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Title: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 04, 2023, 02:48:26 AM
Hey all I've been enjoying all the star wars threads on this board for sometime so thought I should make a contribution.

I've been mucking around with 40mm (1/43rd scale) figures, vehicles etc mainly I as enjoy customising and scratch building but with a view to running a game or two eventually.

For some reason about a year ago I got really interested in this scale.  The figure size just works for me; not too big to inhibit terrain making, not too small that I can't see the fiddly bits

Rather than letting my crappy pics get in the way of starting a thread here's my first offering for criticism and critique :)

I am unfortunately an indifferent painter but I will gladly take advice to improve.

So I made this shuttle like it could be a Star wars version of a helicopter. I was inspired by the recent Andor series; a fast, small vehicle that could transport troops, supplies, pick up wounded, jump in an out of hot zones, be a forward command base etc.

I had an old kenner mini-rig which was pretty knackered so my goal was to try and use as much as possible in this build.  The wings move, you can remove the roof and it doesn't take up alot of table space.  Ideally the whole thing would be enclosed but I ran out of gas getting this far so stuff it, it's ray shielded or something :)

Oh yeah the rebel figure is a repurposed cheap 40mm airfix soldier rip off with a legion trooper head and a 3d printed rifle.


Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: tomrommel1 on August 04, 2023, 06:34:03 AM
nice indeed, especially the converted soldier
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 04, 2023, 06:41:16 AM
thanks Tomrommel1 I hope to add better pics at somestage which might encourage me to do a bit more painting :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 04, 2023, 07:34:09 AM
I like that  :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on August 04, 2023, 07:43:23 AM
Nice work.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 04, 2023, 07:52:52 AM
thanks you fullas!

Oshiro I follow your work on this board it's very inspiring cheers!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on August 04, 2023, 07:54:43 AM
nice work  8)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Elk101 on August 04, 2023, 08:18:45 AM
Great job on the shuttle!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: nozza_uk on August 04, 2023, 10:16:38 AM
Looks like I've some competition in the mini-rig conversion stakes!  lol

Fantastic job on that shuttle, it really looks the business.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 04, 2023, 10:51:11 AM
Wow thanks guys I appreciate all the feedback.  Akula yours is another very inspirational thread I follow (lurk in):)

Nozza have I seen your mini-rig conversion on your thread? I'd love to see what you've done. I've had my eye on that At-st-head-minirig thing wondering what could be done with that

Seeing your imperial army prints prompted me to get some done too. I had some skull forge army trooper files on a drive; just got the prints back today. I scaled them up to 105% which was a guess but they look really good suitable for 1/43rd.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: nozza_uk on August 04, 2023, 11:21:29 AM
Nozza have I seen your mini-rig conversion on your thread? I'd love to see what you've done. I've had my eye on that At-st-head-minirig thing wondering what could be done with that

Here you go https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=138889.msg1814080#msg1814080 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=138889.msg1814080#msg1814080).
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 04, 2023, 08:56:34 PM
Here you go https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=138889.msg1814080#msg1814080 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=138889.msg1814080#msg1814080).

That's a good conversion Nozza I really like what you did with the tank. Those edges in the rear that helped locate the action figure look like seats for smaller figures and it looks like there's a driver/gunner compartment in the front armoured bit with a gun either side of them nice!

Perhaps between us we could try getting through all the vintage mini-rigs?  :o
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Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on August 04, 2023, 09:18:46 PM
Very good shuttle.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: aliensurfer on August 04, 2023, 10:09:17 PM
That shuttle is brilliant.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 05, 2023, 05:02:58 AM
thanks very much to both of you. I will try and take better pics soon ha ha. 

I've always liked the nose the mini-rig and then I found this pic on-line. So I used the mini-rig as a base, extended the wings and reversed them.  The top of the shuttle is a mouse trap that had stopped working and had a nice look to it and I think the bottom ended up being an old light switch surround that was roughly the size I was after

I really like making stuff from found objects you never know how things will turn out.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: nozza_uk on August 05, 2023, 05:05:10 PM
Perhaps between us we could try getting through all the vintage mini-rigs?  :o

I've got a bit of a head start though.  ;)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l3Hg2zErUHw/XwbMSzsZX2I/AAAAAAAACAc/u7mzKSp23GwBB2CrxA4M02LYyW26_aWOACNcBGAsYHQ/s1600/1594281034359632-0.png)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6rWQLKToR9s/XwM87_Qf3hI/AAAAAAAAB_k/O5W4GZ5SIyQYSABs0JRuJavn7MYIiEzWgCNcBGAsYHQ/s1600/1594047725737438-0.png)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v8MkQzHprso/XwQ8WVCMyuI/AAAAAAAAB_4/HVbBrk0bmh0wtyaCaJOdl0RrU9ZfsD3VwCNcBGAsYHQ/w500-h375/1594113108809109-0.png)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 05, 2023, 08:53:24 PM
ha ha you do indeed :)  I like the grimy look you've given them it gets them away from looking like toys
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: hubbabubba on August 06, 2023, 10:18:08 AM
Nice shuttles all.

Do you have any scale phtos of the Shatterpoint figs?
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 07, 2023, 08:01:49 AM
Hey Hubba I don't have any shatterpoint figures yet (I am waiting for the OT ones) but you can google shatterpoint miniatures scale comparison and you'll find some good images. 

My impression is that they are about the same heft as legion figures just longer arms and legs and a bit more dramatic in the poses.  I have converted a few legion figures to 40mm so hope they will be compatible (enough)

Wonder when these guys will be released?

Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 11, 2023, 12:58:54 AM
Hey all my next offering: crashed Xwing.  I guess this would make a good objective marker or terrain piece. 

I have a limited budget for this hobby so I like to use what I've got or what I can get cheaply to fill out my collection leaving money to spend on figures etc.

So rather than spend heaps of money on a legion piece of terrain I repurposed a cheap (and knackered) hasbro xwing and took some casting off an old MPC xwing kit which is 1/43rd scale and a perfect fit :)

With a fair bit of cutting, a few cock ups, and plenty of glue you can get a 1/43rd scale xwing out of this toy.  I ended up using the xwing model engine fronts and guns, scratch building a canopy from an old cd case, casting the top detail on the main body and a few bits and pieces.

Not perfect but not bad I reckon.  I could have done a better job on the base i think. I'm planning to add a wounded pilot at some stage.  Sigh it's hard to actually finish these projects.

The figures in the pics are some 3d printed probe droids with a WOTC one. I'm my opinion the WOTC probe droid is ideal for 1/43rd.

The rebels are converted army men again with sculpted heads and 3d printed guns. These were my first attempts at making some rebels before I found that legion figures are basically 1/43rd figures with short legs ha ha :D

Fortunately my camera was particularly blurry on the rebels which obscures my painting a bit.

Ok comments and criticisms please. Help me make my stuff better cheers!

Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: tomrommel1 on August 11, 2023, 06:26:19 AM
nice additions
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Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on August 11, 2023, 07:30:52 AM
 Excellent work.   :-*
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on August 11, 2023, 11:32:28 AM
Ok comments and criticisms please. Help me make my stuff better cheers!

Firstly great job on the x-wing.

re: comments/suggestions - personal choice, but I prefer a bit more of a base on my terrain...it is a tradeoff between gaming & the look, but a bigger base allows you to have a bit of fun with the terrain...you could for example plough up the ground to show the force with which the x-wing impacted.

