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Title: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Blackwolf on 02 October 2009, 11:25:28 AM
  Well we all like Mauser Broomhandles? Then there is the Webley Fosbery,Colt 1911 and the Artillery Modell Luger (with snail drum). For me it always ends up at the Webley Mars. An overly powerful (it gave an 'magnum flinch' to it's users)and too complicated automatic,for those reasons I love it,shame no miniature company has ever thought of it? Too obscure maybe?

        Whats your's?

  Here's a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Automatic_Pistol         
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: postal on 02 October 2009, 11:33:30 AM
I have to go with the colt 45 peacemaker
very mummy
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Blackwolf on 02 October 2009, 11:48:28 AM
  Trad. Postal,trad. :) Also rather like the Webley Bland Pryse in .577 yes you read it right .577,tho' perhaps it's too early to be Pulp.............
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Plynkes on 02 October 2009, 12:04:56 PM
You nailed it with your first post. Any further discussion is merely wasted breath.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Copyofbroomhandle_10.jpg)
Accept No Substitutes.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Blackwolf on 02 October 2009, 12:11:05 PM
Oh I don't know? It is cool,nice pic Plynkes,schnell feuer and a Broomhandle :-*
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: d phipps on 02 October 2009, 12:25:32 PM
Webleys of all shapes and sizes and lovely weapons, and so I am also fond of the Dutch 1894 Army Revolver.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Will Bailie on 02 October 2009, 12:30:11 PM
Obviously, first vote must go to the broomhandled Mauser.  For simple elegance, however, the sword cane deserves an honorable mention.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Aaron on 02 October 2009, 12:53:13 PM
If it is just to look at I prefer the broomhandle Mauser. If it is to actually use I like the Webley .454 revolver.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: meninobesta on 02 October 2009, 01:22:18 PM
a hand shovel and holy water!

sexier than all the broomhandle-mausers in the world!

and they are always useful in desert campaigns! :D
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Tom Reed on 02 October 2009, 02:19:15 PM

I also like the Broomhandle Mauser, but after that my favorite gun, even though it's more of a western pistol, is the LeMat revolver. 9 shots and a single shot shotgun barrel!
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: warrenss2 on 02 October 2009, 02:23:17 PM
I concur...

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Copyofbroomhandle_10.jpg)

Or...

(http://www.chrissicoile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/gun1.jpg)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Malamute on 02 October 2009, 02:29:27 PM
I concur...



(http://www.chrissicoile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/gun1.jpg)

Or the pump action version. ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: JollyBob on 02 October 2009, 02:36:44 PM
While I would naturally choose the Colt 1911 A1 as my own perfect sidearm (with the Mauser running a closely contested second), I think it shocking that nobody has yet mentioned the Smith & Wesson .38:

(http://mpmuseum.org/ww2equipment/ww2weapons/smith2.jpg)

Can you imagine a dimestore Pulp novella without one of these? What would the trusty beat cop, or down at heel private dick do without them?

Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Froggy the Great on 02 October 2009, 02:42:00 PM
This might be stretching the period for Pulp per se, but I've always had a soft spot for the MP-40.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Doomhippie on 02 October 2009, 02:44:00 PM
I like 'em all as long as they have two qualities: punch big holes into goons and be totally useless against evil masterminds.  lol
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: fairoaks024 on 02 October 2009, 04:44:52 PM
i have to go with the cool kids, broomhandle mauser for me too

regards

jim
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: dbsubashi on 03 October 2009, 11:43:31 AM
I go with the Colt .45. Good enough for the Shadow and the Ghost Who Walks, good enough for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Blackwolf on 03 October 2009, 11:58:20 AM

 Yeah,great in Last Man Standing,a brilliant film (based on Yojimbo). Actually has a scene where Bruce Willis is loading loads of mags,a first in Hollywood,the hero actually having a realistic ammo supply. And the Shadow,forgot about him,maybe that should be sidearm(s) lol
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: bc99 on 03 October 2009, 04:18:05 PM
Webley, with the lanyard attached of course.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 03 October 2009, 04:27:52 PM
if it comes to pulp, I favor the doulble barrel sawn-off shotgun, preferrably with exterior cocks
for later the mp 40, earlier the whitneyville walker dragoon

but I agree that the broomhandle is the ultimate pulp sidearm

are rayguns pulp?
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Plynkes on 03 October 2009, 04:34:25 PM
Yes. Very much so. Especially ones styled like 50s American cars, with lots of pointless fins and such.


