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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: lord marcus on 27 September 2022, 03:52:44 PM

Title: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+70 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 27 September 2022, 03:52:44 PM: I'm painting an entire roman legion from the Wargames Atlantic Decline and fall range. The goal of this project is three-fold:

1. To create a unique studio army showcasing the decline and fall range that I sell on McDougalldesigns3d.com

2. To Create a visual representation of a full roman legion that can also be used at conventions and events in various historical systems.

3. For fun, and as a pallete cleanser between groups of commission items.

Current painted total is 16 out of a planned initial 1100

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/9/27/1150487_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1150487-.html)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 16/1100
Post by: Easy E on 27 September 2022, 06:21:58 PM: Nice! Will you have decals for the shields?

I am mulling over whether this should be my next project as well.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 16/1100
Post by: AdamPHayes on 27 September 2022, 11:39:48 PM: Wow, quite an ambition! Do you have a legion in mind or is it going to be a generic one? Also what century for? (The helmets you have chosen for your initial batch are typical for the 3rd Century. Not sure if Comitatenses was a thing until later.)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 16/1100
Post by: carlos marighela on 28 September 2022, 04:49:37 AM: 1100 figures? :o I admire your ambition.

If it was me I'd say 'this is a placeholder, please check back in six years time'. :)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 16/1100
Post by: Johnp4000 on 28 September 2022, 10:09:09 AM: That is a big target, but you made a good start there. I never realised that wargames Atlantic set had a variety of headwear, including the late 3rd century style. I had only seen the Late helmets used.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 16/1100
Post by: Freddy on 28 September 2022, 08:36:44 PM: Ambitious project, but the first 16 looks nice :) Keep posting!
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 16/1100
Post by: lord marcus on 06 October 2022, 07:57:09 AM: (https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/10/6/1150976_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1150976-.html)

Up to 20 men in the first century. More to come.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: lord marcus on 07 October 2022, 07:25:55 AM: (https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/10/7/1151003_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1151003-.html)

Imperial Foederati Numeri WIP. These are in addition to, and not part of, the 1-1 Comitatenses legio.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: lord marcus on 08 October 2022, 09:55:22 AM: Roommate and I were up late watching the first few episodes of The sandman.

I had some artistic inspiration and started working on some of the numeri before bed.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/10/8/1151047_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1151047-.html)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: lord marcus on 10 October 2022, 12:12:18 AM: Where I was last night with the Numeri

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/10/9/1151156_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1151156-.html)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: lord marcus on 10 October 2022, 10:00:09 AM: 10 Foederati Numeri Infantry, awaiting the rest of their unit before being based and finished up for the battlefield.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/10/10/1151176_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1151176-.html)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: bluewillow on 11 October 2022, 08:18:39 AM: That is a great project, I have admire a crazy goal of 1100 figs in the same unit!

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: jon_1066 on 11 October 2022, 01:35:59 PM: Certainly an ambitious project. What are you basing the soldier spacing on? As I understand it we are not really sure how spaced apart the ranks and files would be.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: lord marcus on 11 October 2022, 01:39:06 PM: Quote from: jon_1066 on 11 October 2022, 01:35:59 PM
Certainly an ambitious project. What are you basing the soldier spacing on? As I understand it we are not really sure how spaced apart the ranks and files would be.

1. Personal experience in a shieldwall formation.

2. 50mm base frontage, mainly due to spacing for the shields.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: lord marcus on 13 October 2022, 10:44:01 PM: 8 legionaries with Spears and shields are on the painting desk.

Another 24 are primed.

And I'm currently de-spruing the remainder of the sprues I own to see what I can make out of them.

Oh, and I unearthed two Palatini Comitatenses I built months ago as a test.

I'm currently out, but I will endeavor to get more photos when I get home.

For those who are not aware, the first stage of the project here is centurio Ii with 100 troops, of which 20 are painted.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: lord marcus on 16 October 2022, 07:07:08 PM: Concept for a Palatini Comitatenses officer that I need to finish by using greenstuff to resculpt the cloak. (Edit: holy crap run on sentence batman.)

Standing beside the unfinished Tower of more immersive photos:

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/10/16/1151403_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1151403-.html)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: lord marcus on 27 October 2022, 07:51:44 PM: I've gotten work done on 16 more legionaries, and just recently completed this first base of Saggitarii. Made from gripping beast dark age archers and Wargames Atlantic late Roman heads.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/10/27/1152175_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1152175-.html)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: bluewillow on 28 October 2022, 07:41:29 AM: Are you settling on late third to 4th century?

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 28 October 2022, 07:45:33 AM: Yes I am. The main project is a commitatenses legion.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: bluewillow on 28 October 2022, 07:56:14 AM: Quote from: lord marcus on 28 October 2022, 07:45:33 AM
Yes I am. The main project is a commitatenses legion.

The Victrix and Wargames Atlantic will be a great advantage to you then!

I built a eastern army and have started my western army now. Mostly Musketeer/Footsore, some black tree, old glory, gripping beast and foundry.

Have a scroll through my blog for some simple Shield designs you can paint yourself rather than transfers.

https://stormandconquest.blogspot.com/search/label/Late%20Roman (https://stormandconquest.blogspot.com/search/label/Late%20Roman)

All the best

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 28 October 2022, 08:02:57 AM: I very much appreciate the resources!

Any specific article you would recommend?

