles/Hellbringer era fan myself but anything ABC related gets a thumbs up from me.
I'm currently in the planning stage for a squad of Imperial Rottweilers. Hopefully, I'll get to that over the summer.
Did you ever finish off the second Mongrol?
It's halfway painted. Since I last posted about it. Which goes to say a lot about my motivation. lol Seriously though, I tink the first one turned out better in pose and size afterall. I'll still try to finish the second one, nonetheless.
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I'm currently in the planning stage for a squad of Imperial Rottweilers. Hopefully, I'll get to that over the summer.
Early GW stuff always had a lot of 2000AD influences. Obviously a lot of that was because the did (and sometimes still do) use the same UK based artists.
The Rottweilers were a rarer occurence of the reverse happening, where GW stuff influenced 2000ad rather than the other way around.
Are you planning to use GW Terminators as the base for the Rottweilers, or something else?
It's halfway painted. Since I last posted about it. Which goes to say a lot about my motivation. lol Seriously though, I tink the first one turned out better in pose and size afterall. I'll still try to finish the second one, nonetheless.
Well, if you dont need a second Mongrol and want to give that one a good home where it will get lovingly painted then I am sure that we could come to some arrangement :)
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Early GW stuff always had a lot of 2000AD influences. Obviously a lot of that was because the did (and sometimes still do) use the same UK based artists.
The Rottweilers were a rarer occurence of the reverse happening, where GW stuff influenced 2000ad rather than the other way around.
Are you planning to use GW Terminators as the base for the Rottweilers, or something else?
I'm currently a bit unsure on that. I'm leaning towards the GW plastic terminators for several reasons:
1. From what I see, the new kits have separate torsi and legs, which would make filling up the legs easier.
2. The shoulder pads seem to be separate pieces, so by losing them, I could disguise the model origin AND use the arms which look to be nicely sculpted.
Problem:
1. I am unsure how to treat the torso tops. I would either have to saw out a section to make those two protrusions (I think I'll go for the blocky ones from the Khaos Chronicles, and not the more fluid lines in Hellbringer), or add some plastic strip on top and front; the first would be more work, but would probably look better, the latter would still be recognisable as Termis. Beefing up the torso front is a minor problem, I think.
Well, if you dont need a second Mongrol and want to give that one a good home where it will get lovingly painted then I am sure that we could come to some arrangement :)
"The ad said 'no pets'!" lol
I'd be inclined to do so, if you have anything you'd like to swap and which would be useful to me (1ed Warzone Capitol Infantry, or Void 1.1. VASA Marines...)
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Taking advantage of their recent 20% discount, I ordered from Foundry for the first time, the "Compendium" and the (until now missing) "Small Hammerstein, as well as a second Blackblood mini which I converted to the Jackhammer Peg Leg he uses after "The Black Hole". The latter one is still on the painting table, but I thought I'd show Old Red Eyes until then.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC_HAMMERSTEIN_SMALL.jpg)
Overall, cleanly sculpted and cast, but the pose is very static, and some proportions like the helmet and hammer seem a bit off; nonetheless, sizewise, it fits much better with the other figures than the Big Hammerstein figure.
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Cool stuff. What an excellent project.
Any idea of the rules you'll be using? :)
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Cool stuff. What an excellent project.
Any idea of the rules you'll be using? :)
I'm currently considering adapting the Triumph and Tragedy Scifi Rules I wrote up some time ago to handle one side of 7 heroes.
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Cooool.
I'm wondering if the new MGP Judge Dredd rules might handle ABC Warriors too. You never know. :?
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Cooool.
I'm wondering if the new MGP Judge Dredd rules might handle ABC Warriors too. You never know. :?
I'd consider them if they play anywhere near as nice as the original Starship Trooper rules from Mongoose. I've heard they may put out a free "starter ruleset", in which case I'll gladly give them a try.
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Nah, they're putting out all the rules for free.
SST was nice, but I wouldn't have rated it that highly. It was just 2nd edition 40k really.
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Nah, they're putting out all the rules for free.
SST was nice, but I wouldn't have rated it that highly. It was just 2nd edition 40k really.
This is all news to me. Are Mongoose getting into miniature games again?
More importantly, nice work on Hammerstein. Like you say, the proportions are not half as nice on that figure as on the original (but way to large) Foundry Hammerstein figure. You made a lovely and immediately recognisable job of painting it regardless.
Great execution of a fantastic project. Are you going to leave it at that (plus the peg-leg Blackblood, my favourite variant of the character) or are there more ABC's to come?
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This is all news to me. Are Mongoose getting into miniature games again?
No I don't think so, but they have put some of their rules as free download, but I do not know, if they did it with the Starship Trooper rules.
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No I don't think so, but they have put some of their rules as free download, but I do not know, if they did it with the Starship Trooper rules.
Mate, you should really check that before posting.
They are NOT putting some of their old rules as free download.
A miniatures game, based on the Judge Dredd background WILL be released. They have sculpts ready, they have the rules ready, they playtested a couple of years ago and they announced it about a month ago.
Starship troopers will definately not be re-released, because of the liscense (not only to Sony, but also the original rules writer, I would imagine).
Mongoose are not 'getting into' miniatures games. They are dipping their toes in. It seems liscensed RPGs sell better than Liscensed Wargames. GOMC1 stopped selling pretty quickly, SST did and ACTA continued to sell right up until they stopped making it. However, I think they shut it down because it made nowhere near as much as they made from books. Victory at Sea is currently their best selling wargame and they plan to have no miniatures released for it. Battlefield Evolution failed to sell very well, even when they stopped making the models.
I'm really, really looking forward to the JD game, hoping they will do some tourneys like they did for SST, those were great fun!
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The geezer from Mongoose (Matt?) announced on Frothers that there will be a range of minis for GoMC1 varied enough to crew a whole Sector House, plus assorted muties, crazies, citizens and other goodness.
I'm also fairly sure there was talk of a plastic kit for a Manta Tank. Which would be awesome.
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Yeah, Matt Sprange. Kinda short fella, usually walks around the office with no shoes on. Posh accent too. Has 2 Jags I believe. lol
I did work experience at Mongoose for a week and only saw him when he went out for a fag!
I really hope it is a biiiiig range, bigger than the old GW one! Manta tank? Oooooooh that would be cool. Everyone on the GOMC1 forums used to joke about it, but we all wanted it to come true.
The best I've heard is that the fattie model will be rereleased with some new options, i.e. you will be able to host the fattie olympics!!!! lol
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Great execution of a fantastic project. Are you going to leave it at that (plus the peg-leg Blackblood, my favourite variant of the character) or are there more ABC's to come?
I've got a Zippo on the painting table, but cannot quite bring myself to finish him up because I used the wrong legs for the conversion and now the proportions are all wrong.
I'm still looking for suitable models to do Happy Shrapnel (probably modify an EM-4 skeletal robot), Later Steelhorn, Mad Ronn and Hitaki, (although the latter are a bit on the back burner because I'm not sure if I love the Nemesis books or consider them thoroughly disturbed, making me weep for Pat Mills' apparently horrid childhood).
As for opponents, a more near-term thing will be a squad of Imperial Rottweilers, and come autumn, I'll do a platoon or so of "Eternal Soldiers" including Major Savard (planning for those is finalised). As for the Rottweilers, I'll go into more detail later today, because I'd value some input concerning basic models for the conversions.
"Possibles" are a squad each of Psycho-Bikers and of Mekaniks (can you get "Legions of Steel" miniatures anywhere these days?). Depending on me staying motivated and focused (*cough*), I think this may be a "single project" for the rest of the year.
As you see, I'll likely focus on the Black Hole storyline, although I may put them a bit back if I find suitable models for the "Return to Mars" cycle (Third Element, Shadow Warriors), because I'd really like to do some motorised Terran Biohazard Troops, and Confederate Clones (as originally projected back in September last year, *cough*). If I focus on Mars, some cyboons might be nice, and maybe those Soy Cowboys from "The Meknificent Seven" (probably easiest, what with all those cowboy ranges out nowadays - just have to find a way to make them look more futuristic apart from gun swaps and parachute-silk pants).
For lack of suitable models (as of now), I've postponed the original Volgan War focus. Still have to do more procurement research and maybe some study models.
All in all, though, there is a ton of potential, and each OPFOR option could be done at relatively low cost (a platoon or so of figures, and vehicles mostly scratchbuilt).
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You know, I replied to the thread and completely forgot to say how brilliant your stuff is Chris. The Killdozer is a superb build and your painting is as ever fantastic.
Looking forward to seeing your other Warriors in time. :)
Manta tank? Oooooooh that would be cool. Everyone on the GOMC1 forums used to joke about it, but we all wanted it to come true.
Lets hope he wasn't just perpetuating the joke then...
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Lets hope he wasn't just perpetuating the joke then...
If he is, he's getting a slap! lol
Nah, I doubt I'd be able to afford it anyway! Would be cool to see!
Perhaps they will continue the Mongoose Infantry and I'll sign up again, demo for them! :)
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Here's the aforementioned "peg-legged" Blackblood. The leg was cut off one ring segment beneath the knee joint using a Stanley knife. The jackhammer is a length of plastic rod, inserted into a hole drilled into the thigh for stability, and some heat-shaped plastic tube slipped over.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC_BLACKBLOOD_PEGLEG.jpg)
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The new Blackblood is nice. I see the peg leg as part of the definitive image of the character, so its nice to see that you took the time to add it.
It looks like you have loads of stuff planned for your ABC project, very ambitious.
I will be around to cheer on any and all ABC stuff that you come up with, particularly when it is of such high standard :-*
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:-* <3 Pegleg Blackblood!
Any plans to do the zombie bikers from the prequel story when the Warriors first go back to clean up the red planet?
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:-* <3 Pegleg Blackblood!
Any plans to do the zombie bikers from the prequel story when the Warriors first go back to clean up the red planet?
"Fried Jung Cannibals", indeed! Yes, I will certainly add a gang of those (and not just because the episode is one of the best-drawn in the book), but I'm not quite sure what figures to use, because they are rather distinct both in their punk/biker attire and their deformed zombieness. That and the preference that they should match the Foundry/Copplestone style makes it a bit tricky. :?
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Over the last few days, I painted up Nemesis the Warlock and Torquemada, and hope to do Johnny Alpha, Wulf and the Gronk over the weekend.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/NTW_NEMESIS.jpg)
For Nemesis, I cut off the sword arm above the wristband and where the sword meets the cloak, cut down the sword to the hilt and added a new blade from plasticard on a central pin; the coat was cut down to hide the missing items, since I was unsure if I should re-model the now-missing edge (I think it's okay now). The hand was then pinned to the arm. A simple, but effective conversion, although I'll have to get a proper fine metal saw if I'll attempt any more like that. Anyway, I think the pose looks much better now, and not as cramped as the original.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/NTW_TORQUEMADA.jpg)
Torquemada is straight from the blister, apart from the usual cleanup.
Both painted with Vallejo and Revell acrylics.
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Lovely! I like Torquemada in particular.
I enjoyed the oddly humorous portrayal of Torquemada in the early Nemesis strips and so I am a fan of the character (as much as anyone can be a fan of an "arch-bigot").
I think that the cross pollination of Torquemada and his Inquisitors into the early development of the WH40K universe was a big influence in my original interest in that setting all those years ago.
Seeing as scratch building vehicles seems to be one of your specialties, do you have any plans for a Blitzspear to cart Nemesis around in? I dont think that I have ever seen a model of that and it really is a distinctive design I think.
The addition of the Strontium Dog contingent spreads the project out a bit. It looks like this fantastic project is expanding further into "...and Friends" territory.