Of course, the ultimate raygun is still the Broomhandle Mauser:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/han-solo.jpg)

Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 03 October 2009, 04:52:05 PM
then I think I like this one
(http://www.lilela.net/wp-content/uploads/raygun.jpg)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Gundamentalist 5.56 on 03 October 2009, 05:04:38 PM
No, no, no!

The best Pulp side arm is the P-08 Luger!

...Where function finally meets form.
...When the weapon is an extension of the hand.
...There's a reason it was the most coverted trophy of both world wars for allied troops.
...As used by all good Prussian evil masterminds.

I'll let the pictures do the talking...
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/gundamentalist/Luger_1808.jpg)

And when you really need to shoot a lot of people...
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s83/gundamentalist/luger-parabellum-with-magazine.jpg)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Dr X on 03 October 2009, 08:19:36 PM
DEATH-RAY!!!
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 03 October 2009, 08:39:06 PM
I always admired the mechanism of the Luger, and how it really worked well
production must have been expensive

the follower model Walther is a piece of junk that You better throw instead of shooting
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 03 October 2009, 10:32:48 PM
Merwin and Hulbert double action "pocket" revolver in 44-40. or a Colt 1911 in 38 super caliber.  But nothing brings a fight to an end quite like a sawed-off 12 guage loaded with 00 buckshot.

The first is a 1870s revolver that was too well made, and therefore too expensive.  It was the only revolver that would only eject fired cartidges and leave in the cylinder unfired cartridges.

The 1922 in 38 super was Clyde Barrows choice as it was a good cartidge for punching holes in cars.  Sort of the 10mm or 40 S&W cartidge of the day.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Leapsnbounds on 04 October 2009, 12:47:53 AM
Give me a Luger any day.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Weird WWII on 04 October 2009, 04:29:07 AM
Dual Colt 1911A1 in shoulder holsters with a couple pockets full of magazines and a client's dame in some candid black and whites.

Bliss,
Brian

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/kampfgruppecottrell/1887071zl4.jpg)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Blackwolf on 04 October 2009, 10:10:12 AM
That was a good film..........Last Man Standing  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: postal on 04 October 2009, 02:20:50 PM
oh-yeah last man standing best movie ever.Those 1911's knock that guy out the door.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: jlstuht on 04 October 2009, 06:32:38 PM
While I've got tons of assorted pistols and rifles that I take to the range, the ones that draw the most attention from fellow shooters and desire to try out are the two Lugers I have (WWII souvenirs brought back by a relative). 

They fit the hand beautifully, point naturally, and are just a blast to shoot.  My second favorite tho has to be the good old 1911 - carried one in the army and have loved them ever since!
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: rjandron on 04 October 2009, 11:07:58 PM
I can't believe I forgot all about Last Man Standing. That film was a hoot!

While many pulp heroes prefer the Colt .45, they never really appealed to me. Give me the M32 Mauser. Sure it's uncontrollable, but what else screams pulp besides a fully-automatic Mauser Machinepistol?

Also have a soft spot in my heart for the Thompson Submachinegun (Tommygun, Chopper, Chicago Typewriter). Maybe I've seen too many episodes of the Untouchables....  :D

Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Blackwolf on 05 October 2009, 09:53:10 AM
Well then it seems we move on from pistols to things bigger. As a rifle I'd take a Lee Enfield,smgs ? Well everyone associates Pulp smg's with MP 18s and 28s,however my favourite would be the Finnish Suomi or the Beretta,I also like the Sten for it's pureness (sic).And finally as a LMG well.....a Bren ? Not very Pulpy so a Lewis (Artizan do a great Pulp Lewis gunner in the Very Private Army set) or a Vickers K......So picture this a giant man wolf armed with 2 pistols (a Mauser and a Webley) and either a rifle,a Lewis gun or a Suomi (if he were a weredingo he'd have an Owen gun surely). Oh where am I ? That's right reality :o

   "Go ahead evil villain, make my day!"
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Weird WWII on 05 October 2009, 10:23:35 AM
It's the Thompson for me!  Just can't stop a .45 and the 99 rounds behind it.

