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Title: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Mr. White on 01 August 2022, 02:05:13 AM
It seems like the other games published by the same author had expansions in the pipe almost as soon as the corebook dropped. Frostgrave 2nd ed, Stargrave, and Oathmark all have supplemental books.

Is there anything in the cooker for Silver Bayonet?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Easy E on 01 August 2022, 06:51:28 PM
I noticed that too. 

Silver Bayonet is way more interesting than Stargrave, and won more awards to boot.  lol

I have a feeling Osprey was not as confident with the sales numbers, and were slower to get on the expansion band wagon.  Maybe once Stargrave has runs its planned course, we will see some more? 
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Khusru2 on 06 August 2022, 05:52:19 PM
From what I've seen, or rather not seen, it looks like it has died a death. The amount of postings about SB is much less than most other games from Osprey. The initial take up was good but with no immediate follow-up it may be hard to revive interest
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Archduke of Earl on 09 August 2022, 03:53:58 AM
I hope that the game finds a second wind, although I'm a bit dismayed at the drop-off in posts. I believe the chief lack is in scenarios. The ones in the book are all sort of samey, except for the solo ones. I'm thinking perhaps that a better sense of horror would be had by having side-by-side tables with each being a solo scenario - one unit versus the monsters - and each player runs their unit on one table and has carte blanche control of the monsters on the other.

I will be running a home-made scenario on Wednesday for my club, with British and French patrols entering a woods in the Vendee hunting to rescue/apprehend a British spy. Unbeknownst to the patrols, the woods contain lots of surprises - a hungry Ogre (aka hobgoblin), a group of Vendean rebels (bandits to the French but neutral to the British unless fired upon), and finally an octet of Goblins intent on making sure no humans make off with the Crown of the Goblin King which is concealed in a hawthorn bush next to the Stone Circle.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on 12 August 2022, 05:23:22 AM
Perhaps an Old West variant:

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=121801.0

Dan
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: 3Fingers2 on 12 August 2022, 02:44:40 PM
What about wynonna Earp Wild West themed with black powder pistol in modern times .
I fancied doing a monster blood tattoo themed sliver bayonet , with beastmen heads on kroot bodies for nicker  monsters.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: v_lazy_dragon on 12 August 2022, 03:18:17 PM
Perhaps an Old West variant:

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=121801.0

Dan
Isn't that to most intents and purposes Dracula's America though?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: tikitang on 12 August 2022, 03:27:38 PM
Isn't that to most intents and purposes Dracula's America though?

I was about to say exactly the same thing!
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 12 August 2022, 05:03:09 PM
I didn’t buy into the specific rules for SB, but man do I love the figures and the whole mashup idea.  It has become our RPG genre of choice. Now if I could just find more women in Napoleonic period garb!

Bad Squiddo, heads up!
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Mr.J on 12 August 2022, 08:40:18 PM
North Star have just announced another wave of minis so can’t be that dead surely?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 12 August 2022, 09:02:03 PM
The official page on FaceBook is still going strong with lots of activity.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Archduke of Earl on 12 August 2022, 10:25:51 PM
Does the designer show any indication that there are more venues for updating information than Facebook, which many folks avoid on principle? The game is dead on TMP, dead on BGG, and on life support here - nor has there been a glimmer of anything other than the occasional figure release through official channels. I like the game very much and want it to stay alive, but they need to step up their game.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Easy E on 12 August 2022, 11:35:21 PM
At the rate SG is coming out with material, it is clear that the writer's focus (and possibly their publisher's) is there.

I find the Silver Bayonet's rules to be much more interesting and innovative than Stargrave, but I also thought Ghost Archipelago was a better ruleset than Frostgrave.  Look which one is way more popular and you get an idea about what I know about people's interests!

 lol
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Sunjester on 13 August 2022, 09:08:46 AM
I didn’t buy into the specific rules for SB, but man do I love the figures and the whole mashup idea.  It has become our RPG genre of choice. Now if I could just find more women in Napoleonic period garb!