 :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 11, 2023, 09:33:58 PM
Firstly great job on the x-wing.

re: comments/suggestions - personal choice, but I prefer a bit more of a base on my terrain...it is a tradeoff between gaming & the look, but a bigger base allows you to have a bit of fun with the terrain...you could for example plough up the ground to show the force with which the x-wing impacted.

 :)

Thanks everyone for comments.  Hey Akula yeah I don't think i got the base right it does need more ploughed up earth around it maybe more of a trail behind it to make it more believeable. So thanks I will try and build it out a bit more

I was really surprised how much of the hasbro toy fit 1/43 scale.  The rear engine parts are untouched, some of the paneling didn't need much changing and the nose cut down really easily.

For weathering I did the usual paint stuff but I've left the X-wing out in the workshop so it's covered in dust, birds have landed on it at some stage, there's some dead spiders in beween the wings ha ha.  Natural weathering I call it.....
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Post by: jhonpog on August 18, 2023, 03:38:31 AM
Hey all turns out I am doing a weekly update :D

Welcome back to my slightly washout/ blurry photo thread of 40mm near-as-damn to legion or shatterpoint SW figs and terrain

Here's my imperial watch tower. I made this after watching this excellent video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekTcneGDSo0&t=37s

I made it out of mdf, card and plastic stock plus whatever bits and pieces i could find. I am very short of decent SW looking greebles and  must put some time into accumulating decent dressing for my terrain.  LMK if you have any questions good folk.

I decided to make the tower in separate pieces so they could act as platforms.  Eventually I will get round to 3d printing or scratch building a turbo laser for the top to replace the lookout to be another objective/ terrain option.

The little guy in the top of the tower and the bloke next to the 3d printed e-web are from ummm skull forge. With a 5% bump in size they scale nicely to 1/43rd

 
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 18, 2023, 04:29:36 AM
having trouble uploading images :).......

gah! it keeps saying

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Path cannot be empty

any ideas what I'm doing wrong........ok it works now
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Post by: Cypher226 on August 18, 2023, 09:46:24 AM
having trouble uploading images :).......

gah! it keeps saying

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any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

I've seen a post on another thread there's an issue at the moment with the site, the mods are looking into it.
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Post by: jhonpog on August 18, 2023, 08:49:49 PM
ok thanks cypher i'll have another go
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Post by: tomrommel1 on August 21, 2023, 07:58:31 AM
nice tower!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on August 21, 2023, 09:03:39 AM
Good work on the tower - looks just the part

 8)
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Post by: jhonpog on August 22, 2023, 07:04:38 AM
Thanks guys I imagine a really large imperial lander ship dropping these things on planet to create instant lookouts and strung together to make fortifications.

Like most of my stuff I'm never 100% happy I'd like to redo the top bit or at least add in more detail :)
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Post by: zemjw on August 22, 2023, 04:16:05 PM
It's worth having a look at the Fortnite Battle Royale Tower - amazon link (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fortnite-63510-Battle-Royale-Collection/dp/B07L3PZ95B/ref=sr_1_4)

I bought a couple for 28mm figs (from an old thread on here), but they're shown with 50mm figs on the product page, so would probably work

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71bH0Zufl8L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 23, 2023, 07:25:34 AM
yeah nice one zemjw they definitely look the part.  They'd make a great base for watchtowers or all sorts of things. Thanks I'll check them out
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 24, 2023, 04:58:59 AM
Hey all here's another thing I made not too long ago. I am slowly making my way through my 40mm builds and have a few WIPS that I hope to get finished in time to post :)

Alot of my stuff is fairly scale agnostic and works ok for 32mm, 40mm and in some cases 54mm which is where I started before discovering the joy that is 1/43rd :D

I'm waiting patiently for shatterpoint to release some OT figures so in the meantime here's a dwelling I made after watching this guy on the youtubes:

https://www.youtube.com/@PolyChopShop

I find his process of building really interesting and it motivated me to try something similar. This dwelling is made from a repurposed wall heater control boxes plus a bunch of greebles and some 3d printed SW doors to give it a more star warsy feel.

I would like to add some more detailed greebles like door locks etc but haven't found anything suitable yet.

Pictured are 4 modified Skull Forge stormtroopers unjustly arresting an innocent ithorian.  The ithorian is my attempt at sculpting.  I'm pretty happy with how the little guy turned out but it's HARD to sculpt ha ha.

The stormtrooper conversion was basically adding roughly 2 or 3mm to the lower leg. It makes them look alot better; oh yeah i got them printed at 105% too.  All in they stand at about 42mm which is bang on in my opinion.

OK here's hoping pics work today....... success!

The weathering for this dwelling was my leave-out-in-shed-for-2-months-and-see-what-happens technique



Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 24, 2023, 05:00:35 AM
And the figures. the leg extensions didn't go as well as I had hoped but they do the job
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Daeothar on August 24, 2023, 10:39:58 AM
I know you've moved on to other parts of this project by now, but I have to ask you how you went about converting that shuttle you opened this thread with.

I sort of recognize what you did with the Mini Rig body and the wings, but how did you go about building the cargo part of the shuttle?

Asking for a friend... :D
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 24, 2023, 10:02:56 PM
Hey Daeothar happy to help out your mate :).  And also I'm really glad that they like the build so much awesome!

OK umm.....for the body I found an old light switch cover that ended up being the floor but you could easily scratch build something.  The main part of the roof is an old mouse trap and the lid of the trap ends up sitting on top of the mini rig.

The wing holders are just cut pieces of pvc pipe that conveniently fitted the roller part of the wings. 

Then I made 4 frames all the same: rear frame was solid, back end of opening was hollow (and I put some greebles in their to look like machinery), front of opening frame was hollow, front frame was solid but with an opening to match the aback of the mini rig.

The frames are made with that expanded styrene sheet. I think it's called pailite.  2mm and 3mm sheets very easy to work with

Oh yeah the wings I ended up extending with plastic card and bits and pieces it just looked better.  And I used the interior rollers for the wings to be part of the engines plus the obligatory superglue caps at the front.  The wing length ended up being 120mm including the bent bit.

I'll take some more pics and if your friend does make one please post pics I'll love to see another take on this shuttle. 

Yeah overall I'm happy with the end result; a better paint job would make this things look awesome! I am tempted to make another :O
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on August 24, 2023, 10:05:45 PM
ooh look here's the mouse trap I used:

https://www.amazon.com/Victor-M123SSR-6-Pack-Quick-Kill-Mouse/dp/B09LDHP97G/ref=sr_1_12?keywords=plastic%2Bmouse%2Btrap&qid=1692911065&sr=8-12&th=1

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Post by: jhonpog on August 24, 2023, 11:07:26 PM
here's a couple more pics with dimensions and side detail of mouse trap
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Post by: Daeothar on August 25, 2023, 08:33:48 AM
Thanks for explaining and the helpful pictures! :)

I think it's a testament to your skills that I had a very hard time finding where your scratchbuild ends and the toy begins. The use of the mousetrap is also inspired. I have myself a huge box of interesting shapes and useful gubbins I occasionally dig into. Looks like your mousetrap came from the same environment ;)

