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Title: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: Silent Invader on 10 October 2009, 08:42:35 PM
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "Transport Build"
Post by: odd duck on 11 October 2009, 03:24:03 AM
RATS!! I was silly enough to believe i was the only one thinking along these lines. Fortunately I'm thinking about a differant era and continent .Good Luck
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "Transport Build"
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 11 October 2009, 10:42:59 AM
I like harbour models, there are so many different things that can be included. They are always an inspiration  8)  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "Transport Build"
Post by: fastolfrus on 11 October 2009, 01:26:40 PM
Might be worth looking at "John Adams" for some harbour details too.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 13 October 2009, 07:08:20 PM
Looks promising  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: Captain Blood on 13 October 2009, 08:06:11 PM
Ah, now I was down at Lamorna just a few weeks ago, and that shed does look a bit like the boathouse where they now run the kayaking from!

And glad to hear you're going for coffee stirrers for planking.
Terrain builders of the world - let Starbucks subsidise your hobby! (It's the price they pay for global brand domination...  ;) )
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: fastolfrus on 13 October 2009, 10:41:22 PM
Apart from the mini series it's worth looking for the documentary about the making of the series - includes (if I remember properly) interviews with set designers etc.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: Admiral Benbow on 13 October 2009, 10:56:13 PM
Nice planning approach, Invader. Looks really promising ...
 ;D
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: gamer Mac on 14 October 2009, 09:00:45 AM
Nice idea
Looking forward to seeing the build.

And glad to hear you're going for coffee stirrers for planking.
Terrain builders of the world - let Starbucks subsidise your hobby! (It's the price they pay for global brand domination...  ;) )
I need to start drinking more coffee I used up my total store of coffee stirrers on my build. (a grand total of 2)
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: Hammers on 14 October 2009, 10:37:38 AM
Lovely. No mast crane?
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: Dewbakuk on 14 October 2009, 11:08:33 AM
Quote
Terrain builders of the world - let Starbucks subsidise your hobby!

They're easier to steal from Ikea restaurants, they have vast amounts of them out on those islands with the condiments. I have lots :)
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: gamer Mac on 19 October 2009, 12:56:43 PM
Go with idea 3) but around the groove you cut in the base of the harbour glue some tree moss/Scotchbright pad to make a small bush that can move slightly up and down to accomodate the change in river/lake bank size thus hide any little gaps.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: gamer Mac on 27 October 2009, 01:22:52 PM
WOW more planning.  :D
And now it help because this time I understand what you are doing. ;D
It is going to be a very versatile board when you are finished :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: Traveler Man on 28 October 2009, 03:13:46 PM
What an excellent scheme and planning, sir! I'm looking forward to the final result.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour"
Post by: aircav on 02 November 2009, 11:01:33 AM
Looking good Steve  :D, I'm expecting great things of this build  :D


Keith  :?
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System"
Post by: Captain Blood on 03 November 2009, 08:08:38 PM

Having worked out where I would store them, I bought 5 of the 1200mm x 500mm x 500mm pink styrofoam panels from B&Q at £3.78 each.

Moving over to a foam panel system means that I will be able to sink the water into the table, which will add absolutely nothing to the mechanics of gaming but which will be (for me) more aesthetically pleasing.


Good man! Quite right. You won't regret it  ;)

The plans look fiendishly complicated to me, but your scientific approach seems to pay dividends, so I'm sure this will work out beautifully.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System"
Post by: aircav on 04 November 2009, 07:40:06 AM
OH NO! More plans to confuse everyone  lol

This is going to be an epic project now Steve  :D


Keith  :?
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System"
Post by: gamer Mac on 04 November 2009, 08:24:36 AM
Believe it or not I am starting to understand your plans now. It must be all the past experience of them. o_o
In your plans you could introduce even more complicated arrangements by buy cutting the board length to 1000mm. This would allow two boards side by side to match up with one placed length ways along the top or bottom. The mind boggles about the amount of combinations with five boards. ;D ;D ;D
I will leave that to you to work out :D
 
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System"
Post by: former user on 04 November 2009, 06:53:25 PM
Riverworld here Ye come!
"not for rent", Captain Clemens ;) :D
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System"
Post by: gamer Mac on 05 November 2009, 08:36:26 AM
Looking good :-*
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System"
Post by: Barry S on 05 November 2009, 08:54:59 AM
I'm quite looking forward to seeing the end result :D
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System"
Post by: odd duck on 06 November 2009, 05:10:12 PM
looks really good :-*nice work on the hoist. I'm looking forward to seeing this one finished ;D
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System"
Post by: Hammers on 06 November 2009, 08:38:23 PM
Chappie raises standards above and beyond. Fellow might have  to get cracking with own project, whatwhat.  :-[
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (BARN & PEN CONSTRUCTED)
Post by: Barry S on 07 November 2009, 01:17:46 PM
Inspiring stuff SI.