Not that I am complaining mind :) Keep the inspirational work coming please.
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Lovely! I like Torquemada in particular.
I enjoyed the oddly humorous portrayal of Torquemada in the early Nemesis strips and so I am a fan of the character (as much as anyone can be a fan of an "arch-bigot").
I think that the cross pollination of Torquemada and his Inquisitors into the early development of the WH40K universe was a big influence in my original interest in that setting all those years ago.
Yup, I got the two collections, and the first one (up to and including the "Gothic Empire" storyline) is great to brilliant. I'm less happy with the second half, it goes downhill rather quickly, but that may be due to the rather tiring and not as well-drawn art (again possibly a personal issue).
Seeing as scratch building vehicles seems to be one of your specialties, do you have any plans for a Blitzspear to cart Nemesis around in? I dont think that I have ever seen a model of that and it really is a distinctive design I think.
Actually, yes, I have considered it, and since Blitzspear doesn't really consist of complicated shapes, I think I may tackle it sometime this summer or autumn.
The addition of the Strontium Dog contingent spreads the project out a bit. It looks like this fantastic project is expanding further into "...and Friends" territory.
Not that I am complaining mind :) Keep the inspirational work coming please.
I see what you mean. The focus will certainly stay on the ABC Warriors, and I mainly got the various "other cast" to take advantage of the 20% off. Apart from that, they are not necessarily considered to detract from the main project; I just don't want to clutter the Future Wars board with more threads than necessary. Furthermore, one of my favourite aspects of the Strontium Dog timeline is that you could easily link it with the others as a crossover.
Maybe I'll try to bring a bit of structure into my ramblings.
1. The ABC Warriors, in various permutations of the team, but obviously incomplete due to the lack of "major and minor team members". I will CERTAINLY do a Happy Shrapnel figure, and I still have to finish that Zippo. I MAY do Mad Ronn and Hitaki, and I have a number of EM-4 Skelebots which WILL be remodeled as Straw Dogs. I've also remembered I still got a bunch of old VASA Marines at my parents' place which I'll collect later this month and use as a basis for Eternal Soldiers; once I find suitable base models, I'll do the promised Rottweiler squad.
2. Nemesis and Torquemada are done, basically as one-offs, but obviously to expand the usability of the ABC Warriors figs. May build a Blitzspear, but that's low priority. May also attempt to sculpt a Thoth mini to use with Satanus (see below).
3. A bunch of Judges, Klegg, Gorilla Mobsters and Perps (old Citadel) are assembled and need priming. Don't really want to do a full Judge Dredd thing, since that would detract to much, but I'll paint up those that I have; may build a Land Raider, but that's not fixed. I DO have a 1/35th scale Tamiya T-Rex kit which will eventually end up as Satanus, because of its cross-setting usability. All in all, the Judge Dredd stuff is low priority.
4. The three Strontium Dog characters, primed and ready to paint (hope to do them this weekend, but don't count on it, what with the Germany game tomorrow).
5. A single Rogue Trooper. I just bought that one for fun. Stands a head taller than my Hasslefree Hazmats, so will probably be a one-off for the time being.
Anyway, I'll focus on the ABC Warriors. I've got a very, very sketchy concept to turn it into a convention game based VERY LOOSELY on "The Black Hole", with the table depicting the Time Wastes tunnels, allowing to use elements from other 2000AD strips at random. But that's a very sketchy early concept possibility lol and may not see the light of day before 2011.
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I look forward to seeing that game! And I do hope you have a go at Hitaki and Mad Ronn - you'd be the first to try as far as I know, and I have a great fondness for Bryan Talbot's interpretation of the Seven, including those short-lived members. Mad Ronn could be a particular challenge because he looks so fiddly, but if you've got skelebots or something akin to GW's Necrons I'd venture that they'd make a good armature.
I can see where the temptation to go the "...and friends" route would lie. Nemesis alone and logistically could also include a Purity Brown figure along with Thoth, or at a pinch his late familiar Grobbendonk ;)
Also looking forward to seeing your versions of Hap and Zippo. I'm very impressed by what you've done so far!
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More "friends":
Johnny Alpha, Wulf Sternhammer and the Gronk.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/STRONTIUMDOG_2.jpg)
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Great job on Blackblood! Actually, great job on all of these - Johnny Alpha is very cool!
Brings back happy memories of lazy afternoons reading 2000AD - very dim and vague memories, which I blame on too many concussions, but happy nonetheless!
Excellent project - keep up the great work!
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Nice one as ever, Chris!
Got those Strontium Dog figs in my birthday package (which I can't have till the weekend :'() so it looks like you'r e set the bar for me again.
Curiously, I also turfed out the old Citadel set the other day. Been in the back of the bits box for about twenty years, completely forgotten I had it :o ! I wonder how they'll compare size-wise? Not well, I should imagine...
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Nice one as ever, Chris!
Got those Strontium Dog figs in my birthday package (which I can't have till the weekend :'() so it looks like you'r e set the bar for me again.
Curiously, I also turfed out the old Citadel set the other day. Been in the back of the bits box for about twenty years, completely forgotten I had it :o ! I wonder how they'll compare size-wise? Not well, I should imagine...
Blatantly speaking, I was dumbstruck at how large the Strontium Dog and Rogue Trooper Foundry stuff is. I'd expected some 28-30, but they are easily in the 32-35 bracket - I put them next to my Citadel Judges (to be painted after I return from Germany end of the month), and they are easily two heads taller, a good 10-12mm, depending on the model.
That said, the sculpting (on Johnny Alpha in particular) is superb, and the Gronk is so spot on.
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Well, if I get chance over the weekend, I may take a comparison shot and post it up, just for laughs. Do you mind if I stick it in here, or would you prefer I started a new thread? Don't want to muck yours up.
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Well, if I get chance over the weekend, I may take a comparison shot and post it up, just for laughs. Do you mind if I stick it in here, or would you prefer I started a new thread? Don't want to muck yours up.
Nah, just go ahead - I'll be off for the weekend anyway (moving out Saturday, graduating Monday, flying to Germany on Tuesday), so I won't notice it until Tuesday evening, anyway.
The ABC focus has been watered down already by myself, anyway, and will be even more once I paint those Judges, Klegg and Satanus.
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Nice! Ta. :)
(And congratulations on graduating!)
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The Strontium Dogs are great. My Johnny Alpha is half painted since 2003 :(
Funnily enough I think that my favourite of the three is actually the Gronk. He looks absolutely perfect. A great sculpt of the character and you completely nailed it with the paint job.
The three of them are fantastic, some of the best work on this project so far I reckon :)
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Well, if I get chance over the weekend, I may take a comparison shot and post it up, just for laughs.
Better late than never, since last weekend was lost to excessive drinking. ::)
Here's the comparison, anyway, Foundry to the left, old Citadel to the right.
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb155/GrunterPulpit/2000%20AD/CFcrop.jpg)
You can see that the Foundry figs are around 1/3 larger than the originals. Definitely do not mix well...
Hope that's of some use or interest to those of you who collect this stuff. And thanks to Chris for letting me make a small hijacking. :)
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Chris!
Cracking work as always! I like Johnny Alpha, not that he's my fav character or anything... ;)
Keep up the good work.
On a side note, i am still working on my Rogue trooper game. I have some Norts converted from GW cadians and i think they have come up well. Hopefully will get round to pics soon. I also have lots more Foundry 2000AD to paint :)
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Those are absoloutley stunning, very well done!!!
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I love this whole thread! Great subject matter, great selection of miniatures, amazing scratchbuilding, amazing painting, just great!
I've been on a big 2000AD fix since I had a read through the playtest Judge Dredd rules from Mongoose - that led to me requesting a bunch of stuff from the local library including various ABC Warrior collections. This project might just sway me into buying a few of the Foundry miniatures (if it wasn't for that horrible postage I probably would have already!).
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I didn't see this thread until now.
I have been thinking along similar lines, but never got further than this post on my blog...
there might be some mongrel and happy shrapnel help there...:)
http://brandlin.blogspot.com/search/label/ABC%20Warriors (http://brandlin.blogspot.com/search/label/ABC%20Warriors)
oh, and that mek quake is the biz... i was looking to make a kit... laser cut parts like my buildings, but its a bit on the back burner at the moment... do you have plans?
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Hey folks,
finally got back into the modelling and painting routine. FYI, I did an experimental Rottweiler miniature based on a GW terminator; expensive, and didn't work out; I'll post pics anyway, once I paint it. Anyway, I opted for a different approach and ordered a bunch of VOID 1.1 figures, Viridian Assault Marines (plastic) to use as a basis for Rottweilers and VASA Marines for Eternal Soldiers.
On the latter, I'd like some input. In the comic "The Black Hole", the Eternal Soldiers (Terran conquest troops during the "Classical Period" under Emperor Zalinn) are obviously only depicted in black and white, and not necessarily consistent - their uniform and equipment tone varies depending on the background and the effect the artist wishes to convey. All nice and works great in the book, but it doesn't make things easier for figure painting.
Here's a panel from "The Black Hole" ((c) Rebellion):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/savetern.jpg)
Based on this and other illustrations, I've whipped up a sketch to explore various colour combinations. I would personally prefer a dark scheme, but with some contrast between the different pieces of clothing, and wouldn't mind more "1980s Scifi-ish" rather than a "pseudorealistic military Scifi-ish" look. If you have any suggestions, I'd be happy to get some feedback.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/eternal_red.jpg)(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/eternal_purple.jpg)(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/eternal_grey.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/eternal_green.jpg)(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/eternal_blue.jpg)(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/eternalblack.jpg)
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if memory serves it was Zalinn that started the Terran Empire which lead to Termight... I'd go with the black, grey or dark red... they're an army of conquest, which gave rise to the most facist facist state ever - blue green and purple just don't scream oppression...
I'm sure those strips would have been recoloured for the US format re-issue of the strip - I have some US dredds and rogues somewhere and they have been fully coloured... maybe a US forum member has some somewhere that could give a colour scheme...
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if memory serves it was Zalinn that started the Terran Empire which lead to Termight... I'd go with the black, grey or dark red... they're an army of conquest, which gave rise to the most facist facist state ever - blue green and purple just don't scream oppression...
That pretty much sums it up, I guess. I included the "imperial purple" on a whim, and I could combine it with black to make it darker; but then, they would look a bit too similar to the original VASA Marine paintjob for my taste.
I'm partial to a black or dark grey scheme, too, especially since it would form a nice contrast to the white Rottweilers (Stormtroopers and Imperial Army, I dare say).
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well you could do an Emperor's Guard in purple... a proto Inquisition in Red...
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I think the first option you mocked up looks good, a sort of dried blood colour for the overall with darker helmet, boots etc. That said, the black or dark grey would look quite menacing, but it is kind of the default colourscheme for evil troopers.
I was thinking of painting my new Grymn in a similar red scheme, so its probably just on my mind at the moment. :D
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Alrighty! After those Nemesis and Strontium Dog diversions, back to proper ABC Warriors territory!
First, a bunch of marginally converted Void 1.1 "VASA Marines" to act as Eternal Soldiers. Since they have quite "comic-book-ish" poses and have a clean sculpting style (I think those are Kev White sculpts), the work well with the Foundry figures, although they are a bit smaller (but some of that is due to the "dramatic spread legs pose").
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/TERMIGHT_ETERNAL_SOLDIERS_SQUAD-1.jpg)
I#ve got another squad of six (with a grenade launcher as a heavy weapon) lined up, and plan to do Major Savard once I find a good working base - actually, I've got one that will require quite some work (and a sex change), but if you know of a short, "plus-size" female figure with short hair and jodhpurs, I'll be happy and grateful to hear suggestions.