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/kampfgruppecottrell/gmoll.jpg)

Brian
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Blackwolf on 05 October 2009, 10:37:35 AM
The girl's not bad either ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 05 October 2009, 11:43:14 AM
So picture this a giant man wolf armed with 2 pistols (a Mauser and a Webley) and either a rifle,a Lewis gun or a Suomi (if he were a weredingo he'd have an Owen gun surely).

want to see conversion!  ;)
now! ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 06 October 2009, 07:16:14 AM
A weredingo with an Owen gun, now that is an obscure but cool reference.

For long guns I like the BAR, or civilian version the Monitor.  Thought the Polich version, with a pistol grip was pretty cool.

Soumi SMG is a great gun, and slightly out of the pulp era so is the PPsh41 russian smg.  The man that Ian Fleming based his James Bond character upon supposedly could shoot a Soumi while sking backwards. 

But aren't we really just fooling ourselves, everybody knows that coolest sidearm is the bullwhip, just ask Dr. Jones.  Of course he did also carry a .45 caliber 1917 revolver, either a S&W or a Colt, never could figure out which.

Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: TadPortly on 06 October 2009, 08:11:52 AM
Fairly standard stuff for me - pistols vary; for bad guys its always the Luger or Broomhandle Mauser; for good guys its got to be a .45 Colt or a .445 Webley if your British (although the Dane in Miller's Crossing uses one too).

Shotguns are always fun and its got to be the Winchester Model 1897 Trench Broom.

SMGs are rare in the pulp era so you are fairly limited to MP18/28 or Thompson, but a Mauser Schnellfeuer is quite cool, if wildely inaccurate.

Long rifles are an odd one as characters tend not to use them, and even then carbines are more handy. I guess the Winchester Model 1895 or the good old SMLE.

Exotic stuff would be the BAR, .416 John Rigby & Co Elephant Gun, or Mauser 1918 TuF Gewehr
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 06 October 2009, 08:27:33 AM
has anyone ever heard of the Russian obreza ?
it is described as an army rifle with sawn-off barrel and stock, used by peasants to defend themselves
found a picture
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7_7.62-%D0%BC%D0%BC_%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%86%D0%B0_1891_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0.jpg)

seems a weird concept to me
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: warrenss2 on 06 October 2009, 08:57:42 AM
I think everyone has their own favorite pulp sidearm and it seems everyone loves that sidearm.

Here is a picture of LAF's own peaceful Pil, who gave up his normal artistic endeavors at a chance to go ape with a bang-bang.

(http://www.graphicsdb.com/data/thumbnails/115/shooting_chimp.gif)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 06 October 2009, 09:12:20 AM
is this CG?
if not, "Planet of the Apes" is calling....
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Blackwolf on 06 October 2009, 09:34:11 AM
You should see a werewolf do it ! Actually former user I'm planning on using the Hasslefree Harby as the basis of a werewolf conversion,your comment's are just the inspiration I need  :D Said werewolf will be wearing British battledress,he is known as the 'Captain',I would also like to do him in a Denison Smock.......arrgh stolen my own thread,lupine rambling.........
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 06 October 2009, 10:04:58 AM
You can't steal Your own thread ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: warrenss2 on 06 October 2009, 10:26:27 AM
To be honest, as much as I love the look of the broom-handle, I'd probably go with something with more stopping power.

Then I'd arm myself like Rick in the Mummy movies.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Blackwolf on 06 October 2009, 10:48:13 AM
Exactly!
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 06 October 2009, 11:57:44 AM
the scene from Mad Max "Beyond Thunderdome" comes to my mind, when he has to leave all of his weapons at this entrance counter  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: warrenss2 on 06 October 2009, 12:08:05 PM
That Mad Max scene is EXACTLY what I had in mind if someone told me to drop my guns, knives, swords, machetes, etc...

Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: colkillgore on 07 October 2009, 01:12:15 AM
Everybody loves a broomhandle but how about A colt .38 super.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 07 October 2009, 08:18:42 AM
cokillgore, the colt 1911 in 38 super, which I mentioned earlier, is agreat gun for the era with lots of pernatration for a hand gun.

former user, I think the idea behind a sawed off rifle is that it servs as a pistol for those without access to pistols, has a lot of power and light weight.  Rather hard to control though.  But better then a sword or a pitchfork for a peasant.  Also a lot easier to hid either on your person or to bury under a dung pile if you know the secret police are coming.

jlstuht, I too own lots of pistols and revolvers, but no lugers.  What usually gets the most interest when I am at the pistol range are my S&W model 3 Schofield revolvers, in 45 colt, especially if I shoot them in black powder.  Lots of smoke.  Actually they are Uberti copies.  I had one custom modified to a 4 inch barrel with stag grips, and a canadian silver dime front sight, It is my (northern) border special.  Of course the rifle that gets the most attention is my Sharps in 45-70.  I have more fun with the old guns then all my high tech semiauto stuff.  I also hit the center of the target more. 

Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Mr.Dodo on 07 October 2009, 09:58:52 AM
I was going to talk about my Broomhandle Mauser BB gun but Leadfool has left me feeling very British and undergunned!
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: pilot on 07 October 2009, 10:27:07 AM
twin blazing colt .45s are pure american pulp all the way.   :) :)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 07 October 2009, 01:13:59 PM
Yup, that was the idea bhind the obreza, however I would expect it to give a tremendous kick and maybe break your wrist, if fired by an unexperienced person.

the "3-line" obreza, the most powerful hand weapon in the world - go ahead, make my day bolshevik  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 08 October 2009, 06:22:37 AM
Mr DoDo Sorry, but if you ever come to the "Colonies" I will gladly take you shooting. 

I tend to out gun a lot of people, just because my brother and I used to be in the gun business.

Besides a broomhandle bb gun would be fun too.  If you have one, I don't, so you win that one.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Ironworker on 10 October 2009, 04:28:34 PM
has anyone ever heard of the Russian obreza ?
it is described as an army rifle with sawn-off barrel and stock, used by peasants to defend themselves
found a picture
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7_7.62-%D0%BC%D0%BC_%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%86%D0%B0_1891_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0.jpg)

seems a weird concept to me

As if a regular Mosin didn't kick hard enough....

I've got a 91/30 and an M44 and there is no way you could pay me enough to fire 7.62x54r out of something like that. 
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 10 October 2009, 05:08:20 PM
exactly what I thought... ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: The Worker on 29 December 2009, 12:16:39 PM
Sorry to conduct necromancy on this thread, but...

The obreza sawn-off rifle was the favoured weapon of the Kulak resistance to the Red Army. Easy to conceal, it was usually fired at point-blank range to maximise the likelihood of hitting your target and reduce the chances of them shooting back.

Personally, however, I'd go for a Webley .445 revolver and either a Tommy gun or a Lanchester SMG.

Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 29 December 2009, 12:33:23 PM
well, it really needs the sturdyness of a man of the land to fire such a weapon. I read it was used by polish partisans later too
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: The Worker on 29 December 2009, 12:37:24 PM
Doesn't surprise me. It'd certainly be intimidating, that is until you see the broken wrist sustained by anyone trying to fire it one-handed.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 29 December 2009, 12:42:09 PM
and if You still have wrists to use after five shots it is a formidable club  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Monk on 29 December 2009, 09:19:41 PM
I haven't seen it mentioned yet in this thread, but the ultimate pulp sidearm has to be the Colt Detective Special.  How many movie toughs jammed one into some mook's ribs, or found themselves staring down the barrel of one held by a dame who played rough?

And if you're going to list the Mauser broomhandle, why not at least note the rarer and more powerful .45 model?
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: flooglestreet on 29 December 2009, 09:56:13 PM
I want a Lewiston, like Conway Costigan in Triplanetary.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 31 December 2009, 08:42:15 AM
OK Flooglestreet, you have me stumped, a what?  What is/was a lewiston, who is conway Costigan and what is Triplanetary??????


