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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: eMills on August 03, 2023, 09:47:35 PM
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I decided to stop the Warzone stuff, since Res Nova is doing a decent job and it doesn't make much sense for me to spend my very limited free time essentially duplicating their work. Sorry for being something of a hobby butterfly, I suspect ADHD is at least partially to blame.
One thing I have always wanted to have are decent Arbites figures. I do not like the new ones by GW, so, time to revive and old project.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZvU7Wsj.jpg)
Not exactly sure what to call him, maybe Judge Captain. I originally started making Arbites parts to convert a Space Marine Scouts counts as for the Kill Team rules. In v1 they would be a Scout Squad with a PA Sergeant, IIRC. Not sure what this guy would proxy as these days. I haven't really dug into the v2 rules yet. He has power armor but I wanted the design to heavily reflect the carapace worn by the rank and file Arbites.
This figure is heavily inspired by this John Blanche piece:
(https://i.imgur.com/DCyAkIe.jpg)
I intend to make 2 of the robed acolyte looking guys. One like in the drawing, and one holding the Captain's helmet.
I also made a test print to see how it looks.
(https://i.imgur.com/lcb3ZfE.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Ws4kEti.jpg)
Next to a partially built Cadian:
(https://i.imgur.com/LXFL1Ct.jpg)
Some small support failures, but I don't care since this is just a test. Size seems decent. I need to dig out an OG Space Marine and compare him next to another power armor wearer, and maybe a few other human-sized figures (especially the Enforcers) since the Cadians feel small. The wrapping on the handle of his power hammer needs to be redone too.
I did more work on the base file for some regular Arbites:
(https://i.imgur.com/6WxiZ8P.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/eubylob.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/XOJg4WY.jpg)
I made a test print of him too:
(https://i.imgur.com/d3fbEFJ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/ljw4eB4.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/6Wftcvd.jpg)
Shotgun:
(https://i.imgur.com/CVb8ak5.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/5u8fVqc.jpg)
Next to the Cadian:
(https://i.imgur.com/UwkVVAU.jpg)
Judge and Arbites together:
(https://i.imgur.com/EzbR78r.jpg)
Again, size and detail look good. I compared this print to the Enforcers that I have still on the sprue and they are comparable size-wise, so I'm getting pretty close to done with the base design.
Also, very, very early work:
(https://i.imgur.com/N09YKMB.jpg)
Feedback welcome, as always.
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They look cool, but why so big?
I am also not a big fan of the look of new GW plastics (happy for the fact we have plastic arbites, but the old ones had better design), but for me a head swap will be enough.
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They look cool, but why so big?
I am also not a big fan of the look of new GW plastics (happy for the fact we have plastic arbites, but the old ones had better design), but for me a head swap will be enough.
I want them to be a bit on the beefy side, but as I mentioned, the Cadians seem smaller than other human sized models. I need to get a few more of my unaltered human 40K figures built to compare to. Once I do that I can make final comparisons and readjust if necessary.
I thought about trying to just do a head swap also, but the new design is just too far away from what I want.
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I want them to be a bit on the beefy side, but as I mentioned, the Cadians seem smaller than other human sized models. I need to get a few more of my unaltered human 40K figures built to compare to. Once I do that I can make final comparisons and readjust if necessary.
New Cadians are pretty decent 30mm eye level figures, maybe a little bit higher than the old ones. Less beefier though. Primaris marines are 36-37 mm eye levels, but they are intended to be superhuman half-giants.
I thought about trying to just do a head swap also, but the new design is just too far away from what I want.
They might need some of the striped knee/elbowpads too.
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I have to agree they do look big.
Arbites are human sized, I am not sure about current GW human figures, but have they suffered scale creep?
Arbites have carapace armour so should be about the size and bulk of the Imperial Guard equivalent (whose name eludes me).
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I really like your Judge Captain - the pose and feel is excellent. For me, I think you could add more definition on his fur, as well as softening the cloth with some folds to help distinguish it from the hard carapace armour.