Also, I built a first squad of three Rottweilers (including Colin, Blackblood's buddy from when they were torching native huts on Anthrax IV). Colin was the first concept from the second approach - I tried to convert a plastic GW terminator first, but that did not work out. If anybody wants four plastic terminators still in sprue, I'll entertain offers (UK swap preferred), otherwise I'll paint them for my Imperial Fists.
Anyway, these new Rottweilers were based on plastic Void 1.1 Assault Marines. Very good value for money at 50p a figure, although they have some minor flaws. I straightened out the design after Colin, in particular the lower leg parts. I'll build some more as I find time and inspiration (I've still got parts for 7 figures). Building time is already down to 45 minutes per figure. :)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/TERMIGHT_ROTTWEILERS.jpg)
First up, though, I'll paint a "weapons arm" for the tankdozer Mek-Quake. Hope to get that finished over the weekend.
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Hi folks, to follow the last update, I've painted the second squad of Eternal Soldiers, modified slightly differently (and with moderately less work effort). I actually like this variant of the helmet (with two horizontal bars, but no diagonal central bar) better, and will do further squads accordingly (but with shoulder pads). I plan to have four squads in total, with little differences while maintaining an overall similar look.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/TERMIGHT_ETERNAL_SOLDIERS_SQUAD_2.jpg)
I also built a variant arm for the Killdozer Mek-Quake, using the same parts as for the original arm and adding a gun taken from the Karman I tried to convert into a Mongrol figure. I removed the main barrel (surprisingly and pleasantly easy, since it is only plugged into place) and added the slightly tapered muzzle piece (which is from a brewing kit plug, similar to those used for the arms and exhausts).
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC_MEK-QUAKE_TANK_VARIANT_GUN.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC_MEK-QUAKE_TANK_VARIANT_GUN_DETAIL.jpg)
I've become quite interested in the project again, and have an immediate queue of 9 Necromunda Redemptionists, which I'll use as Termight Terminators for the later storylines (led by the Foundry Torquemada seen earlier). I'm still undecided on what colour scheme to use, leaning towards black robes with red accents and symbols, and wouldn't mind hearing suggestions for other options.
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Very nice. :D
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Great stuff! :) That Mek-Quake looks spectacular.
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I agree with Remington - Mek-Quake is fantastic! The eternal guard are very, very nice too - great flesh tones on the bare arms, and the black looks nice and menacing. Top job!
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Hi folks, finally some new mini pics!
When I visited my parents in mid-September (mainly for some medical checks, and a wedding in Wurttemberg with a violet/leopardskin aesthetic theme - don't ask!), I rummaged through some boxes for some figures to take home. Apart from my Freikorps, which I'll finally finish after almost three years (pics next week, hopefully, and finally something more "historical" again), I also took some figures to use for the ABC Warriors project.
First, "Volkhan, Ikon of Ikons", the main antagonist of the current "Volgan War" cycle. The figure is a Heroclix "Major Maxim" with a head made from an EM-4 Robot, a plasticard chin and a putty dome, plus hammer and sickle weaponry from various bits of plastic and brass wire for rigidity.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/VOLGANS_VOLKHAN.jpg)
And here's a pic with his most trusted lieutenant (ha!), Blackblood, for size:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/VOLKHAN_AND_BLACKBLOOD.jpg)
Apart from the moderately sedate pose (which actually fits some artworks in the books quite nicely), I think the mini works nicely with the others, suitably tall and imposing, although with hindsight I should probably have used a 30mm round base - 40 (as for the other "big bots" and Nemesis) would have been a bit too much considering the stance, but the current 25, while lifting him up to size with the others, looks a bit cramped now. But that could be easily rectified, I guess.
And now for something of a curiosity, or rarity, if you like. I bought the next figure some 10 years ago in a little gaming store in Hessia, and from what I recall, it was made by Harlequin (came in one of their blisters). I didn't know about the ABC Warriors back then and just got it for fun, and painted it for a more generic scifi purpose (see below for a pic of the original paintjob).
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC_ROGUE_WARDROID.jpg)
To my mind, the figure has the best general proportions and pose of the various Hammersteins I have done so far (I'll need to get another one of the Excalibur not-Hammies sometime), and is wonderfully clean in its lines and sculpting. The head looks particularly good, and is much more in scale than with the "small" Foundry Hammy. On the other hand, it comes with a minigun (no Hammertime for this one!), and the left arm misses the multicannon/rocketwrist. Unfortunately, I never found this figure anywhere since then, even when Black Tree rereleased the Scifi line some years back.
Thus I decided not to use it as another Hammerstein, but rather paint it as another Mark III variant, which survived the years since the Volgan Wars (or the Battle of Armaggeddon, until they retconned the Dredd and ABC universes apart - in the "Hammerstein" story, there is a dark green war droid which served as inspiration for the paint scheme). That way I can use it as an ally as well as an opponent, depending on scenario requirements. This is the original ("Omega Battalion") paintscheme (actually the second, but the original light gray I painted it in originally was never captured on film or file):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/HARLY_HAMMY.jpg)
And finally a comparison pic with the "Big" and "Small" Hammerstein figures by Foundry.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/HAMMERTIME.jpg)
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Great new pictures.Harlequin did a few sci-fi types.Kev White did a nice range for them.Been picking a few up.I think they were meant to be Star Trek types.They even have the little sign.
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Finally got around to paint Rogue Trooper!
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ROGUE_TROOPER.jpg)
Well-sculpted figure, if a bit stiffly-posed. I chopped off the very thick base which added to an already very tall figure to reduce his height a bit.
The grass comes off a bit green for a devastated hellworld, but who is to say it isn't mutant grass. To quote Gerhard Seyfried, "The grass suffers from cancer, and the shrubbery has plant-AIDS".
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I dont know how I missed this thread! Fantastic and inspirational work. Keep it coming!
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A little update - Venus Bluegenes, got the mini in a bargain bin in Scarborough last weekend.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ROGUE_TROOPER_VENUS_BLUEGENES.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ROGUE_TROOPER_ROGUE_AND_VENUS.jpg)
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Only just caught this thread and all I can say is WOW!!! :o :o :o
Brings back my mis-spent youth, where 2000AD wasnt just a year it was an eternity away...
Loving all the pj's and conversions.
Excellent work, the comic strip lives!
Caught the bit about scale earlier- How would the Foundry versions fit into the 40mm scale range?
Been (ever so sloooowly) putting a bunch of figures together for a Hellboy themed game in this scale and thought some of the figures would travel well with very little conversion.
Anyone have any figures for comparison?
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From my experience, sizes in the 2000AD range tend to differ. The ABC Warriors sculpts are all more in line with the "usual" 28mm offerings (to say, they work good next to the Void 1.1 minis I've been using for opposition), but other offerings are much taller. The Strontium Dog minis are very tall, as are the Rogue Trooper minis (34mm foot-to-eye, 37-38 from foot to top-of-helm/top-of-quiff) - both look a bit out of place next to normal-sized figures, but I am unsure if "proper" 40mm figures wouldn't be too large for them. If you can get 36mm stuff, they might just work.
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From my experience, sizes in the 2000AD range tend to differ. The ABC Warriors sculpts are all more in line with the "usual" 28mm offerings (to say, they work good next to the Void 1.1 minis I've been using for opposition), but other offerings are much taller. The Strontium Dog minis are very tall, as are the Rogue Trooper minis (34mm foot-to-eye, 37-38 from foot to top-of-helm/top-of-quiff) - both look a bit out of place next to normal-sized figures, but I am unsure if "proper" 40mm figures wouldn't be too large for them. If you can get 36mm stuff, they might just work.
Thanks for the swift reply , Chris.
Best bet is to just try out Venus anyway, as she will probably work by the sounds of it, even if she is a little smaller, and take it from there.
BTW- I have some of those VOID figures knocking around. You have given me an idea for their use.....hmmmm
Thanks again!
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I somehow seem to have missed this thread since before the Rotteweilers showed up (one of my favourites from an entire thread jam packed with favourites).
Mek Quake gets better every time that I look at him.
Fantastic, inspiring stuff Chris.
Keep it up!
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I somehow seem to have missed this thread since before the Rotteweilers showed up (one of my favourites from an entire thread jam packed with favourites).
Mek Quake gets better every time that I look at him.
Fantastic, inspiring stuff Chris.
Keep it up!
Honestly, you shouldn't feel too bad about that - given that I seem to update it once every three to four MONTHs now, I myself am a bit surprised to see it come up in "latest posts"... lol
Anyway, I'll have to see where I will take this. I still have a huge lot of Judges to paint, but can't really wrap my head around the paint scheme (which you pulled off marvellously). I am wont to call it heresy myself, but I am leaning to painting them in the "movie uniform" style, just to get it done (I primered them poorly, somehow, and the paint is coming off even during painting - will have to strip them, anyway). That said, I really liked painting the bright yellows on Johnny Alpha, and the judges would look really good in the dark blue/yellow combo, too... gah! Basically, they combine all my favourite colours to paint (olive green, yellow, blackish blue, red accents, and skin), but I just cannot get them done.
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I am wont to call it heresy myself, but I am leaning to painting them in the "movie uniform" style, just to get it done
To me the defining element of the 1995 movie uniform was gold shoulder pads. The old comics means yellow shoulder pads (to me at least). Personally I think that two gold pads looks a little fruity, a little peculiar. YMMV of course. Part of the semi-mythical appeal of Judge Dredd is that that sort of thing isnt locked down, allowing for some variation in artistic interpretation.
Modern Dredd stories often have a gold eagle and a yellow left shoulder pad. This is the approach that I took.
Bizarrely and unexpectedly I think that one gold and one yellow pad actually makes the Judge uniform a little less gaudy, which is a good thing considering how ostentatious the uniform is to begin with.
Principal photography on the upcoming "Dredd" movie is finished with the movie out next year. Seeing as you have waited so long already maybe wait a little more and see if something in that inspires you?
There must be more 2000AD stuff to keep you busy until you get inspired. There are Finnegan Sinister and Ramone Dexter figures at East Riding Miniatures (http://shop.eastridingminiatures.co.uk/corporate-enforcers-90-c.asp) if they float you boat for example :)
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To me the defining element of the 1995 movie uniform was gold shoulder pads. The old comics means yellow shoulder pads (to me at least). Personally I think that two gold pads looks a little fruity, a little peculiar. YMMV of course. Part of the semi-mythical appeal of Judge Dredd is that that sort of thing isnt locked down, allowing for some variation in artistic interpretation.
Modern Dredd stories often have a gold eagle and a yellow left shoulder pad. This is the approach that I took.
Bizarrely and unexpectedly I think that one gold and one yellow pad actually makes the Judge uniform a little less gaudy, which is a good thing considering how ostentatious the uniform is to begin with.
Principal photography on the upcoming "Dredd" movie is finished with the movie out next year. Seeing as you have waited so long already maybe wait a little more and see if something in that inspires you?
Honestly, this is the first time I hear they are doing a new Judge Dredd movie! :o Quite interested to see how that turns out. They've been lying around since last year's Fiasco, so some more months won't hurt them.
