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Title: The Huaxtec
Post by: Huron34 on November 26, 2023, 09:56:40 PM
The Huaxtec

Huaxtec for the spanish conquistador
Cuaxtecatl for the Aztec
Teenek for "Haxtec"

The Huaxtec are a people of Mayan origin who left the Péten for the north of  actual mexico long before the birth of Téotihuacan. The latter it was found in Téotihuacan a neighborhood reserved for Teenek merchants.

It's therefore a very old civilization only 20% of his former territory has been opened to archeological excavations. Therefore we know little about this tribe. What do we know little about pre-Colombian Teenek armies.

First the Huaxteca was divided into two territories: the south and the noth. According to the Mexicas the armies of the south wore little cotton unlike those of the noth wich ressembled very much the Aztec armies.
The Mexicas who only sought to mock their ennemies sais that the Teenek fought naked. Today archaeologist are reserved on these statements (but my figurines are like this).

Very well then, for the Huaxtec, their skulls were lying like the Mayans, especially for the nobles, dyed ther hairs red, yellow essentially but also with other colors. Possibility to dye half with one color and the other half with another.
The teeth were filed in tip and tinted in black or red. The front of the skull is shaved. The hair is pulled over the back of the head and a ponytail is carried on the back.
The nose was often perforated to be able to thread a feather or an ornament made of woof or bones. The ears are perforated to receive all kinds of ornaments.

Body painting : forearms and lower legs are often painted in yellow ochre, black or red for nobles, or in the form of rings of colors superimposed on each other (yellow then black above etc... from foot to knee for exemple), like the mayan too.
These color rings could be paint on face and on body.
Tatto: these could be done on any part of the body; Hands and heads remaining the privilege of the nobles.
Leather bracelets that can be decorated with feathers can be worn on the upper legs and arms.
Feathers are not green because the Quetzal bird not live in the Huaxteca. Only parrot in red or yellow and blue.
Title: Re: The Huaxtec
Post by: Huron34 on November 27, 2023, 07:09:45 PM
The Teenek warriors had rattles or bells attached to their belts, backs and feet , all of these making a weird noise
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Post by: mikedemana on December 01, 2023, 12:58:52 AM
Nice! It's always cool when gamers research new armies and spread what they've found out about them to the rest of us...  :)

Mike Demana
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Post by: Huron34 on December 03, 2023, 11:02:43 AM
Thank(s Mike.

Class of veteran warriors: Tiachems (teenek language) or tiachcauhqueh (Azrtec language)

South Huaxtec. On the left warrior and on the right warrior nobility
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Post by: Huron34 on December 03, 2023, 11:07:15 AM
The Tiachems wore filet feathers on the heads (Codex or "Dibujos de Tamuin or Duran notes)
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Post by: Huron34 on December 08, 2023, 09:42:27 PM
Tiachems of North Huaxtec wears a conventional tlahuiztli war-suit . A lot of multi-coloured cotton, all kinds of blue, red, green, yellow, brown, etc.
It bears the characteristic double-bar "hawk scratches", which the Aztec considered typical of the Huaxtec costume.
The codex Borbonicus shows Huaxtec with such markings painted or tattooed directly onto their bodies.
In many studies, mention is made of circle feather fan construction hung in the back as the Mayan.
It was the breechclout that circled the basin and maintened the fan feather.
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Post by: Huron34 on December 11, 2023, 05:32:48 PM
Two Huaxtec from the South:

On the left, the typical hat of the Teenek (codex)
On the right, a feather headress for a chief (noble) or priest (sculpture)
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Post by: Basementboy on December 15, 2023, 09:29:23 AM
Fantastic! Never heard of this people before, so thank you for educating me here ;)
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Post by: Huron34 on December 16, 2023, 04:12:02 PM
With pleasure BasementBoy.
Indeed many civilisations or tribes of mesoamerica are still little treated or simply forgotten in 28mm.
The best treated are the Mexicas ans the Tlaxcaltec and still many oversights or mistakes.
Who will have the good idea to create Mixtec, Zapotec, Cholultec, Meztotec, Perupecha (Tarascan), Mayan of Guatemala (Quiche and Cakchiquel) and Otomi (two great tribes, one on the border of the territory of Tlaxcala and another at the border of the Huasteca)
A lot of work ahead.
Morever I seek all information on these two Otomi tribes (clothing and body paint).....