Again; great work! 8)
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Post by: jhonpog on August 25, 2023, 09:28:18 PM
wow thanks very much Daeothar glad you found it useful. Yeah like you I do like using found objects in build and conversions. cheers!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 01, 2023, 02:01:26 AM
Hey all here's a comms tower I made awhile ago.  The base is a random hardfoam casting I have had for years, the top is the insides of a broken door handle plus pipe, wire bits and pieces.  I has a convenient sniper platform but I admit there's no ladder   :D

It's pretty tall about 450mm. At some point some connecting walkways would be good i reckon

Troops are converted repro airfix soldiers (conveniently 40mm) with head swaps and 3d printed guns etc for the rebels and a few more imperial troopers (my favourite) from skullforge

I painted this mainly with spray cans in my usual washed-out way. I try to make my pieces are environmentally-generic so I can use them for different terrain.
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Post by: tomrommel1 on September 01, 2023, 06:42:05 AM
^nice
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Post by: AKULA on September 01, 2023, 07:41:24 AM
very inventive - particularly like the comms tower

 :)
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 01, 2023, 08:08:13 AM
The project is coming along nicely  :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 01, 2023, 11:32:55 AM
Thanks everyone :)  I've got a few more things I've built/ am building but I need to get some more imperial troopers etc to face off against my rebels. I feel like I'll never stop making terrain ha ha too many projects
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 08, 2023, 06:05:03 AM
Hey all smaller contribution from me today.  First are some pics of a 3d printed at pt to support my imperial troops.  I really like the Atpt ever since WEG SWMB added it to their rules and minis.  It’s small enough to field on the table and big enough to look like a piece of light armour.
I think these walkers fit well with my idea of the imperial army who would try and get their hands on anything they can to maintain control on occupied planets or to support any pacifications. 😊
I got the file from thingiverse and printed it on my fdm printer.  The detailing was pretty basic so I added alot of cardstock plating, a spare mg34, ammo box, backpack and an aerial. I own chickens and after one of them sent the atpt flying I have recently repaired the broken front gun gah!

Second is a repulsor sled inspired by the most excellent Andor series.  I just made it out of junk really; model kit sprues and parts, a spare r2d2 head and an old resin casting for the base. The garindan is another sculpting attempt...he’s.....ok?  They never turn out as good as I hope ha ha

The droids are a 3d print of the R1 and a salvaged c3p0 droid from the vintage diecast landspeeder; one of the few toys or models that is close to 1/43rd.  The metallic finish on that guy makes painting easy
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on September 08, 2023, 07:34:49 AM
Excellent work. I particularly like the AT-PT.   :-*
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Post by: AKULA on September 08, 2023, 07:52:15 AM
A great update  8)

Love the walker, but my particular favourite is the repulsor sled because its a really inventive use of scrap sprue etc
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: nozza_uk on September 08, 2023, 09:45:28 AM
Love the walker, but my particular favourite is the repulsor sled because its a really inventive use of scrap sprue etc

Loving the latest update too, but that sled is a genius idea! I've got sprues and spare plasticard floating around, so will give it a go.

Thank for the inspiration.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 08, 2023, 11:12:44 AM
Thanks very much Mad lord Akula and Nozza:).

I'm planning on printing another at pt or so and maybe doing a bit more customising.  SW lends itself to WW2 aesthetics not surprisingly so all those tank model kits are really useful!

When I saw that episode of Andor with the passenger sleds I liked the 'frontier'  look; that thing that the OT was so good at high tech and low tech the used future all in one thing. I don't think i got very close to what was on screen but I imagine you could make all sorts of variants and they'd make great scatter

Hey Nozza please share what you build  :o

I think a game with 6 to 8 atpts versus hidden rebel heavy weapons teams (a bit like in the jedah scenes of rogue 1) would be a fun game to play out
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Post by: Freddy on September 08, 2023, 09:21:34 PM
I like them, especially the junk sled!
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Post by: jhonpog on September 09, 2023, 05:55:51 AM
Cheers Freddy!
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Post by: jhonpog on September 15, 2023, 01:36:08 AM
Hey all my weekly update.  Not a particularly creative build but I thought I would post anyway.  This bunker started off life as a 1/32nd scale building and lanquished unfinished for a good 3 years or so. Since making the switch to 1/43rd scale I have attacked this bunker with saws, files and foul language in order have it lanquish unfinished in this new scale ha ha

It's not super accurate but I did have fun researching the building.  I really like the legion version of the bunker but I think my one is bigger and it's definitely cheaper :)

Constructed mainly from mdf and cardstock plus my usual spray can/ workshop dust paintjob.

The sharp eyed among you will notice the beautifully detailed bunker door and the sumptuous interior fit out.

The rebel troops pictured are the standard set of miniatures from the starter set with a bit of meddling.  I added roughly 4mm of height to the figures legs to get them more into scale. I personally think they look alot better with longer legs.  Once you add a 2mm base to replace the 5mm legion base they end up standing at about the same height.

I didn't like the leader miniature very much though. I couldn't figure out what that bloke was doing. Why are you standing up so straight?  How did you get your trenchcoat to move like that while you're standing still?  Take cover for goodness sake!  etc etc..... So I added a bothan head and some donor legs. He looks like he's making an effort now instead of leading from the back  :?

The gun metal fuel pods are kinder egg containers and pizza box plastic bracket things to stop the box touching the centre of the pizza (dk what they are called).

Anyway hope you like this one. I've printed up another at pt so I'll get that built up soon cheers
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Post by: tomrommel1 on September 15, 2023, 06:46:37 AM
very nice indeed :-*
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on September 15, 2023, 07:51:56 AM
Excellent work.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on September 15, 2023, 08:24:48 AM
Great job - real dedication to modify the figures

 :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 15, 2023, 09:06:32 PM
Thanks everyone :) I figured a bunker is a fairly useful bit of terrain. it combines well with my tower to make an instant imperial base. I'm going to add a landing pad at some stage....
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on September 16, 2023, 05:11:58 PM
Nice bunker and walker.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 18, 2023, 01:42:53 AM
hey i took a day off work today so thought i would share some WIP pics of some of the things I have been working on.

Apparently I like to start lots of projects at once; start something, get distracted, start something else, repeat :)

First up is a cargo lighter that I've buliding for a while.  It's based loosely on that transporter that you see on Ferrix in the Andor series and I believe it's based on a computer game.  I used that as inspiration for this one. The idea is that this lighter can land and drop off 20 cargo pods quickly.

In my brain it has magnetic locks (not built yet) that hold the pods in place (about halfway through making the pods).  Of course those pesky rebels now use this ship to run  equipment and supplies to insurrection units on various planets.

This thing...ok it's pretty big not terribly useful terrain but I don't overthink things these days :)

The shuttle's main construction is a timber frame with cannabalised nerf pistols and then the usual junk.  This is my favourite kind of thing to make.  Challenge will be to add some elements that give it a sense of scale

Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 18, 2023, 01:48:58 AM
Next up is a WIP light shuttle.  It's made from an old floor mop/ steamer body that I have been dragging around for more years than I'd care to count. But I finally using it so it's proof that all that hoarding is justified :)

I see this as a converted and upgraded clone wars era ship now doing covert ops for the rebellion.  TO me the body shape looks more like a republic era style and I've glued on a couple of nerf gun pieces to act as upgraded engines and ruining the look of the shuttle in the process.

This one may (or may not) have an interior.  I'm looking for an easy solution to an interior fit out so if anyone has any ideas like me know.