There must be more 2000AD stuff to keep you busy until you get inspired. There are Finnegan Sinister and Ramone Dexter figures at East Riding Miniatures (http://shop.eastridingminiatures.co.uk/corporate-enforcers-90-c.asp) if they float you boat for example :)
Well, I still have a load of "raw material" to build more Rottweilers, and am thinking about ordering the new 4-pack of Rogue Trooper infantry from Foundry (although I would definitely prefer to get something else too, to eliminate the outrageous postage - 18 quid for four figures just is a bit too stiff, even for my taste). Maybe a Nort tank in between, and I've also got a bunch of robots earmarked for Volg or Western warbots, but at the moment, I'm quite busy painting goblins and a certain Space Marine captain. ;)
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Maybe a Nort tank in between,
Honestly, this is the first time I hear they are doing a new Judge Dredd movie! :o
Karl Urban has the makings of a good Dredd I think. John Wagner was consulted regarding the movies story and has given what he has seen so far his blessing. Considering he went to the set of the Stallone film and told Danny Cannon (director) that he was making the wrong movie, I see this as a good thing.
I am cautiously optimistic about the new movie...
As for Norts, these vehicles from Ramshackle scream "For Nordland!" to me...
(http://www.ramshacklegames.co.uk/images/boring/big_boring.jpg)
If you have ever played the Rogue Trooper video game you will have seen similar vehicles in use all the time (as well as in the strip, obviously).
I am looking forward to seeing whatever you do in a 2000AD vein anyway :)
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Karl Urban has the makings of a good Dredd I think. John Wagner was consulted regarding the movies story and has given what he has seen so far his blessing. Considering he went to the set of the Stallone film and told Danny Cannon (director) that he was making the wrong movie, I see this as a good thing.
I am cautiously optimistic about the new movie...
I say, Karl Urban doesn't sound badd for Dredd, indeed! I'll have to do some research, get all overexcited and then disappointed when it is released! lol [/quote]
As for Norts, these vehicles from Ramshackle scream "For Nordland!" to me...
(http://www.ramshacklegames.co.uk/images/boring/big_boring.jpg)
If you have ever played the Rogue Trooper video game you will have seen similar vehicles in use all the time (as well as in the strip, obviously).
I am looking forward to seeing whatever you do in a 2000AD vein anyway :)
Never played the game, as I am too lazy to learn any game that isn't either an online puzzle game or whose name includes "-ization"... lol
That said, I'm more inclined to do one of the "tanks with bubble tops" or one of these insectoid vehicles (my books are with my brother right now, so I can't give you a better reference). I'd probably build something that matches the style somewhat.
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Time for some blue-skinned threadomancy! :D
I recently visited one of my favourite (F)LGS and found a batch of old Kryomek figures discounted, which I purchased to use as Genetic Infantry. They are originally Cyclos penal infantry, but look decent enough, even though their armament is a bit more varied (and supposedly heavier) than the usual issue (made possible by eschewing helmets and backpacks, apparently lol).
You may notice that they are based differently from the rest of the 2000AD project - I will most likely, due to the differences noted above, use them in more generic Scifi settings, figures for which will be based on washers. I still hope to do an overall paradigm shift to washers to increase interproject compatibility, but projects as far progressed as the 2000AD one will remain on slottas.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/GI_SQUAD_1.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/GI_SQUAD_2.jpg)
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Well, well, well, what do we have here... after almost a year I've managed to finish a new addition to the 2000AD miscellany which this thread has become.
Behold Satanus, King of the Cursed Earth!
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_Satanus_1_zps74742e58.jpg)
I bought this thing sometime back in 2010 from Modelzone with the intent of turning it into Golgotha initially, but got off that tangent once I opened the box. It's an old 1/35 Tamiya T-Rex, and the only things going for it are the facts that it was cheap and pretty much a contemporary of the "Cursed Earth" storyline. lol
Seriously, this is a rather poor kit by modern standards. If you are looking for a good Tyrannosaurus, opt for a modern toy instead. The anatomy is rather poor (although the stance is nicely "retro"), there are large and visible seams after assembly, and the head straight from the box borders on the ridiculous. I added nostrils and eyebrows using Magic Sculp after filling the seams to make him look a bit more intimidating. Not sure if it worked, but I am reasonably happy with the end result. The collar is plasticard and sprue.
In lack of some Judges or Muties for him to eat (I've got a couple of Foundry ones on the paint bench now, though, almost three years after I started painting them), here's a pic with the "small" Foundry Hammerstein for scale.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_Satanus_2_zps2c005863.jpg)
After I finish the judges (promise! :D), I'll start thinking about how to do a decent Thoth figure. The most viable option for actually using all those figures would be a "Battle through the Time Wastes" thing with various 2000AD settings clashing/cooperating to meet their objectives.
Thanks for looking!
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Love Satanus. Where's it from? A toy? Looks great anyway. :D
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I think it looks just the part, and more accurate for 2000AD than a 'better' sculpt.
Love Satanus. Where's it from? A toy? Looks great anyway. :D
I bought this thing sometime back in 2010 from Modelzone with the intent of turning it into Golgotha initially, but got off that tangent once I opened the box. It's an old 1/35 Tamiya T-Rex, and the only things going for it are the facts that it was cheap and pretty much a contemporary of the "Cursed Earth" storyline.
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I think it looks just the part, and more accurate for 2000AD than a 'better' sculpt.
There are some beautiful new interpretations of the topic, but I finished it for that exact reason - it is retro, particularly regarding the pose, campy in a way, and not anatomically correct (most of Satanus' depictions back in the day are notoriously loose in their interpretation, three fingers on each forearm being the most egregious issue). Also, the difference in scale (1/35 vs. ca. 1/50 for the Foundry 2000AD range) makes him suitably imposing.
Those "inaccurate" parts are pretty much the aspects which, to me, redeem "The Cursed Earth" and the "Nemesis" books in this day and age. I wonder if "Invasion" would have benefitted from a Volgan Dinosaur Division.
Probably not.
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I think it looks just the part, and more accurate for 2000AD than a 'better' sculpt.
Yep. The resting on tail, kangaroo pose is how all fictional t-rex looked until Jurassic Park I reckon.
Its a massive model too, which doesnt hurt its admittedly somewhat goofy appeal. Cool.
I am delighted to see this thread resurface. I will never tire of it :)
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Hi all,
it's been almost three years since I got those from Akula, but I finally managed to paint up a batch of Mega-City One law enforcement personnel. After some false starts, I opted for a scheme based on the "Origins" story arc, but kept the yellow shoulder pad to provide some contrast and reduce the "bling bling" a bit.
Dredd, the man himself - a dreddful trinity of Foundry figures.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_Dredd_zpsc6c64f65.jpg)
Judges Hershey (I think) and Giant, Foundry as well.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_HersheyGiant_zpsaee6e586.jpg)
Street Judges, from Mongoose.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_StreetJudges_zps495998e2.jpg)
Riot Judges, mainly Mongoose with a Foundry figure.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_RiotJudges_zpsb31601c4.jpg)
Tech Judges, Mongoose and Foundry:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_TechJudges_zps3d844728.jpg)
SJS Judges from Mongoose:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_SJSJudges_zps29819a1c.jpg)
And a pair of Klegg Mercs from Citadel (had those lying around for years before the Judges came, indeed, before I started the 2000AD project proper):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_KleggMercs_zpsbc9bfd0f.jpg)
Thanks for looking!
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fine stuff, Chris, well done!
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fine stuff, Chris, well done!
It most certainly is!
:-*
You have a wonderful project going on here.
JD is something I have always fancied doing myself.
Not sure that I will ever fit it in, though.
Seeing your magnificent project come to life is the best kind of substitute.
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Great stuff, cant get enough of these :) Do you plan to add the Mongoose Kleggs and the Foundry Grampus to the Citadel guys? Presumably the Citadel Kleggs are much smaller, but personally I am perfectly fine with space lizard men of variable stature.
Judges Hershey (I think)
Its Hershey all right. Mongoose/Warlord also make a Judge Decker that could easily be used as a Street Judge Hershey in addition to the newer Chief Judge Hershey that they supplied to Kickstarter folk relatively recently.
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Great stuff, cant get enough of these :) Do you plan to add the Mongoose Kleggs and the Foundry Grampus to the Citadel guys? Presumably the Citadel Kleggs are much smaller, but personally I am perfectly fine with space lizard men of variable stature.
Which is exactly my line of reasoning. I mainly painted them because I had them lying around, but once I can afford them, a couple (maybe 6-7 in total) of Klegg to form a "posse" (or pack) would be nice to have. At the moment, I am mainly painting up remainders and don't want (and cannot, frankly) spend any larger sums on the hobby, so I'll do with what I got for now. Mind you, that includes a Citadel Ape Gang which will be next, so it's not THAT terrible. :D
Its Hershey all right. Mongoose/Warlord also make a Judge Decker that could easily be used as a Street Judge Hershey in addition to the newer Chief Judge Hershey that they supplied to Kickstarter folk relatively recently.
I must admit that I'm a bit reserved when it comes to the Mongoose Dredd stuff. Looks great in the pics, but all the figures I had were rather soft in detail and sculpting style and some had casting flaws. Not so great, after all. I'll probably use Foundry for the Angel Gang, as I like those versions much better, but the Mongoose Klegg look just great, as do a lot of the other perp types.
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Really nice to see to see this progress Chris. :-*
For my sins I've got the council of judges ks to work through but also around 120 of the old citadel 2000ad minis, which thankfully a certain good Dr is working through for me.
I will put a thread up when I get chance until then I'll continue to drool.
;)
The Commander.
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Hi all, a small update!
First, some guys I had on my workbench for YEARS, the Citadel Ape Gang, consisting of Don Uggie Apelino, Fast Eek and Joe Bananas.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_Perps_Ape_Gang_zps9bb6334a.jpg)
A bit puny next to more modern figures, but rather charming. I went for a "Huey, Dewey and Louie" type colour combination to tie them together, but make each ape recognizable at first glance; first, I had intended to give them all red suits (as a bit of a "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" nod), and while it would give a nice contrast to the yellow bananas and skin/fur tones, I decided it would leave them too uniform.
Second, from a deal I struck with Cheetor, a set of East Meg One Sov Judges.
Sov Judge Officers:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_EastMegOne_Officers_zps908a3bba.jpg)
Sov Judges:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_EastMegOne_Judges_zpscd91638f.jpg)
Sentenoid:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_EastMegOne_Sentenoid_zpsa337f7cb.jpg)
Those are really nice figures, cleanly cast and, most importantly, very compatible (size-wise) with the large Foundry figures as compared to the older Mongoose Dredd stuff. I enjoyed painting them tremendously, most of all the Sentenoid which must be one of my favourite robot models ever - I opted for a scheme that would allow using them with a VolgBot/Marsokhod force (if I ever get that one off the ground). Big thanks to Cheetor at this point, I hope my part of the deal works out just as well for you.
Thanks for looking!
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Awesomness :-*
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Very nice. Love the Apes but the Sov Judges are just spectacular. :o
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Great stuff, Chris!
:-* :-*
Love that big bot, it is a great sculpt.
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Best for me are the Apes.
I have had those critters staring at me for just as long, must get around to them soon.
Love the colour choices.
Not a dirty ape amongst them.
;)
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Best for me are the Apes.
I have had those critters staring at me for just as long, must get around to them soon.
Love the colour choices.
Not a dirty ape amongst them.
;)
I guess the first one to call them "dirty apes" will end up in the Black Atlantic with his feet tied to a banana box faster than you can spell "lawgiver".
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Those are brilliant Chris, fantastic work!
Considering that I posted those from Ireland to you in Germany on the 13th and you have them finished, photographed and posted here on the 18th, that has to be the fastest and most productive miniatures trade that I have been involved in yet :)
Its great to see them painted. Carrying the judge scheme through to the sentenoid and satellat worked out really well. They Sovs have a nice comic book villain look to them.