I particularly like the hoist and small corral.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (BARN & PEN CONSTRUCTED)
Post by: Captain Blood on 07 November 2009, 01:37:54 PM
Very nice buildings  :)
Looking forward to seeing this all come together.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (BARN & PEN CONSTRUCTED)
Post by: Malamute on 07 November 2009, 02:07:24 PM
Very nice buildings  :)
Looking forward to seeing this all come together.

Wot he said. :)
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (STARTED BOARDS)
Post by: Calimero on 10 November 2009, 11:13:50 PM

Looking good 8)
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (STARTED BOARDS)
Post by: gamer Mac on 11 November 2009, 08:40:59 AM
Coming on great :-* :-*
I still find it strange when you use the felt for the water.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (STARTED BOARDS)
Post by: Malamute on 11 November 2009, 12:01:00 PM
Very intriguing with the felt idea.

 So far its looking excellent and I really hope the felt works out ok. I can't see how its not going to look like felt covered with varnish  ???

Fingers crossed for you as so far I have really liked all your projects. :)
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (STARTED BOARDS)
Post by: Traveler Man on 16 November 2009, 07:41:03 PM
It's always worrying to see the white when using varnish as a water effect. I used Future/Klear polish for a project and found it's all down to allowing it time to set/dry. Rest assured, it will turn clear.  :)
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (STARTED BOARDS)
Post by: odd duck on 17 November 2009, 04:14:35 PM
Looking Great :o S.I you've got some excelent ideas.I'm listening closely on the water subject,I've never had to model any water feature bigger than a puddle,and my entry is 40% water feature!!!hope everything works out , Good Luck
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (VARNISH UNDERWAY)
Post by: former user on 19 November 2009, 11:28:49 AM
I can see a white lake

was that intended?

I'm a bit puzzled....
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (VARNISH UNDERWAY)
Post by: gamer Mac on 19 November 2009, 11:31:33 AM
The close up of the shore where the varnish has dried looks really good, realistic.
Hopefully the rest will dry out the same.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (VARNISH UNDERWAY)
Post by: Malamute on 19 November 2009, 11:40:02 AM
The close up of the shore where the varnish has dried looks really good, realistic.
Hopefully the rest will dry out the same.

I agree, it certanly gives the impression of moving water. fingers crossed it dries clear.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (VARNISH UNDERWAY)
Post by: Dewbakuk on 19 November 2009, 02:08:16 PM
My only concern would be that the new layer will prevent the original one from drying... I know it's an easy thing to say but thinner layers dry faster.
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (VARNISH UNDERWAY)
Post by: Grimm on 19 November 2009, 08:09:19 PM
what can I say that atuff is so interesting aand you are realy a master terrain maker !
very good work
Grimm
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (VARNISH UNDERWAY)
Post by: aircav on 20 November 2009, 07:55:24 AM
Thats a fantastic job Steve. You've done yourself proud  :D :D

I really hope that thevarnish is drying clear


Keith  :?
Title: Re: Silent Invader's "18thC Harbour & River System" (VARNISH UNDERWAY)
Post by: former user on 20 November 2009, 02:22:18 PM
try drilling holes from the underside IMHO
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU PRE-GREENSTUFF)
Post by: former user on 30 November 2009, 03:36:09 PM
I am really amazed at the amount of work You are putting into this project.
I draw my hat at this perseverence.
And all turns out nicely too  ;)
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU PRE-GREENSTUFF)
Post by: marianas_gamer on 30 November 2009, 08:30:49 PM
Love the boats and especially that they can accommodate the minis with ease, great project in general!
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU PRE-GREENSTUFF)
Post by: former user on 01 December 2009, 09:26:39 AM
sorry to complain, but the yoke of the cart has to sit on the shoulders of the mule, between bladebone and neck
in that position You either kill the mule or the Yoke slips off the back
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU PRE-GREENSTUFF)
Post by: former user on 01 December 2009, 11:28:19 AM
pleased to be of use  ;)

btw, that is how we (archaeologists) find out if an animal was used for draft : usually the scapula has grown extra cartilage mass to extend the angle of the muscles due to heavy work
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU PRE-GREENSTUFF)
Post by: Dewbakuk on 01 December 2009, 01:03:57 PM
pleased to be of use  ;)

btw, that is how we (archaeologists) find out if an animal was used for draft : usually the scapula has grown extra cartilage mass to extend the angle of the muscles due to heavy work