Once again this thing is pretty big probably not that useful on the table unless it's a terrain centre-piece.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 18, 2023, 01:51:39 AM
Next up is a......fuel tower?  Ha ha I'm not sure what the hell I am doing with this thing.

If anyone can help me finish this with some good ideas of what to do next let me know :)

Usual construction of pvc pipe/ waste plastic etc
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 18, 2023, 01:56:22 AM
Last up is a building that is at about the same level of completeness as the other projects.

Again made out of plastic waste, mdf and timber the idea is the building looks different on all four sides so it can be used in different ways. It also serves for figure storage like my bunker.

It has one neat feature that I'll show when I've finished it. Ideally I like to make two of these and make them stackable so it could be 2 storey or two city blocks etc. Once again you can see those imperial troops hassling that ithorian. What a bunch of punks.

OK I reckon that's enough slightly blurry pics for now.  Please let me know if you have any idea for things I could include on these builds. Cheers!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: tomrommel1 on September 18, 2023, 06:53:20 AM
nice builds
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on September 18, 2023, 07:32:24 AM
Very inventive - love the modular building, and the ship (in particular the internal shot)

 :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on September 18, 2023, 07:41:06 AM
Some great projects there, very inventive. I particularly like the cargo lighter.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Spinal Tap on September 18, 2023, 08:41:28 AM
There's something about repurposing junk and scratchbuilding that adds so much to terrain when compared to bought stuff.

I love the stuff you've done here.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: has.been on September 18, 2023, 10:49:56 AM
I like what you are doing, please keep it up.

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I'm looking for an easy solution to an interior fit out so if anyone has any ideas like me know.
As one who hates removable roofs 'so that I can place figures in' may I suggest that you make
a (or more than one for alternatives) floor plan. Place this at the side of the table & when/should
any figure enter the ship, move it to the floor plan. With alternative plans it is fun to see the look
of horror on players' faces when the interior is completely different from the last time they entered
this type of ship/building.

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If anyone can help me finish this with some good ideas of what to do next let me know :)
Just bung on a lid with a 'hatch'. I find that makes the terrain piece more usable.

keen to see what you choose to do, plus I want to see the finished items with their paint jobs.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 18, 2023, 11:11:02 AM
wow thanks everyone for the feedback.  I think I've put way more labour into the cargo lighter than the rest of the projects so far so I think it's my favourite.  I'll post more pics when it's done plus show how far I've gotten with the cargo pods.

Not sure if I've got that fuel tower thing right. I know what I'm trying go for but I'm not sure about the execution. It's about 400mm tall not sure if I want to make it any taller :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 18, 2023, 11:15:50 AM
I like what you are doing, please keep it up.
As one who hates removable roofs 'so that I can place figures in' may I suggest that you make
a (or more than one for alternatives) floor plan. Place this at the side of the table & when/should
any figure enter the ship, move it to the floor plan. With alternative plans it is fun to see the look
of horror on players' faces when the interior is completely different from the last time they entered
this type of ship/building.
Just bung on a lid with a 'hatch'. I find that makes the terrain piece more usable.

keen to see what you choose to do, plus I want to see the finished items with their paint jobs.

Thanks very much has.been for the suggestions. I hadn't thought about a floor plan that's a really good idea. It would make a static piece of terrain more interactive as opposed to another lump on the table :)

Yup I'm keen to see the paint jobs too! For the cargo lighter I'm going to go off whites, greys and lots of grime.  The shuttle I'm not sure but I'd like it to look like a republic era finish that's been heavily used.

For the building I'm thinking either concrete and metal finished or maybe try something a bit more cyberpunk. Dunno I'll see what happens when I get there I guess

Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 22, 2023, 01:42:22 AM
ok so instead of ploughing on with all my WIP projects i have been TOTALLY DISTRACTED this week with a 3d printed at st.

Thanks to Akula and Eilief for pics and advice but I also blame you both for making it too easy for me to start yet another project :D

With some good dimensions from Akula I've started hacking up the head of my 3d print and I will reprint the legs slightly bigger tonight.

I've made the head a bit shorter by 10mm and cut all the not-great detailing off the top.  I'm going to add slightly bigger armour plates to the sides and detail the top as close as I can be bothered to the legion/ bandai models.

I cut off the side gun and launcher, reduced the domes they sit on and reglued a bit lower on the head. 

My plan is to add baggage and bits and pieces to make this at st look like it's been used by the imperial army maybe rebuilt from a couple of damaged vehicles and cobbled together a bit.  Any suggestions let me know!

Finally I've made a bit of progress on my lighter I will post pics once it's in primer which is what i should be doing in the first place :)

 
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on September 22, 2023, 08:29:02 PM
Cool plan.

You could try the C3P0 look with an odd coloured leg.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on September 22, 2023, 08:58:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DEFSwJu.jpg)

doesn't look like you need any more measurements  lol
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 22, 2023, 09:02:18 PM
Cool plan.

You could try the C3P0 look with an odd coloured leg.

Thanks Ultra yeah it's a mess at the moment but that gave me the idea to keep going!

Agreed I think some colour differences in the parts of the at st will help sell that cobbled together look.  I've been raiding my sons model tank kits for parts to stick on and I think I'll add extra cables etc
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 22, 2023, 09:04:33 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DEFSwJu.jpg)

doesn't look like you need any more measurements  lol

ha ha just two more Akula if you don't mind :)  Length and width of the lower chasis/body would ease my mind..... o_o
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on September 22, 2023, 09:16:18 PM
ha ha just two more Akula if you don't mind :)  Length and width of the lower chasis/body would ease my mind..... o_o

ok, back home tomorrow, will measure then  :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 22, 2023, 10:28:31 PM
Cheers Akula!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on September 23, 2023, 12:53:27 PM
Sorted. Look forward to seeing the finished model  :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 23, 2023, 10:07:21 PM
Thanks Akula you've made this project heaps easier.  A couple of quick WIPS sorry the second is very blurry:

I've added some better looking armour to the sides, a copper wire rod on the top, some more plating then some bags, an mg34, a heat sink that I will join with top gun and a few bits and pieces. I think I'm going to add a cage or something up there for more gear. I didn't have a top hatch so nicked from a ww2 tank kit.

I've also added some extra plating here and there maybe they've had to repair this thing after combat a few times

At some point an enterprising imperial engineer as run new power cables to the side guns; maybe it makes them more powerful, maybe the original wiring is knackered who knows. They've also welded a cage to rear generator thing to stow tools and gear but that's pretty risky if you ask me!

I'll come back to the head but i'm onto the chasis now. I managed to print it at pretty much exactly the right size as a legion at st which is great but then I've cut a bit off that I didn't need to which is not great.



Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on September 23, 2023, 10:57:47 PM
Happy to be of assistance!

Great work on the model - the non-standard issue nature of some of the kit just adds to the character IMHO...on campaign troops quickly swop out gear that doesn't work, or are forced to replace worn out materials with locally sourced alternatives.

Are you going with the standard grey paint scheme or are you going to try something different?

 :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 23, 2023, 11:50:02 PM
Happy to be of assistance!

Great work on the model - the non-standard issue nature of some of the kit just adds to the character IMHO...on campaign troops quickly swop out gear that doesn't work, or are forced to replace worn out materials with locally sourced alternatives.

Are you going with the standard grey paint scheme or are you going to try something different?

 :)

Cheers Akula yeah agreed I'm going for the WW2 tank look by adding lots of bits and pieces.