Monk.... I prefer my .38 caliber snubbie revolvers to be S&W over Colt. 
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: flooglestreet on 31 December 2009, 09:27:04 AM
Triplanetary is the first volume in the History of Civilization. A multivolume opus by Dr. Edward E. Smith Ph.D. Conway Costigan is a stout hearted irishman and a crack agent of Virgil Samms Triplanetary service. Said agents make our Solar system habitable for decent sentients everywhere, by constant vigilance against Space pirates and drug runners. http://www.ethanfleischer.com/lensman/main.htm

The Lewiston is the issue sidearm of space patrolmen everywhere, be they Venusian, Matrian or from our own mother earth in the never ending battle against kedonolating zwilniks.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: The Worker on 31 December 2009, 10:11:46 AM
EE 'Doc' Smith - one of SF's greats!

Although if we're bringing pulp SF into it, I'd like a plasma pistol and a bolt gun please. ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 31 December 2009, 10:42:02 AM
OK, how does this Lewiston look like?
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: flooglestreet on 31 December 2009, 11:48:32 AM
OK, how does this Lewiston look like?
Its longer and narrower then a deLameter with a flaring transduction chamber. It lacks the press-to-eject reaction baffles common to rocket pistols, of course, but has a dual mitron where the baffles would be. It has the same pistol grip as the cisLunar rocket pistol but the cadmium-nickle Barstoe collar is a dead giveaway. Being an energy weapon, it has a muzzle flash like a newspaper photographers camera.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 01 January 2010, 03:30:40 AM
floogle street, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 01 January 2010, 08:30:58 PM
well, thx for the Info, but a picture would contribute much more to my understanding  :) ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 02 January 2010, 05:09:26 AM
former user,
Flooglestreet left a connection to the lensman series.  The "Children of the lens" has a picture of a gun, which I think might be lewiston.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: flooglestreet on 02 January 2010, 11:12:40 AM
Thanks for pointing that out Leadfool, but it's a deLameter.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: alone_withmyaxe on 02 January 2010, 04:53:06 PM
(http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/images/webley_mkvi/webley_mk6-4.jpg)
455 for good measure

Or maybe
(http://www.linedancing-shop.co.uk/images/catalog/FRENCH_LE_MATT_REVOLVER_Large.jpg)
For fun!
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: The Worker on 03 January 2010, 09:47:36 AM
You certainly can't go wrong with a Webley mk VI .455 revolver.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: comet5 on 09 April 2010, 04:21:44 PM
Now known in my group as the Webley Dragon Stopper.  Talk about a lucky shot!
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Hammers on 09 April 2010, 05:42:35 PM
Its longer and narrower then a deLameter with a flaring transduction chamber. It lacks the press-to-eject reaction baffles common to rocket pistols, of course, but has a dual mitron where the baffles would be. It has the same pistol grip as the cisLunar rocket pistol but the cadmium-nickle Barstoe collar is a dead giveaway. Being an energy weapon, it has a muzzle flash like a newspaper photographers camera.

And  how many phasar pulses can it discharge in a minute?  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: shadowking1957 on 09 April 2010, 10:00:53 PM
My all time favorite is the Mauser96

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7SmFh8Xawgc/S7-U_B9I38I/AAAAAAAAAkc/T_JwBCQjcmE/s400/Snapshot+pistol+new.jpg)

Tony
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Johnno on 10 April 2010, 03:42:40 AM
Can't stop the 1911. 2nd C96 Mauser, 3rd P-08 Luger
Other notables not mentioned:
Browning hi-power (U.S.)
Nambu (Japan)
Tokarev (Russia)
Walther PPK (Germany) can't believe this is not on the list.

Remington model 12 shotguns (trench guns), thompsons and BARS would be my tops for shotgun, SMG and rifle.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: moif on 10 April 2010, 07:38:47 PM
I am also quite partial to the Mauser C96 'Broomhandle', though its the M712 fully automatic variant that tickles my fancy the most.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_C96#M1932_.2F_M712_Schnellfeuer

Other than the Mauser, I am also fond of the Bergman MP18/28
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP18

...the Lewis Gun (though it bugs me how many manufacturers rely on the Lewis gun unstead of some more obscure alternatives)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_gun

...and the incredibly sexy MG34!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG34

But my favourite of all time (for looks), has to be the De Lisle silenced carbine with folding stock

