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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Silent Invader on June 16, 2022, 09:56:17 AM
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Index:
P.1 Rocky outcrops finished
P.2 Boards design & WIP
P.3 Boards finished
P.3-4 Board storage
P.4 Watermill WIP
P.5 Finished watermill, log bridge, trees
P.6 Haystacks WIP
P.7 Finished Haystacks
A new thread from me to hold my generic terrain pieces, which otherwise tend to get lost deep inside a project thread.
My main projects encompass LotR, ECW, 17thC Scots, 1875 Invasion of England, and Sci-Fi, each of which will use some or all of these pieces. Items specific to a project will continue to go into the relevant project thread.
First up are some rocky outcrops, which are a repaint and reflock of outcrops made for a long since abandoned Nappy Peninsular War project. They are made from broken up bottle corks and plaster. I’m not worried about the genre-specific accuracy or otherwise of the ‘dry’ soil colour, as I just like the way it sets off the figures.
The outcrops will serve for 1650 Scotland and probably for Sci-Fi. Should the 1875 German Invasion break out of Sussex, Surrey and Essex, with action around Tunbridge Wells, then the outcrops might also serve for Harrison’s Rocks (as a backdrop to the railway line and river that run parallel).
Five large and 4 small:
NB: They are sat on the unfinished terrain boards that I am in the throes of making
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-160622083210-55678699.jpeg)
Closeups:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-160622083210-556771023.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-160622083210-55676145.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-160622083209-55675782.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-160622083209-556741134.jpeg)
I’ll add more info on the terrain boards when I’ve made more progress.
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Those look great my 18mm Nap table needs some of those
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They look great.
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They look very good.
I especially like that you have made 8 matching pieces in various sizes so that you can cover a good part of the table. :)
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Nicely done :)
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Thanks all - much appreciated :)
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That’s a “proper job”…. good work mate 8)
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Very nice. I like the variation in the foliage, it adds so much to the overall result.
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Perfect, great colours!
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Cracking work :-*
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Those rock... lol
Very useful - also like the bridge.
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Very nice. I like the variation in the foliage, it adds so much to the overall result.
I agree- it really makes ground cover so much more realistic.
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You've got some stones!
Apart from the bad pun, great bit of terrain!
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Thanks all. :)
I’ll post more on the bridge when I’ve finished the boards.
Regarding the ground cover ‘flock’, it is made up from the following mix of products and proportions:
WS = Woodland Scenics; J = Javis
2 of WS Coarse Turf Burnt Grass T62 (353 cm3)
2 of WS Coarse Turf Yellow Grass T61 (353 cm3)
8 of J Static Grass No 2 Summer Mix 2mm JHG2
1 of J Static Grass No 1 Spring Mix 2mm JHG1
1 of J Scatter No 10 Light Meadow Green JS10
1 of J Scatter No 12 Dark Green JS12
It all goes into a big bag and is shook-up before being patted onto PVA (with the excess brushed off when dry)
The tufts are by Gamers Grass.
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Marvellous :)
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I’ve been making progress with the generic terrain boards; there are 4 though only 3 are in these photos (CDA):
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622202040.jpeg)
These use 600mm x 1200mm x 50mm thick grey rigid foam, by Panel Systems. I bought a carton of 6 so I have 2 spare for ‘special projects’, whenever and whatever they might be.
My boards will be flat rather than contoured, so largish terrain items can sit level when placed on them; thus there won’t be any elevations (such as fixed hills) but there can be depressions (such as a fixed river).
The 4 panels, three with roads/tracks and a fourth with a river crossing plus a ford or watering place, were marked out, then the recesses cut out.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622192219-55708772.jpeg)
A gauge was used to arrive at a fairly level river surface (note river surface, not river bed):
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622192219-55710601.jpeg)
The bridge sits on recessed pedestals, with the bridge being removable for storage or to be blown:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622192219-557111123.jpeg)
The river bed was plastered and sanded, albeit not completely smooth as I want some rise and fall to suggest movement:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622192220-557121931.jpeg)
The basics of the bridge pedestals:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622192220-557131505.jpeg)
And with green stuff added:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622193556-5571489.jpeg)
And the bridge test fitted:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622193556-557151832.jpeg)
With sieved Sharp Sand glued in place to create ground cover:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622193853-557191951.jpeg)
With Kiln Dried Sand glued on to the tracks and river bank, the tracks being brought up to the level of the ground cover and scored for track and transit marks:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622193557-5571717.jpeg)
The bridge bedded-into the terrain:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622193557-557181670.jpeg)
A couple of views of my hamlet in situ, showing how it’s tracks overlay the boards’ tracks:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622193854-557201119.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-210622193854-557211048.jpeg)
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They’re gonna look great :)
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Yes, if they are anything like your villages, they'll be amazing!
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cool set up - what scale is the bridge? Is it bought or did you make it?
