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Title: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: NickNascati on 04 April 2023, 09:27:44 PM
So I bought four sprues from different Stargrave sets, male and female crew, and troopers.  Nice models, but a bit lifeless in my opinion.  What other minis fit the size and look of them?  I’m thinking maybe Copplestone Future Wars?
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Littlearmies on 05 April 2023, 07:54:32 AM
The other Frostgrave figures fit perfectly, as do the Oathmark humans. That gives cultists with sci-fi guns (use regular heads and they can be "normal people" too) that have very nice animation, barbarians with sci-fi heads and guns etc. The wizards kits give a lot of spare parts and can give a "Jedi" vibe with the right match-up if that's what you're looking for.

The Wargames Atlantic boxes have a bunch of candidates - their boxes seem to be a bit variable when it comes to arm joint sizes and stuff but the cannon fodder box gives you civilians in jump suits that would work for corporate security, civilians (it was a major irritation for me that the Stargrave figures all have briefcases, spanners etc in their left hands making the building of civvies very difficult as there's no right handed tools) etc. Plus Lizardmen and Giant Spiders!

I've seen the bodies from the Perry Afghan box mixed in with Stargrave and GW bits but I think that might need a bit of greenstuffing. Obviously, bits from Anvil Industries, Victoria Miniatures, Kromlech etc would come in handy although you'd have to make decisions about head sizes etc. And there's nothing to stop you using the odd bit from other historical kits - capes, backpacks, bandoliers etc.

As for sci-fi figures there are oodles. The Colony 87 range are perfect for civilians etc, if you're selective then some of the old Ratnik Miniatures figures are fine. Obviously the original metal Necromunda figures if you have any in the attic (they're silly money if you try to buy any on eBay though). A lot of it depends on what sort of "feel" you want for your universe
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: fred on 05 April 2023, 08:02:01 AM
What littlearmies said!

I’ve found the Frostgrave cultists bodies a great match, and work really well. I also like the Frostgrave gnolls mixed in, though I have also used GW arms on the gnolls.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: zemjw on 05 April 2023, 09:31:43 AM
Quite a lot of the Heresy figures work. I did a couple of head swaps with stargrave heads on a ganger body, and it was fine (a bit large, but nothing too off-putting).

They have starport workers and security type folk as well.

old Infinity works fine, but the newer stuff is far too big (although that's okay for aliens)

Some Reaper Chronoscope are fine, although, again, their newer stuff, especially Bones Black and Bones USA, is getting quite a bit bigger.

I've been looking at Fireforge folk rabble as the basis for backwater colony folk (Dark Matter, Killjoys, Firefly). They're more likely to be recipients, rather than donors, of parts, but there are plenty of spare parts on the Stargrave sprues.

On the space western theme, the male and female gunfighters from Dead Man's Hand are worth a look as well

It's also worth checking your sprue pile. Some of the Warlord WW2 stuff is compatible, and a good source of bits to mix and match. Lee Enfields in Spaaaace :D

Basically, older and true 28mm should be fine
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: katie on 05 April 2023, 09:51:43 PM
Alternative Armies has several 28mm ranges that can work, including one called "Alternate Stars"...

https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/alternate-stars

There's also some potentials in:

https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/asgard-25mm-science-fiction
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: NickNascati on 05 April 2023, 10:40:16 PM
I ordered a couple more Stargrave sprues, as well as a Great Escape Games male gunfighter sprue.  Plan on doing them as Friefly themed minis.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: zemjw on 06 April 2023, 09:14:19 AM
I've just realised that Hasslefree has not been mentioned. Most of their stuff works, although some of the newest has crept into the 30/32mm size.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Terry Deathstrike on 06 April 2023, 08:48:35 PM
You could always look for other Bobby Jackson sculpts as he sculpted the bulk of the Stargrave minis.