Have you looked at Black Pyramid? https://www.blackpyramid.co.uk/collections/regent-z
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on 13 August 2022, 12:35:48 PM
I didn’t buy into the specific rules for SB, but man do I love the figures and the whole mashup idea.  It has become our RPG genre of choice. Now if I could just find more women in Napoleonic period garb!

Bad Squiddo, heads up!

Wargames Atlantic is currently designing a set of Napoleonic Camp followers which I suspect will be mostly, if not all, women. However, how long it will take to get into production is anyone's guess.

https://wargamesatlantic.com/pages/release-schedule

I have been advocating for that set for quite some time and was pleased to see it go from an April Fools joke to, at the very least, a production design.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 13 August 2022, 03:29:56 PM
Wargames Atlantic is currently designing a set of Napoleonic Camp followers which I suspect will be mostly, if not all, women. However, how long it will take to get into production is anyone's guess.

https://wargamesatlantic.com/pages/release-schedule

I have been advocating for that set for quite some time and was pleased to see it go from an April Fools joke to at he very least a production design.

Very interesting!  It seems the cry of 'make it so' has been heard.
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Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 16 August 2022, 07:07:34 PM
I do want some of the Black pyramid figs but often the are oos.  The WA plastic box could be what i really want.  I just bought a box of some Frostgrave plastic female wizards which i hope to modify with a flintlock or two.  Some of the garb might be green stuffed into regency period, but this box will save me a step…any ideas when it will be available? 
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on 17 August 2022, 05:50:30 AM
I do want some of the Black pyramid figs but often the are oos.  The WA plastic box could be what i really want.  I just bought a box of some Frostgrave plastic female wizards which i hope to modify with a flintlock or two.  Some of the garb might be green stuffed into regency period, but this box will save me a step…any ideas when it will be available?

I would guess some time in 2023 but that really is a wild guess. It is impossible to predict WGA launch dates as some sets have been in design longer than others that have already been released. The good news is production is done “in house” in the USA so should be quicker than it was in the past, when they relied on production in China.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Mr. White on 26 August 2022, 03:41:39 PM
I thought I saw that Wargames Atlantic were going to do a box of Spaniards similar to their British Riflemen. Have they come out already and I missed 'em?

EDIT: here's the post I saw - https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/work-in-progress-napoleonic-spanish
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Sunjester on 26 August 2022, 05:15:28 PM
I do want some of the Black pyramid figs but often the are oos.  The WA plastic box could be what i really want.  I just bought a box of some Frostgrave plastic female wizards which i hope to modify with a flintlock or two.  Some of the garb might be green stuffed into regency period, but this box will save me a step…any ideas when it will be available?
It might be worth emailing Plack Pyramid with what you want, I have found them very helpful in the past (but not the speediest at replying).
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Sarmor on 09 September 2022, 09:57:14 AM
Osprey posted a short rundown of TSB on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CiApe_OoKT_/
At the end they mention two possible expansions to be released next year - one about Carpathia and one about Canada.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 09 September 2022, 03:32:25 PM
At the end they mention two possible expansions to be released next year - one about Carpathia and one about Canada.

Ooh, two very good choices!
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on 11 September 2022, 03:41:58 AM
Indeed.  I have some log cabins that could be used in a Canadian or US scenario.

Dan
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Matakakea on 13 September 2022, 03:46:51 PM
Excellent news there Sarmor.  :P
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Easy E on 13 September 2022, 07:33:49 PM
Looking forward to some North American action......War of 1812 with Goblins anyone?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Sarmor on 27 September 2022, 03:54:59 PM
The Carpathian expansion is coming first, on 23rd May: https://www.amazon.com/-/en/Joseph-McCullough/dp/1472858786
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 28 September 2022, 06:06:00 PM

Looking forward to some North American action......War of 1812 with Goblins anyone?

Figures for Wendigo hunting with Northstar Indians just going onto my work table now!
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Veteran Sergeant on 30 September 2022, 04:46:46 AM
Kinda bummed they didn't go with something like Egypt or Arabia, but I can see why they'd want to do America. 