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Thanks all :)
what scale is the bridge? Is it bought or did you make it?
It’s for 28mm and is by Debris Of War:
https://www.debrisofwar.com/store/p321/28mm_Stone_bridge.html (https://www.debrisofwar.com/store/p321/28mm_Stone_bridge.html)
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This is going to be brilliant 8)
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I really like how you are doing this- I have dreamt of doing something similar.
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Wonderful work so far! I especially like the way the bridge is embedded in the terrain, yet still removable.
I am in the planning phase of doing several 6'x4' surfaces in different finishes (grassy/verdant, desert, snow, (urban) wasteland) and they'll be in 3 pieces of 120x60cm as well. Previously I made a desert one with integrated elevations (both plus and minus), but I quickly found that even though the board looks really good, it severely limits the placement of scenery items. Meaning that the new ones will be completely flat, with at the most some negative elevations, like a riverbed or canal.
So I'll be taking notes here... :D
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Looking forward to seeing this completed, and maybe even playing on it :)
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@ Deothar
That’s pretty much it 8)
The approach doesn’t work so well for predominantly hilly terrain but I suppose most of what I’m now gaming is set within plateaus and valleys! lol
@ DrDeath
Games are getting closer!!
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Superb, finding this very useful, thanks. Great work! :-*
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Really nice bit of work there - superb!
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Thanks all :)
It’s for 28mm and is by Debris Of War:
https://www.debrisofwar.com/store/p321/28mm_Stone_bridge.html (https://www.debrisofwar.com/store/p321/28mm_Stone_bridge.html)
Even more impressive at that scale - wish dow did 15mm stuff though
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Great seeing this come together. ;D
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It’s 2 weeks or so since I last posted but progress is being made….
The boards received the three paint colours to match my existing terrain:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-040722150053-557942052.jpeg)
And the river surface and bridge plinth were painted, with (so far) 8 coats of gloss varnish being applied:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-040722150053-55793386.jpeg)
I’m holding off on the scattering of flock and static grass until after I’ve finished the river surface
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Your boards look fantastic! I'm planning to do something similar with a dozen boards.
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Your boards look fantastic! I'm planning to do something similar with a dozen boards.
Thanks!
A dozen boards! :o That’ll be some production line - good luck :)
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Coming along nicely :)
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And two weeks later (a week of which I’ve been away) the boards are flocked and finished.
The four boards in a couple of layouts, without the bridge in situ:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722123413-558522151.jpeg)
And a comparison with the bridge slotted into place:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722123413-55851755.jpeg)
A couple of close ups of the river:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722123059-55847478.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722123058-558412396.jpeg)
And with my 17th-19th century village set up:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722124815-55853435.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722124815-55854847.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722124816-558551727.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722124816-55856510.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722124816-55857674.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722125426-55862718.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722125426-558612158.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722125425-558601398.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722125425-558592098.jpeg)
I’ve also modified an older section of removable river onto which I’m going to build a watermill. For the moment a shed is sitting in place….
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722125424-558582457.jpeg)
As well as finishing the mill, I also have msny more trees to base, a railway line to base, a railway station to make, the Manor House to finish, the derelict monastery to finish, the church to finish, and possibly a windmill to make. Plus perhaps some more modern houses for 19thC games, etc.
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Fantastic terrain! Very immersive! Better and better!
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That is an exceptional set of boards, great work!
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Great result 8)
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Beautiful work, it looks so natural :-* :-*
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Top job on those 👍
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The boards look great.
What games do you intend to play on them?
This might be of some interest to you too.Good inspiration for games too.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/timebomb/flintlock-book-six?ref=clipboard-prelaunch
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Thanks all - your feedback is very much appreciated
:D
What games do you intend to play on them?
English Civil War
Victorian Military Fiction (ie Dorking etc, nothing clockwork)
Gothic Horror (ie, vampires and werewolves)
And with different buildings:
17thC Scottish Clans
Sci Fi
Lord of the Rings
Barons War
Post Apoc
Old West
WW2 Sicily
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Started a bit plain, but boy did that turn out a treat! Lovely work on the river and farm patches especially.
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Great work! Those hedges really make the board in my opinion.
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Thanks guys - much appreciated 8)
Started a bit plain
Plain was the plan :)
Basically I wanted the surfaces level for easy storage under the table with all the interest coming from whatever goes on top of the boards.
I forgot to post an image of the under-table storage unit, which looks like this:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-180722203013.jpeg)
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I should add, I didn’t make the hedges, they’re by Debris of War (as is the bridge)
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They've turned out very well indeed, you should be very pleased with them.
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They look super great ;D
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Cheers chaps - very much appreciated
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They look gorgeous and mesh perfectly with your terrain pieces too! :-*
...Plain was the plan :)
Basically I wanted the surfaces level for easy storage under the table with all the interest coming from whatever goes on top of the boards...