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/evilmoif/-ROCKETMAN-/deLisle_drg1.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/evilmoif/-ROCKETMAN-/De_Lisle_Carbine_Folding_Stock.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lisle_carbine
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: ushistoryprof on 10 April 2010, 08:37:47 PM
Colt 1911 and Tommy Gun, the best of both worlds-stopping power and fire power.  Plus you only need to carry on type of ammo.  For real room cleaning power though I would go with a 12 gauge trench gun, five rapid fire shots with double O buckshot will ruin anybodys day in  close quarters.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: WallShadow on 11 April 2010, 01:57:11 AM
While the Mosin-Nagant rifle has gotten its day in the sun, no one has yet mentioned its hand-gun cousin, the 1895  7.62mm Nagant pistol.  Mine has the double-action trigger pull of a Soviet tank clutch.  Because of its unique cartridge (the bullet is seated completely within the casing) and action (the rebated cylinder moves forward to enclose the breech end of the barrel) , this makes for a very effective gas seal.  This the only revolver that has been successfully fitted with a silencer.

Best of all, it has _seven_ shots!
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: DowVooVoo on 11 April 2010, 04:28:30 AM
Colt .45 1911, no two Colt .45 1911 :-* :-* :-* :-*s
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Johnno on 11 April 2010, 04:40:44 AM
Colt 1911 and Tommy Gun, the best of both worlds-stopping power and fire power.  Plus you only need to carry on type of ammo.  For real room cleaning power though I would go with a 12 gauge trench gun, five rapid fire shots with double O buckshot will ruin anybodys day in  close quarters.
Exactly. .45ACP is all you need.

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Colt .45 1911, no two Colt .45 1911 :-* :-* :-* :-*s
I like your style
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 11 April 2010, 06:20:55 AM
Clyde, of Bonnie and.... used to carry a 1911 but in 38 super caliber.  Much better penatration of car doors then the .45.  He also carried, when he could, a BAR, usually with a shortened barrel.  Only a little heavier and alot more penatration, 30-06 vs 45acp.

.45 has been doing the job for a long time (since 1903), and 45 colt (my favorite rev caliber) for 30 years before that.  No argument they are great calibers, and a the best for putting holes in people, but sometimes the people are behind something and that is often a car door.

My current carry gun is a Glock model 22 in .40 S&W caliber for just that reason, penatration, (and it holds 15 rds.). 

In 1920 I would likely have carried a S&W revolver in 45 colt and a 1911 in 38 super. 

But had both a 12 guage and a BAR available. 
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Johnno on 15 April 2010, 11:22:53 AM


.45 has been doing the job for a long time (since 1903), and 45 colt (my favorite rev caliber) for 30 years before that.  No argument they are great calibers, and a the best for putting holes in people, but sometimes the people are behind something and that is often a car door.



Car doors aren't cover. They are concealment. .45ACP should have no problems with that, as your .40 S&W (and mine) surely doesn't
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: former user on 15 April 2010, 11:48:58 AM
My current carry gun is a Glock model 22 in .40 S&W caliber for just that reason, penatration, (and it holds 15 rds.).  

what is Your job, car hunting?  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Johnno on 15 April 2010, 08:21:05 PM
 Yes, I am the Car Hunter
Watch for my new series on HBO. Lol
:D
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 16 April 2010, 07:48:58 AM
Ammo now tends to be alot faster as weapons can handle greater pressures then before. 

I agree car doors are concealment not cover, that was just what Clyde Barrow is supposed to have indicated the 38 super was good for punching through.

Me, I shoot paper that is pretty easy to shoot through or when I cowboy shoot, it is heavy steel targets with soft lead bullets, for the "Clang" 

The weapon I carry every day I hope never to have to use.  Especially since that will mean someone is already shooting at me.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Johnno on 16 April 2010, 08:54:18 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Cory_d on 22 April 2010, 04:29:19 AM
I'm surprised none of the webley afficionados have suggested the Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver, either in .455 or the .38(8 shot!) versions

for the old school victorian hero the Lancaster Howdah pistol in .577 Eley is still a clear favourite

but for great pulp guns its hard to beat the inspiration of John Dillinger

(http://www.nfatoys.com/tsmg/images/dillenger.jpg)

his fully automatic .38 super pistol with Tommygun foregrip in the bottom third of the picture is a standout

but the sawn off, pistol gripped Browning Auto5 shotgun at the bottom is pure quality but the Winchester 1907 Rifle in the top right should really be a Colt Monitor(shortened BAR) for maximum coolness. Apart from that though these are all non fictional, someone really used them !

Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 22 April 2010, 06:43:01 AM
The shortened semiauto shotguns, were often carried with a strap holding the weapon close under the arm.  They were then called a whippet.  As it you could whip it out.  5 Rounds of 12 guage out of a short barrel is very intimidating.
The single shot shotgun and the .22 target pistol look a little out of place, but the .22 is quiet, and might be usefull in his line of work.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 28 April 2010, 08:26:46 AM
Re Dillingers "gang" how many members was that?  I count 15 pistols and revolvers as well as 2 short barreled shotguns.  That is 17 total.  If 5 members of the gang, then more then 3 each along with whatever long guns.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: ushistoryprof on 28 April 2010, 05:50:55 PM
Re Dillingers "gang" how many members was that?  I count 15 pistols and revolvers as well as 2 short barreled shotguns.  That is 17 total.  If 5 members of the gang, then more then 3 each along with whatever long guns.
  According to the FBI report he had several groups or gangs of supporters.  Dillinger with four or five gang members were common numbers.  Here is a brief but interesting read on his case:
http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/famcases/dillinger/dillinger.htm
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Johnno on 29 April 2010, 01:52:15 AM
"first Dillinger gang" = Harry Pierpont, Russell "Boobie" Clark, Charles Makley, Edward W. Shouse, Jr., Harry Copeland, James "Oklahoma Jack" Clark, Walter Dietrich and John "Red" Hamilton.

2nd gang = Lester "Baby Face Nelson" Gillis, Homer Van Meter, Tommy Carroll, Joseph Fox, Joe Burns, James Jenkins, and Eddie Green.

That's 15 gang members...surely some guns were seized by police, lost, or just disappeared
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 29 April 2010, 06:58:27 AM
UShistoryprof and Johnno,
Thank you gentlemen for the info.

Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: northtroll on 04 June 2013, 09:41:20 PM
C-96 Broomhandle Mauser pretty much spells pulp as far as I'm concerned. Other favorites, the Thompson, of course, the BAR, and the Colt 1911. I love Webley revolvers, as well and the P-08 Luger. But I'll tell you the one that looks somewhat interesting but gets no press at all is the Steyer-Hahn 9mm pistol. It looks like a large version of early Colt and Browining designs, but chambered for 9mm Steyer. Odd and different, but interesting to me.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: doowopapocalypse on 05 June 2013, 12:11:23 AM
I always had a soft spot for the Colt Hammerless.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Alfrik on 05 June 2013, 12:40:13 AM
Favorite side arm, the one that has just enough bullets to "get the job done" of course!

(or power pack energy!)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. on 05 June 2013, 06:05:48 AM
You know the scene when Indiana Jones shoots the big dude with the sword in the crowd at the market place. Yeah that's the fav,..and went down in small arms legend because of that scene. So forget the rest,..they're no where near famous.  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Hammers on 05 June 2013, 08:43:40 AM
Nothing says Pulp villain like a Luger.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: H.M.Stanley on 05 June 2013, 10:46:13 AM
Mauser. If it was good enough for Churchill on the charge ...
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Malebolgia on 05 June 2013, 03:22:12 PM
My favorite:

(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/176/1727740-shotgun.jpg)

Love the sawed-off 8)
And of course one of my favorite miniatures:

(http://www.mirliton.it/images/catalog/NM006.jpg)
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: northtroll on 05 June 2013, 04:00:03 PM
Yes, it does say "Boomstick", doesn't it! The S&W model 1917 is a nice revolver. I owned one years ago. Not quite as intimidating as a Webley in .455 but damn near!
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Conquistador on 06 June 2013, 02:21:19 AM
cokillgore, ,snip> Of course the rifle that gets the most attention is my Sharps in 45-70.  I have more fun with the old guns then all my high tech semiauto stuff.  I also hit the center of the target more. 