I'm 100% sure but I think I'll paint it a bit like my at pt but maybe with some odd coloured legs or wherever I can pick out a separate component.  Then I might try a bit more rust and weathering/ chipping etc
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 25, 2023, 11:13:10 PM
more progress on this walker.  I am trying to get this done quickly so I can get back to my cargo lighter

I've definitely noticed that I run out of steam with projects, especially detailing, so I'm trying to get as much done as I can :)

I've added more baggage, another cage on the roof, more cabling and detailing, extra armour on the chasis and remade the neck out of wood. Oh yeah and a shovel and sledge hammer on the chasis, everyone needs one of those at some stage.  I don't have any but I'd like to add steel cables like tanks carry

Overall the walker is quite close to a legion one, within a few mm I'd say so I'm pretty happy with the proportions.

I attacked the thing with my dremel and a couple of bits. I didn't really over-think just added in lots of damage from fairly high powered blasters and grenades :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: tomrommel1 on September 26, 2023, 08:36:11 AM
really nice
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: zemjw on September 26, 2023, 09:21:01 AM
I don't have any but I'd like to add steel cables like tanks carry

You should be able to make your own by braiding strands of fuse-wire or beading wire. Basically, secure a few strands in a pair of pliers/bench vice, put the other ends in a pin-vice, and twist :D

Search Google or YouTube, as there will be folk out there explaining it better than I just did
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 26, 2023, 09:24:48 AM
Cheers TomR!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 26, 2023, 09:31:25 AM
You should be able to make your own by braiding strands of fuse-wire or beading wire. Basically, secure a few strands in a pair of pliers/bench vice, put the other ends in a pin-vice, and twist :D

Search Google or YouTube, as there will be folk out there explaining it better than I just did

oh nice once zem that's a great idea I will give that a go. I'd like to drape one maybe around the back of the head.

If anyone has suggestions for colour scheme's let me know! I'm looking at panzer tanks in grey at the moment :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on September 26, 2023, 10:33:56 AM
Great work, its really coming together - I'm thinking of a bit more customisation on my next AT-ST so watching with interest.

 8)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on September 26, 2023, 12:39:36 PM
Looking good.
  I don't have any but I'd like to add steel cables like tanks carry
My recipe for cables is as follows:
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Rubicon cable ends were used, the cable is brass wire. Holes are drilled into the hull a distance from end point (the distance being such that the cable ends will hook over the bracket and the ends of the wire). This secures the wire (the hole at one end is made very deep so that the wire can be tensioned by pushing the wire into the hole) and gives the impression the cable end is attached to the cable.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: zemjw on September 26, 2023, 01:19:17 PM
Lunch has improved my search capabilities, and I found this one on YouTube. I'm not sure I would do this with a small child nearby, but it's up to you  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0STEtVIzC-c
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Freddy on September 26, 2023, 05:30:30 PM
Great looking walker, I like the effort of detailing. Lucky having the same ww2 hand weapons in scale which were used by the special effects team of Lucas. (Star Wars special effects team was closer in time to ww2 weapons than we now are to the making of Star Wars, pretty weird...)
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I'm not sure I would do this with a small child nearby, but it's up to you
Yes, my thoughts also. But modelers work safety is not something you learn from youtube, I am shocked how many hobby influencers use superglue for terrain and basing in amounts any sane person would rather use PVA instead. They surely do not have termites and mice with all that cyanoacrylate fumes around.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 27, 2023, 04:41:13 AM
Great work, its really coming together - I'm thinking of a bit more customisation on my next AT-ST so watching with interest.

 8)
Cheers Akula yeah it's starting to look like something :)  I'd be keen to see what you come up with when you come up with it...
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 27, 2023, 04:42:42 AM
Looking good.My recipe for cables is as follows:

Thanks ultra I'll see what I've got in my workshop and give this a go
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 27, 2023, 04:46:16 AM
Lunch has improved my search capabilities, and I found this one on YouTube. I'm not sure I would do this with a small child nearby, but it's up to you  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0STEtVIzC-c

That's a good tutorial I like how he used the plastic ends on the wire I'll might have to see if I've got any of those lying around. Thanks!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 27, 2023, 04:48:53 AM
Great looking walker, I like the effort of detailing. Lucky having the same ww2 hand weapons in scale which were used by the special effects team of Lucas. (Star Wars special effects team was closer in time to ww2 weapons than we now are to the making of Star Wars, pretty weird...)Yes, my thoughts also. But modelers work safety is not something you learn from youtube, I am shocked how many hobby influencers use superglue for terrain and basing in amounts any sane person would rather use PVA instead. They surely do not have termites and mice with all that cyanoacrylate fumes around.

Cheers Freddy having a 3d printer has made me not worry about stuffing things up as much; I can always print another :)
I got a bunch of gun 3d printed in 1/43rd (ish) scale a while ago and they have lasted quite well.


Yeah agreed superglue is not PVA ha ha
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 28, 2023, 03:17:00 AM
Hey all a few more pics of the atst.  I'm looking for suggestions about paint this time :)

I've primed it and added lighter and darker shades of grey plus gun metal. The idea this walker has been rebuilt using parts from two other walkers and then patched with plasti-steel or whatever while on campaign.

I'm going to do a bunch of washes, dry brushing and weathering but if anyone has some cool ideas let me know before it's too late  ;D

Oh yeah I had a go at the steel cable. it came out ok? It gets a little lost at the moment I will try and pick it out with some rust or something

For a 3d print on a filament printer I'm pretty happy with it so far
cheers
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Freddy on September 28, 2023, 09:00:38 PM
Coming together nicely!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 29, 2023, 01:22:48 AM
Cheer Freddy!

Well I have managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with my paint job.....sigh......

Hasn't turned out quite how I would like it to. I am going to leave it for a bit but I think a repaint is in order.

I think the black wash I gave was a mistake which I was fighting for the rest of the job gah!

It looks better in person than the pics but I'm thinking a cleaner paint job then go for the paint chipping/ rust effects rather multiple shades of grey might be better.

Anyway stuff it I had lots of fun making this thing so far  :D
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: nozza_uk on September 29, 2023, 09:22:50 AM
I think you are being harsh on yourself. I'd be more than happy for that to be the centrepoint of any Imperial Remnant force or an Imperial Army that is at the far end of the supply chain.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 29, 2023, 09:41:17 AM
I think you are being harsh on yourself. I'd be more than happy for that to be the centrepoint of any Imperial Remnant force or an Imperial Army that is at the far end of the supply chain.
Cheers Nozza mate I guess we are our harshest critics :) 

Anyway I've already re-primed and based coated him ha ha! 

I wanted to go for a different finish than what I got so will have another go tomorrow if and when I can.  Plan is to lay off the black wash, repeat some of the panelling then got for dirt, rust, grime and chipping.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on September 29, 2023, 08:39:22 PM
That does look good as it is.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on September 29, 2023, 09:39:49 PM
That does look good as it is.

This

 8)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 30, 2023, 12:52:59 AM
Ah bugger.....well thanks for that nice feedback. Unfortunately that paint job is long gone ha ha. I am having another go. no doubt i'll end up where i started but let's find out shall we? lol
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 30, 2023, 09:09:38 AM
oh well for better or worse here's version 2 of the atst paint job! Overall I'd say I went too far on the first go and then not far enough on the second ha ha.