This is exactly what I'm planning to do with my table once I get around to building it; a slotted/shelved space underneath for the flat surface elements to be stored. Mine are 120x60cm, and I plan to make several types of terrain; desert, snow, grassy etc. (I only have desert one at present though), and since the table surface will be at about 110 to 120 cm (to accomodate standing while gaming), there should be plenty of space underneath.
Great to see somebody else having the same idea 8)
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They look gorgeous and mesh perfectly with your terrain pieces too! :-*
This is exactly what I'm planning to do with my table once I get around to building it; a slotted/shelved space underneath for the flat surface elements to be stored. Mine are 120x60cm, and I plan to make several types of terrain; desert, snow, grassy etc. (I only have desert one at present though), and since the table surface will be at about 110 to 120 cm (to accomodate standing while gaming), there should be plenty of space underneath.
Great to see somebody else having the same idea 8)
Thanks!
Your project sounds great; good luck with it 8)
My playable height is 87cm. The table is a 6ft pool table so comes in at slightly less than 4ft width. The max three boards that can sit on it are each 120cm x 60 cm.
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These are amazing looking boards and I think I've dreamt of that storage solution at least a couple of times myself. :-*
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Well done.
This is a very nicely explained project and a wonderful result. :-*
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I forgot to post an image of the under-table storage unit, which looks like this:
Is there an easily accessible manufacturer? I assume you added more levels yourself, but the base seems solid.
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Thank all - much appreciated:)
Is there an easily accessible manufacturer? I assume you added more levels yourself, but the base seems solid.
Yes, indeed: IKEA
It’s made from two LACK coffee tables which I discovered when looking for something else.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-200722121410.jpeg)
The finished unit uses 2 table tops (the extra one is for the base) plus 4 of IKEA’s wheels. It also uses two of the legs from the second unit as supports for the extra shelves.
Though it’s more than robust enough in use, be mindful that the cheaper IKEA units (such as this) do not have a solid core: this one has corrugated cardboard centres albeit with wood at its structural points.
I’ll be honest that it was perhaps quite ‘lazy’ to make the storage unit in this way but the speed and simplicity appealed to me as I had so much else on my To Do list.
Here it is before the extra shelves were added, in which case it could take 6 of the 120x60 foam panels (note that the panels are slightly longer than the unit but that doesn’t bother me).
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-200722121134-55863822.jpeg)
And with the extra shelves fitted:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-200722122950.jpeg)
As I didn’t want to drill through the table top, the central posts are merely glued at top and bottom.
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Thanks, that's really helpful. 8)
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Great looking board and storage.
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Great job Steve.
I particularly like the fields with different strips of cultivation, ploughing etc. So much better than the dreaded squares of brown doormat beloved of so many wargamers ;)
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Thanks all.
It’s interesting how so many comments have been about what sits on the boards rather than being about the boards themselves. This is a good thing, as the boards are just backgrounds to knit together the various terrain features that sit atop them.
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My latest generic piece (which will be used for ECW and Victoriana, amongst other things) is a watermill.
The original piece was a river section from my old table, now too small for my new table. Rather than make it bigger, I chopped it to fit into a corner. Here it is with an outhouse marking the intended location of the mill.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-051022111506-56567108.jpeg)
And here is the latest stage of the WIP:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-051022111506-565681763.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-051022111506-565691082.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-051022111507-565701698.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-051022111507-5657171.jpeg)
The main building is a modified Tableshop Workshop cottage (with big doors taken from a TW barn), Wills tiles for the roof and various bits from a Games Workshop lake-town house kit. The sluice and decks are all from the GW kit, apart from the wheel, which is a 3D print.
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That's fantastic! What a great solution you've come up with. The attention to detail with the sluice is great too.
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That is some really tidy work; I thought the building was a commercial kit, not a kit bash: amazing!
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That works well 8)
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Really excellent, a superb addition. :-*
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Thanks all. This morning’s changes have included extending the track a tad, and adding some trees plus an angled support for the axle bearing.
Tomorrow should see the addition of sand for texture etc
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I’ve finished a few more generic (as in, multiple project) terrain bits.
The watermill:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075732-567021345.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075732-567011893.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075702-567001239.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075702-566991419.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075702-56698870.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075701-56697471.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075701-56696617.jpeg)
The log bridge as a ‘lift out’ alternative to the stone bridge:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075546-566931331.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075546-566949.jpeg)
Some stands of evergreen trees (I have similar stands of deciduous):
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075546-56691999.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022075546-56692759.jpeg)
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Another tremendous piece of terrain. I like the realism you achieve with your pieces.
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Great job on the watermill Steve (I must post pics of mine!!)
All your latest terrain hangs together incredibly well.