The apes are really nice and the bright Dick Tracy sort of suits are definitely the way to go with those. That the models are a bit small doesnt make any difference in my opinions. I mean, what size is a real genetically modified ape? I dont have the model with the tommy gun (Joe Bananas?). I really must try to get my hands on that at some stage, its great.
Do you plan to add the Mongoose Ape gang and mobster to those guys? They are probably the best set of miniatures in the range.
I hope my part of the deal works out just as well for you.
I am sure that it will, although I definitely wont be able to compete on the speed of turnaround :)
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Those are brilliant Chris, fantastic work!
Considering that I posted those from Ireland to you in Germany on the 13th and you have them finished, photographed and posted here on the 18th, that has to be the fastest and most productive miniatures trade that I have been involved in yet :)
What can I say, I just felt inspired. :)
Its great to see them painted. Carrying the judge scheme through to the sentenoid and satellat worked out really well. They Sovs have a nice comic book villain look to them.
I hummed and hawed quite a bit when it came to the robots. First, after discarding the black/red scheme of the Judges, I wanted to do them in a Russian Uniform olive (the one used for the gloves and boots on the Sov Judges), then, blueish Russian green with white markings on top, before settling on the scheme you see now (German Uniform with a green filter on top plus the red accents). I consider it the right choice to deviate from the Judge uniform, but to meet a "Neo Soviet" cliché so that they'll work together.
The apes are really nice and the bright Dick Tracy sort of suits are definitely the way to go with those. That the models are a bit small doesnt make any difference in my opinions. I mean, what size is a real genetically modified ape? I dont have the model with the tommy gun (Joe Bananas?). I really must try to get my hands on that at some stage, its great.
"Joe Bananas" is the guy in the green suit with, well, bananas in every pocket. The yellow guy (on the right) was dubbed "Fast Eek". I quite like those Citadel/2000AD naming conventions, puts the much-joked-about Foundry pirates and Old West figures to shame. I don't really mind the size that much, though, as they are still quite bulky - it's similar to the issue with using Crooked Dice Minions with Gorilla heads, as it looks more like a guy in a monkey suit rather than a true ape.
Do you plan to add the Mongoose Ape gang and mobster to those guys? They are probably the best set of miniatures in the range.
Those are quite good, indeed. If I get the chance, I'll probably add a set or a couple of figures. At the moment, I'm quite happy with the various judges and the Necrowitch I still have to paint (assembled and based them this morning and will prime them once the rain stops).
I am sure that it will, although I definitely wont be able to compete on the speed of turnaround :)
Let's be confident, for this stage, that the stunty ones arrive safely at your place - although I'm looking forward to seeing them in the blacks-and-yellows.
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A small update including Chief Judge Cal, Judge Dekker and an academy instructor (all Mongoose figures).
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_Cal_zpsa562134a.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_Dekker_zps482bba06.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_AcademyInstructor_zps8e189245.jpg)
Apart from the goggle eyes on Dekker (looks less awkward on the real mini, honest, guv!) I'm not really happy with how Cal turned out - the purple/red on the coat works well, but the blond hair coupled with the slightly paler skintone than usual doesn't provide enough contrast to the shoulder pads. I'll probably repaint the skin and make him a redhead to provide for a better visual combination. Comments and suggestions welcome.
Thanks for looking!
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Its cool to see you getting through these :)
Cal is illustrated in lots of different colour schemes and even with quite differing facial features so you have a lot of scope to play around with while still remaining canonically accurate (if that sort of thing bothers you). Cals cape in particular was coloured in a number of different ways and of course its always feasible that the character owned more than one cape anyway. I dont remember the stripe down the side of his pants in the comic: did he have one or did you add that on your own?
The Dekker and Cal sculpts are quite nice, although the Tutor is a bit goofy and stiff I think. Its not going to stop me from painting my own tutor model or anything, but the standard of sculpting in the Mongoose Dredd range varies a lot. It reminds me of 80s/90s Citadel, where its really hard to tell how good or bad the next figure will be: the sublime and the ridiculous side by side. Like a 2000AD prog really.
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Great stuff, Chris!
:-*
You have gotten me looking at my bits box and trawling ebay looking at Dredd stuff because of this thread.
Looks like I am steering dangerously close to another tangent.... ::)
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Its cool to see you getting through these :)
Cal is illustrated in lots of different colour schemes and even with quite differing facial features so you have a lot of scope to play around with while still remaining canonically accurate (if that sort of thing bothers you). Cals cape in particular was coloured in a number of different ways and of course its always feasible that the character owned more than one cape anyway. I dont remember the stripe down the side of his pants in the comic: did he have one or did you add that on your own?
The stripe is an addition of mine. I had originally intended to do the cape in some "Imperial Purple" with gold rim and possibly an imprint of "FIAT IUSTITIA ET PEREAT MUNDUS" (as a less-than-subtle pickup on the "Mad Emperor" angle), but the purple colour didn't work at all next to the golden yellow shoulder pads and the black jumpsuit in particular. So I went through various coats of red on the cape and left off the edging. To add a bit of colour as a "framing device" and mark him out as a bit different from the street judges, I added the red stripe (taken from Wehrmacht general staff officers). Furthermore, if covers up the heavy mould lining in that area. I may still go for the lettering, but am unsure as it will be hard to see and even harder to get to look right.
The Dekker and Cal sculpts are quite nice, although the Tutor is a bit goofy and stiff I think. Its not going to stop me from painting my own tutor model or anything, but the standard of sculpting in the Mongoose Dredd range varies a lot. It reminds me of 80s/90s Citadel, where its really hard to tell how good or bad the next figure will be: the sublime and the ridiculous side by side. Like a 2000AD prog really.
lol I actually like the instructor quite a bit, although I agree the crispness of the sculpt and casting quality are more responsible for that than a dynamic pose.
The Cal figure was poorly cast (not your fault, obviously), and I had to do some hefty scraping and sanding to get him to a workable level. Around the head and right arm in particular, there was a lot of flash to the extent of some mould mismatch (although the cape and boots were less pronounced). Overall, I think it is a different and less overtly funny pose than the Foundry one (it took me ages to recognize that he was holding Judge Fish aloft), and works quite well for his deranged persona. Amusingly, his right index finger is massive enough to cover up for Dekker's left index finger which was not fully formed! lol
Channeling Digby Von Klausewitz there, I guess. :D
I consider these "new" figures to be much better than the older Mongoose stuff, particularly in terms of sculpt crispness and size which makes them much more compatible with Foundry. I'm still pondering how to paint the Necrowitch, though, which is in a leather basecoat so far - not quite sure to go for a more "Cursed Earth Couture" look (leaning towards that) or some Mega-City evil garishness.
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Levitating sci-fi psychic futuristic zombie mistresses can wear whatever they want to of course, but that model suggests the catwalks of the Cursed Earth to me.
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Hello, nice painting through out the thread. A comprhensive collection you have going on.
Could you tell me what the quality of the cast was like of the Judge Dekker fig? I boiught one and my copy is really soft, lacking detail, especially around the face.
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Hello, nice painting through out the thread. A comprhensive collection you have going on.
Could you tell me what the quality of the cast was like of the Judge Dekker fig? I boiught one and my copy is really soft, lacking detail, especially around the face.
Mine was overall quite crisp and well-cast, with the marked exception of the left index finger, which was not fully formed. The facial details and hair were quite alright, the former being a bit softer than on "male" figures, which I find acceptable. Very little flash as compared to the "Cal" figure. Neither of the figures above were as good as the Sov Judges shown earlier, which required almost no cleanup.
It makes it sound like the figure quality is a bit hit-and-miss, and I am suspecting quality control is not a top priority with Mongoose. These are figures from the Kickstarter, if I am not mistaken (got them from Cheetor in a swap), and the casting quality and sculpt on all was much better than on some older figs (Riot, SJS and Street Judges) which I got back in 2010.
I hope that the casting quality gets more reliable now that Warlord will be taking over the range, but judging from their German Paras which I bought a box of last year, I am not 100% confident.
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These are figures from the Kickstarter, if I am not mistaken...
The Sovs were from the KS shipments. Dekker and Cal may have been the ones that I bought before the KS or the ones that I got from the KS, I dont know for sure which ones you got Chris.
According to Kickstarter updates, Mongoose have since closed their US manufacturing facility. IIRC there was a mention of slipping standards, but dont quote me. I guess that Mongoose are going to outsource all miniature manufacturing sooner rather than later, but I dont know that of course, Im just speculating. I am guessing that when the Rogue Trooper stuff starts to appear that all manufacturing will be handled by Warlord, although yet again thats just speculation.
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Hi all,
a very minor update in the shape of Spike, Blackblood's cyborg pooch from the "Hellbringer" arc. Not exactly a fleshed-out character in his own right (rather one-dimensional and never seen thereafter), I nevertheless liked the screwy design.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC_SPIKE_zps19a8a8d5.jpg)
Of course, this means I'll have to eventually do a Blackblood variant in a red greatcoat and cap. :D
The model is based on a Reaper dog. A bit big and not exactly the correct breed, but close enough in his bulldoggy way.
Thanks for looking! A couple of Judges to fill out the ranks of the Justice Department are next.
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Oh, that is a lovely dog :) Nicely painted, Chris.
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Very nice work!
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Hi all,
a handful of miniatures, part of which I painted recently, some this week.
Mad Ronn, bomb sniffer bot and comrade of Hammerstein:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC_MAD_RONN_zps0875b5e3.jpg)
Three Allied robo-recruits:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/ABC_ROBORECRUITS_zps3a654ba8.jpg)
Some more Dredd stuff:
Two variants of Dredd from the Mongoose range:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_Dredd_Mongoose_zps774565c5.jpg)
Two more SJS judges from Mongoose and a Citadel SJS judge to bolster Chief Judge Cal's forces, in a group shot:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_Cal_and_Goons_zps88713e0e.jpg)
And a bunch of unruly service robots, originally from Citadel's short-lived Paranoia range:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_Perps_Unruly_Robots_zps9a99fdeb.jpg)
Thanks for looking! I may get around to building some Mega-City structures next, but don't hold your breath.
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Really lovely! You have a great painting style!
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Superb Chris.
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Cracking work Chris!! :o :o
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:o
That is an update and a half!
Some gorgeous paintwork gracing some nice sculpts.
:-* :-*
Great use of the old Paranoia bots, very clever.
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(Not sure about the pose on one of those Dredd's, though. He looks like he is imitating Gene Kelly in Singing in the Rain!)
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:o
That is an update and a half!
Some gorgeous paintwork gracing some nice sculpts.
:-* :-*
Thanks (to all) for the nice comments!
Great use of the old Paranoia bots, very clever.
8)
They are quite cute, if tiny. Not really an issue for the cleanerbot, medibot and sentrybot, but the blue guy is a mystery to me. It looks a bit like Danny deVito working as a bouncer next to the more modern figures.
I'm currently digging out any old robot that could work, style-wise for a 2000AD setting. Not sure if I really need Call-Me-Kenneth and the Heavy Metal Kids, as those are a bit awkward for my taste, but a Robot Rebellion (TM) could only benefit from variety. That said, I'd still like to do the Robot Legion of the Damned led by General Blood'n'Nuts. Except for the APGs. Jeez, what did they smoke on that installment.
I also got a blister and a half's worth of Troubleshooters which I'll use for perps.
(Not sure about the pose on one of those Dredd's, though. He looks like he is imitating Gene Kelly in Singing in the Rain!)
That's Mongoose for you! IMHO, these two aren't among the best sculpts. Cal and the Instructor are better, and the Sov Judges considerably so.
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I love this thread!!
So many happy boyhood memories of 2000AD :D
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love the robot recruits!