But anyway this was more of what I was trying for.  I'm going to call it a day on this or I'll never stop. I may print another at st sometime and have another go at heavier weathering but for now this one works better with my at pt

I've got a second at pt to work on next well maybe after the cargo lighter....

Thanks for all your comments and suggestions on this build it's been fun

Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on September 30, 2023, 10:40:59 AM
nice work mate.

 :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Pattus Magnus on September 30, 2023, 03:37:47 PM
Yes, that turned out great (both versions)! It looks like it has been through the wars. A great center piece for an Empire remnant force, at least until an AT-AT shows up  ;)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 30, 2023, 07:56:51 PM
nice work mate.

 :)
Cheers Akula!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on September 30, 2023, 08:02:01 PM
Yes, that turned out great (both versions)! It looks like it has been through the wars. A great center piece for an Empire remnant force, at least until an AT-AT shows up  ;)

Thanks Pattus yes a remenant AT AT would be nice :)  I think the old hasbro/ kenner sized ATAT would scale pretty well.  If I find a beater I may have a go  o_o

But the plan at the moment is to use the At st like a AT AT and the At pts like the At st :) What I mean is the at st will be the biggest vehicle on the table like legion I guess and it will be support by at pts.  Something like that.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on October 04, 2023, 11:52:06 PM
Hey all made a bit more progress on my cargo lighter.  It's more or less complete now with a coat of primer.  I realised I've forgotten to fill the screw holes so will do that before painting.

I do like the primer stage of making something. It always looks really nice before the exercise in dread that is painting :)

So this cargo lighter has a cockpit and small crew area in the front, lifesupport, comms etc in the middle then hyperdrive and engines in the back.  The side bits have vertical boosters in the front (to get the hell away from where the ship has landed in a hurry) then two big magnetic err mechanisms to hold cargo in place. 

I see this as a relief/ support ship that can drop supplies and gear or smuggle people in and out of contested systems etc

I've attached a bunch of arms front and back, top and bottom to get the idea of a clamp or lock or something on cargo.

I've made about 17 cargo pods so far mainly by cheating, a bit of 3d printing and then a few experiments.  I 'll post WIP pics of these tomorrow.




Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Pattus Magnus on October 05, 2023, 06:47:54 AM
That looks excellent! A good assortment of greeblies and surface details and I like the utilitarian style.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on October 05, 2023, 09:09:38 AM
Thanks Pattus yeah the classic star wars "guts on the outside" look :)

Using found objects as we all know makes this kind of build alot easier. I'm trying to be more patient with panelling and adding cables which I think make things more interesting
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 05, 2023, 10:40:53 AM
That's grand  8)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: AKULA on October 05, 2023, 10:50:59 AM
That cargo lighter looks outstanding already  :-*
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on October 05, 2023, 08:55:16 PM
Thanks very much Oshiro and Akula :)

I'm happy with it so far. But will it be useful as terrain?  I think the gaps in the ship will allow for game play and will make the table look suitably star warsy.  Then again on the other hand who cares! I enjoyed the making of thing which is a large part of the hobby for me :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: has.been on October 06, 2023, 01:29:31 PM
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I'm happy with it so far. But will it be useful as terrain?  I think the gaps in the ship will allow for game play and will make the table look suitably star warsy.  Then again on the other hand who cares! I enjoyed the making of thing which is a large part of the hobby for me :)/quote]

It will be great in a game. :-*
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Pattus Magnus on October 06, 2023, 06:00:04 PM
It seems like a viable terrain piece for games - easy to move figures through the spaces when the cargo modules are not on table. It also seems like when the cargo modules are there, the figures could move on top of them (depending on how flat they are).

It could be cool for scenario design- the players have to complete the mission and get clear before the ship takes off. Star Wars was always a bit fuzzy about how dangerous it is for people on the ground to be close to ship engines, but I wouldn’t want to be close to one when it lifted off… and standing on top of one the lifted off and headed for orbit doesn’t seem healthy either. Boba Fett might survive it with his rocket pack and sealed helmet, but less equipped characters would be f****d!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: BeardGoblin on October 06, 2023, 06:37:59 PM
But will it be useful as terrain?  I think the gaps in the ship will allow for game play and will make the table look suitably star warsy.  Then again on the other hand who cares! I enjoyed the making of thing which is a large part of the hobby for me :)

Ship looks amazing, and I'm sure it'll be great to play on/over/around.  As you say though, sometimes it's just the joy of the thing!

I feel I should recognise the part in the middle of the center strut - with the sloped front and 6 small oval porthole type windows on the chamfered edge (with the compressed air cannisters stuck either side) - can you remember what it's from?
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on October 06, 2023, 08:30:38 PM
It seems like a viable terrain piece for games - easy to move figures through the spaces when the cargo modules are not on table. It also seems like when the cargo modules are there, the figures could move on top of them (depending on how flat they are).

It could be cool for scenario design- the players have to complete the mission and get clear before the ship takes off. Star Wars was always a bit fuzzy about how dangerous it is for people on the ground to be close to ship engines, but I wouldn’t want to be close to one when it lifted off… and standing on top of one the lifted off and headed for orbit doesn’t seem healthy either. Boba Fett might survive it with his rocket pack and sealed helmet, but less equipped characters would be f****d!

Cheers Has.been and Pattus:)  Yeah that's a cool scenario idea or at least page of a mission for rebels. "get to the ship" is a versitle idea!

I wondered about using it in a game where the rebel player has to fix the damned thing to get it off the ground while holding off imperial agents etc. So fuel the ship, repair the life support etc etc
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on October 06, 2023, 08:34:23 PM
It looks good.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on October 06, 2023, 08:45:09 PM
Ship looks amazing, and I'm sure it'll be great to play on/over/around.  As you say though, sometimes it's just the joy of the thing!

I feel I should recognise the part in the middle of the center strut - with the sloped front and 6 small oval porthole type windows on the chamfered edge (with the compressed air cannisters stuck either side) - can you remember what it's from?

yeah if I never use it I wont mind to be honest :)

That part is from a nerf pistol. it was white and I think it was the top and back of one.  The round raised bit in the front from memory something attached to it. Or it slide over that part. Sorry can't be more accurate than that :)

Edit: the central parts where all from the same nerf. Then the two side bits were from two identical nerfs.  The back of the main body was a dark blue nerf.....ok it was mainly all nerfs ha ha!

I can take more pics if you want close ups of things Beardgoblin?

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Post by: BeardGoblin on October 07, 2023, 12:30:24 AM
yeah if I never use it I wont mind to be honest :)

The best builds do feel like that  8)

I can take more pics if you want close ups of things Beardgoblin?

Cheers!  Once I knew I was looking at Nerf Gun parts I could start seeing them  :D

No need for more pics ( I mean, unless you want, more pics is always good - but don't go out of your way for me - I'll savour the next update).  I was just having one of those moments where I knew I recognized it from somewhere and it would niggle me 'til I figured it out!
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Post by: jhonpog on October 07, 2023, 04:56:18 AM
The best builds do feel like that  8)

Cheers!  Once I knew I was looking at Nerf Gun parts I could start seeing them  :D

No need for more pics ( I mean, unless you want, more pics is always good - but don't go out of your way for me - I'll savour the next update).  I was just having one of those moments where I knew I recognized it from somewhere and it would niggle me 'til I figured it out!

:)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on October 12, 2023, 08:51:31 PM
took at run at painting the lighter over the last couple of days. Wow there's a lot to paint!