RBJ have a few of his sci-fi minis for example

https://store-rbjgc-com.3dcartstores.com/
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 06 April 2023, 08:58:14 PM
Most of my Cannon Fodder have Stargrave/Frostgrave heads.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgyJ1nMmYwgB9TRshPIuxP98ld789DSdFfJfAzq2zZD-2g99uuKOz0nSAjPs1Tar7RMbua08YgQtUj2CyBta1RH1_ur148NdvmZFqgDSRpFgylJ2xeCuLhXUM1HYqbEnH8k410ivLA659PK8ZChwZOXjNVKI3z-3O5MioJYXJCAktTdT0GZSlAEwlOAQ/s16000/sg-crew-5-1.png)
The arm connections are different, I need to  smooth in the joint on this engineer.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhaYl5sEx2bt_8XPh4IaOPhwUfeNgxlY9L6GFoHT4UjwtTIzxyyrVlll6z5YGxjvxHkXNVjtBYjzKtEub697a4_2-50sJ4ftJ_eBVxaAQRUBJPHYVpx-u7seIYDjLo_Efq__Y2r1yw3ZbBAimivTs01g3gYvZA2bN8uiNyrvqfJ5wZ18AVAspZWNJe-mQ/s16000/sg-crew-4-1.png)
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 06 April 2023, 09:04:58 PM
Anvil Industries for figures and heads.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aGYsF6DdaTw/YJAPMWKBnfI/AAAAAAAAH50/eKb4OIi9yMgeS1XPsmRFptWx-i1Mw9KBACLcBGAsYHQ/s16000/stargrave-pathfinder-1-3.png)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HqtlAvjjkko/YAskmAVY1KI/AAAAAAAAHkc/OKnYtToc370xG3Lbqv-N1ycGwOtmr0n_ACLcBGAsYHQ/s16000/anvil-rebels-1-2.png)

Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: giles the zog on 06 April 2023, 09:52:07 PM
Copplestone future wars
Gates of Antares
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Scarper on 09 April 2023, 12:12:55 AM
Quote from: Ultravanillasmurf on 06 April 2023, 08:58:14 PM
Most of my Cannon Fodder have Stargrave/Frostgrave heads.
(img removed)

The arm connections are different, I need to  smooth in the joint on this engineer.
(img removed)

Thanks for posting those - really helpful direct comparisons. Joints look a little janky, but not too hard to fix. Good to know!

Quote from: Terry Deathstrike on 06 April 2023, 08:48:35 PM
You could always look for other Bobby Jackson sculpts as he sculpted the bulk of the Stargrave minis.

RBJ have a few of his sci-fi minis for example

https://store-rbjgc-com.3dcartstores.com/

Cheers for this! I was having a look at the website, but the images are tiny! Makes you wonder how they plan to sell anything...

Was it the STAR troopers that he did? They seem stylistically pretty similar, and there are a few sculpts I really like in there.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Terry Deathstrike on 09 April 2023, 05:48:41 PM
Quote from: Scarper on 09 April 2023, 12:12:55 AM
Cheers for this! I was having a look at the website, but the images are tiny! Makes you wonder how they plan to sell anything...
Was it the STAR troopers that he did? They seem stylistically pretty similar, and there are a few sculpts I really like in there.

Indeed. The kickstarter images are a bit bigger.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 10 April 2023, 10:40:29 AM
I forgot the Great Escape Gunslingers:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_tAarvt76Ic/YQ-te_z4NuI/AAAAAAAAIIo/27WmJDkmD1w8kfmyy8I20nTaffVyyyx1gCLcBGAsYHQ/s16000/cowboygrave-1.png)
Gunslinger body and Stargrave head and arms.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: NickNascati on 10 April 2023, 12:44:13 PM
All,
       Yep, I’ve been having great fun messing about with single sprues of different sets. The only problem I encountered was with the female Cannon Fodder minis.  They are quite tall.  I solved it though with a bit of creative surgery.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 10 April 2023, 02:38:24 PM
As someone else who is starting to play about with the Stargrave plastics I'd love to see your work so far Nick.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Scarper on 11 April 2023, 12:17:04 AM
Quote from: Terry Deathstrike on 09 April 2023, 05:48:41 PM
Indeed. The kickstarter images are a bit bigger.
  • https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1620164718/star-trooper-miniatures
  • https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1620164718/star-troopers-too

Really useful. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: von der Tann on 11 April 2023, 01:19:39 PM
Quote from: Ultravanillasmurf on 10 April 2023, 10:40:29 AM
I forgot the Great Escape Gunslingers:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_tAarvt76Ic/YQ-te_z4NuI/AAAAAAAAIIo/27WmJDkmD1w8kfmyy8I20nTaffVyyyx1gCLcBGAsYHQ/s16000/cowboygrave-1.png)
Gunslinger body and Stargrave head and arms.

That basically screams "Serenity Crew" ...
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on 11 April 2023, 01:39:18 PM
There's a few in my Alice range;

https://thelittlesoldiercompany.co.uk/alice-in-gerunderland (https://thelittlesoldiercompany.co.uk/alice-in-gerunderland)

(https://thelittlesoldiercompany.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG-0645-scaled.jpg)
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: NickNascati on 11 April 2023, 04:51:48 PM
Here are a few that I’ve done so far, nothing fancy, just straight from the box builds.
The “Mandalorian”, is just a paint job, with an added jet pack.  The “child” is an imp from the Frostgrave wizards sprue.
 