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Wish I kept my paranoia robots, cant think what possessed me to sell em. Oh well.
Lovely work as ever Chris.
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Wow amazing stuff!
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Thats a fantastic update, great work. Mad Ron is very recognisable but the Paranoia 'bots steal the show. What is Rons head made out of?
Before they closed down Mega Miniatures had a range of cheap, small-ish robots in humanoid and non-humanoid configurations, both armed and unarmed. They are worth tracking down as MC1 style service bots. A number of them were quite cute. I regret not picking up the Mongoose Paranoia robots a few years back as they would also have been ideal.
I got some of the Citadel MC1 robots on Ebay last year. They are also tiny but perfect as rebellious household robots (rather than military surplus or security or demolition or whatever).
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Thats a fantastic update, great work. Mad Ron is very recognisable but the Paranoia 'bots steal the show. What is Rons head made out of?
It's a Quar head with helmet - obviously, the shape is a bit off, but close enough. The shotgun barrels are also a Quar accessory, wire cutters IIRC.
Before they closed down Mega Miniatures had a range of cheap, small-ish robots in humanoid and non-humanoid configurations, both armed and unarmed. They are worth tracking down as MC1 style service bots. A number of them were quite cute. I regret not picking up the Mongoose Paranoia robots a few years back as they would also have been ideal.
I got some of the Citadel MC1 robots on Ebay last year. They are also tiny but perfect as rebellious household robots (rather than military surplus or security or demolition or whatever).
Yes, I'd seen the MegaMinis bots, which would be perfect in style. Couldn't really justify the purchase at the time, though, what with limited resources and all, and now it may well be too late. I only bought the Paranoia figures because they were so cheap at a recent local "hobby boot sale" (1.25€ per figure in damaged blisters), and the SJS judge came to 2€.
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Lovely Lovely stuff, Mad Ronn is great
Not sure if I really need Call-Me-Kenneth and the Heavy Metal Kids, as those are a bit awkward for my taste,
WHAT!!
Wash your mouth out!
I demand you make CMK and the Kids!
I used Lego to recreate the Rebellion when it was first published. Lego Bots V plasticine Judges
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Lovely Lovely stuff, Mad Ronn is great
Thanks!
Not sure if I really need Call-Me-Kenneth and the Heavy Metal Kids, as those are a bit awkward for my taste,
WHAT!!
Wash your mouth out!
I demand you make CMK and the Kids!
I used Lego to recreate the Rebellion when it was first published. Lego Bots V plasticine Judges
lol
Ah, ye gooden olden dayes.
I'll have to adjust my original verdict on that - I gave myself the E-book versions of the Complete Case Files 1 and 5 as a birthday present and am halfway trough #1. The robot rebellion is much better than the isolated snippets led me to suspect at first, and while I'll probably do some more East-Meg One stuff first, the robot characters (especially those robot overseers, whose whips weren't the only thing on acid in those days, apparently lol), have moved up considerably on my list.
Also, comic book dealers. lol
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I've just spent a good half hour going through this thread, and when I say good, I mean well worth the time! The big green tank/robot has to be my fav, but that's an amazing amount of work! Well done sir!!
Just one question....have you actually managed a game with them so far? I don't remember seeing anything! :(
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Just one question....have you actually managed a game with them so far? I don't remember seeing anything! :(
Aaaand... that is the shameful part. lol No games since I started out with it, partly due to the difficulty of getting non-Brits (and Germans in particular) interested in 2000AD stuff and the fact that I didn't yet manage to build some proper terrain.
On the other hand, I recently helped my brother build an urban board for 40k games, and we plan to use the Showdown rules for some Judge Dredd games. I originally wanted to do a Cursed Earth setting, as the terrain would be more generic and therefore more usable for other settings, but I've been revisiting the Making of Judge Dredd book by boxtree, and am considering doing some Mega City One pieces for a bit of block war now. Maybe a mix of both, or I'll go back to doing the "crossover approach" that pits characters from various 2000AD series in a royal rumble across the time wastes, but that will be an even tougher sell.
Really, it's hard to believe how unpopular 2000AD in general, and JD in particular, is over here.
At the moment, though, I'm contenting myself with just modelling and painting and building up the forces. Not too bad, as I'm more inclined to that part and can live without gaming if need be.
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Sometimes mate its just worth doing something for the love ;)
cheers
James
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Before they closed down Mega Miniatures had a range of cheap, small-ish robots in humanoid and non-humanoid configurations, both armed and unarmed. They are worth tracking down as MC1 style service bots. A number of them were quite cute. I regret not picking up the Mongoose Paranoia robots a few years back as they would also have been ideal.
Mega Miniatures is still open (for five more days), and they have the following, as well as a bunch of others:
(http://freeboardgamesnow.com/images/products/detail/C001.jpg)
(http://freeboardgamesnow.com/images/products/detail/DEAL1098.1.jpg)
(http://freeboardgamesnow.com/images/products/detail/DEAL1099.JPG)
(http://freeboardgamesnow.com/images/products/detail/MEM55010.jpg)
(http://freeboardgamesnow.com/images/products/thumb/DEAL0362.jpg)
(http://freeboardgamesnow.com/images/products/thumb/DEAL0364.jpg)
(http://freeboardgamesnow.com/images/products/thumb/DEAL0360.jpg)
You can get them at http://freeboardgamesnow.com/
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I don't know if its any help, some guys over at the Crooked Dice forum came up with some rules based around the 7TV game. It kinda favours small skirmish style gaming where the characters have skills and stuff. Maybe worth a look?
http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1360010010/s-0/ (http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1360010010/s-0/)
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Hi all,
a bit of an update!
I recently went on a trip to Berlin for job interviews coupled with a weekend holiday and found a couple of Mongoose minis to round out some factions.
Two Kleggs and a Klegghound (sounds like a sitcom title):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_KleggMercs_2_zpse97600f3.jpg)
And a bunch of outright rebellious robots:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_Perps_Rebellious_Robots_zpsf80da7c4.jpg)
Bit of indulgence, really. Still, after reading up until ca. 1984 in the Dredd collections, I could kick myself for not exploring the Dredd branch of the 2000AD universe earlier - much wittier and funnier than ABC Warriors, and such grandiose art. I've started work on some refinery pieces from an old Hexagon/Platformer/Chemical Plant kit I had lying around for half a decade and dug out some raw material to do some proper MC-1 terrain. Hopefully, some in-action shots will follow soon!
Regarding the minis - not much to be said on the robots, quite well-done in sculpt and production, and fun to paint - although except from the demolition bot, they aren't quite as retro in design as I would have preferred. The Kleggs are quite nice, too. I'm still baffled by the pose of the cleaver-wielding crocman - looks OK from the front, but downright weird from the rear. Double the size of the Citadel Kleggs - but even alien mercs need some juves, I guess. Even the Klegghound is taller than the Citadel figures. Times, they are a-changin'.
Thanks for looking!
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Lovely additions to the collection, Chris.
:-*
I know what you mean about that 'wonky' Klegg.
That cleaver arm just looks so wrong.
I feel a little conversion work could be called for on that one.
;)
I am glad that you have mentioned their height in comparison to the Citadel offerings as I have never seen the Mongoose versions and was not aware that they were so much bigger.
Not that that will stop me getting some eventually*...like you said: Juves!
:D
*I want to use them as an alien 'gang' for Inquisimunda.
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Lovely additions to the collection, Chris.
:-*
I know what you mean about that 'wonky' Klegg.
That cleaver arm just looks so wrong.
I feel a little conversion work could be called for on that one.
;)
Yeeesss... but I am getting a wee bit lazy in my old age. lol
I am glad that you have mentioned their height in comparison to the Citadel offerings as I have never seen the Mongoose versions and was not aware that they were so much bigger.
Not that that will stop me getting some eventually*...like you said: Juves!
:D
*I want to use them as an alien 'gang' for Inquisimunda.
Maybe I need to clarify that. In pure height, it's more like 1.5 times the height of the Citadel figures as illustrated here:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/2000AD%20WIPs/KLEGGSIZES_zpsde23a4e2.jpg)
I wasn't too clear in using "size" as I had the overall bulk and dimensions in mind. It is noticeably larger, though, and the heads are different in style, but I think they could work together. That said, despite the deplorable lack of poses, I think the Mongoose models are the better choice in that case, especially considering the scarcity of the old Kleggs and their price, I assume.
If you want imposing, go for the Mongoose figs. Those are very much like those in the comics when it comes to "threatening".
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Thanks for the tips and comparison, Chris, much appreciated.
Luckily I already have the Citadel versions so that is not really an issue.
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Slicey slicey oncey twicey
Claw and fang'll kill Dredd nicely....
Grand show 8) 8) 8)
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Hi all,
I had an unsually productive week and finished a couple of additions.
First, Judge Minty from the previous Frothers Charity Thing. Found that one on the Ainsty stall at Crisis (later realised it may have been Dags who sold it to me, but it didn't click right then). Lovely figure, superb sculpting and fine cast. I based it to go with the rest of my Dredd stuff and will use the scenic base as a marker of sorts.
I put a bit more effort into this one (with multiple highlights on all colour areas, especially the face) and I think it turned out quite nicely.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_Minty_zpse47288e2.jpg)
Next, three Wardroids from Robert L. Booth's "Legion of the Damned" (mainly based on the Mills/Brashill story). Excalibur Minis from 1998, and the moulds show their age now; but anything for variant Hammersteins.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_Perps_Booths_Wardroids_zpse21854c3.jpg)
Moving on, three little service drones (Ainsty Castings) who wonder how the drokk they got into this setting. Somebody must have misprogrammed their punchcards, I assume. Maybe they'll find work tending to Block parks or as Block physicians.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_ServiceDrones_zpse7094924.jpg)
Next, a Mongoose Mechanismo Mk1 which I got from Cheetor. Interesting figure, although a bit stiffly-posed in the Mongoose way. Fun to paint, though, especially when trying to figure out how to best paint black metallics.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_JusticeDep_MechanismoMk1_zps4c8bd645.jpg)
And finally, a Volgan Killbot which I actually painted a couple of weeks ago (in October) but forgot to photograph until now, somehow. This is originally a Warzone Cybertronic "Chemiman" which I found by accident in one of my mini storage boxes.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/VOLGANS_KILLBOT_zps44702380.jpg)
Thanks for looking! I've also done a couple of terrain pieces and game boards which I hope to take pics of during the week, although those may end up in a separate thread as they are not exclusively for 2000AD.
Cheers!
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Hot damn those are lovely. You Minty is really fantastic. I got one of him from Cheetor a while back and still haven't painted the thing. That may change this week. I feel inspired by your work. It doesn't hurt that I just read a couple issues of Judge Dredd.
(I know they're 'progs' in the UK, but these were the Eagle reprints from the US, so I'm using the term issues. I have lots of issues. Just ask my wife.)
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It doesn't hurt that I just read a couple issues of Judge Dredd.
(I know they're 'progs' in the UK, but these were the Eagle reprints from the US, so I'm using the term issues. I have lots of issues. Just ask my wife.)
Personally, I always considered the "Prog" terminology rather dated and laboured, and not in a charming, "zeerusty" way - very much like I think that "youth lingo" never works beyond the decade a book was written (Clockwork Orange, I'm looking at you). Obviously, as someone pointed out on a blog, "Dredd was written for 11-year old British boys and not for aging comic book fans" (slightly paraphrased).
That said, I am absolutely positively surprised how good Dredd actually can be. My previous experience was the Stallone movie first, then some of the 1990s comics (sans Bisley, which may be a reason I didn't take to those), and I didn't get into the 1970s and 1980s stories until ca. 2010. Then I recently got the PDF collections and by Drokk, those are good. Especially if you got a Wagner/Smith or Wagner/Bolland team-up.