I've got to a table ready level, fairly happy with the look so far but I think it would benefit from a bit more grime and weathering (we'll see)

It's been a fun project so far. Next up is the cargo pods that go with it. i have about 18 so far I just need to force (no pun intended) myself to make 2 more..must push through.....

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Post by: AKULA on October 13, 2023, 08:00:24 PM
looking good mate  :)
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 13, 2023, 08:05:35 PM
 8)
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Post by: jhonpog on October 14, 2023, 02:50:56 AM
Thanks Akula and Oshiro!
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Post by: Malamute on October 14, 2023, 03:47:39 PM
Looking great so far :)
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Post by: jhonpog on October 14, 2023, 10:30:44 PM
Thanks Malamute cargo pods are next :)
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Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on October 15, 2023, 05:35:38 PM
Nice.

Looking forward to seeing the cargo pods.
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Post by: jhonpog on October 16, 2023, 07:24:29 AM
Cheers Ultra they are fairly well along but I admit I have cheated a fair bit :)
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Post by: jhonpog on October 19, 2023, 11:25:07 PM
Hey all here's the state of my cargo pods for the lighter.

I have tried a few different approaches to making these pods. I needed 20 in total to fit in between the gaps in the cargo lighters err 'arms'.

So that's alot of cargo pods to make. Here are my attempts :)

First up I did a mock up in corrugated cardboard boxing (light grey pod). I stuffed up the size so put it through the bandsaw and mucked around with it until I arrived at roughly a 90mm wide, 42mm high, 60mm deep pod.

Then I thought I'll make them out of cardstock (yellow and mid grey pods).  And they took way too long or I got too impatient.

So then I thought I'd make them out of wood and clad them in plastic.  But they ended up heavier than I wanted.

Getting desperate I turned to 3d printing. After finding a thingiverse file and changing the sizing I printed out a bunch of pieces. But realised it was going to take too long and use up too much filament I ended up finishing then in plastic-card.

So then I decide to cheat and made some 'background' pods out of plastic card that were long tubes of cargo pod shape that I will try and make look like separate pods. This gave me 10 of the 20 pods I needed.  Plus all the others thrown in gives me 18. Only 2 more to go!

Keeping the pods somewhat separated will mean I can use them in the lighter but also as terrain.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: Pattus Magnus on October 20, 2023, 12:05:59 AM
Those are looking good! I’m interested to see how they look with the cargo lighter once they’re all assembled.

Do you plan to paint them all a uniform colour, or will they be a mix of colours like modern intermodal freight containers?
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Post by: jhonpog on October 20, 2023, 01:42:13 AM
Thanks Pattus yeah as  group I think they work well.  I was thinking a bit varied might look better but probably keeping to whites, greys and yellow....or maybe washed out blue and red?

I just have to squeeze out 2 more pods then I will paint  o_o

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Post by: has.been on October 20, 2023, 07:35:42 AM
Those Pods do look the business. :)
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Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on October 20, 2023, 08:49:03 AM
Excellent work.   :-*
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Post by: jhonpog on October 20, 2023, 09:40:36 AM
Thanks guys I think a bit of paint and weathering and they'll do the trick
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Post by: AKULA on October 20, 2023, 07:02:04 PM
Those pods look the business  :)
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Post by: jhonpog on October 20, 2023, 08:18:55 PM
I just need to make 2 more Akula before I run out of motivation ha ha
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Post by: BeardGoblin on October 21, 2023, 12:44:49 AM
Oooh, the ship is looking very tidy indeed with paint on (not that it didn't before - you know what I mean!  8) ).

The cargo pods are shaping up nicely, really like the idea of having a couple of 'clusters' to bulk everything out, then adding some individual pieces to finish the look (and also save a ton of work!).
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Post by: jhonpog on October 21, 2023, 05:33:38 AM
Yeah thanks Beardgoblin that's what I was trying for; like background cargo pods that you can't see with some fancy ones to hide them :)

I'm pretty happy with it all so far though I think I might weather the ship down a bit more? o_o
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 21, 2023, 07:47:17 AM
They work well  :)
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Post by: jhonpog on October 21, 2023, 09:41:52 AM
Thanks again Oshiro it's great having you and the other high-level painters and modellers feedback :)
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Post by: jhonpog on October 27, 2023, 05:31:25 AM
Hi all no cargo lighter update today sorry....ok well other than one of my damned chickens jumped on it (it survived) and then I accidentally dropped a sheet of mdf on the back end (it broke).  Some superglue has basically repaired it but a few bits went flying no idea where they went ha ha.

Anyway a slight shift in focus for me as I prep my next project.  I have wanted to create a force of local militia/ armed citizenry types to augment rebel forces.  I like the endor commando/ rogue pathfinder troops but they are ..well... trained soldiers.  I'm interested in making some figures to represent regular people who have armed themselves against an occupying imperial force.

I've had alook around and there are 3d print options like twileks, mimbanese and others but they are very particular to one setting and I want figures that could work anywhere.

So my solution was to find figures that don't look alike but if I arm them with the same types of weapons and gear they will look like a unit of some kind. Or like irregulars or something.

Fortunately there is a source of 1/43rd scale figures to be found in the newer heroclix lines.  These figures are 40mm or more tall, have a nice heft and are easy to convert.  I have used a few for civilians but I had some left over in my figures scrap pile (pictured below).  I recently bought some GW soldier heads and pouches and I've ordered some 3d printed clone rifles and droid blasters.
Those GW heads are near perfect for 1/43rd scale. I also had a both head casting lying around so threw that in

My thinking is that most worlds affected by the clone wars would have piles of old clone rifles and droid blasters and perhaps a few enterprising folk have stashed and maintained these weapons incase of another invasion. SW preppers?

I have enough figures to make 7 or so of these armed citizens and here's my conversions so far.


 
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Post by: has.been on October 27, 2023, 06:32:07 AM
I like your thinking on this.
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Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on October 27, 2023, 07:53:43 AM
They are looking very impressive.
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Post by: jhonpog on October 27, 2023, 09:27:44 AM
Thanks has.been and mad lord! It took me a while to settle on civilian figures with matching weapons as an irregular force or resistance group. Maybe like the a french resistance group in WW2?

There are loads of heroclix figures that will work for this unit so I may order some more when I've finished these ones. I see them as low skill level but very high morale fighters which I think would be interesting to play with :)
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Post by: Malamute on October 27, 2023, 02:06:42 PM
Inspired idea!
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Post by: Freddy on October 27, 2023, 06:19:25 PM
Cool idea, a head and a weapon swap can easily improve a low quality sculpt/cast. I made a lot of bandits for my 1/35 postapo project this way.
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Post by: jhonpog on October 27, 2023, 06:57:13 PM
Thanks Malamute and Freddy!  Yeah I reckon once the clone rifles arrive it will make them a bit more star warsy with instantly recognisable weaponry.

Paint-wise I'm planning to use a bit more colour than usual. I'll probably use reds blues yellows and stay away from browns, greens and grays we'lll see :)
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on November 09, 2023, 10:53:07 PM
Hey all small update from me while I wait for my 3d printed rifles to arrive.

I've finished up the 'background' cargo pods on the lighter. Still haven't made the last 2 I need gah!