Does cartilage not decay along with the muscles then? I'd have assumed it would rot.
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU PRE-GREENSTUFF)
Post by: former user on 01 December 2009, 04:03:05 PM
with age
and a lifelong hard work, cartilage solidifies to a bony mass (ossification)
our ribcage e.g. is cartilageous in the front, but gets stiff with age
that's why old people are breathing heavily, because it is less flexible

if You find the skeleton of an old man, the ventral rib parts will be preserved because the cartilage has ossificated.
same with a draft animal - these are usually kept longer (training, muscles) and get old
slaughter animals are raised only up to full growth, thus most cartilage isn't preserved

this is the short version...
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU PRE-GREENSTUFF)
Post by: aircav on 02 December 2009, 08:30:34 AM
This is coming on Brilliantly Steve  :D :-* :D :-*

former user: Wow thats a fantastic peice of information, it always amazes me what jobs & information you find out on forums  :D


Keith  :?
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU PRE-GREENSTUFF)
Post by: odd duck on 02 December 2009, 11:42:47 PM
Great work S.I :o :o Love your boats i wish I had more time to study this thread , been only able to skim through on coffee breaks at work.Home time has been spent trying to meet the deadline,waiting for varnish to dry at the moment!I lookk forward to seeing your finished entry
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU PRE-GREENSTUFF)
Post by: Captain Blood on 03 December 2009, 09:29:46 PM
Resign yourself to the fact that your water may never clear entirely. My river is still slightly cloudy in places where I poured too thickly. The top's gone off, the deeper level has stayed slightly opaque. Not bad, but not quite as I'd have wished...  :'(
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU PRE-GREENSTUFF)
Post by: gamer Mac on 04 December 2009, 10:13:24 AM
I never noticed the problems when I seen your boards in the flesh. :-* :-* :-*
You are just being over critical :D

Good luck Silent Invader after all this lovely work you must post an entry to the competition.
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU READY TO PAINT)
Post by: former user on 04 December 2009, 04:51:31 PM
really brillant

such devotion....
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU READY TO PAINT)
Post by: Grimm on 06 December 2009, 10:56:16 AM
what can I say ?
ou are a genius man I salute you.

top work

Grimm
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (CART, CANOES, BATEAU READY TO PAINT)
Post by: Barry S on 07 December 2009, 02:55:21 AM
Great work!! I'm really enjoying watching the progress of your project.

I REALLY like your canoes and Bateau, they're brilliant  :-*
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 15th December)
Post by: former user on 15 December 2009, 04:18:42 PM
apart from the white, I consider Your river very convincing.
It looks a bit muddy though - have You considered transparent colours?
there are special acrylic additives that make the colour semi-transparent
maybe You should try that, in order to give it a bit of a streaming structure?
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 15th December)
Post by: Captain Blood on 15 December 2009, 04:57:23 PM
When you get that shine on the water from a low angle, it looks bloomin' marvellous SI.
 
It's just a darn shame about the cloudiness  :(

Sadly, I know how you feel.

Hey ho - it may yet clear... I wonder if it would make any difference if you applied heat, like a warm hairdryer... It might help it go off. Worth a try?  ::)

(Please don't melt your styrene though!  I'd never forgive myself lol)
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 15th December)
Post by: odd duck on 15 December 2009, 06:48:59 PM
Glad to see you're still updating us on this project!!I love the finished canoes :-*
the way you used greenstuff for the details is a technique I wished I'd new about when i started on my san -pans and Junk.It'll come in handy in the future though, Thanks!Hope your varnish clears up OK and soon
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 15th December)
Post by: white knight on 16 December 2009, 05:10:27 PM
Well, if the worst should happen and it never clears, wouldn't it be possible to make it a winter themed board? If it's frozen water, it doesn't matter that it looks white.
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 15th December)
Post by: Malamute on 16 December 2009, 05:19:05 PM
Its been great to see this come together and its looking superb (fingers crossed for the varnish).
The fact that you have scratch built everything down to the boats, canoes, hay wagon etc makes it even more appealing. Truly wonderful. ;D
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 15th December)
Post by: Admiral Benbow on 17 December 2009, 09:22:47 AM
SI, I followed your project with great interest and admired your tremendous abilities as boat builder and canoe craftsman. Keep on the good work, and I'm sure you will have many fantastic gaming hours on that table!
 :-*
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 24/12 REPAINTS & CLOSE-UPS)
Post by: Hauptgefreiter on 26 December 2009, 02:41:31 PM
This is extremely cool!  :-*
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 24/12 REPAINTS & CLOSE-UPS)
Post by: gamer Mac on 26 December 2009, 05:24:53 PM
Very, very nice :-* :-*
Glad to see the water getting there!
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 24/12 REPAINTS & CLOSE-UPS)
Post by: Poiter50 on 27 December 2009, 12:55:48 AM
Love the way the water is showing the contents of the murky depths!  :)
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 24/12 REPAINTS & CLOSE-UPS)
Post by: former user on 27 December 2009, 07:46:17 AM
ah, patience allways works out ;)
it really looks - 1A
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 24/12 REPAINTS & CLOSE-UPS)
Post by: Traveler Man on 28 December 2009, 10:56:27 PM
Excellent work! The varnish does take a heart-stopping length of time to cure in clear form, but as you can see, the result is worth it.  :)
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 24/12 REPAINTS & CLOSE-UPS)
Post by: oxiana on 08 January 2010, 04:51:35 PM
How has the river cured? Clear yet?
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated 24/12 REPAINTS & CLOSE-UPS)
Post by: matakishi on 08 January 2010, 05:47:47 PM
An excellent effect.