Funny thing is, I did up some Americans for fun, but they're US Marines and Navy because that was the only American unit that made sense could be in Europe, but they wouldn't make sense on the American frontier, lol.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Archduke of Earl on 30 September 2022, 07:16:58 AM
Ah, but there was considerable naval action on the Great Lakes between Britain and the U.S., so your sailors are not really out of place in a Northwest setting.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 30 September 2022, 04:26:52 PM
Lake Champlain is one of the claimants to birthplace of the American Navy in 1775.  Marines fought in the Battle of Sacket's Harbor defending that naval base on Lake Ontario in 1813,  and the Battle of Lake Champlain in 1814 was a joint Army & Navy engagement.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 30 September 2022, 10:43:30 PM
I plan on fielding some Frenchmen in Canada…just a few sent to raise an insurrection but who got caught up in supernatural problems.  If we can envision a French expedition to Ireland, Scotland or Wales, i don’t see too much of a stretch getting small groups of Frenchmen into Canada, New Orleans or the Caribbean.  Northstar has some decent French sailor packs and i think the Dracula’s America voudou cultists could make a fine unit for SB.  i think they only have a few anachronisms in their kit and a kitbashed flintlock pistol might be an easy fix for a six shooter.

US forces in Europe?  i could see a supernatural investigator group landing in Spain or France easy.  These guys are fighting a greater struggle and go where the fiends are.  someone read it in the stars…
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Mr. White on 18 January 2024, 02:54:29 AM
Well… we have Europe (core book), Carpathians, Canada, Egypt, and now Italy.

I guess this game has had a great future since this thread was originally posted.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: anevilgiraffe on 18 January 2024, 10:26:43 AM
Just been reading this thread with some bemusement about how it was dying  lol ;D
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Chairface on 23 January 2024, 04:50:50 PM
Just been reading this thread with some bemusement about how it was dying  lol ;D

The reports of its death are greatly exaggerated  ;)
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Matakakea on 26 January 2024, 01:22:05 PM
Look's like a good excuse to add a few Neapolitans to my collection  :D
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Michi on 26 January 2024, 01:42:54 PM
Just been reading this thread with some bemusement about how it was dying  lol ;D


                                   IT'S ALIVE !!!

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Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 26 January 2024, 08:26:19 PM
So we have Italy and Egypt coming, any word on the possibilities for  South America, Danes/Swedes/Finns, Ireland and UK, West Indies, Greece/Ottoman Empire, or India for settings?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Matakakea on 29 January 2024, 02:03:42 PM
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So we have Italy and Egypt coming, any word on the possibilities for  South America, Danes/Swedes/Finns, Ireland and UK, West Indies, Greece/Ottoman Empire, or India for settings?
No word on any of these as yet, and probably not for some time if at all. Having said that, I have purchased a few Greeks just on the off chance  :D
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: aircav on 29 January 2024, 09:16:59 PM
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So we have Italy and Egypt coming, any word on the possibilities for  South America, Danes/Swedes/Finns, Ireland and UK, West Indies, Greece/Ottoman Empire, or India for settings?
No word on any of these as yet, and probably not for some time if at all. Having said that, I have purchased a few Greeks just on the off chance  :D

Egypt out in May & Italy October if I remember right

https://www.ospreypublishing.com/uk/silver-bayonet-egypt-9781472858863/


Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: joe5mc on 13 February 2024, 03:57:23 PM
Essentially, the game got a little tangled up in my employment with Osprey. It was the last project I did as an 'employee', and I wasn't sure if I would continue with the game afterwards. It took awhile, but Osprey convinced me, and I convinced them to recruit some other help, so now the game has quite a bright future!
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 13 February 2024, 07:07:19 PM
Essentially, the game got a little tangled up in my employment with Osprey. It was the last project I did as an 'employee', and I wasn't sure if I would continue with the game afterwards. It took awhile, but Osprey convinced me, and I convinced them to recruit some other help, so now the game has quite a bright future!

