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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: traveller on 19 October 2023, 09:44:58 AM
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I am looking for 28mm Polish Winged Hussars. Preferrably some that could work for the period 1605 (Kirkholm) to 1683 (Vienna) if that is possible. I would be grateful for any recommendations and comparisons.
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Please take what I say with a pinch of salt in terms of historical accuracy for the time 1605 (Kirkholm) to 1683 (Vienna)- thoygh I expect that most of these manufacturers overlap.
OK, Warlord Games:
(https://store.warlordgames.com/cdn/shop/products/wgb-17-winged-hussars-b.jpg?v=1575565905)
The Assault Group:
(http://www.1-72depot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/IMG_0632-700x525.jpg)
Old Glory USA/UK:
(https://www.eliteminiaturesaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IMG_1457-3857818.jpg)
apologies for small image.
Essex Miniatures:
(https://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/cdn/shop/products/rpo16_FLAG_large.jpg?v=1571439961)
Wargames Foundry
(https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/cdn/shop/products/POL009_1024x1024.png?v=1495834296)
Just google any of the manufacturers and you will be ogling them very soon. :)
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Preferrably some that could work for the period 1605 (Kirkholm) to 1683 (Vienna) if that is possible.
That would be impossible, as those form early 17th century would look completely different from those from Sobieski's army at Vienna: clothing and (especially) armour changed a lot.
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Thanks for the response! Atheling, many thanks for the photos! Seems to be a lot to choose from :)
@Kadrinazi
what would characterize the early vs the late clothing/armour? If I have to choose I go for the early period look
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The man is probably too humble to plug himself in, but Kadrinazi has a Facebook page, blog (https://kadrinazi.blogspot.com/?m=1) and several books released in English by Helion that treat about 17th century Poland 😂
Check out his Facebook page and the blog with the translate to English function, I personally love his content and the one time I messaged him directly he was a great help even if my question was outside his main period of interest 😁
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The man is probably too humble to plug himself in, but Kadrinazi has a Facebook page, blog (https://kadrinazi.blogspot.com/?m=1) and several books released in English by Helion that treat about 17th century Poland 😂
Check out his Facebook page and the blog with the translate to English function, I personally love his content and the one time I messaged him directly he was a great help even if my question was outside his main period of interest 😁
Excellent! Thanks!
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Bo: I know that Andy @ Friends of General Haig has shown some excellent units of Polish winged hussars on this site. Try searching winged hussars. From memory he has used Foundry, TAG and Warlord figures. His interest is the war between Sweden and the Polish Commonwealth in the 1620s.
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Bo: I know that Andy @ Friends of General Haig has shown some excellent units of Polish winged hussars on this site. Try searching winged hussars. From memory he has used Foundry, TAG and Warlord figures. His interest is the war between Sweden and the Polish Commonwealth in the 1620s.
Great, that period would be my main focus as well, cheers!
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what would characterize the early vs the late clothing/armour? If I have to choose I go for the early period look
Early would be combination of mail and plate, while in late you will have appearance of 'karacena' armour; difference in helmets would be visible as well. As Maxromek kindly mentioned my books from Helion and Company (check under 'Michal Paradowski') you find quite a lot of example of both early and late hussars in them, as I covered quite a few conflicts.
On my private FB (but visible for all) I have album with iconography of Polish and Lithuanian troops from 16th to early 18th century, there are many hussars there. Description are in Polish but easily to translate:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.655167151169799&type=3
I also have English version of my blog on FB, when I'm always happy to answer any enquires about Commonwealth's military:
https://www.facebook.com/digitalpancerny
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@Kadrinazi
Excellent! Many thanks!
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Hinchliffe Winged Hussars are still available from Lancashire Games, apparently.
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These lads are worth a look.
https://sunderedstudios.co.uk/products/winged-hussars
Very well proportioned and excellent sculpting. The fantasy elements are only really evident in the command figures. The mask of the lion/leopard skin on the shoulder is just perhaps a little bit big...but I'm nitpicking. Being resin the can be printed in big heroic style or 28mm
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I'm afraid they are only useful for Kislev as there are not historically accurate at all.
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Hinchliffe Winged Hussars are still available from Lancashire Games, apparently.
Cheers
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I'm afraid they are only useful for Kislev as there are not historically accurate at all.
That’s a pity, they do look good
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Just in terms of the painting and the sculpts I find the Warlord Winged Hussars are really lovely.
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I agree Rogerc, which is also why it's all the more infuriating that Warlord chose not to actually research the Hussars in the time period they intended to portray them in and instead went with whatever the first google search result was. Warlord's sculpting is top notch, but the amount of effort they put into the Thirty Years' War and related conflicts is frankly lackluster.
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Lack of the proper research into armies like Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Muscovy or even Sweden is often the case with many wargaming manufacturers, who rely on illustrations from Osprey or just one or two, rather randomly chosen, pieces of iconography from period.
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I'm afraid they are only useful for Kislev as there are not historically accurate at all.
Out of interest you mind explaining how?
I have some and they are very similar to both the hinchcliffe and Warlord models shown and although the lances are a bit shorter than I'd like i couldn't see any obvious fantasy elements - no skulls or gw type scrolls etc, so keen to find out before I start painting.
Thanks.
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Armour have additions that were not present in real pieces, there is lack of pistols and estocs/pallasch carried under saddle, saddles and horse tacks are wrong, dywdyk ('blanket' under saddle) is also total fantasy. Soldiers do not have animal pelts or at least welens blankets over their armour. Heck, even boots are weird. So in all it looks like very loose fantasy that supposed to be, I guess, Sobieski's reign period-inspired minis but that cannot (or at least shouldn't, if one is looking for accuracy) to be used as historical miniatures.
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Thanks for clarifying that.
Cheers.
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Thanks to Paul for the mention!
I went through a few blog posts on building early Hussars, starting here
https://theviaregia.blogspot.com/2020/05/husaria.html?m=1
Michal has books, published by Helion, covering the early and late period which are the best you can get on the period. He’s working on the middle period next, I believe. 😀
You’ll see I used Foundry and TAG got the earlier period. I also have some Warlord but these are later period in armour.
Be careful. They are addictive 8)
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Michal has books, published by Helion, covering the early and late period which are the best you can get on the period. He’s working on the middle period next, I believe. 😀
Well, I would say middle period is also already covered, with 'Against the Deluge', but working on 'Warsaw 1656', so still stuck with this mid-17th century :) There are further plans for two more books about first half of the 17th century though.
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OMG - I had forgotten that one - sorry, Michal! It is still on the “to read pile”. I loved the Khotyn book by the way, that went straight to the top of the pile 8) . Lots of ideas for gaming coming from that, and 3 new armies to build ;D
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Glad to hear :) I'm sure you will be happy to know that there will be book about battle of Gniew (Mewe) in 1626, so ideal for your great collection for Prussian war.
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A big fan of the foundry and TAG ranges
Cheers
Matt
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A big fan of the foundry and TAG ranges
I’ll generally second that. For the hussars though I went with Warlord. They are awesome ;)