Scale is totally a point of preference, but as someone who he's RT scale figures in the main, I'd want him at about 60% of your print size if he was in my collection :D
Looking forward to seeing how this project progresses.
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I have to agree they do look big.
Arbites are human sized, I am not sure about current GW human figures, but have they suffered scale creep?
Arbites have carapace armour so should be about the size and bulk of the Imperial Guard equivalent (whose name eludes me).
Kasrkin are the Guard Carapace Armored troops. I don't have any of the Kasrkin to compare to but the new Enforcers and the Kasrkin are the size I will be shooting for. This print matches decently well to the Enforcers on a bit by bit basis. Ultimately, I want them to be big bruiser types, but still not Space Marine (or Goliath...) sized.
I think it looks extra huge too because it is standing straight up. It will match better once it is posed I believe.
I really like your Judge Captain - the pose and feel is excellent. For me, I think you could add more definition on his fur, as well as softening the cloth with some folds to help distinguish it from the hard carapace armour.
Scale is totally a point of preference, but as someone who he's RT scale figures in the main, I'd want him at about 60% of your print size if he was in my collection :D
Looking forward to seeing how this project progresses.
I actually am thinking of leaving the fur like it is and representing a more wooly type fur rather than hairy, if that makes sense.
This is still very WIP so the coat is just blocked in. No detail at all really.
If I put this out into the wild, I will consider making a smaller version since I'm sure you are not alone.
Thanks everyone for stopping by.
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New Cadians are pretty decent 30mm eye level figures, maybe a little bit higher than the old ones. Less beefier though. Primaris marines are 36-37 mm eye levels, but they are intended to be superhuman half-giants.
They might need some of the striped knee/elbowpads too.
The Arbites is about 36mm to the eye here, but he is standing straight up. I will definitely reevaluate though, once I have more stuff to compare with.
Actually, the helmets with the knee and elbow pads could work. I'm trying to find some of the new Arbites, but they are proving elusive unless you are willing to spend 2x the price.
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The Arbites is about 36mm to the eye here, but he is standing straight up. I will definitely reevaluate though, once I have more stuff to compare with.
I measured both the Cadians and the Primaris standing straingt up, thats how the values above come. New Necromunda Enforcers are 32mm to eye level.
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I measured both the Cadians and the Primaris standing straingt up, thats how the values above come. New Necromunda Enforcers are 32mm to eye level.
Intersting. How did you go about that? I've tried measuring bit by bit (leg, thigh, torso, etc.) and haven't really gotten good, consistent results myself. I'd love to know your method, it would make my life a lot simpler. lol
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Intersting. How did you go about that? I've tried measuring bit by bit (leg, thigh, torso, etc.) and haven't really gotten good, consistent results myself. I'd love to know your method, it would make my life a lot simpler. lol
I have straight up standing figures from the Cadians and Enforcers, simply measured them with a caliper probe lol . Measuring bit-by-bit usually gives a bigger result. Drawing dollies also helps, thats how I set the size for my sculpts.
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I have straight up standing figures from the Cadians and Enforcers, simply measured them with a caliper probe lol . Measuring bit-by-bit usually gives a bigger result. Drawing dollies also helps, thats how I set the size for my sculpts.
I'll have to try to find those straight standing figures. The ones I have are all standing with their legs spread fairly wide. I use a base for my figures too, but that doesn't help when figure lines are different sizes. I suppose I am trying to be much more precise than I need to be, but it seems I can't help it. lol
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Absolutly obsessed with this project, I wish I could get my hands on that Judge Captain
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Absolutly obsessed with this project, I wish I could get my hands on that Judge Captain
Sorry for the exceedingly late reply. As soon as I am finished with and satisfied with the test prints, I will be making pretty much everything I do available...somehow. Just not sure of the best vehicle for that just yet.
Some general SciFi stuff:
I have always had in the back of my mind a Grim-Pulp Sci-Horror setting. I'll be mixing inspiration and homages from: Masters of the Universe, Star Wars, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, Lovecraftian Horror, Warhammer 40K, and various other 80s and 90s Pulp and Scifi.
Blasters and Bulkheads from Scott Pyle seems like a near perfect fit, but I may create a modified version of Supersystem to enable a more robust character creation system for myself.
Anyway, here are wome WIP sculpts for this project:
(https://i.imgur.com/boVnIA3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/t7uSP69.jpg)
Baroness Ramiela Altari of the Galactic Hegemony.
Her design is inspired by Evil-Lyn, pulp scifi rocket troops, and an iron maiden.
(https://i.imgur.com/TnEv8KA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0r7unbJ.jpg)
Kroosh, the Baroness' henchman.
His design is inspired by Beast-Man, Ookla the Mok, and
(https://i.imgur.com/lw33WdB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sBJe6Xy.jpg)
Last for the bad guys is the Heavy Trooper. I envision this group as the Necromancy using faction in the setting. Hence the ham-fisted attempt to add a skeletal motif to these guys. I think I am going to remove that and just make them as faceless and bland as I can. Then make skeleton robots. lol
(https://i.imgur.com/Q0KoFQG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/43y5ee4.jpg)
Prince Adim Harbinger
Perhaps obviously, his design is inspired by He-Man (the 200s version), Luke Skywalker, and Flash Gordon (this part perhaps not so obvious until paint).
I have a test print of Kroosh done, and as soon as I get pictures of it I will add them.
Thanks all for stopping by.
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What program are you using to do these?
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What program are you using to do these?
zBrush. I intend to learn Blender as well eventually, but I keep putting that off...
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I like them!
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Great work on those Space Opera characters, hopefully there will be a Wilma Deering amongst them eventually. Good to see what you have been sculpting alongside the supers.
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I like them!
Thanks very much.
Great work on those Space Opera characters, hopefully there will be a Wilma Deering amongst them eventually. Good to see what you have been sculpting alongside the supers.
Thank you Rob. I imagine she will end up in here somewhere, but probably mashed-up with another character.
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Hey there,
I remember your great work on Warzone/Siege of Citadel minis and here is even more cool stuff. Big Critter is the best.
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Hey there,
I remember your great work on Warzone/Siege of Citadel minis and here is even more cool stuff. Big Critter is the best.
Thank you Manu. I would love to see your paintwork on the big guy some day.
Even though I am no fan of NMM, I really love all of your Mutant Chronicles paintjobs. You are one of the best miniature painters I have ever seen.
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Prints pictures finally...
(https://i.imgur.com/xAQOPWE.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Dci709n.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/sYi2Nmm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CHfHQ1a.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/YAPAYNN.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Y6D9hVG.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/tVBeYBR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yMFaxkz.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/mEL5PJo.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/yYIQlvH.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/SOhMZ2J.jpg)
The Grey Knight is bare resin. The others have a light white primer that doesn't look as bad in real life as it does in these pictures.
Thanks for stopping by.
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Very nice!
Mike Demana
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Very nice!
Mike Demana
Thank you very much.
I like the design that I settled on for the Grey Knight, but something about it was still off in my opinion. I saw some printed Space Marines on Instagram and then I knew what was bothering me: the design is not hefty enough. So, I made some parts thicker.
Original
(https://i.imgur.com/pvR4Wyn.jpg)
Changed
(https://i.imgur.com/sh2VHaJ.jpg)
Side by side comparison.
(https://i.imgur.com/Z1P0YWI.jpg)
These were given a grey primer and a was of AP Strong Tone to show the details. I am much happier with the changed figure. It seems to have a better sense of weight or solidity than before.
Small update, but I thought some might be interested. Thanks all for stopping by.
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I added some GW accessories to the adjusted figure and painted it. Here is the result:
(https://i.imgur.com/F9bzegU.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/QsIAXeG.jpg)
Shoulder Pads, Backpack and its decoration, Book, Knife, Keys, and Grenades are all GW bits. I need to adjust all the accessories that I sculpted to fit the new size, but I wanted to see a finished (sort of) product. I say sort of because I want to do another highlight pass and add some tufts to the base.
Here is a comparison with the older sculpt:
(https://i.imgur.com/viUHITq.jpg)
Here a comparison with the original sculpt:
(https://i.imgur.com/nCf5zrC.jpg)
Everything on the original sculpt is my work.
Here is a shot with all 3:
(https://i.imgur.com/UPs2xi9.jpg)
That's all for now. Thanks for stopping by.
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Like a good many folks, I was unsatisfied with the new Inquisitor Coteaz figure, and decided to make my own.
(https://i.imgur.com/GDhjc2c.jpg)
Test printing now. I will work on the cyber eagle and some acolytes at some point.
Thanks for stopping by.
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Coteaz printed:
(https://i.imgur.com/o2Sfzcc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GvgGSJO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/odbvinc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oTzYba1.jpg)
I have another pint of him that is about 5% smaller. I think he looks good next to the Enforcer but too big next to the Cadian.
Ramiela and Kroosh PIP:
(https://i.imgur.com/L7iDjzK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yeCMDtV.jpg)
Fairly happy with the progress here so far.
Thanks for stopping by.
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The Baroness figure has come out really nicely.
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Kroosh is fantasic, will he be available anywhere? in 28mm?
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The Baroness figure has come out really nicely.
Thanks Rob.
Kroosh is fantasic, will he be available anywhere? in 28mm?
Sure, why not? Space Critter (https://5226559980874.gumroad.com/l/yzvpj)
Keep in mind I am no supports expert but I haven't had any issues with test prints. Also, I am a one person operation so I can't make everything super cheap. Hopefully $5 US isn't too much to ask for him.
If you do get a copy, please share when you paint it.
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Keep in mind I am no supports expert but I haven't had any issues with test prints. Also, I am a one person operation so I can't make everything super cheap. Hopefully $5 US isn't too much to ask for him.
5 bucks is just fine.
I got him saved in my Wishlist for later.
Grimm
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5 bucks is just fine.
I got him saved in my Wishlist for later.
Grimm
Thanks! And please do share if you get it.
I also started working on my own version of Inquisitor Jaq Draco and some of his warband. I really enjoyed Ian Watson's novel. I read it not terribly long after it was released initially and then the updated Inquisition War series. One of the ideas that I had was for a What If? scenario where Draco used the Webway and general warp shenanigans to effect time travel to recollect his companions and re-enter the Imperium at the most updated time.
I also thought it would be neat if Lexandro crossed the Rubicon Primaris. Mostly I wanted an excuse to design a Space Marine. lol Since Space Marine Captains have access to Artificier Armor, I decided his should be made to resemble Mk 3 armor. Perhaps it was a favorite of his or something. Anyway, here is what I came up with:
(https://i.imgur.com/PuwQI6a.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Dg8EhqO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1z0klI7.jpg)
I'm hoping to get a print of him tonight.
I'd love to hear thoughts about the designs. Thanks all for stopping by.
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Hello again everyone.
I finally decided on a marine chapter for my "regular" marines: The Subjugators.
For fun, I worked up a color scheme card for them.
(https://i.imgur.com/22eXugG.png)
And I have also been making conversion parts for them. Shoulder pads so far.
(https://i.imgur.com/0cBp6O1.jpg)
I have some printed and a couple conversions started. Pics as soon as I can get some.
I also made some final edits to Inquisitor Coteaz:
(https://i.imgur.com/TF1qqhl.jpg)
His proportions have been adjusted, and his coat/cloak changed a lot to make printing and painting easier. I have a good print of him too, so, again, pictures of that as soon as I can.
Thanks for dropping by.