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Title: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: twrchtrwyth on October 11, 2023, 11:01:05 PM
Can anyone point me to a reliable source for the organisation and armament of the colonial marines in the Aliens film? Who was armed with what and which brick were they in? I have various conflicting sources. Thank you.
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: zemjw on October 12, 2023, 11:19:37 AM
There is an "official" Colonial Marines Technical Manual - Amazon UK link (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aliens-Colonial-Marines-Technical-Manual/dp/1781161313/ref=sr_1_1)

It claims to have what you want, and, if I can find the copy in my bookcase, I'll be able to confirm/deny that
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: twrchtrwyth on October 12, 2023, 02:37:29 PM
Thank you, I'll have a look for it.
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: Michi on October 12, 2023, 02:54:36 PM
There is an "official" Colonial Marines Technical Manual - Amazon UK link (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aliens-Colonial-Marines-Technical-Manual/dp/1781161313/ref=sr_1_1)

It claims to have what you want

I can confirm it's all in there...

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Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: twrchtrwyth on October 12, 2023, 03:01:36 PM
Thank you. That gives the standard organisation, but is there anything specific for the film Aliens?
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: Michi on October 12, 2023, 03:12:37 PM
This and organisation above platoon level is actually based on the movie. Do you ask for the names of the characters?

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Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: twrchtrwyth on October 12, 2023, 03:33:21 PM
I have all the names I think. Different sources have different people in different teams and armed with different weapons, some with the rifle and some with the flamethrower. The only consistent thing is the 2 armed with the heavy weapons.
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: Michi on October 12, 2023, 03:40:53 PM
I have all the names I think. Different sources have different people in different teams and armed with different weapons, some with the rifle and some with the flamethrower. The only consistent thing is the 2 armed with the heavy weapons.

No names from the movie in the book. It is simply indormarion about organisation, armament, ammo, vehicles, spacecraft and tactics.
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: zemjw on October 12, 2023, 03:43:46 PM
One of my favourite bits of Aliens trivia is that each character's initial on the life monitoring thing is the actual initial of the actor's real first name (apart from Hicks, I think) ;D
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: twrchtrwyth on October 12, 2023, 03:44:45 PM
I was hoping not to have to try and watch the film over and over to get the information, lol.
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: Michi on October 12, 2023, 03:47:45 PM
I was hoping not to have to try and watch the film over and over to get the information, lol.

Oh, I‘ve done that already. Feel free to ask…  lol
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: Daeothar on October 13, 2023, 10:20:15 AM
Also, remember that this is merely the standard OOB.

The Section in the film Aliens consists of veterans in the field, and operational units tend to deviate from the OOB the longer they're out there.

The fact thet they're just one section as opposed to two is already telling. There's no way to discern whether or not the second section is still in hybernation, but that would be a weird decision, that could only be explained logistically (low supplies/air maybe? Or more economical perhaps; "no wake up, no pay"?). At any rate; I can't recall any mention of the second section in the entire film.

But the fact remains that they're not just parade ground troops; they have loads of individual touches, such as non-regulation pieces of equipment and clothing, painted on slogans and symbols, etc. So additional equipment such as flamers or shotguns would be entirely possible (in the field)...
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: Michi on October 13, 2023, 01:47:37 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2603-121023135410-602961601.jpeg)

Names from movie not fixed, just a quick shot acc. to the drawing:

Gorman/Bishop

Ferro/Spunkmeyer

Apone/...

Hudson/Hicks Crowe/Vasquez         Wierzbowski/Drake Frost/Dietrich
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: dwbullock on October 13, 2023, 02:09:34 PM
I was hoping not to have to try and watch the film over and over to get the information, lol.

'I was really looking forward to watching the film over and over.'

Fixed your quote for ya.
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: zemjw on October 13, 2023, 03:14:00 PM
Imdb is a good source for cast - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090605/

I was going to say that the actors have aged, but it was 37 years ago :o

Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on October 13, 2023, 05:33:56 PM
Greetings, I have a snapshot of Table 10 in the WEG Aliens RPG book of tables that gives the films characters and their equipment if that’s any help to you? I think the next table is generic marines. I’d recommend both books if you can find them at a reasonable price.

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: twrchtrwyth on October 13, 2023, 05:38:43 PM
Greetings, I have a snapshot of Table 10 in the WEG Aliens RPG book of tables that gives the films characters and their equipment if that’s any help to you? I think the next table is generic marines. I’d recommend both books if you can find them at a reasonable price.

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
Do you mean LEG? Leading Edge Games? If so I have that, it's one of my conflicting sources. But thabk you.

If on the other hand it's from West End Games then I don't have that and would like to see it, thank you.
Title: Re: Colonial Marines OOB in Aliens question
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on October 13, 2023, 06:10:18 PM
Sorry yes Leading Edge. I can’t think of any other sources but something might come to me. Apologies again

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain