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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: Silent Invader on January 23, 2024, 10:04:08 AM

Title: FPW Bavarians - sanitat, supply troops, field railway troops
Post by: Silent Invader on January 23, 2024, 10:04:08 AM

In my effort to include a bit of everything in my 1870-1875 Bavarian Army, I want to include notional units of

Sanitäts (doctor, medics and possibly nurses)
Supply train
Field Railway Department

Info and sources on the Bavarians (not the Prussians or other states  ;)) would be very much appreciated.

I’ve read that the railway troops wore the darker blue uniform of the artillery and field engineers, but have no idea of facings or plumes if any. For supply column I have no idea. Regarding the medical staff, if by 1873 the officer was in dark blue then I’d hazard a guess that so were the other ranks, but it’d be nice to be sure. :)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/61/2031-230124095905.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/61/2031-230124095017.jpeg) :D

Title: Re: FPW Bavarians - sanitat, supply troops, field railway troops
Post by: Old Contemptable on January 24, 2024, 03:03:36 AM

This may help.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/59568506@N02/albums/72157706401315091/

But it doesn't have that much on auxiliary troops. That's a tough one to find.

Title: Re: FPW Bavarians - sanitat, supply troops, field railway troops
Post by: Silent Invader on January 24, 2024, 06:23:30 PM

Thanks very much. That’s a really useful resource though as you suggest, it doesn’t really cover the auxiliary troops. However, I’ve had some luck as I’ve found this, which shows what i believe is a medical orderly:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/61/2031-240124161826.jpeg)

This would seem to confirm that in 1870 the dark blue was being worn by medical units, which is what I shall go with.

EDIT

While the Bavarian medic Max Lehner doesn’t appear to be wearing a Red Cross armband, there are plenty of images of Prussians wearing them in 1870.

Prussia adopted the first Geneva Convention in 1864, with Bavaria doing so in 1866. As such it seems reasonable to assume that by 1870 the Bavarians were also wearing the armband in the field.

/EDIT

If the supply wagon is an ammo caisson , then it seems likely that the crew would be in artillery dark blue, which would seem to cover it.

Many thanks. 

Title: Re: FPW Bavarians - sanitat, supply troops, field railway troops
Post by: carlos marighela on January 29, 2024, 04:34:40 AM

There's this on the Vinkhuijzen Collection at the NYPL. It's a bit earlier than your period but looking at the other plates, it seems uniform colours stayed fairly consistent among troop types.

https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47e1-d9b5-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99

Title: Re: FPW Bavarians - sanitat, supply troops, field railway troops
Post by: Silent Invader on January 29, 2024, 09:27:52 AM

Thanks very much Carlos. That is very interesting. :)

Certainly makes me feel more comfortable using the dark blue for doctors.

Title: Re: FPW Bavarians - sanitat, supply troops, field railway troops
Post by: Curassier on January 31, 2024, 05:35:05 PM

Might be some useful info here

https://2empire.de/index.php/bildergalerie/uniformserien/bayern-cantler-1848-1871

Title: Re: FPW Bavarians - sanitat, supply troops, field railway troops
Post by: Silent Invader on January 31, 2024, 08:21:31 PM

Quote from: Curassier on January 31, 2024, 05:35:05 PM

Might be some useful info here

https://2empire.de/index.php/bildergalerie/uniformserien/bayern-cantler-1848-1871

Funnily enough I believe the author published that page today. And it does answer my medical orderly question (cornflower blue with Red Cross arm band).  So that’s my conundrum solved. Huzzah!

Many thanks for posting the link. It’s a great site - I think the premier FPW site - which I’ve spent many an hour poring over an English translation of. :D