I'll fully engaged in using wargames Atlantic, but I intend to mix in the occasional few boxes of victrix
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: bluewillow on 28 October 2022, 04:02:04 PM: Quote from: lord marcus on 28 October 2022, 08:02:57 AM
I very much appreciate the resources!

Any specific article you would recommend?

I'll fully engaged in using wargames Atlantic, but I intend to mix in the occasional few boxes of victrix

If you are western or eastern legions look at the notita dignitatum for ideas or a specific unit

https://www.notitiadignitatum.org/ (https://www.notitiadignitatum.org/)

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C9BKJA_enAU679AU682&hl=en-GB&sxsrf=ALiCzsYHgcOhUcGf1q8bIwdE9luf_NYGiQ:1666969255590&q=codex+nottia+dignatium+&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjrx9KymIP7AhVQ3RoKHXPdA2QQ0pQJegQIBxAB&biw=1080&bih=687&dpr=2 (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C9BKJA_enAU679AU682&hl=en-GB&sxsrf=ALiCzsYHgcOhUcGf1q8bIwdE9luf_NYGiQ:1666969255590&q=codex+nottia+dignatium+&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjrx9KymIP7AhVQ3RoKHXPdA2QQ0pQJegQIBxAB&biw=1080&bih=687&dpr=2)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 28 October 2022, 11:53:36 PM: I am aware of the notia, thank you.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 30 October 2022, 10:56:07 PM: 16 legionaries awaiting basing for completion.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/10/30/1152345_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1152345-.html)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/10/30/1152344_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1152344-.html)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 31 October 2022, 06:08:24 AM: 16 more Romans, added to centurio II.

I've discovered lowered spears do not like the legs of preceding ranks. For display purposes, I will be sourcing a set of "spacer bases", which will help me add in combat vignettes.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/10/31/1152352_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1152352-.html)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: Johnp4000 on 31 October 2022, 10:23:49 AM: Hi Lord Marcus,
Could I ask you what paints are you using, not sure if they are Gw's Contrast or the army painter version?
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: DivisMal on 31 October 2022, 11:42:54 AM: Quote from: lord marcus on 13 October 2022, 10:44:01 PM
8 legionaries with Spears and shields are on the painting desk.

Another 24 are primed.

And I'm currently de-spruing the remainder of the sprues I own to see what I can make out of them.

Oh, and I unearthed two Palatini Comitatenses I built months ago as a test.

I'm currently out, but I will endeavor to get more photos when I get home.

For those who are not aware, the first stage of the project here is centurio Ii with 100 troops, of which 20 are painted.

This is going to be great, but also it’s going to be a marathon! Any bets on how long the thread is finally going to be? ;€
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 31 October 2022, 04:02:52 PM: Quote from: Johnp4000 on 31 October 2022, 10:23:49 AM
Hi Lord Marcus,
Could I ask you what paints are you using, not sure if they are Gw's Contrast or the army painter version?

i use a mix of vallejo, reaper master series, and GW. What specifically are you looking for a color on?
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 20/1100
Post by: lord marcus on 31 October 2022, 04:03:56 PM: Quote from: DivisMal on 31 October 2022, 11:42:54 AM
This is going to be great, but also it’s going to be a marathon! Any bets on how long the thread is finally going to be? ;€

Not currently. Probably 20-30 more pages. I guess we'll see how long it takes me. I'll keep updating.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: Johnp4000 on 01 November 2022, 05:32:14 PM: Quote from: lord marcus on 31 October 2022, 04:02:52 PM
i use a mix of vallejo, reaper master series, and GW. What specifically are you looking for a color on?

I was interested in the brown colour you used for the trousers/leggings?
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 01 November 2022, 05:39:20 PM: Cygor brown contrast from GW, generally. I'll mix in the occasional set of garagraks sewer or some other brown for variety.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 01 November 2022, 08:25:30 PM: Got those 36 archers i built last night primed.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: Johnp4000 on 02 November 2022, 05:06:12 PM: Cheers Lord Marcus. Do you think you will use any of the new Victrix figures?
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 02 November 2022, 06:48:23 PM: Quote from: Johnp4000 on 02 November 2022, 05:06:12 PM
Cheers Lord Marcus. Do you think you will use any of the new Victrix figures?

The intention initially was to mainly use Wargames Atlantic Decline and fall kits, however the army builders have lagged behind in production so I will most likely add in other manufacturers for variation.
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+14 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 03 November 2022, 11:22:43 PM: (https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/11/3/1152570_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1152570-.html)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/11/3/1152571_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1152571-.html)

Update on the Sagittarii
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+34 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 06 December 2022, 07:33:58 AM: So, the sagitarii phase 1 has been completed. 60/60 painted.

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/12/6/1154421_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1154421-.html)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2022/12/6/1154420_sm-.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1154420-.html)
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+70 auxiliaries]
Post by: vodkafan on 07 December 2022, 01:01:03 AM: You are insane Sir. But it's my sort of insanity ;D
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+70 auxiliaries]
Post by: lord marcus on 08 December 2022, 01:10:21 AM: Quote from: vodkafan on 07 December 2022, 01:01:03 AM
You are insane Sir. But it's my sort of insanity ;D

I'll take that as a compliment
Title: Re: Full late Roman legion (Comitatenses) 36/1100 [+70 auxiliaries]
Post by: Easy E on 08 December 2022, 03:42:35 PM: Wow, you are cranking these guys out. Keep it up!