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I was fortunate enough to have a buddy who read Judge Dredd back in the early 80's. I started picking up the Titan collections from my favorite comic book store in my early teens. (Showing my age here.) I always think of Brain Bolland's art when I think of Dredd. Other artists have done a fine job on the character, but no one does a better Judge Dredd then Bolland.
Then again I might be biased. He is my favorite artist. Has been since Camalot 3000.
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Lovely additions to the project, Chris.
:-*
I really like the way that you are repurposing non-Dredd stuff for this, especially when you go 'finding' cool stuff like that Volgan Kill-Bot in your leadpile.
Kudos!
8) 8)
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Yet more cool stuff. Minty is particularly nice, but I love the Kleggs. I have two of the not Hammersteins that t I got somewhere (I painted Bil and Ben on them as a reference to an image in Khronicles of Khaos, itself a reference to childrens TV) but I havent seen the guy with the huge cannon before. He looks very cool, but the weapon really should have "genocide -->" written on the barrel ;)
I wasn't too clear in using "size" as I had the overall bulk and dimensions in mind. It is noticeably larger, though, and the heads are different in style, but I think they could work together. That said, despite the deplorable lack of poses, I think the Mongoose models are the better choice in that case, especially considering the scarcity of the old Kleggs and their price, I assume.
If you want imposing, go for the Mongoose figs. Those are very much like those in the comics when it comes to "threatening".
Do you have the Grampus model that Foundry made? Its one of the better Foundry 2000AD figures and he really is huge - a little like how big the first Foundry Hammerstein is - he dwarfs the Mongoose figures. I picked up two of the Citadel Kleggs recently and I find that there is something satisfyingly comic-book-y about the huge size disparity in the three ranges. I find it oddly endearing. The Kleggs vary in size from issue to issue in the Cal stories anyway: they come in all sizes.
I never worked out what those things that look like rockets on their backs are though.
Personally, I always considered the "Prog" terminology rather dated and laboured, and not in a charming, "zeerusty" way - very much like I think that "youth lingo" never works beyond the decade a book was written (Clockwork Orange, I'm looking at you)
The Drokk/Stomm/Dok/Jovis/Grud stuff in the Dredd strips have been rather self consciously re-embraced over the last ten or fifteen years or so. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. I still enjoy the ridiculous nonsense that Tharg spouts though, the "Splundig Vur Thrigg", "Quaquam blag", "Grexnix" stuff. I assume that it was a sort of reaction to the "Excelsior", Marvel Bullpen Stan Lee stuff in Marvel books, but with a vaguely Black Adder feel to it. A "Krill Tro Thargo" beats a "No prize" any day ;)
Especially if you got a Wagner/Smith or Wagner/Bolland team-up.
Wagner Bolland is the fan fave I think, but the strips that most immersed me in Mega City 1 as a kid were drawn by Ron Smith. Definitely my personal favourite.
Have you ever read the Daily Star Dredd reprint stories? Nearly all Ron Smith artwork and daft future crime stories crammed into half a page. Pure condensed Dredd.
A bit of a waffle there, sorry. A fifteen page thread on 2000AD miniatures will do that to a fella though.
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Yet more cool stuff. Minty is particularly nice, but I love the Kleggs. I have two of the not Hammersteins that t I got somewhere (I painted Bil and Ben on them as a reference to an image in Khronicles of Khaos, itself a reference to childrens TV) but I havent seen the guy with the huge cannon before. He looks very cool, but the weapon really should have "genocide -->" written on the barrel ;)
Har har! :D Nice idea. I've got the tax collector and the bots somewhere on my list, although I am leaning more towards using medium-sized Warjacks from Warmachine for Bil and Ben (haven't found a suitable one yet, though). Excalibur's website is still online (Linky to the "Droids" section (http://www.excalibur-miniatures.com/shop/index.php?cPath=6_34)), although I must say that they are quite pricey nowadays considering the age and the increasingly spotty mould quality. Also, you may want to check with them before ordering as they recently seem to have undergone some reorganisation and were at Crisis under a different company name ("Kontor 13").
Do you have the Grampus model that Foundry made? Its one of the better Foundry 2000AD figures and he really is huge - a little like how big the first Foundry Hammerstein is - he dwarfs the Mongoose figures. I picked up two of the Citadel Kleggs recently and I find that there is something satisfyingly comic-book-y about the huge size disparity in the three ranges. I find it oddly endearing. The Kleggs vary in size from issue to issue in the Cal stories anyway: they come in all sizes.
Yup, now that they are painted I am quite happy with them. I haven't got the Grampus figure, although I want to get it at some point, and I have seen a comparison pic somewhere - huge indeed.
I never worked out what those things that look like rockets on their backs are though.
I thought they were indeed some kind of retro-burners, considering the manner of their entrance ("BEHOLD... THE HORDES OF KLEGG!") in the comic.
The Drokk/Stomm/Dok/Jovis/Grud stuff in the Dredd strips have been rather self consciously re-embraced over the last ten or fifteen years or so. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. I still enjoy the ridiculous nonsense that Tharg spouts though, the "Splundig Vur Thrigg", "Quaquam blag", "Grexnix" stuff. I assume that it was a sort of reaction to the "Excelsior", Marvel Bullpen Stan Lee stuff in Marvel books, but with a vaguely Black Adder feel to it. A "Krill Tro Thargo" beats a "No prize" any day ;)
I guess it depends on who does the writing and how much restraint they display. More of an "occasional expletive" to break up the "Captain Exposition" parts, and for that it is eminently suitable (although "Madre Grud" sounds a tad bit awkward).
Wagner Bolland is the fan fave I think, but the strips that most immersed me in Mega City 1 as a kid were drawn by Ron Smith. Definitely my personal favourite.
Love the Smith stuff. Incredibly detailed at times, and those over-the-top poses and facial expressions crack me up - Bolland has an exquisite style for people, machines and scenery, but his faces are a bit less lively IMHO. And don't get me started on "Citizen Snork". After the second part, I was in stitches.
Have you ever read the Daily Star Dredd reprint stories? Nearly all Ron Smith artwork and daft future crime stories crammed into half a page. Pure condensed Dredd.
I'm afraid not - although if the "Somewhere in Mega-City One, a council of criminals is plotting the perfect crime" stories are anything to go by, it sounds like a lot of fun.
A bit of a waffle there, sorry. A fifteen page thread on 2000AD miniatures will do that to a fella though.
Honestly, as long as we stay on topic, I think a bit of nostalgic waffle may be allowed. With a side of selective retention syrup, please. :)
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This may be an odd recommendation for a visual medium like comic books and miniatures. If you can find the Big Finish full cast dramatizations of Judge Dredd, they're great. It's amazing to hear someone use "drokk" or "for Grud's sake" out load and it works. The voice of Dredd is fantastic.
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Har har! :D Nice idea. I've got the tax collector and the bots somewhere on my list, although I am leaning more towards using medium-sized Warjacks from Warmachine for Bil and Ben
Makes sense. The tax collector looks like he is lifted straight from the Administratum section of a 40k rulebook.
I thought they were indeed some kind of retro-burners, considering the manner of their entrance ("BEHOLD... THE HORDES OF KLEGG!") in the comic.
That must be it (its been a while since I read The Day The Law Died). Destined to wear retro rockets forever due to their first appearance, like the kid in the Transformers cartoon who wore a hard hat for three seasons because he first met the Autobots on an oil rig.
Love the Smith stuff. Incredibly detailed at times, and those over-the-top poses and facial expressions crack me up - Bolland has an exquisite style for people, machines and scenery, but his faces are a bit less lively IMHO. And don't get me started on "Citizen Snork". After the second part, I was in stitches.
I scanned a Smith Daily Star strip to go with my post about my painted "JImp" a couple of years ago. Its a reasonably representative example, with cheesy humour, OTT facial expressions and what I regard as the definitive Judge uniform and equipment style (in some respects more than Mike McMahon, Colin MacNeil) and Brian Bollands versions). The strip is here (http://sho3box.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/jimps.jpg).
Maybe those strips wont be your cup of tea, but I think that the slices of Mega City life that they contain are definitive in many respects.
...Big Finish full cast dramatizations of Judge Dredd...
I have almost bought those a number of times, but always baulked at the last minute. Simon Pegg voiced Johnny Alpha in the Strontium Dog versions I think.
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Makes sense. The tax collector looks like he is lifted straight from the Administratum section of a 40k rulebook.
Yup, and the carapaces of the bots look straight off a plastic warlord titan from Space Marine.
I scanned a Smith Daily Star strip to go with my post about my painted "JImp" a couple of years ago. Its a reasonably representative example, with cheesy humour, OTT facial expressions and what I regard as the definitive Judge uniform and equipment style (in some respects more than Mike McMahon, Colin MacNeil) and Brian Bollands versions). The strip is here (http://sho3box.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/jimps.jpg).
Maybe those strips wont be your cup of tea, but I think that the slices of Mega City life that they contain are definitive in many respects.
Groan. lol Maybe those are hampered by the newspaper format - I'd suspect it is hard to do Dredd as a one-pager. That said, TCCF#6 contains a six-page story that expands on the Jimps concept (within the setting of the "Mega City Top Criminals") and is quite an outrageous gag reel of mishaps and mayhem.
...Big Finish full cast dramatizations of Judge Dredd...
I have almost bought those a number of times, but always baulked at the last minute. Simon Pegg voiced Johnny Alpha in the Strontium Dog versions I think.
That sounds quite nice, must take a look if you can purchase them outside of the UK.
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Another week, another update. Some minis, some terrain this time.
First, a squad of Vicky Pollard Block's Citi-Def (Mongoose, all). Good casting on these, decent enough sculpts for my tastes. Don't quite know what came over me with the pink-and-lime uniforms, but it was actually fun to paint.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_Perps_VPB_Citi-Def_zps159b3269.jpg)
Second, a lazy-ass attempt at an H-Wagon to act as a terrain piece for Rescue type scenarios, or for airfield/landing pad assaults.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_Hardware_H-Wagon_Interceptor_zps97e09438.jpg)
The model is still a bit too recognizable (a Jedi starfighter from a local model store's clearance bin), although I do like how it came out a bit "stealth-fighterish". One of those H-Wagons circling the city during Block Wars to provide surveillance, or trying to intercept East-Meg nukes. I've actually done a second attempt using an SW Landspeeder (also from the cheapo bin) as a base for a more pudgy one, but that one suffered several painting accidents (primer reacting with the factory paint job, coats pitting, varnish silvering) and may have to completely redo it before it is halfway presentable. Should teach me to try an easy route rather than building the damn thing from scratch.
Anyway, some prettier things in the shape of terrain. More or less generic scifi stuff, and its primary uses will be cyberpunk and Judge Dredd, hence the preview here; I'll do some more shots once I get more pieces assembled and have the opportunity to photograph a proper layout in daylight.
A sample baseboard:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Miscellaneous%20SciFi/SCIFI_CITY_TERRAIN_BASEBOARD_zps5d05bb44.jpg)
I've got two of these finished and material for two more. Size is 20x20 inches (50x50cm) as the material (Grey PVC hardfoam) only comes in metric sheets 50cm wide (and 3mm thick). It is rather resilient, although scratch-prone, which is not too bad for a concrete surface which I wanted to represent.
The surface is scribed into a 4x4" grid using a steel awl, with some slabs getting cracks; the whole thing is painted using a foam paint roller and various shades of thick acrylic paint (anthracite, medium gray) plus some washes on top.
