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Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: KD47 on April 02, 2022, 09:43:50 PM

Title: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: KD47 on April 02, 2022, 09:43:50 PM
Hello again all, here with another art project write up.    "The Last Train West" is a euphemism from the Deathlands book series implying impending death.   Or you could make something similar like "The Last Train to Doomsday", which was an episode of Thundarr the Barbarian.  Or something from the now-classic computer games Metro 2033 and Metro Exodus, which heavily inspired these specific pieces.  At any rate, this one's about post-apocalyptic trains if you haven't guessed.

All of these are old Lionel O scale items purchased on eBay.   I looked for the cheapest, most beaten-up, non-collectible ones I could find.   Then I gave them the old rust-and-ruin treatment.    You can get some old track pieces for your game table and maybe build the Rail Nomad's camp from your favorite old computer game from back in the day.

The locomotive is an amalgam of an old locomotive and pieces from an old caboose. There are many bits and extra pipes added too, but you can see the Metro 2033 DNA shining through in the design of the beast.  For the base coat, I used a heavy overspray of Krylon camouflage dark brown, with a light overspray of orange on top of that.   That should give you a good foundation to work from.    Then I used a combination of dry-brushing, pastel chalks, the Vallejo rust and corrosion set,  the Dirty Down instant rust coating, and GW's Typhus Corrosion and Ryza Rust.

Some notes:
Pastel chalks:   I used dark rust, light rust for the larger sections, AK interactive Africa dust to grind in the occasional bit of dirt, and black for the dark recesses.   All worked like a charm.

Dirty Down instant rust - not bad, be sure to shake it up thoroughly and wash your brushes out well.    Add this over an already-existing metal paint job to rust it out.   Flat it when you're done because it can rub off if you don't.

Vallejo Rust and Corrosion paints - work well to dry-brush the brighter colors but also contain rusty washes for streaking and runny effects.   First rate.

GW Typhus Corrosion and Ryza rust technical paint and dry-paint - excellent.   You can pretty much paint over something with Typhus corrosion and have it look realistically trashed in and of itself.   Keep it thick for heavy nastiness or thin it down for a bit of grunge.   Then go over it with the old Ryza Rush for those bright orange fresh rust pieces.    Play around and add some chalks and Vallejo rust washes and you will have arrived at your destination.

If you're going to use grafitti decals, go for it but you may have to peel them and let them dry, paint the back white or light tan, then re-wet them, place and lacquer.   The way they're made, the background color shines through too much and that's usually not the effect you want if you have darker items.

That last one is a shack made from the "scrap" piece of the caboose that modded the locomotive.   Never let a disaster got to waste.

Pictures are below.   Enjoy.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: clanmac on April 02, 2022, 09:47:14 PM
Wow, that is awesome. Wonderful job.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: KD47 on April 02, 2022, 09:59:15 PM
Thanks.   A real advantage is that it breaks down and can be assembled on-site, which is my preferable M.O.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: diehard on April 03, 2022, 12:53:36 AM
Great idea wonderfully executed. Nice little write up on the methods used to achieve such great results also. Thanks for sharing.

And bonus points for mentioning Thundarr the Barbarian. Have the series on DVD, going to have to dig it out and watch it again soon. As a major Kirby fan probably my all time favorite cartoon.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 03, 2022, 07:32:24 AM
Love it  8)
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: levied troop on April 03, 2022, 08:15:02 AM
Excellent rust work and a very useful explanation.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on April 03, 2022, 01:30:39 PM
Brilliant work!
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: Spinal Tap on April 04, 2022, 06:52:06 AM
Brilliant.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: syrinx0 on April 05, 2022, 05:00:30 AM
Great weathering.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: Kourtchatovium104 on April 05, 2022, 03:51:51 PM
Very inspirational  :)
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: War Monkey on April 07, 2022, 01:56:56 AM
Nice work, they do look like the last train heading west.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: James Mahdeep Bond V on April 08, 2022, 03:28:05 PM
Interesting placement of the locomotive cab above the firebox.  Might get a tad warm up there. Dontchathink?
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: KD47 on April 09, 2022, 01:51:28 PM
No, not at all.   Looks always trump reality, just like in real life!
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: James Mahdeep Bond V on April 09, 2022, 01:57:10 PM
Got to admit, that is a cool look, or a hot look.
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Post by: James Mahdeep Bond V on April 09, 2022, 01:59:37 PM
The graffiti looks good. Looks like it takes practice. Tagged 'em like an artiste.



Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: snitcythedog on April 12, 2022, 05:07:35 PM
Very cool and imaginative build.  I really like how you modified the engine. 
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: mikos khan on April 18, 2022, 12:38:38 AM
Great work as always.  I really like the "cockpit" you put on top of the locomotive engine.  Where did you get it?  Also all the various bits (tires, barrels, tarps etc) on the side of the engine are a nice touch.  I especially like the weathering & grafitti on the box cars - it reminds me of my last Amtrak adventure! 
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: KD47 on April 21, 2022, 12:50:15 AM
The cockpit was the top part of the caboose in the last picture.   Lopped it off and welded it onto the engine for a different "Metro Exodus" looking train.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: Karadek on April 21, 2022, 03:13:04 PM
Man, that looks good. Your rust and graffiti work is excellent.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: commissarmoody on April 24, 2022, 04:36:57 AM
Very well done.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: eilif on April 29, 2022, 09:05:01 PM
The caboose copula on steam engine is one of the most brilliant train mods I've ever seen.  Knocks the whole model into a slightly more modern setting, while giving it a weird windowed look that knocks it out of our timeline.  I may have to steal that.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: KD47 on April 30, 2022, 01:14:09 AM
Steal Away!
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: Bullshott on May 07, 2022, 08:58:11 AM
Lovely work. Very Metro  :-*
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: Daeothar on May 17, 2022, 12:50:13 PM
Grimy, rusty, tattered, lovely, and not necessarily in that order either  8)
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: leadfool on August 31, 2023, 01:46:53 AM
Looks really great!

Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: shadowbeast on August 31, 2023, 02:39:04 PM
It doesn't look like it was supposed to move?
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: Mr. White on August 31, 2023, 03:14:05 PM
This is fantastic!
Shame I hadn't seen this thread before now.

As I'm doing my post-apoc in 1:72...any idea what scale that's close to for trains? HO? OO?
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: leadfool on September 01, 2023, 01:39:30 AM
HO is 1:87  O scale is 1:48.  S scale which is hard to find is 1:64.  In the UK there is supposedly a OO scale that is 1:76. 
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on September 23, 2023, 09:39:35 AM
As I'm doing my post-apoc in 1:72...any idea what scale that's close to for trains? HO? OO?
HO is 1:87  O scale is 1:48.  S scale which is hard to find is 1:64.  In the UK there is supposedly a OO scale that is 1:76. 
There is no supposedly in it, the default scale for UK model trains is 4mm to the floor (1/76) running on 16.5mm gauge track (yes HO gauge so just over four foot gauge - in scale for the Clockwork Orange but not much else).
https://www.hattons.co.uk/stocklist/1000588/oo_gauge_1_76_scale/productsbyscale (https://www.hattons.co.uk/stocklist/1000588/oo_gauge_1_76_scale/productsbyscale)
Note for non UK readers, model railways in the UK are X Gauge, not scale (so OO gauge, N Gauge) as it is the track that is key - our nine millimetre gauge trains are 1/148 scale.
One reason is we have multiple gauges for the same scale, so if you talked about OO scale, that could be OO gauge, EM gauge (18mm gauge) or proto(Scale)Four (18.83mm).

In answer to Leadfoot's question, HO/OO will probably be the answer, depending on what look you are after.
HO/OO track is readily available, cheap plastic toy track or second hand metal and plastic should be cheap.
Dapol inherited the Kitmaster/Airfix kit range and in the UK you can probably pick some up cheap but they are UK prototypes, so it depends on what you want.
Title: Re: The Last Train West (Rust Heavy Pics)
Post by: eilif on September 23, 2023, 12:08:20 PM
This is fantastic!
Shame I hadn't seen this thread before now.

As I'm doing my post-apoc in 1:72...any idea what scale that's close to for trains? HO? OO?
As had been said, OO is near perfect but almost more important to the choice of trains is the type of train you have in mind, setting and size of table you'll be working with.  Maybe it works be best to start a new topic, but what does your project look like?