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Pattus Magnus on 11 April 2023, 06:36:19 PM
Excellent, I like those a lot! Cool repurposing of the imp, he looks the part.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 11 April 2023, 08:02:21 PM
They look cool Nick. The troopers really made me think of classic Imperial Guard and I'm digging your Mando and the little Imp, he's a cool idea. I've not really had a look at the wizard sprues so will have to check them out.

I've only built 4 Stargrave minis so far but I've really enjoyed kitbashing them. It's like the GW hobby 10 or 15 years ago but cheaper. The ability to mix up so many kits is addictive lol
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: NickNascati on 11 April 2023, 10:38:55 PM
The troopers will be the bad guys in my games,  I didn’t want to paint them as SW stormtroopers.  I think that buying sprues is a good way to go.  You e d up with just enough minis.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 12 April 2023, 09:00:43 PM
Nice work.
Now if you want some Storm Troopers, Anvil Orbital Fusileers might meet your needs.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mFiCMgIGI20/WTznejI30EI/AAAAAAAACX8/Ce_QEw6EhywM13ovxevo0lhe0t8i72evgCLcB/s1600/orbitalfusileer4-1.png)

http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/2017/06/anvil-industries-martian-orbital.html (http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/2017/06/anvil-industries-martian-orbital.html)
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 12 April 2023, 09:13:08 PM
Looking good UVSmurf. Do you think the Anvil arms would work ok on the Stargrave plastics?
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Kourtchatovium104 on 13 April 2023, 02:17:03 PM
As I mix Anvil and Stargrave sprues very often, I can tell you that they fit very well.  :)
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 13 April 2023, 08:02:02 PM
Cool, that opens up some options. Any pics of your conversions?
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Kourtchatovium104 on 15 April 2023, 01:57:19 PM
The photos of my conversions (quick painting, be indulgent  :D):

first one, left to right:
Sven: all Anvil with modified Stargrave weapon
Ulrich: Stargrave/Frosgrave body and weapon, Anvil arms
Boris: Stargrave body and weapon, Anvil arms

second one:
Stavros from the back: Stargrave/Frosgrave body and weapon, Anvil arms

No, they are not SW stormtroopers, they are Traveller RPG imperial soldiers in battlesuit !  lol
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 15 April 2023, 02:10:30 PM
They look great and thr mix of parts work well. I like your crisp colour choices.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 15 April 2023, 03:05:14 PM
Nice job.
Quote from: Kourtchatovium104 on 15 April 2023, 01:57:19 PM
No, they are not SW stormtroopers, they are Traveller RPG imperial soldiers in battlesuit !  lol
They look more like CES, battlesuits are fully enclosed and powered (Anvil Drop Troopers https://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/high-tech-drop-troopers (https://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/high-tech-drop-troopers)  for example).
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-agCpiQcSRJU/Xw38-rvT-3I/AAAAAAAAGtQ/D7OqVPpyxm8bmLDzzebdK8kPSgs_wTeNQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/gdwboxes-1.png)
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: fastolfrus on 15 April 2023, 08:17:35 PM
since Perry Afghans were mentioned as a possible source for bodies, I'd just comment that Afghan jezails (either from Perry or Wargames Atlantic) might be suitable for SF weapons - they look similar to some of the Star Wars weaponry (possibly Tusken or even Mandalorian?).
just a thought
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Genghis on 16 April 2023, 03:48:43 PM
Quote from: Ultravanillasmurf on 10 April 2023, 10:40:29 AM
I forgot the Great Escape Gunslingers:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_tAarvt76Ic/YQ-te_z4NuI/AAAAAAAAIIo/27WmJDkmD1w8kfmyy8I20nTaffVyyyx1gCLcBGAsYHQ/s16000/cowboygrave-1.png)
Gunslinger body and Stargrave head and arms.

A little late catching this, but this an inspired kitbash.  I'm now sorely tempted to try to figure out what I need a warband/gang in such a style for and why the should jump the painting queue. 
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 16 April 2023, 04:12:29 PM
Because you deserve it damn it!

Just don't forget to share pics. lol
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 18 April 2023, 09:31:10 PM
Does anyone know if the old Rogue Trader plastic weapons scale well with the Stargrave weapons? I'm thinking the classic las weapons (Space Dwarfs & Imperial Guard) and the hand weapon sprue (Confrontation I think).