Thank's for all
Title: Re: The Huaxtec
Post by: Huron34 on December 16, 2023, 04:49:22 PM
The conical Hat.
From the south: It was often decorated with a gold pattern

From the north: It was often decorated with a rosette of feathers of colors of two bands of colors in spiral
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Post by: Huron34 on December 19, 2023, 08:40:10 PM
Still a Southern and a Northern Huaxtec.
The pointed hat could also be truncated or truncated at the base and pointed on the top like the favorite goddess of the Huaxtec : Tlazolteotl
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Post by: Huron34 on December 23, 2023, 05:52:16 PM
Truncated hat for Southern and Northern Huaxtec
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Post by: Huron34 on December 23, 2023, 05:54:02 PM
Banners bearers south and north
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Post by: mikedemana on December 24, 2023, 07:59:30 PM
When do your fine feathered friends take to the wargaming table? Looking forward to seeing all these guys in action?  :o

Mike Demana
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Post by: Huron34 on December 25, 2023, 04:20:09 PM
Thank you, but I have never played with my figurines.
These are the representation of my research on pre-colombian armies : 25 years of research.
Title: Re: The Huaxtec
Post by: Huron34 on December 27, 2023, 07:53:14 PM
On the left, the banner is of the Mayan model, but also on the Téotihucano model.
On the right, the banner is in the effigy of the  Teenek goddess.
The wheel-shapped back banner is held in place by the loincloth like the Maya too.
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Post by: Huron34 on December 27, 2023, 07:54:52 PM
Teeneck slinger:

Body paints could target specific areas (here yellow ochre)
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Post by: Codsticker on December 27, 2023, 09:59:36 PM
Wonderful post! Especially interesting to me.right now as I am posting from a resort in Tulum. :D

The illustration you have posted looks like the noble warrior is wearing the skin of a powerful vanquished enemy.  Yesterday during a tour of Coba our guide mentioned that sometimes warriors would wear the face of a powerful enemy warrior they had killed to gain his power in battle. I can't recall if he was speaking of Northern tribes or those of the Yucatan.  ???
Title: Re: The Huaxtec
Post by: Huron34 on December 28, 2023, 02:28:30 PM
No mention of this in my source, but Sahagun records what when an Huaxtec overcame an opponent :"he cut off is head, casting his body aside. He carried off only his head. He tied it to a stick".
The head were subsequently flayed.

Diaz finding in a temple the still recognizable flayed face of some of his comrades killed.

Modern author's say the same in their research.

We are close to Mayan practices

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Post by: Basementboy on December 29, 2023, 11:32:11 AM
Fascinating! Out of interest, is there anywhere I can find your research online? I’d love to grow a better understanding of pre-colonial mezoamerica, it’s a period that I’ve never really gotten a foothold on.
Title: Re: The Huaxtec
Post by: Huron34 on December 29, 2023, 08:30:28 PM
Good evening Basementboy,

It's been 35 years since I went looking for information on the different "Aztec" armies.
The start was a book from osprey. Then figurines from Eureka Miniatures followed later by figurines from Lucid Eye.
Then nothing.
Then thanks to the Internet we discover informations.
Today young Mexicans are trying to find their origins, their history... That of their Mexica, ancestor and not that of the writings of the Spanish conquerors.
The Mexico City library offers numerous works and therefore information via the Internet.
My figurines are the fruit of my research....

