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Title: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: Paul Richardson on 04 June 2022, 09:44:44 AM
 I was looking yesterday for TYW flags on the Flags of War website and I saw that they are bringing out via a Kickstarter a new range of reivers. My apologies if there's already been a thread about this, but I wasn't aware until yesterday.
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: Atheling on 04 June 2022, 10:56:48 AM
They are and they look to be stunning figures.

I'm going to jump in but I'm going to wait until the Kickstarter has played through. That's the way I usually go with these sorts of things. I'm happy to support but prefer to do it when all the miniatures have been released- or most of them at least.

If you cast your mind back Wargames Illustrated had some Border Reiver rules (by Chris Peers?).

I have to say, the miniatures do look mighty excellent Paul!

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/037/381/148/9571acb18ec87104cf47e9666c162379_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.0.2&w=680&fit=max&v=1653081382&gif-q=50&q=92&s=d441c0418ab2acc8af5117b4df15597c)

Link to the Kickstarter page should anyone be interested who wasn't aware of the project:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/funkyflags/border-wars-28mm-border-reiver-miniatures-and-rules (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/funkyflags/border-wars-28mm-border-reiver-miniatures-and-rules)
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: majorsmith on 04 June 2022, 10:57:36 AM
Oh wow they are nice!
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: Paul Richardson on 04 June 2022, 11:33:15 AM
I think I read somewhere that they have been produced digitally. I wonder whether that means that they lack a bit of character. I hope not but we'll see.
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: Atheling on 04 June 2022, 11:37:57 AM
I think I read somewhere that they have been produced digitally. I wonder whether that means that they lack a bit of character. I hope not but we'll see.

I suppose it's one of those things; unless you have the miniatures in your hand, you won't really know.

I do know that a few people I know now are producing historical miniatures digitally that are every bit as good as metals. I can't really name names as I'm sure I was told in confidence.
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: Paul Richardson on 04 June 2022, 11:56:55 AM
Yes, I've heard that too but I haven't seen any of the end product 'in the flesh', so to speak. I suspect that one issue may be that digitally-produced figures might not mix well with traditionally-produced figures. Another may be that we're so used to looking at traditionally-produced figures, with all their inaccuracies, that digitally-produced ones may look odd to our eyes, at least at first. I remember being disappointed when I first saw a Perry Miniatures figure - I thought it was too thin and its head was too small, compared with the 1980s figures I was then used to  - but now I can't get enough of them.
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: Atheling on 04 June 2022, 12:00:21 PM
Yes, I've heard that too but I haven't seen any of the end product 'in the flesh', so to speak. I suspect that one issue may be that digitally-produced figures might not mix well with traditionally-produced figures. Another may be that we're so used to looking at traditionally-produced figures, with all their inaccuracies, that digitally-produced ones may look odd to our eyes, at least at first. I remember being disappointed when I first saw a Perry Miniatures figure - I thought it was too thin and its head was too small, compared with the 1980s figures I was then used to  - but now I can't get enough of them.

Good point Paul. The aesthetics of miniatures is, I suppose, always in a state of flux really. I remember the first Perry plastics USA ACW Infantry and Cavalry and thinking "No!". That was now a while ago and for many years I have been very happy to buy plastics. In fact, many of the Perry plastic box sets have superior sculpting to some of the metals IMHO.

Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: majorsmith on 04 June 2022, 01:26:13 PM
Still love the Jim Bowen range , these are lovely though
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: Paul Richardson on 04 June 2022, 02:27:56 PM
Beautifully painted too - by Andrew Taylor.
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: Captain Blood on 05 June 2022, 12:20:30 PM
They do look super. Very tempted - except I already have soooo many ::)

I think I read somewhere that they have been produced digitally. I wonder whether that means that they lack a bit of character. I hope not but we'll see.

Yes, you can just tell can't you - although these do seem to have bundles of the character that often seems missing in digital sculpts. (Sometimes they just look a little unreal or lifeless somehow... Too perfect. But these look darned good).

Interestingly, I know that Nick Collier sculpted Iain's previous ranges. Perhaps if Iain's now gone digital, Nick might now have a little extra time on his hands. Which (selfishly, wearing my Bloody Miniatures hat) might not be all bad :D

The horses here look particularly good.
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: Paul Richardson on 05 June 2022, 12:43:07 PM
I was thinking that the horses looked particularly good too. Good horses are rare, imho.
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: LeadAsbestos on 05 June 2022, 11:18:00 PM
Knuckleduster miniatures are all digital sculpts and are hands down the best Old West minis you can buy, in my opinion.
It's the artist, not the medium.
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: Paul Richardson on 06 June 2022, 10:55:06 AM
Interesting. As an aside, I wonder whether Avanpost figures are sculpted digitally.

I rather like the look of some of the buildings which accompany the range, by the way. I suspect the windows on some of the cottages are a bit too modern, although that's easily fixed, and I like the pele tower and the bastle house.
Title: Re: Flags of War Reivers
Post by: RedRowan on 07 June 2022, 08:19:33 PM
Very tempted by this KS myself, miniatures look very nice. I think the sculptor is Rob Macfarlane who also did the Wargames Atlantic Conquistadors.

Steve