Eventually, I want to do 1.5 square metres (6 modules) and am considering to have some with recessed road surfaces; unfortunately, this would double the already considerable cost (a square metre costs about 25 Euros) for a second, black panel to be mounted beneath the grey layer. Will have to think hard about it, but the material is superior in many ways to MDF, so at the moment, it is well worth the expense. Still, an overall concrete surface matches my impression of Mega-City one, with the roads being elevated (see below) in this part of town.
Next, some refinery pieces from a Technolog Oil Refinery kit I had lying around for half a decade. An awful lot of work, but pleasantly cartoonish; the immediate inspiration was the Mega City One oil depot from the finale of the Robot Rebellion story line, which will obviously require many more pieces to look convincing.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Miscellaneous%20SciFi/SCIFI_CITY_TERRAIN_REFINERY_zps1bf59b7f.jpg)
Finally, an elevated road. This also features 3mm PVC as the road surface, with sides and bottoms made from 6mm XPS polystyrene foam. I've so far constructed two sections of 5x20", with three XPS support pillars which are separate and hold both a single or two sections steady without slippage. This may work as a central board-divider (and I will add some extra modules to allow for use on imperial-sized boards (i.e. 48" wide), maybe also a turn once I figure out how to best create the curve.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Miscellaneous%20SciFi/SCIFI_CITY_TERRAIN_OVERPASS_zpsd4e107ac.jpg)
That's it for today! I'm finalising my building concept ideas at the moment and may get to build a prototype next week. The main issue right now is how to best convey a "vertical" impression while keeping the playing area accessible and the items compact enough to facilitate storage.
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What an update!
:o
Whilst the VP gang look lovely (great colour combo) the scenery is stealing the show,
Those raised roads are perfect and just scream MC-1 to me.
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Great stuff, Chris.
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Even if it doesn't look like an H-wagon it still looks cool. Very stealth fighter.
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Cracking stuff Chris, love the direction the terrain is taking :-* 8)
If you're looking for building height there are my Akira flats, and although they aren't officially released yet if you fancy one send me a pm :)
cheers
James
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Cracking stuff Chris, love the direction the terrain is taking :-* 8)
If you're looking for building height there are my Akira flats, and although they aren't officially released yet if you fancy one send me a pm :)
James, very kind of you. I didn't want to be a bother, what with all your busy going-ons at the moment, but those really look the part, and it is actually very close in height what I was looking into. I'll get back to you on that once I do the "Hondotown" district of MC-1. :D
At the moment, I am leaning towards the scenery sets built for the 1995 Dredd movie. I'll put up another post later today with my concept sketches and talk about the design idea. Could be a good idea to hear if it is actually bull before I commit to the building part.
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I must admit, I really liked the '95 version of MC 1. Kept the comic book feel but could be a nightmare for gaming :?
cheers
James
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I must admit, I really liked the '95 version of MC 1. Kept the comic book feel but could be a nightmare for gaming :?
Exactly. Back when I was still living in Hull (yadda yadda 1st-hand experience of derelict/block war/juve perps to get it out of the way ;)), I went to a comic book fair and found the Boxtree "Making Of" book of that movie for a pittance, and there was quite a bunch of very useful info in there.
The main point that got me thinking was that they built the set for the Block War on the Shepperton backlot to a height of ca. 6 metres (18-20ft, judging from the photos) and used CGI (and some matte art, it appears) to "extend" the buildings beyond that. So I thought, one could build the bottom part of the buildings and "imagine" they extend beyond their actual height; in addition, one could prepare "shallow" (ie only 2-3 inches deep) sight-blocker facades to be placed at one side of the table to give the impression of a large block-type building.
Also, I decided to eliminate some of the obstructions found in the movie sets (e.g. traversing tubes, girders and stuff) and only build a couple as separate pieces which one could remove to facilitate figure movements.
The table plan is something like this:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Miscellaneous%20SciFi/SCIFI_CITY_LAYOUT_CONCEPTS_zps3619662e.jpg)
The left design follows the more "traditional" approach with separate buildings scattered around the table, which is 40x40"; building areas are to scale, so most buildings would be mounted on an 8x8" base (which would also facilitate cross-usability with a 40k Cityfight table my brother built recently (designs, materials and construction advice by yours truly)). This gives a rather crowded layout, but the disjointed placement is IMHO not truly evocative of MC-1.
The right design follows the Shepperton Lot idea by forcing the centre of the table into an "alleyway" shape by placing the elevated road to the north end, acting as a visual border (but not for movement, since figures can move beneath the roads without issue); beyond the road, a Block facade of some 10cm depth has been placed. The south end is made up by similarly-sized buildings, leaving a larger surface area in the centre which could be further reduced by scatter terrain. Also, some elevated walkways may connect individual buildings, pending a satisfactorily stable assembly method.
As for building designs, I envision something like this - more 1970s and 1980s in design, not too futuristic but Scifi enough to work for MC-1 in a convincing way.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Miscellaneous%20SciFi/SCIFI_CITY_BUILDING_1_zps12c452f6.jpg)
The general idea, if using the "Shepperton" approach, would be to leave back walls removable to allow access to the buildings; also, one could construct an 8x8" area building in two sections of 4x8" which could then be either used as table edge facades or as a joint building placed free-standing on the table.
Finally, some design ideas. Common features are numerous balconies to replace the table surface lost by the buildings' footprints, coupled with strong vertical elements to convey the height aspect.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Miscellaneous%20SciFi/SCIFI_CITY_BUILDINGS_zpsbb233918.jpg)
The main problem will be getting a working compromise between large structures, accessibility and maintaining enough playing surface to allow for medium-size skirmish games (20-30 figures per side, eventually).
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Thats a great update :)
The H wagon is recognisable I think, although a more heavily striped look would make it more so I reckon. Although Im not really a fan if the striped giant flying shampoo bottle Ezquerra H wagon design, it is definitive.
The raised road is perfect. No convincing tabletop MC1 is complete without some of those.
I really like the signage in the 95 movie and the Boxtree Making Of book is full of them.
I eagerly await more scenic updates. I cant get enough MC1 terrain :)
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That's a good breakdown Chris and I prefer the right hand plan as there is definitely more interest there and doesn't look like your standard board.
Short reply as I'm on my phone so I'll give a better one tonight when back from work :?
cheers
James
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I love the elevated roadway. It's just like the one I never got around to. Your ground surface is very nice. Maybe a little too clean for the Big Meg, but what do I know. I absolutely love the building designs you have planned. I would suggest you to either have mostly large buildings, or a very few. I noticed that the large buildings look a little toy-like unless there's a line of them sitting next to each other.
The Citi-Def figures look terrific too. Something tells me that group has to call in the Riot Judges a lot. Absolutely no respect from the tenants.
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Late to the party.
OMFG!! Just fantastic.
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Thanks, all! I had actually painted a couple of new figs in early March, but forgot to upload the pics until now.
Foundry Judge Grampus with Mongoose and Citadel Kleggs for scale:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_KleggChiefGrampus_zps72496549.jpg)
Foundry Mean Machine Angel:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/JudgeDredd_Perps_MeanMachine_zps6f6ff22e.jpg)
And the variant Foundry Johnny Alpha sculpt painted in a different style from my original set:
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/STRONTIUMDOG_3_zps7ddfd68c.jpg)
As for plans, most of my projects are currently on hiatus due to the upcoming move (and me having a one-hour commute every day until then). Nonetheless, I intend to return to 2000AD sometime this summer, with a focus on terrain and probably the rest of the Strontium Dog part of the Foundry range - I recently got myself the second SD files collection, and that British Mutant Civil War story is quite captivating with some rather interesting modelling opportunities (tankettos, maybe some buildings that could work for Cursed Earth settlements as well).
Will have to see when I get back to it. Thanks for looking!
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Great work on those, I like the Kleggs in particular. I have the same pan-manufacturer group of Kleggs waiting for paint and the wildly disparate stature makes me more enthusiastic to paint them. Anything for a bit of variety.
I like the bright green on Johnny too.
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Nice paints Chris, can't stand those mongoose Klegg sculpts. DIRE and static.
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Hi all,
once more into the breach, with a smallish update containing some new Meks for Booth's Robotic Legion of the Damned (or Termight's armies of conquest later on), and two concept models.
First, robots! I recently got some of the Prodos Warzone figures to try out the range - Max Steiner as a model in its own right, and this Attila Cuirassier since he was so adorably hammy.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/MK3_WAR_DROID_MODEL_P_zpsf5a685fa.jpg)
A huge model (on a 40mm base), but with excellent detail and good casting quality. Very enjoyable to paint. I'm looking into getting one of their Eradicators for use as a warbot, but haven't decided whether to paint him as a Volgan or a Free World Forces mek.
Next, another of the old Harlequin War Droids. No conversion this time, I found him at a local swapmeet held twice a year. Was a bit worried that pickings were getting slimmer after the last one, but I got a load of useful fantasy and scifi stuff, the latter mainly consisting of robots for the 2000AD project - Legions of Steel, Ral Partha Reaction marines etc and some Excalibur figs. Will paint those up at a later date.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/MK3_MODEL_H_zps0c93c48a.jpg)
Moving on, War Droid 206B from the Excalibur "Fearless" range. An old model which I got at a previous episode of the aforementioned swapmeet. A bit static, but nicely 2000AD in its design IMHO.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/WARDROID_206B_zpse5b2f3dd.jpg)
And finally, two concept models for a gang of Space Mercenaries (Torching the Native Huts on Anthrax IVTM). Easily recognizable original Warzone figures - a Cybertronic Chasseur and a Capitol Infantryman. Lots of fun to paint and very much in style for my taste - I'm thinking of mixing and matching a couple figs from the old Warzone range, while keeping to the Void VASA Marines for the Eternal Soldiers. They're quite a bit bulkier than the Foundry 2000AD range, but similar in height, so could work out fine.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/2000AD/SPACEMERCS_03_zps4fcb54fc.jpg)
As I am struggling to get myself motivated for a proper, full-blown project, I think painting some 2000AD-ish stuff on-and-off is the more realistic option. But first, off to finish some commissions.
Thanks for looking! I'll replace the pics with better versions once I get a lighting rig figured out, and maybe reactivate my old PC for long enough to extract the image templates I used for the old frame effects, but I wanted to get some feedback now.
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Very nice mate. Love the first one 8) 8) 8)
cheers
James
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Nice work Chris! Nice to see the thread resurrected too :)
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Its always good to see this thread surface again, great work.
Is the cuirasser model assembled as supplied or it converted? It looks a lot more ABC than I expect it to if its off-the-peg.
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Its always good to see this thread surface again, great work.
Agreed!
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I love this thread, very inspirational.
:-*
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Its always good to see this thread surface again, great work.
Is the cuirasser model assembled as supplied or it converted? It looks a lot more ABC than I expect it to if its off-the-peg.
Straight from the blister pack. It's actually single-pose only, with a one-piece torso plus arm/gun pieces, and any change would require some tricky work, particularly with regard to the head and the numerous pistons in the limb joints.
Once the brown parts were finished, I was a bit surprised how similar the model is to the movie Hammerstein. You could probably replace the minigun with sculpted hammer and gun-gauntlet arms, but he'd be in a very sedate pose after that.
Still, a great model.
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Still, a great model.
I think that I have a single Cuirasser that came as part of the Kickstarter starter set. The model is armed with a smaller weapon IIRC, but your work has made me view it in a different light. The model looks fantastic here, just like one of the very few decent things from the 1995 Judge Dredd movie.
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I'm sure that you have these already Chris but:
http://www.excalibur-miniatures.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=230
Good looking ABC's there.