Perhaps in 1 year, 10 years this informations will be reviewed.
My future figurines on the Huaxtec were never "shown" in drawings or otherwise.
So be patient... ;)
Title: Re: The Huaxtec
Post by: Basementboy on December 30, 2023, 09:33:42 AM
Thanks for the response- and you’re right, the internet is an amazing tool for research :D
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Post by: Huron34 on January 13, 2024, 05:17:00 PM
Atl-Atl Warriors
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Post by: Huron34 on January 13, 2024, 05:18:15 PM
Bowmens warriors
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Post by: Huron34 on January 20, 2024, 04:27:28 PM
Priest warriors:

Xipe Totec and Eheuatl
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Post by: Huron34 on January 20, 2024, 04:36:51 PM
Look the conic hat of Eheuatl and the shameful of Xipe Totec
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Post by: Huron34 on January 27, 2024, 05:20:19 PM
Teenek Noble of the South
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Post by: Huron34 on February 04, 2024, 02:17:07 PM
Teenek nobles for the North.

Look : dibujos de Tamuin, many lords are represented.

Miniatures are : Lucid eye, Gringo40 and Eureka miniatures.
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Post by: Basementboy on February 05, 2024, 11:57:30 PM
They look good! Thanks for sharing :)
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Post by: Huron34 on February 11, 2024, 10:56:53 AM
Thank's for your support :)
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Post by: Huron34 on February 11, 2024, 11:03:07 AM
Here are two warriors in jaguar skins.
These are not jaguar warrior.

He who wears a corselet is a nobleman (south or north).
The one in full outfit is an elite warrior (north)

Althoug I haven't found any representation of these outfit in the Teenek, by comparison with other "armies" of this time, we know that this type of outfit existed among both Maya (corselet) and the Aztec (full outfit).

So nothing imaginary, just that we weren't there at this time lol
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Post by: Huron34 on February 11, 2024, 11:19:44 AM
On the nobleman we can see the rattles attached to the loincloth.

For the warrior, we can clearly see that the loincloth goes around the waist on the jaguar outfit (Maya).

Once again, nothing is invented. It all comes from sculptures or "Dibujos de Tamuin".

The rest is the result of cross-checking the memoirs of witnesses from that period and current research. ;)
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Post by: Huron34 on February 23, 2024, 10:37:31 PM
Here his a jaguar warrior and an eagle warrior. This type of warrior did exist among the Teenek.
Was there an ordre of eagle and jaguar knights like the aztec?
For the moment no trace of these order.
In the eagle warrior we find the back circle fan feather hanging in the loincloth
The helmet feathers are stuck to the back of the skull and vertical.

For the jaguar I should have put the feathers vertically like for the eagle !
Note the feathers attached around the knee.

Good fun
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Post by: Huron34 on March 02, 2024, 09:08:25 PM
Here are the allies of the Teenek: the Chichimec indians of "sant Louis de Potosi", nothern province Teenek.

Normally Chichimec warriors paint their bodies red but the different testimonies speak exclusively of blue paint
all over their bodies.

Look: shields and bows exclusively. The hair his very long (mine is not long enough) and a headband with 1 or 2 white feathers.
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Post by: Codsticker on March 02, 2024, 10:21:59 PM
Wonderful work.
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Post by: Huron34 on March 11, 2024, 06:09:34 PM
The South teenek army ;)
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Post by: Basementboy on March 12, 2024, 08:40:31 PM
They look great! The shield designs really add to the effect, love it :D
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Post by: Huron34 on March 13, 2024, 04:29:54 PM
Thank's for your support ;)
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Post by: Huron34 on March 23, 2024, 08:45:15 PM
North Teenek army
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Post by: Huron34 on March 23, 2024, 08:51:18 PM
That's all for the Huaxtec or Teenek for the moment.

Next article in a few months: Otomies warriors.

Thank you for any interest you may have shown in this article.

Title: Re: The Huaxtec
Post by: Totleben on March 23, 2024, 09:38:26 PM
thank you for showing this  :-*