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Top job👍
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Love the water mill and the sluice gate! :-*
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Thanks folks. With the village, watermill, etc now done I was at a bit of a loss as to how I might extend the village to create more of a town. I do think the OSHIROMODELterrain medieval house might part of the solution:
https://oshiromodels.wixsite.com/oshiromodelswebshop/product-page/me01-medieval-town-house (https://oshiromodels.wixsite.com/oshiromodelswebshop/product-page/me01-medieval-town-house)
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Absolutely, I have the Oshiro buildings and they are excellent.
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Brilliant work, as always mate! 👍
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That is a stunning piece - love the realism.
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Nice! I particularly like the sluice gate.
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You've finished that off really wonderfully. I like how you have got it too fit in with your existing terrain boards perfectly.
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Beautiful work - I can feel myself being tempted away from teddy bear mats :)
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Thanks all. Comments much appreciated :)
In terms of other generic terrain pieces I have on the go, there’s the Manor House, the derelict monastery and a small church. I really ought finish the church - the village needs one - but the two larger pieces have greater ‘fun’ potential :D
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Lovely :)
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Great job all around, that is the kind of terrain I aspire to, but haven’t reached.
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Thanks - comments appreciated
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Lovely work, Steve. :-* :-* :-*
Looking forward for what next.
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I just found this thread and I'm stunned. That board and the scatter pieces are beautiful! I don't have the time to read everything, so maybe there is somewhere written, but how did you flock it? I love those realistic, desaturated colors!
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Thanks folks - here’s the mix I use:
Regarding the ground cover ‘flock’, it is made up from the following mix of products and proportions:
WS = Woodland Scenics; J = Javis
2 of WS Coarse Turf Burnt Grass T62 (353 cm3)
2 of WS Coarse Turf Yellow Grass T61 (353 cm3)
8 of J Static Grass No 2 Summer Mix 2mm JHG2
1 of J Static Grass No 1 Spring Mix 2mm JHG1
1 of J Scatter No 10 Light Meadow Green JS10
1 of J Scatter No 12 Dark Green JS12
It all goes into a big bag and is shook-up before being patted onto PVA (with the excess brushed off when dry)
The tufts are by Gamers Grass.
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Thanks folks - here’s the mix I use:
Thanks!
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Smallish update:some haystacks and a handcart full of hay.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/2031-181222210621.jpeg)
Edit: These are made from poundstore paintbrush bristles, stuck with UHU to a cork former, then trimmed with scissors before being soaked with dilute exterior-grade PVA to tie down the loose bits.
These are now in the painting queue. They are primarily for use with the 17thC Scottish project (thus the Bloody Miniatures mini as a size comparator) having been influenced by a scene from Rob Roy:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/2031-181222210925.jpeg)
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Thanks all - your feedback is very much appreciated
:D
And with different buildings:
WW2 Sicily
Great work
Would love to see this setup
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Great work
Would love to see this setup
I’ve yet to put together a full terrain set for the Sicily project. It is a really slow burn with only British airlanding painted, so not yet ready to game. That said, terrain wise I have
Olive grove
House
Rocky outcrops
Trees
Destroyed monastery (still WIP)
When the last item is completed it’ll feel like I’ve enough terrain for a board, which will no doubt encourage me to paint Germans.
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Sounds great
Working on a setup myself but no where near your standard
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Sounds great
Working on a setup myself but no where near your standard
Your SRS project? That’s looking good 8)
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The haystacks are fantastic - going to have to copy these :)
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Great haystacks Steve 8)
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Thanks chaps :)
going to have to copy these :)
There are lots of ways to do it, including just stacking the bristles and gluing them with PVA if they’re the right colour to start with, or gluing with PVA with paint mixed in. I used UHU over cork formers as it’s quick, though messy (hairy fingers!) and I was intending to paint the haystacks to match my other terrain:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/2031-201222052030.jpeg)
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That poor brush! Still, it died for a higher cause and the haystacks look great.
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Lol
Finished haystacks:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/57/2031-281222141716.jpeg)
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They look good :)
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Those look great! They will add a nice touch to games. Just curious, which regions and time periods are this sort of haystack suitable for? I know next to nothing about historical farming techniques. These seem like an easy scenic feature to add, but I try to avoid really out of place features in games!
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Thanks. I’ll be using them for games ranging from Medieval (13thC) through to Victorian (19thC). As far as I’m concerned they’re good for any field farming environment pre wide-scale mechanisation.
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That makes a lot of sense. I certainly wouldn’t quibble about seeing those on most pre-WW2 battle fields (actually, aren’t haystacks like that in one of the Ardennes battle scenes in Band of Brothers? The US assault on the village).
Thanks for posting pics of the WIP and finished versions!
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So yes, extend that range to mid 20thc :D
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Nice stacks. They're suitable well up to mid 20th C as rectangular bales came into use about then with round bales in the late 60s and early 70s, from what I recall.