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Miniatures Adventure => Railway Wargaming => Topic started by: Bullshott on November 09, 2009, 09:37:41 PM

Title: 1829 toy train conversion
Post by: Bullshott on November 09, 2009, 09:37:41 PM: I picked up this at the weekend, while at an Auchan hypermarket in France:

http://www.hktdc.com/dir_en_manufacturer/Hong_Kong_1829_Locomotive_Suppliers.htm (http://www.hktdc.com/dir_en_manufacturer/Hong_Kong_1829_Locomotive_Suppliers.htm)

I plan to use it for some Victorian Science Fiction games. The coaches are fine for 28mm - they just need a repaint. However, the engine is massively over scale (due to the need to fit 2 x AA batteries), so I intend to convert it by adding a cab.

Does anyone have any good links to pictures of early engine cbs that i might be able to use as a basis for my conversion?
Title: Re: 1829 toy train conversion
Post by: former user on November 16, 2009, 05:41:04 PM: the early engines look just like this, but half the size

the only thing You can do is add a cabin
or You want to do heavy conversion work?
here are some old designs
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Steam_locos.jpg)
otherwise I would go for a Crampton, that look like a paddle steamer
(http://www.victorianweb.org/technology/railways/1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1829 toy train conversion
Post by: Bullshott on November 22, 2009, 11:17:39 AM: Quote from: former user on November 16, 2009, 05:41:04 PM
otherwise I would go for a Crampton, that look like a paddle steamer
(http://www.victorianweb.org/technology/railways/1.jpg)

Thats the sort of cab I will probably go for - basically extend the floor space back and outwards a bit, then enclose it with half-height front and side panels.

In England we have working reproductions of old locos in museums, including the Rocket and Iron Duke. I will have to look closely at pictured of these to be able to fit my engine out with controls and other cab fittings. I think ths could be a good project for the Christmas break ;)
Title: Re: 1829 toy train conversion
Post by: Thunderchicken on November 22, 2009, 01:45:43 PM: I love no.4 in the picture posted by former user. Can anyone translate what it says? (I've got the Atlantic bit ;)).
Title: Re: 1829 toy train conversion
Post by: Totleben on November 22, 2009, 02:18:02 PM: Quote from: Thunderchicken on November 22, 2009, 01:45:43 PM
I love no.4 in the picture posted by former user. Can anyone translate what it says? (I've got the Atlantic bit ;)).

The text below nr. 4 merely says american engine (паровозь = engine)

I love it too
Title: Re: 1829 toy train conversion
Post by: former user on November 23, 2009, 05:11:39 PM: the red Crampton is only an example
try googling for pictures, You will find more exaggerated VSF versions

btw, these were the first high speed passenger locos, so very suitable for VSF
Title: Re: 1829 toy train conversion
Post by: Mac Finn on January 30, 2010, 05:04:39 AM: Does anyone have a source for these in the States??

Sadly even the Western Express from Toy's R Us have stopped filtering through...

Thanks
Mac
Title: Re: 1829 toy train conversion
Post by: Doomsdave on February 18, 2010, 05:48:49 PM: Quote from: Mac Finn on January 30, 2010, 05:04:39 AM
Does anyone have a source for these in the States??

Sadly even the Western Express from Toy's R Us have stopped filtering through...

Thanks
Mac

You can still buy them online from Toys'R'Us:

http://www.toysrus.com/search/index.jsp?kwCatId=&kw=western%20express&origkw=western%20express&f=Taxonomy/TRUS/2254197&sr=1 (http://www.toysrus.com/search/index.jsp?kwCatId=&kw=western%20express&origkw=western%20express&f=Taxonomy/TRUS/2254197&sr=1)
Title: Re: 1829 toy train conversion
Post by: former user on February 21, 2010, 08:52:28 PM: thx for the link.

Did I miss it or do they not state the gauge?

becazse goldlok produces both 0 and G, and G would be too big