Here's what it looks like with cargo pods in place.  Not too bad? Very star warsy I guess.  Imperial trooper figure for scale.
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Post by: jhonpog on November 09, 2023, 10:57:10 PM
And why have 6 or 7 projects on the go at once when you could have 8 or 9?

I have a out-of-scale At rt toy from the Star Wars mission fleet line that I have no use for but after a bit of mucking around i think I can turn it into a droid load-lifter for a cargo dock or whatever.  possibly it could unload cargo from my ship, something like that.

All I've done so far is pull the front off plus a few guns etc then turned the body upside down. To me the  back of the at rt looks quite a lot like a droid head,  The plan will be to add some arms or forklift forks or something
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Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on November 10, 2023, 11:21:15 AM
The cargo ship is superb. Love the droid load-lifter.   :-*
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Post by: jhonpog on November 10, 2023, 06:53:38 PM
Thanks Mad lord!
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Post by: AKULA on November 10, 2023, 07:42:42 PM
Love the pod carrier - great work  8)
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Post by: jhonpog on November 11, 2023, 06:44:24 AM
Cheers Akula!
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Post by: BeardGoblin on November 11, 2023, 03:22:46 PM
Good to see the cargo ship survived the angry chicken and falling mdf!

Looking really good with the cargo pods in place, too  8)

Cargo droid is shapping up nicely - I'm trying to assemble something similar with an old WoTC 'Telosian Tank Droid' and the arms from a much older CAP-2 mini rig!
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Post by: jhonpog on November 11, 2023, 05:49:35 PM
Good to see the cargo ship survived the angry chicken and falling mdf!

Looking really good with the cargo pods in place, too  8)

Cargo droid is shapping up nicely - I'm trying to assemble something similar with an old WoTC 'Telosian Tank Droid' and the arms from a much older CAP-2 mini rig!

Thanks BG there's a couple of bits of the ship....somewhere.. when they turn up I'll glue them on :)

I'm thinking I might put a blue stripe or something on the ship to gitve it that 80's SW look we'll see.  2 pods to go must find motivation to make them i keep getting distracted by other projects.

I'd like to see your WOTC tank droid conversion I think the arms from that mini-rig would work well please share :)
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Post by: BeardGoblin on November 11, 2023, 11:31:55 PM

I'm thinking I might put a blue stripe or something on the ship to gitve it that 80's SW look we'll see.

Oh yeah, that'd look good - especially if you sponge/stipple it on to get that worn look!


I'd like to see your WOTC tank droid conversion I think the arms from that mini-rig would work well please share :)

I'll see what I can do - I was going to say I'm having to wait for the 80mm bases I ordered earlier to arrive - but I found the ones I was sure I had about 30 mins after ordering more!

Waiting for putty to cure on the robot atm.  I'll try get a lick of paint on it tomorrow!
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on November 13, 2023, 07:31:24 PM
Oh yeah, that'd look good - especially if you sponge/stipple it on to get that worn look!


I'll see what I can do - I was going to say I'm having to wait for the 80mm bases I ordered earlier to arrive - but I found the ones I was sure I had about 30 mins after ordering more!

Waiting for putty to cure on the robot atm.  I'll try get a lick of paint on it tomorrow!

Nice one looking forward to it. As we all know the only way to find those bases is to order more; it's all part of the process :)
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Post by: BeardGoblin on November 22, 2023, 02:05:17 PM
Hi @jhonpog - hope you don't mind me posting this in here - I don't have enough on the go atm to justify it's own thread.  It's also been sitting for a week waiting on me to have time to come in and finish the details/base, so I though I better post it w.i.p. or it might never happen!  If you'd rather I post it somewhere else, let me know and I'll move it  8)

Giant Cargo Robot in Progress:

(https://i.imgur.com/F3MU9b9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kBol3t6.jpg)

Made from a WoTC 'bendy' (the main body is hard plastic, the legs and other bits bendy vinyl) Telosian Tank Droid - body rotated forwards 90 degrees - with arms from an old Star Wars Mini-Rig toy, detailed with parts from 3 1/35 and 1/72 tank kits, and a couple of pieces from Ramshackle Games (the 'evetyone's second favourite ABC Warriror eyes, the vents on the back and the gubbins on the lower front protrusion).

Generic Pilot dude from Stargrave plastics for scale.
Title: Re: Star wars Legion (ish) Shatterpoint (ish) scale thread
Post by: jhonpog on November 22, 2023, 06:50:01 PM
wow that's a really nice conversion BG I do like the way you rotated the body of the droid; I couldn't recognise the donor figure.  The mini rig arms work perfectly too very nicely done.

Also the size and the paint job look bang on too. I'll have to make sure my conversion is as good!

Happy to have this fine conversion in my thread; hopefully someone will mistake it for my work  ha ha
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Post by: BeardGoblin on November 23, 2023, 02:07:36 AM
wow that's a really nice conversion BG I do like the way you rotated the body of the droid; I couldn't recognise the donor figure.  The mini rig arms work perfectly too very nicely done.

Glad you like it!

Also the size and the paint job look bang on too. good!

Paint is just liquid talent Nazdreg Yellow over Vallejo Ivory, with about 8 layers of Golden Yellow (an ancient Miniature Paints brand colour I'm surprised is still viable, I've had it so long!) drybrushed over it with a big soft make-up brush.  Still needs some decals/transfers (just random numbers and warning panels, if I can scare some up from somewhere), then chipping and weathering.

I'll have to make sure my conversion is as good!

I'm sure it will be - your builds are good stuff, and very inspiring!


Happy to have this fine conversion in my thread; hopefully someone will mistake it for my work  ha ha

I won't tell anyone if you don't  ;) 8)
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Post by: jhonpog on November 24, 2023, 02:36:02 AM
Nice one BG thanks for sharing your paint scheme yes I will happily unjustly claim ownership :)

Got some painting done today on my armed civilian group. I have 7 of these guys plus 5 or 6 mercs and about 12 unarmed civilians so I can now make a decent semi-armed civilian mob to face off against imperial troops or to support rebel troopers etc. They could also double as a ship crew as well.

The 3d printed guns and the GW pouches (carried on the back of most of the figures) that help unify them I think

I had a go at the slap chop method of painting. It went......ok?  I didn't do a great job and ended up painting over lots of things but it does give a decent contrast quickly so I might keep aspects of this.  The skin tone I used went very brown which will be useful in future painting but I ideally I would like to mix it up a bit.

Anyhow for a bunch of scrap/ cheap figures with some GW grafts I think they will do the job nicely.
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Post by: BeardGoblin on November 25, 2023, 03:07:56 PM
These guys are cool - I've enjoyed watching them transform from a random pile of mini's, spares and leftovers into a motley crew 8)

For such an eclectic assortment of parts, they really come together and form a cohesive yet diverse rebel rabble.  Impressive.  Most impressive.
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Post by: AKULA on November 25, 2023, 03:30:23 PM
Love the armed civvies - great work mate  8)
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Post by: jhonpog on November 26, 2023, 06:09:52 AM
Thanks BG and Akula yeah I hope to add to this group as I go I have a bunch of head and blaster left over so will wait for suitable donors to sacrifice I mean convert :)
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Post by: rumacara on December 02, 2023, 07:38:19 AM
Great work all around. :-* :-*
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Post by: jhonpog on December 03, 2023, 04:42:43 AM
Thanks Rumcara I have had a lot of enjoyment so far randomly making things with no real direction other than SW and 1/43rd scale :)