Will any of these new volumes expand into a more RPG like treatment of plot, characterization of  recurring NPCs, and setting? I have yet to see even the first supplement yet to judge (I plan on purchasing a pdf soon), but I would really prefer some heavily fleshed out campaigns rather than just a slightly different version of non-refereed skirmish scenarios with some new monsters.  will any volume expand on the spells available to players?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Chairface on 13 February 2024, 08:37:53 PM
Essentially, the game got a little tangled up in my employment with Osprey. It was the last project I did as an 'employee', and I wasn't sure if I would continue with the game afterwards. It took awhile, but Osprey convinced me, and I convinced them to recruit some other help, so now the game has quite a bright future!

I, for one, am very happy that the game is both continuing with you and that it has grown to the place where it will continue without you as well. I enjoyed Ash's contributions in Canada and I'm eager to see what you have cooked up for Egypt and what is waiting for us in Italy
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Commander Roj on 01 March 2024, 04:09:58 PM
I was looking at some Black Scorpion pirates today and thinking, "Silver Cutlass..." Am I crazy?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: WillieB on 11 August 2024, 10:57:31 AM
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So we have Italy and Egypt coming, any word on the possibilities for  South America, Danes/Swedes/Finns, Ireland and UK, West Indies, Greece/Ottoman Empire, or India for settings?
No word on any of these as yet, and probably not for some time if at all. Having said that, I have purchased a few Greeks just on the off chance  :D

Ireland would be great with Banshees, Kelpies, Fomorians; Abarthach and lots of others
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 11 August 2024, 03:10:07 PM
Ireland for sure, Irish rebellions would make for interesting “mundane” matchups as well.  I have been eyeing the Trent figures(Skytrex) for this period for some time. Very nice sturdy figures.

 I bought a bunch of Trent Haitians and ran a Haitian foray against a French island base at a con recently.  French Aristos leading a cabal of vampire spies supported by French infantry in cahoots with Spanish garrison militia forces of Santo Domingo while Haitians had Royal Navy sailors and marines (led by Jack Aubrey trying to find Maturin who was a prisoner of the French) and a contingent of riflemen (with Sharpe and Harper) as loose allies.  Haitians also had zombi forces controlled by Coco Robicheaux and his band of Voudou cultists in addition to their militia and raggletaggle regulars (Poles!).  Maturin was eaten by an amok zombi, a Welsh witch bitten by a snake she hoped to pick up, gators eating marines…a vampire cultist orgy interrupted by British sailors where a nude Spanish colonel and a dominatrix held off the tars…they might have even joined in as rum, sodomy and the lash were all there,! lol.

A very fun game (The Spanish player won by having the last member standing…). No need to wait on new books…I have pen and paper.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: WillieB on 11 August 2024, 11:07:16 PM
The Trent figures are a bit old school but lovely.
The "revolting slaves" are perfect for a Voodoo cult, and the French infantry ( some even in mirlitons!) are simply superb.
I've got them all, but am now finishing some figures for Egypt ( Brigade Games Dromedaristes) and a fictitious Irish legion in Kleber uniform.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 05 September 2024, 11:32:03 PM
I have Canada (loads of FIW on hand) and Carpathia (loads of vampires and wolves on hand) on the way.
 
I'll be setting my FIW games in Sleepy Hollow, but that's what we call Southern Canada, eh y'all?
 
My vote for the future is the Silver Katana, and then Northstar can add lots of fun yokai!
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 14 January 2025, 03:33:09 AM
Was just taking a closer look through the Carpathian book tonight and realised there was a big missed opportunity — an Ottoman list was not included, drat.  Hopefully that will be remedied somehow in the future. 

Hungarians can get by well enough with the Austrian list, although the Austrians could use a bit more flavour options — they only got 3 special character options to start with instead of they usual 5 for everyone else.  They do have Woodsman now in the Carpathian book, so I don't need to pencil in Rifleman anymore.  I'm still pencilling in Irregular for their 5th (Tyrolean), seems a good one for the Hungarian side of things too (Grenz).
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: aircav on 14 January 2025, 10:02:12 AM
Was just taking a closer look through the Carpathian book tonight and realised there was a big missed opportunity — an Ottoman list was not included, drat.  Hopefully that will be remedied somehow in the future. 

