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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: Belgian on July 07, 2023, 06:13:06 PM

Title: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Belgian on July 07, 2023, 06:13:06 PM
Recently bought some cheap plastic army trucks which are probably World War Two Soviet trucks although not sure, any pointers on the type of truck if it´s even based on a real truck... thanks!

After some searching it might be based on the post war ZIL-150 or ZIL-164
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: dadlamassu on July 07, 2023, 07:39:39 PM
Might be a Ford G8T https://www.o5m6.de/redarmy/ford_g8t.php (https://www.o5m6.de/redarmy/ford_g8t.php)

(https://www.o5m6.de/redarmy/img/Ford%20G8T_7.jpg)

(https://www.o5m6.de/redarmy/img/Ford%20G8T_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Elbows on July 07, 2023, 08:22:51 PM
Looks American to me.  This is a great site to check - I'm running out the door, but worth a look:

https://www.o5m6.de/redarmy/_menu.php?cat=ForeignTrucks&navtit=Foreign%20Trucks
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: carlos marighela on July 07, 2023, 08:38:38 PM
It's a Zil-150. Soviet light truck built post war into the 1950s. Never as widely made as the larger Zil-151 and Zil-157.

The Chinese made a copy, the CA-10. Rubicon are making a kit of this truck for their Vietnam range, which is a slightly odd choice given the relative use of the larger stable mates and the Gaz-51 in the same weight range.
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: sandsmodels on July 08, 2023, 10:42:04 AM
post ww2 zil 150 truck, like the 6x6 zil 151 & 157 but only 2 axles, used a lot in vietnam i believe
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Belgian on July 08, 2023, 11:25:23 AM
Thanks everybody! So not really usable for WWII but looks like it served extensively in post-war Soviet, North Vietnamese and Chinese armies. Looks like the double axle version would have been more useful but as these are cheap as chips not too worried about that. Also plenty of civilian use so useful indeed.
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: sandsmodels on July 08, 2023, 12:53:30 PM
not a complete loss, the cab looks very much like the dodge & chevy trucks of the late 30's to 40's, used by lots of nations, the cab is based on the usa K line cabs anyway.
check out this poster:-
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM41726
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: carlos marighela on July 08, 2023, 05:47:11 PM
Out of curiosity... who makes 'em/ where did you find it? I always have a use for post war Soviet trucks, especially if they are dirt cheap.  :)
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Belgian on July 08, 2023, 07:52:19 PM
Out of curiosity... who makes 'em/ where did you find it? I always have a use for post war Soviet trucks, especially if they are dirt cheap.  :)

Found them on Aliexpress, think they were around 6 euro postage included for 10 trucks so dirt cheap. Quite thin plastic and some minor damage but at that price quite fair.
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: carlos marighela on July 08, 2023, 08:22:23 PM
Cheers! I'll have a look. That's a Ho Chi Minh Trail convoy for $10 :o
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Belgian on July 10, 2023, 06:37:29 PM
Cheers! I'll have a look. That's a Ho Chi Minh Trail convoy for $10 :o

That's true, very cheap and add some foliage and camouflage and they will certainly look the part.
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: carlos marighela on July 20, 2023, 10:08:07 PM
Found them on Aliexpress, think they were around 6 euro postage included for 10 trucks so dirt cheap. Quite thin plastic and some minor damage but at that price quite fair.

I don't suppose you recall what you searched for on Aliexpress? I  haven't been able to turn anything up so far, using a vriety of search terms.
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Belgian on July 20, 2023, 11:06:37 PM
Think it was something like "military truck 10x" if that helps.  ;)
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: cuprum on July 21, 2023, 07:43:57 AM
I think it makes sense to search here for the keywords: CA10 truck

https://www.aliexpress.us/?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: carlos marighela on July 21, 2023, 10:40:50 AM
Already tried that alas.
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Belgian on July 22, 2023, 05:55:55 PM
Already tried that alas.

Try Google and enter "aliexpress toy truck 10x" Should be in the top results.
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: carlos marighela on July 22, 2023, 09:54:26 PM
Cheers! That does the trick.
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Belgian on July 30, 2023, 07:45:39 PM
Cheers! That does the trick.

Great, don't forget the pictures  :D
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Rick on September 18, 2024, 11:04:18 PM
Sorry for the serious thread necromancy but the ZIL-150 was heavily influenced by the US International Harvester K series, specifically the K-7, which was used by both the US Army and Navy during WW2. If you squint a bit, with the right paintjob, it'd pass for a US Army truck easily enough.
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Pattus Magnus on September 19, 2024, 09:51:07 PM
With the right paint job, they could also be used for civilian commercial vehicles (either civilian production, or military surplus). It’s almost a shame that they’re a post-war vehicle, a similar pre-war truck would be great for interwar and pulp games!
Title: Re: Soviet Truck Identification Request
Post by: Ursus Maior on September 30, 2024, 03:27:32 PM
It's a Zil-150. Soviet light truck built post war into the 1950s. Never as widely made as the larger Zil-151 and Zil-157.

The Chinese made a copy, the CA-10. Rubicon are making a kit of this truck for their Vietnam range, which is a slightly odd choice given the relative use of the larger stable mates and the Gaz-51 in the same weight range.
Quick erratum: Technically it's a ZiS-150 not a ZiL-150 since the factory (Zavod) was "in the name of Stalin" (imeni Stalina). During de-Stalinization the name was changed to ZiL: Zavod imeni Likhachyova, bringing the name of its former director Ivan Likhachev to the foreground. The ZiL-150 was superseded by the ZiL-164 in 1957, which made little changes to the outer appearance. So the run of of the 150 model under the ZiL brand was probably less than a year.