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Title: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 01 August 2023, 02:19:55 PM
Getting this project officially started with an 8th Army Jeep, as well as an Afrika Korps Sd.kfz.251/1 Ausf. B (which I've only painted the interior of so far). Waiting on some AB Figures for crew, as well as fighting miniatures.

Kits are the Italeri fast-build 1/72 for the Jeep, and the Sd.kfz.251 is a First to Fight model, which I've converted from Ausf. A to B by filing down the crew vision slits. Planning on scratchbuilding an MG shield for it soon.
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 01 August 2023, 02:22:10 PM
C&C appreciated, I'm pretty happy with the Jeep overall, but I'm not sure about the interior on the half-track, I'm not "feeling it" too much. Not sure how to do the chipping on the floor, the idea was that, since the guys in there have to be walking through that spot quite a bit, the paint's gotta be fairly chipped. Same sort of idea with the gun holders, surely taking them out and putting them back in there multiple times must've scraped the paint in some spots.
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 06 August 2023, 04:12:09 PM
Hanomag basecoated and panel lined, now to do the weathering, probably my favourite step of the process :D

Painting the entire vehicle yellow with a brush, after priming it in black, was just annoying, it took a stupid amount of coats. The cleanup of the wash was painful too. But what can you do, I didn't have any other primers on hand, no airbrush either.
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: CapnJim on 06 August 2023, 06:59:21 PM
So far, so good!  Nice job on those.
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 12 August 2023, 07:52:51 AM
Thanks, CapnJim :D
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 12 August 2023, 07:55:50 AM
Done with the Sd.kfz.251, at least until the AB figures I've ordered for it arrive. Really quite happy with it overall!
I need to up my photo game though.
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 12 August 2023, 08:02:48 AM
Is the weathering too much for a vehicle like this? I like how it looks visually, but considering the fact that (afaik) in North Africa these were used slightly differently than later (as in they didn't really fight in these but they were just used for transportation) I'm thinking there might be a bit too much chipping. Also kind of unsure about the dust on the tracks, again I'm thinking it may be a bit too much.
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: Fitz on 12 August 2023, 08:07:45 AM
Whether they fought or not, vehicles in North Africa suffered a lot from sandstorms and the like. There may be more chipping there than you'd see on a real-life vehicle, but I think it gets across the degree to which the environment degraded equipment in the desert theatre.
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: fred on 12 August 2023, 08:09:06 AM
Good stuff

I think for desert vehicles you can’t really have too much sand and dust on them - I suppose the tricky bit is making it look like sand. It may be on the tracks of the 251 it is a bit heavy and looks a bit mud like? But this is really looking in detail as you are asking for feedback.

As to chipping - not sure how common it was on military vehicles - between thick coats of industrial paint and short usage lives (due to combat losses). But I know it is popular on military models and certainly gives the lived in look. It’s perhaps one of those modelling tricks that creates the right overall impression of age and use, even if not strictly how age and use would present itself?
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 12 August 2023, 09:06:52 AM
Yeah, I think the chipping gives more of an impression, rather than being 100% realistic. On the earlier Afrika Korps vehicles, the paint was applied basically on the field, over the factory-painted grey these vehicles came in, so I'm assuming it might chip easier.

As for the dust, yeah, it does look like mud in some areas – I thinned down the "Desert Sand" AK texture paste a lot with water, to use as a sort of glaze, for the dust/sand effects – evidently I went a bit too heavy on some areas.

Don't ask me why I did that, I didn't have any other sand colours (I painted the Jeep in Iraqi Sand, so I needed something lighter to make it stand out. Also now it'll be colour-consistent with the basing :D but I think I might try to remove some of the thicker sand with a toothpick or similar.

Thanks a lot for the feedback!
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: CapnJim on 12 August 2023, 05:51:50 PM
I think it looks good.  Sufficiently weather-beaten, I would say...
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 14 August 2023, 02:37:36 PM
Thanks! Yeah, I may go a tad lighter on future vehicles (might get a Kettenkrad next? not sure, but it's a cool vehicle) but generally I'm happy with it.
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: fred on 14 August 2023, 05:37:51 PM
Once you start looking at how many sand coloured paints there are you will end up owning what seems like half the Vallejo range!

I guess with adding sand to vehicles it’s mainly about the wheels - as if the body is already sand coloured a bit of slightly different sand coloured paint isn’t going to make much difference.

Good point about the early DAK vehicles having locally applied desert paint, which I’m sure would rub off pretty easily
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm (updated 14/11)
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 14 November 2023, 09:55:14 PM
After a long and arduous journey through multiple postal systems, my order of AB Figures has arrived!

Slight problem; while the figures are wonderfully scaled and sculpted overall, they don't fit in the vehicles somehow! Extensive leg surgery will be necessary, I fear.
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: Basementboy on 15 November 2023, 08:07:56 AM
Look wonderful! Hope your impromptu amputations go well ;)
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 19 November 2023, 04:39:42 PM
A bit of surgery and a quick paintjob later, they are done! Very happy with the AB Figures, really sharp detail and wonderful sculpting and casting.
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: bluewillow on 19 November 2023, 09:44:12 PM
Nice job on that Jeep
Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd on 02 March 2024, 10:22:47 PM
Whew, it's been a while!

Not a very exciting update, this one. Just had this Afrika Korps fella laying around after I lost motivation for the project and thought hey, cool pose, let's paint him just for fun. And so I did!

I actually tried, instead of using washes (like Agrax Earthshade which I always use) to use thinned down paint instead, and I actually prefer how that worked! Plus, it's in the proper colour for the part it's meant to be shading, and not just brown. But it's a more subtle approach which I'm a fan of, what do you guys think?

Granted it probably wouldn't work with a more drab scheme, or I would have to go brighter on the highlights and darker on the shading. He probably needs more contrast, I might do more passes of this – I found it actually stains less than GW washes, which means less cleanup!

I'm very happy with how he's turned out so far! still have to finish the base, though.

Title: Re: FNN's WWII in 20mm
Post by: Mindenbrush on 03 March 2024, 12:43:55 PM
Looks good but have you tried using a glaze medium with your thinned down paint? It makes the thinned paint flow better and you get a smoother finish.
I use it in between layers when painting flesh to blend them together and on large areas such as cloaks.