Hungarians can get by well enough with the Austrian list, although the Austrians could use a bit more flavour options — they only got 3 special character options to start with instead of they usual 5 for everyone else.  They do have Woodsman now in the Carpathian book, so I don't need to pencil in Rifleman anymore.  I'm still pencilling in Irregular for their 5th (Tyrolean), seems a good one for the Hungarian side of things too (Grenz).

The Ottoman list is in the Egypt book & in the Italy book there's quite a few new troop types
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 14 January 2025, 03:16:16 PM
The Ottoman list is in the Egypt book & in the Italy book there's quite a few new troop types

The Egyptian list is rather, well, Egyptian flavoured with Bedouin Raiders and Followers of the Old Gods.  I suppose an odd Mameluke or two might make an appearance in Wallachia and Moldavia especially in a Silver Bayonet special force heading into the Carpathians.  And a Dervish as a Champion of Faith would be the choice instead of Old Gods.
 
Don't have Italy yet, still not arrived at the FLGS.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 14 January 2025, 05:57:50 PM
Now that the Italians are out, any ideas which way the next direction the sculpts will take?  As always, more females and some RPG capable “civilians” characters ( they always can serve as maguffins to rescue in a scenario for those not into RPGing with these figs).

I recommend Haiti or New Orleans.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Michi on 14 January 2025, 09:14:43 PM
I recommend Haiti or New Orleans.

Mexican war of independence triggered by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1808 when he took King Ferdinand's throne in Spain? The Hidalgo revolt has a lot of potential for supernatural entanglement...
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Richard from Bruton on 15 January 2025, 08:04:03 AM
Haiti or Mexico would be interesting, but the next book will be 'Britain'. I'm guessing sculpts will accompany that. I'm not sure the scope for expanding factions (unless Scotland and Wales get separate treatment) but there will be plenty to choose from in terms of monsters, I guess.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 15 January 2025, 03:11:35 PM
Haiti or Mexico would be interesting, but the next book will be 'Britain'. I'm guessing sculpts will accompany that. I'm not sure the scope for expanding factions (unless Scotland and Wales get separate treatment) but there will be plenty to choose from in terms of monsters, I guess.

I am happy with this.  Where did you get this tidbit of info?  Are there any more details or pics to be found?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: v_lazy_dragon on 15 January 2025, 03:38:04 PM
Silver Bayonet: Britain has been mentioned a few times on the North Star Facebook page (along with the fact they'll be making models). I think it's set for end of September?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Chairface on 15 January 2025, 03:52:43 PM
I recommend Haiti or New Orleans.

I'll second that. I think that they would go beautifully together
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Richard from Bruton on 15 January 2025, 04:37:38 PM
I am happy with this.  Where did you get this tidbit of info?  Are there any more details or pics to be found?

I saw it trailed on a wargaming blog and it also comes up on Amazon, oddly. Available 25/9/25. The only more info I have is the subtitle: 'The Bones of Albion.' I'm imagining barrow wights, the King Under the Mountain maybe, boggarts and black shucks. Gog and Magog might be nice, but hopefully not the Cerne Abbas giant.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: the commissar on 15 January 2025, 05:12:15 PM
https://www.ospreypublishing.com/uk/osprey-blog/2025/announcing-joseph-a-mccullough-wargames-2025/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR0zagThkTdSHHi-0QHCq3EZhBGpauBaip5HQrmmaizWvLkqTU9CgJzInPU_aem_I6Up3pA5QpF2XTwszUYuGQ

I think this link should go to the Osprey site detailing new stuff for this year in a number of games.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 15 January 2025, 05:48:47 PM
Nice to see…but I am more interested in the new sculpts planned. (I don’t often use the SB rules as I mostly use other rules: FoL and ToBH—but I love the North Star  figs!). Any inkling of that anywhere?  Not that I will be in a rush, I still haven’t gotten through my backlog of painting of units to even start on the Italians that just arrived! 
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: the commissar on 15 January 2025, 06:15:47 PM
There is a teaser on the North Star Facebook page but with the release not until September 2025 it is probably a bit early for any detailed info.

