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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Marshall on 07 March 2022, 10:43:42 PM

Title: Mongolian catapult
Post by: Marshall on 07 March 2022, 10:43:42 PM

I'm after some help with what a Mongolian catapult would look like and where best to get one.

I play WaB and I'm trying to fill out a Mongolian force. I'm happy to use the fireforge infantry as crew but I'm unsure what to use as the actual catapult

Would it look like an older roman onager or a larger siege trebuchet.

I honestly don't know. Any help would be greatly appreciated

Oh it'd be in 28mm

Ta
Marsh

Title: Re: Mongolian catapult
Post by: AdamPHayes on 07 March 2022, 11:04:57 PM

Presumably it would be a Chinese trebuchet? Something like this:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/SiJiao_Pao-t1.jpg)

Title: Re: Mongolian catapult
Post by: Golgotha on 07 March 2022, 11:16:13 PM

Mongolians used Chinese for their siegecraft so likely these weapons would have been of Chinese design see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Xiangyang

https://factsanddetails.com/asian/cat65/sub423/item2696.html  - this one is a rather nice link...

https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2019/12/27/mongolian-siege-warfare-and-the-defense-of-mamluk-fortresses-i/

Adding some Chinese rockets could also be fun, see: http://weebau.com/history/chinese%20fire-arrows.htm
and
https://wsmrmuseum.com/2020/08/09/a-brief-history-of-rocketry-early-rockets-to-goddard/2/

Title: Re: Mongolian catapult
Post by: Thew2 on 07 March 2022, 11:29:57 PM

1st Corps do one in 28mm for the Song Dynasty, which should work...
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product/su27-man-powered-stonethrower/

Title: Re: Mongolian catapult
Post by: Cacique Caribe on 08 March 2022, 08:19:33 AM

This is all I could find on their “human-powered” catapults, in the way of illustration:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/322077810832458020/?mt=login

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/mongolian-military-museum

https://alan.ferrency.com/2010/05/09/scratchbuilt-mongol-trebuchet/

(https://medievalists.gumlet.io/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Byzantine_Trebuchet_Skylintzes.jpg)

https://www.medievalists.net/2013/01/the-trebuchet/

Dan
PS.  The device helped them conduct biological warfare back then:
https://medium.com/frame-of-reference/the-mongols-helped-spread-a-pandemic-to-europe-through-biological-warfare-ad7960c948d5

Title: Re: Mongolian catapult
Post by: Tim Haslam on 08 March 2022, 08:55:00 PM

Yup,
The 1st Corps one is the one you need.
They do a great man powered one.