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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: ichwillauch on 08 November 2023, 04:57:12 PM
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Hi,
I am interested in the sea battle at Oliwa 1627, but I ran in some problems:
What is the difference between a pinas ship and a pink ship? As far as I know, a pink is even smaller as a pinas, but some sources say pinas and pink is the same. How about the number of masts? Are there any reclipas from this time?
If I am not mistaken, there is a diorama showing the battle in the Vasa museum Stockholm. Maybe someone has taken photos to share?
Are there any other ship model plans availabe beside the Pagegojan, the Black Raven and the Wodnik?
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What Polish authors tend to call 'pinka' would be probably two mast pinnace.
As Polish Royal Fleet didn't used Polish names for their ships, there was no 'Wodnik' but 'Meerman', while 'Black Raven' was 'Schwarze Rabe'.
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Wikipedia has a complete order of battle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Oliwa. You can probably use building plans for similar Dutch or Swedish ships (I think all the ships were bought in Holland). Gdansk had close relations with the Netherlands at that time.
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Thank you both for the help. I ordered the duyfken shipplans for a pinnace, I hope this is close enough for the ships of this time.
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Drawings by Abraham Booth and Filip Janssen. also painting by Adolf Boy should be useful as well, to give some idea how the ships in question could look like.
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I just did my own version of Oliwa (see link).
Will do another run soon and would like to exchange knowledge
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