https://www.facebook.com/northstarmilitaryfigures/
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: aircav on 15 January 2025, 07:39:10 PM
There is a teaser on the North Star Facebook page but with the release not until September 2025 it is probably a bit early for any detailed info.

https://www.facebook.com/northstarmilitaryfigures/

A little bit of background detail on here

https://www.ospreypublishing.com/uk/osprey-blog/2025/announcing-joseph-a-mccullough-wargames-2025/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1OJB1GR2tCJPiMfwoiIirpZgXlYF0WzYHcaZNw6ug9CzOXqTmO12Go3UA_aem_DjvcMJGFIiiwVI_aItYP9Q

Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: commissarmoody on 15 February 2025, 04:09:06 AM
Looking forward to SB Briton. And I would love to see an expansion in North America to the South, or New Orleans. You got Pirates(river and ocean verities), Voodoo, American Fronter Milita, regulars, Marines. Along with the Red stick Rebellon, combined with British raids on the coasts. :D
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Matakakea on 17 February 2025, 03:09:22 PM
Not to mention some fantastic food  :P :P
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 17 February 2025, 03:58:15 PM
Upon reflection, I've shifted my druthers in favour of a Nordic expansion.  1808–09, lots of forces involved in the wars there in addition to the Swedes/Finns and Danes/Norwegians — Russians, French, Spanish (regulars), Dutch, British (naval).  Plus any of the other European powers could get special investigation teams there easily enough when the game's afoot.
 
So all the core units fit in naturally to the setting.  Plenty of great lore to bring in, and it's already detailed in the Vaesen RPG for easy reference.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 17 February 2025, 06:36:42 PM
Upon reflection, I've shifted my druthers in favour of a Nordic expansion.  1808–09, lots of forces involved in the wars there in addition to the Swedes/Finns and Danes/Norwegians — Russians, French, Spanish (regulars), Dutch, British (naval).  Plus any of the other European powers could get special investigation teams there easily enough when the game's afoot.
 
So all the core units fit in naturally to the setting.  Plenty of great lore to bring in, and it's already detailed in the Vaesen RPG for easy reference.

Anywhere within reach of the Royal Navy or a company of Rifles is fine with me!
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 17 February 2025, 06:51:54 PM
Anywhere within reach of the Royal Navy or a company of Rifles is fine with me!

I may well consider doing up some Scandinavian buildings sometime after I get my Alpine set done.  Currently working on some nice tall spiky rocky bits for the Alps.
 
Oddly enough, a British (or other) Naval Landing Party would be the best Alpini type unit in this game — Sailors are the only troops that come with the Expert Climbing ability.  Not even Carpathian Woodsmen can climb mountains that good!
 
I'll probably pencil in a change of the Woodsmen's attribute from Fire Starter to Expert Climber.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: anevilgiraffe on 18 February 2025, 09:49:01 AM
by a coinkydink, I was thinking if a naval supplement would be viable... Trafalgar or something... boarding actions, raiding parties, sea based horrors... might not justify a full release, but...
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 18 February 2025, 09:47:52 PM
Yeah, it might get me the excuse to buy a 28mm frigate, sloop or cutter.  I never could quite justify the expense of having to buy two for historical boarding party actions , but repelling Dagon and Deep Ones or worrying about a vampire in the hold is something I could do with one!
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 18 February 2025, 10:23:39 PM
For a single open-frame ship that's perfect for the Ship in the Fog type scenario, I've had my eye on this one for awhile.  Just bought it now because Amazon offered a 15% discount promotion.
 
I might have bought a few other things from this company, but will wait on those.  The current promotion discouraged buying now — it only applied once to the lowest priced item.  By less and save, go fig.
 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V3HNQXF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A38SOH8RBOUI16&psc=1
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: anevilgiraffe on 19 February 2025, 09:10:52 AM
nice, but no good at dock like they have it in their example photos, they've had to put the gang plank into the main cabin. most of that should be below the dock...
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 19 February 2025, 02:15:11 PM
Open architecture is nice in certain cases, but i think Giraffe has it. counterproductive if you desire spectacle. That’s why i am thinking cutters…not much of “below decks”.