This one in particular really looks like water.

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/imagebucket_2006/wargaming/harbour_jetty_08.jpg)
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated photos 8th Jan 2010)
Post by: Haarken on 08 January 2010, 10:01:03 PM
Wow! I've been following the progress of these boards for a while and whilst impressed by the incredibly high standard of craftsmanship put into the individual pieces but I really have to say that the whole thing is so much more than the sum of it's parts. This is definitely some of the most beautiful gaming terrain that I have ever seen, I can't wait to see the rest of the pieces for this board. Keep up the great work.  :)

Haarken
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated photos 8th Jan 2010)
Post by: aircav on 11 January 2010, 07:56:48 AM
Superb job Steve  :D :-* :D :-* :D :-* :D :-*
Title: Re: SI's "18thC Harbour & River System" (updated photos 8th Jan 2010)
Post by: oxiana on 11 January 2010, 09:25:38 AM
This is looking great - the 'decorated'' table is superb.

Interesting to hear how the varnish drying is going, as I'm looking at something similar later in the year, and am weighing up the options.
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: Aaron on 12 February 2010, 01:55:07 PM
It really looks fantastic, even sans vegetation. You will have some roaring games I am sure. I like seeing the two Simons (Girty and Kenton) from Conquest on it also.
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: former user on 12 February 2010, 04:30:46 PM
simply...
exciting

now You need a poster for the wall
something from canada or alaska
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: Barry S on 12 February 2010, 11:21:51 PM
That looks great  :-* :-* :-*

Look forward to the battle reports   :)
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: Haarken on 13 February 2010, 08:14:37 AM
An absolutely fantastic board, it's been a real pleasure to watch this project as it progresses and grows, all your planning and research seems to have really paid off as you've ended up with a beautiful finished product. I look forward to seeing the progress on the fort.

Haarken  :)
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: Mainly28s on 13 February 2010, 09:50:58 AM
Simply amazing. I wish I had a fraction of the talent and patience that went into this.
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: white knight on 13 February 2010, 10:04:04 AM
Well done. Well done.
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 13 February 2010, 02:34:35 PM
That's a grand set up you've got there, anyone would be proud to have it  :)

One thing I will suggest is a bit more of a lighter drybrush on the roads, just to give them a bit of a lift but other than that, cracking  :-*  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: gamer Mac on 13 February 2010, 09:14:23 PM
Great work :-* :-* :-*
It has been a pleasure to watch this from start to finish.
Keep up the good work.
Looking forward to some battle reports.
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: former user on 03 March 2010, 11:14:57 PM
@former user
Hmmm a poster as backdrop sounds like a good idea.  I shall have to look for one.  As it happens I intend to leave the table in place over the next few weeks or so to motivate me in the painting of minis.  Before the end of the month I hope to have had a game on it as well.

there are quite a few backdrops available for railway modelling.
if You can't find one send me a PM and I'll search for some german links
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: former user on 04 March 2010, 12:00:21 PM
we made a quite primitive backdrop for a club presentation, which was structured blue wallpaper pasted on a MDF board and supported with bookends from the side.
But we also thought about railway backdrops, and there are so many available, we could not make a decision on short notice ;)
Title: Re: SI’s 18th Century Harbour Finally Finished 12th Feb - WARNING 25+ images
Post by: Traveler Man on 08 April 2010, 03:51:22 PM
A masterpiece!  :-* It's been a real treat watching your progress from start to finish. Anyone would be proud to game on it.