As a kid taking hunter safety class at the end the instructor who was collector fired several - about half a dozen - older guns (45-70?  45-90? etc., the first was actually louder then the second.)  So uber-cool...

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: ushistoryprof on 06 June 2013, 06:58:40 PM

As a kid taking hunter safety class at the end the instructor who was collector fired several - about half a dozen - older guns (45-70?  45-90? etc., the first was actually louder then the second.)  So uber-cool...

Gracias,

Glenn

Oh yes, I have so many fond memories of my first rifle training when my Uncle showed me the thrill of shooting his Model 94 Winchester .30-30 in the early '60's.  It wasn't as fancy, sleek or as powerful as many more modern guns but boy was it fun to fire and so iconic an American weapon.  I still remember how great it felt in the saddle boot when we would ride the fence lines looking for strays or the back country hunting deer.

As to Pulp it just brings to mind so many cops and robbers adventures through out the America's.

HProf
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http://worldhistoryprof.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: leadfool on 07 June 2013, 09:00:23 AM
So the Pulp gun is "limited" to any caliber between 22 and 50.  Any country of origin including France, Germany, Spain, Russia, Britain, The U.S. or China, any action from single shot, revolver, semiauto, full auto, bolt action, or lever action.  Did I miss anything????
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Weird WWII on 09 June 2013, 02:17:45 PM
Its dual Colt 1911s for me!

Brian
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Franz_Josef on 09 June 2013, 05:15:30 PM
Bergman MP-18 http://www.ask.com/wiki/MP_18?o=2801&qsrc=999
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Ramirez Noname on 15 June 2013, 11:11:31 PM
As Malebolgia said ...

(http://www.mirliton.it/images/catalog/NM006.jpg)


One of my fav miniatures, therefore, sawn-off by default.

RMZ
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: WallShadow on 06 October 2013, 05:15:02 AM
What about the Webley-Fosbery ( "It's a Webley-Foresby, .45 automatic, eight shot. They don't make 'em anymore." as erroneously described by Sam Spade, of the weapon that killed his erstwhile partner, Miles Archer.
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Franz_Josef on 06 October 2013, 08:37:06 PM
If you want a man-stopper revolver, nothing at the time has the power of:
"The M1870 Gasser was a revolver chambered for 11.2x29.5mm and was adopted by the Austro-Hungarian Cavalry in 1870. It was an open-frame model, with the barrel unit attached to the frame by a screw beneath the cylinder arbor. The arbor pin was screwed into the barrel unit and fitted into a recess in the standing breech. The cylinder was gate-loaded from the right side, and a rod ejector was carried beneath the barrel. A unique safety bar will usually be found on the right of the frame, below the cylinder. This carries pins which pass through holes in the frame to engage the lock mechanism. Slightly retracting the hammer allows one of these pins to move inward, preventing the hammer moving forward again when released. The pistol can thereafter be carried safely when loaded. Pressure on the trigger withdraws the pin from the path of the hammer before firing. The M1870 Gasser became the Austro-Hungarian cavalry revolver. It chambered an 11.2mm centerfire cartridge usually called the '11mm Montenegrin', a long cartridge which had earlier been used in Fruwirth carbines. [1]
Title: Re: Favourite Pulp Side Arm ?
Post by: Capitan Diavolo on 20 October 2013, 12:26:28 AM
Number 1:
2x COLT M1911, .45, in two underarm (shoulder) vertical holsters.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/944182_323616021104778_886981765_n.jpg)

Number 2:
2x Mauser C/96 9mm Parabellum "Broomhandle" customized for detachable 13 rounds ammo magazine, carried in classic position (hips), with the handles to front.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/10204_323569544442759_174365815_n.jpg)

Number 3:
1x Luger Long P'08 9mm Parabellum (Artillery Model), carried in the right boot.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/995502_323590681107312_964114678_n.jpg)

Number 4:
1x Thompson M1921, .45
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1374334_381565341976512_306101330_n.jpg)

Number 5:
1x Italian combat knife originally of the "San Marco" Battalion, 1916. Carried in the left boot.
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3907/044cpugnaleeismarco.jpg)

Cheers.