This might be a nice side table tool to pullout and replace an on-table ship if the action reaches below decks, but probably essential for A “Last Voyage of the Dementer” sort of scenario.  For that i would probably still just use deck plan maps to keep things hidden from players in  a RPG scenario with a GM

Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 19 February 2025, 02:52:10 PM
I've played in a game with one of these open ships, and it worked quite nicely, even with the vertical tuning askew outside the ship.  Conceptually that may be jarring, but I didn't hear any of the players or spectators commenting on that at all.  Lots of exclamations over how well it worked in gameplay.  The open structure leads the players right into this is not visual realism.  YMMV of course.
 
For the scenario I played in, docks and longboats were used so the troops would have to make an initial advance towards the ship from different sides.
 
Photos over here on FB, but with privacy settings, you probably need to be a member of the group to see them:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/460868411872277/posts/689646402327809/
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: anevilgiraffe on 19 February 2025, 02:55:28 PM
it's an interesting work around... wonder if they do bigger ones, a Demeter scenario requires more real estate to explore.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 19 February 2025, 03:04:39 PM
Cat, where did you find your longboats?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: anevilgiraffe on 19 February 2025, 03:10:31 PM
dammit... I feeling all enthused* and wishing I'd entered the BSC this year...

*it will pass
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 19 February 2025, 03:29:11 PM
I have Billings wooden Viking ship model that has sat started but unfinished for 35 years.  Damn thing is the wrong scale for gaming but the wife bought it for me as a present when it was very much more than we could afford at the time.  If i try to scratch build something else before finishing it, it might be grounds for divorce.  I have deferred finishing by arguing the viking ship is too big for displaying in our house.  A frigate in 28mm scale is going to be as big…
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 19 February 2025, 03:30:31 PM
This was the Demeter scenario, just fought in closer quarters than as written.  It worked fine.
 
I wasn't running this game, I think those are Perry longboats.
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/bh-122-flat-boat-resin-plus-sailors-rowing-and-midshipman/
 
When I was googling about for ships like this, I did come across one on Etsy that was a bit longer, but it was also narrower, and the staircases were built out and ate up a good chunk of deck space.  It also needed gluing together which was a complete negative for storage space. 
 
The one linked on Amazon slots together solidly and breaks down to pack flat.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: anevilgiraffe on 19 February 2025, 03:34:00 PM
https://youtu.be/pv-mbI1mKUc?si=ZaBG9PihoBf08hH6
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 19 February 2025, 03:59:05 PM
This was the Demeter scenario, just fought in closer quarters than as written.  It worked fine.
 
I wasn't running this game, I think those are Perry longboats.
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/bh-122-flat-boat-resin-plus-sailors-rowing-and-midshipman/
 
When I was googling about for ships like this, I did come across one on Etsy that was a bit longer, but it was also narrower, and the staircases were built out and ate up a good chunk of deck space.  It also needed gluing together which was a complete negative for storage space. 
 
The one linked on Amazon slots together solidly and breaks down to pack flat.

Are those longboats and 1/2 the rowers a single piece? As far as it looks you get two halves of the boat with three rowers already molded in place on each half as a single part and the rest of the crew are individual figs to fill the gaps.  Or am i missing something? I am really just looking for empty boats, or at least removable crew
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 20 February 2025, 01:51:14 AM
Anyone got an opinion on Firelock Games’ sloop kits in plastic?
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Cat on 20 February 2025, 02:09:05 AM
Yes, it looks like the Perry kit has half the crew moulded into the resin boat.  Firelock has an empty resin long boat (hmm, may have to pick up one or two of those myself, will have to ask at the FLGS...)
 