The new GW weapons are too big for my tastes.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: eilif on 19 April 2023, 03:33:21 AM
Quote from: Lost Egg on 18 April 2023, 09:31:10 PM
Does anyone know if the old Rogue Trader plastic weapons scale well with the Stargrave weapons? I'm thinking the classic las weapons (Space Dwarfs & Imperial Guard) and the hand weapon sprue (Confrontation I think).

The new GW weapons are too big for my tastes.
I think they'd work pretty well. If no one else has a more definite answer, I can snap some comparison shots tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 19 April 2023, 01:15:58 PM
That'd be grand if you could eilif. Cheers.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: eilif on 02 May 2023, 04:04:12 AM
Quote from: Lost Egg on 19 April 2023, 01:15:58 PM
That'd be grand if you could eilif. Cheers.
Sorry about the late reply, I'd been away from the forum and forgot about this. Here are 3 Stargrave weapons with a  RT lasgun and bolter, 2nd edition bolter and bolt pistol and third edition lasgun.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 02 May 2023, 06:50:29 PM
Many thanks for the pic eilif.

Wow, most of those GW weapons look really chunky and clunky next to the SG ones. The RTB01 bolter looks good but even the RT lasgun looks like a big fat crayon next to the SG rifle.

I have managed to get hold of a Rogue Trader Hand Weapon sprue and some of the weapons do work really well while others look too big...my I'm just getting fussy :D
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Veteran Sergeant on 05 May 2023, 06:02:58 PM
The recent Ooh Rah kit from Wargames Atlantic is pretty snappy, and with good proportions that are still Heroic Scale but significantly less chonky than a lot of other options out there at 28mm.   Has three styles of helmet head options too, and an option for bare heads and floppy hats.  I think these became my favorite generic sci-fi troops almost immediately, at least in terms of a multi-part kit.

(https://images.beastsofwar.com/2022/09/Ooh-Rah-Squad-Painted-1-Wargames-Atlantic.jpg)
(https://images.beastsofwar.com/2022/09/Ooh-Rah-Squad-Painted-2-Wargames-Atlantic.jpg)


Mantic makes their GCPS Troopers too, which make great generic Sci-Fi, but they're closer to 30mm.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: KGatch113 on 08 May 2023, 05:14:35 AM


ooh Rah doesn't mix well with Stargrave unless you use Stargrave arms on them. The Ooh Rah arms are anorexically skinny.

GCPS are the awful Mantic plastic. Pain to work with. Plus there's something about the sculpts. Too many cloth folds....

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2023/2/9/1159631_sm-Ooh%20Rah.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1159631-Ooh%20Rah.html)

(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2023/2/9/1159632_sm-Ooh%20Rah.jpg) (https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1159632-Ooh%20Rah.html)
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 08 May 2023, 08:38:29 AM
There is also the Spiral Arm Broken.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EVnLOXQePX0/YJbI6tZ0yNI/AAAAAAAAH8A/L1HBfzxoLKQNx9xiV1JfdZO906JJZxifwCLcBGAsYHQ/s16000/broken-1-3.png)
They have separate arms and weapons and the combinations are a bit complicated (they have a blog post here http://www.thecommguild.com/roller/thecommguild/entry/broken-infantry-sprue-which-arms (http://www.thecommguild.com/roller/thecommguild/entry/broken-infantry-sprue-which-arms)).
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: zemjw on 08 May 2023, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: KGatch113 on 08 May 2023, 05:14:35 AM
ooh Rah doesn't mix well with Stargrave unless you use Stargrave arms on them. The Ooh Rah arms are anorexically skinny.

How big are the shoulder joints on the ooh Rah figures? I find I either have skinny arms lost in a huge shoulder joint, or need to trim the arm to get it to fit.

I was hoping to use some of the WA sets, but tiny shoulder joints would be a nuisance  :(
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 08 May 2023, 12:53:21 PM
Thats quite an array of options but too fiddly looking for my tastes.

Both the Ooh-Ra and the Broken minis seem to be going for more detail than the SG minis so they look a bit mismatched...though with a touch of paint them might sit better together.
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Lost Egg on 10 May 2023, 06:45:11 PM
On Facebook Northstar have been showing off the next box of minis for Stargrave...Scavengers.

(https://i.imgur.com/hnjr56Q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iUR8O48.jpg)

They look pretty cool, I can defo see myself using them for cultists and angry mobs of grubby civilians. I wonder if we'll get a 2nd set for the ladies?
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: Redmao on 11 May 2023, 10:40:03 AM
Wow, that new Stargrave box looks great!
Title: Re: Other minis compatible with Stargrave?
Post by: tomrommel1 on 11 May 2023, 01:55:54 PM
yes they look really great