Don't have it, but the Firelock Sloop does look beautiful.  Eventually, I might break down and get one to convert to a Hudson River Sloop which has lower lines.  I'm more likely to use that in the Tappan Zee off Sleepy Hollow.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Iain R on 09 March 2025, 09:28:00 PM
I'd be interested to see what ends up in "Britain" (see the first post in my thread for my long-held ideas about British folklore meets Napoleonic heroes...), since I've already re-skinned the subjects of the first book to Scotland...
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: commissarmoody on 13 June 2025, 06:18:11 AM
And new News?  :D
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 15 June 2025, 09:32:00 PM
And new News?  :D
Beyond: https://www.ospreypublishing.com/uk/silver-bayonet-britain-bones-of-albion-9781472869357/ (https://www.ospreypublishing.com/uk/silver-bayonet-britain-bones-of-albion-9781472869357/)
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: commissarmoody on 19 July 2025, 10:40:32 AM
Well I hope something new pops up soon. Would like to get a jump start on new characters.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 19 July 2025, 12:59:30 PM
I expect the tariff shenanigans has thrown plans and timetables into disarray.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: commissarmoody on 20 July 2025, 04:42:21 AM
Nothing I have seen has messed with the timetable for release, so figures crossed on that front.

Meanwhile on the FB page they posted this.
Bow Street Runners.
Two new 'Soldiers' you can recruit to your Unit in the new book 'Britain', coming out in September.
Joe hasn't written any new Units into the Britain supplement, but there are new figures like the BSRs and Civilians to bring to you.
Painted by Andrew Taylor.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16fFMaPnmd/
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 20 July 2025, 02:15:28 PM
only 6 new figures mentioned!?! If that ain’t a production release  “let’s wait and see what the future brings” demeanor…i don’t know what is.  Previous books had a veritable plethora of figs with each and drumming up of pre-orders.  Maybe we will see more in September, but the tempo does feel a bit tepid. I will definitely be buying the 6 figs…and am very hungry for even more in the same vein, although the book itself i probably won’t buy.  I have been more intent on adapting Mr Norrel and Mr Strange to my gaming.

A recent article in one of the magazines had an interview with Wargames Atlantic discussing tariff impacts and methods they took to address them.  If North Star isn’t also thinking about how to address cross border sales in a tariff environment as well, i would be most surprised.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Kitsune on 21 July 2025, 08:09:57 AM
Nothing I have seen has messed with the timetable for release, so figures crossed on that front.

Meanwhile on the FB page they posted this.
Bow Street Runners.
Two new 'Soldiers' you can recruit to your Unit in the new book 'Britain', coming out in September.
Joe hasn't written any new Units into the Britain supplement, but there are new figures like the BSRs and Civilians to bring to you.
Painted by Andrew Taylor.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16fFMaPnmd/

Lack of solo campaign is criminal. Real shame.

I’ll still get the book as it’s Britain, but the solo rules are a strong element of the game for me.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Sakuragi Miniatures on 27 July 2025, 03:16:25 PM
only 6 new figures mentioned!?! If that ain’t a production release  “let’s wait and see what the future brings” demeanor…i don’t know what is.  Previous books had a veritable plethora of figs with each and drumming up of pre-orders.  Maybe we will see more in September, but the tempo does feel a bit tepid. I will definitely be buying the 6 figs…and am very hungry for even more in the same vein, although the book itself i probably won’t buy.  I have been more intent on adapting Mr Norrel and Mr Strange to my gaming.

A recent article in one of the magazines had an interview with Wargames Atlantic discussing tariff impacts and methods they took to address them.  If North Star isn’t also thinking about how to address cross border sales in a tariff environment as well, i would be most surprised.

It could also be using a lot of miniatures from earlier releases and creating new versions would be redundant.
Title: Re: Silver Bayonet - The Future?
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on 28 July 2025, 02:39:23 PM
That’s my greatest fear.  I don’t really play Silver Bayonet itself much, but i really love the figures and have bought most of them.  I want more sculpts, not books, to use with my other rules and RPGing.  i don’t mind setting and thematic content for campaign building, but i don’t really care about the SB stats of a Rifleman or a ghost. The figs are too excellent to waste on what for me is a rather meh game.  (Which really comes down to the mechanics for combat resolution and dice pool management , they don’t strike me as very meaningful as choices for tactics.)