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Here's the start of my 28mm 'Pony Wars' project. It's a tad bittersweet, as I'm dedicating it to my two old Companyeros, the Dynamic Dunderheads. I wargamed with them for over forty years, Cavalry and Indians was one of our most favourite periods, From Airfix, Atlantic, Britains Deetails and right through to some of these lads mustering now. Eagle eyed Scouts will spot an Airfix Cavalry fort and wrong sized Wigwams. No apologies for this, they're there because of their sentimental value, always a big thing in a John Ford Cavalry flim!
Piccys to follow.
(https://scottross79.files.wordpress.com/2022/01/she-wore-a-yellow-ribbon-wayne.jpg)
:)
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Can't wait to see the pics. It's one of my favorite periods.
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Here's young Lootenant Colehill's C Troop, on patrol from Fort Starke...
:)
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"Wot did you do in Tombstone Grandad?"
I was with Doc, at the OK corral
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Next up is The Great Lame Beaver's right man, Chief Smelly Moccasin and his War Party of Cheyenne Dog Soldiers...
:o
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"Wot did you do in Tombstone Grandad?"
I was with Doc, at the OK corral
Love that one!!!
:-*
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Very nice Harry.
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Cheers matey, that means a lot coming from you.
;)
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Very nice forces so far :)
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Well, that is a nice start on getting back in my good graces. But where is the action? There must be action reports. Minor harrumph. ;)
But, yes, nice work.
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Cheers, AAR coming up soon!
:o
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They all look great. Especially them long-knife horsey fellers! :)
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Looking good Harry.
I ain't forgot abart de Indian Village stuff, honest. :D
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Cheers has.been.
Meanwhile back on the Greasy grass. As part of mi' inspiration I've been ODing on Cavalry and Indian flims. Discounting 'Son of the Morning Star'. General Custer films are lame. Both 'Custer of the West' and 'They Died With Their Boots On' are most entertaining, but a tad daft. 'Little Big Man' is great, love the way he murders Custer! Funnily the 'Glory Guys' gives a fairly good rendering of the battle. The skirmishing Cavalry bit is really well done...
got to get me a skirmish line!
:-*
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Yeah, Son of the Morning Star is a bright bulb on an otherwise dim string...
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Fort Starke, is it named after the Lieutenant in the Company I book series?
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Depends when the books came out, the film was made in 1949.
:)
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Nice collection. :-*
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I'm watching with interest Steve :P
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I'm watching with interest Steve :P
You'll soon here a distant trumpet!
::)
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I hope when I return to LAF in a few weeks there will be at least one and perhaps more action reports!
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"I got's me a skirmish line!"
:)
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Lovely painting :-*
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They came ready painted from Colonel Bill's, I just tickled 'em up, re-based and added the 7th Guidon.
:)
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The base's look great.
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They look nice. :-*
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Thanks chaps, just finished the main man...
The Great Lame Beaver, War Chief of the Cheyenne!
:o
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Custer's Last Stand, but not as you know it.
When I got this game, Crimbo '64, it took me and our kid till Easter to master the rools!
:?
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Well, that's cool!
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When we give it a whirl, it'll make a novel AAR!
:D
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Now that’s an old one……never enjoyed it much to be honest. I finally sold my copy during the covid lockdown :o. It had been in various lofts for a good fifty five years…..sold my original copy of Escape from Colditz at the same time. I had a good collection of board games as a kid. Pointless really, I was an only child :D
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Playing with Cowboys and Indians is NEVER pointless!!!
>:(
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Playing with Cowboys and Indians is NEVER pointless!!!
>:(
Well said mate 👍🏻
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[Playing with Cowboys and Indians is NEVER pointless!!!
Brave to say that Harry. lol
I too still have my Battle of the Little Big Horn, & Escape from Colditz, & Campaign, & Diplomacy, & Decline & Fall, & Sea-Strike, &&&&&& :D
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Campaign is great, used it many time for a... campaign!
Transferring the battles/action to the tabletop.
:-*
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Custer's Last Stand, but not as you know it.
When I got this game, Crimbo '64, it took me and our kid till Easter to master the rools!
:?
We used to play this game as kids in the seventies. The figures were better painted as I recall so maybe it was a later version.
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On a semi-related note, my wife and I are taking a vacation out to the Dakotas next week. A stop at Fort Abraham Lincoln (from where Lt. Col. Custer and the 7th Cavalry departed on their way to infamy...) is on the agenda.
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On a semi-related note, my wife and I are taking a vacation out to the Dakotas next week. A stop at Fort Abraham Lincoln (from where Lt. Col. Custer and the 7th Cavalry departed on their way to infamy...) is on the agenda.
I’m trying to talk my mate into a motorcycle tour of the States 🇺🇸
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I’m trying to talk my mate into a motorcycle tour of the States
Cool. Ours a BIG country, though. You'll want to do some careful planning, but there are military history sites (battlefields, forts, museums, etc.) all over the place...
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Surely Lame Beaver was Arapaho? By way of the Lebanon… ;)
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Surely Lame Beaver was Arapaho? By way of the Lebanon… ;)
Himself will take a very dim view of that dreadful slander. Sleep with one eye open. One dawn you'll wake up to a bronzed, and warpainted savage, who's called for breakfast!
>:(
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Nice to see a referral to campaign. That was another one I sold in Lockdown…….anyone come across Tri Tactics? That was good fun as well.
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Just spent a very pleasant couple of hours with our very own Akula.
Good man, arrived in our pokey little seaside resort, as proud as a warhorse. Two hours later, after breaking down halfway through Taps...
he went away, like a broken down Troop horse, hardly able to drag a Gatling gun.
The reason for these devastating events at the seaside will be revealed, after I've finished having me a celebrate!
:D
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It’s your Troop now, Mr Faversham ;)
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It’s your Troop now, Mr Faversham ;)
"The Army will never be the same without yous, Captain Akula, darlin'!"
(https://www.thewargameswebsite.com/wp-content/uploads/hm_bbpui/115939/6u1c5t0uubwk0pkhlnqr81y3h5czve2c.jpg)
:'(
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A three week reprieve of my absence yet not a battle report yet! Must I seek "a short drop and a sudden stop" for the poor man? Or am I missing a thread somewhere? :o
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The tribes have been slowly massing, here's the progress so far...
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"A good day to fight!"
:o
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Seems a fine looking collection so far - and more than enough of the "local lads" to overwhelm those interlopers in blue. Perhaps Akula and yerself got to pushing these fellers about on a table and a report is being cogitated into existence?
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Those Indians look great.
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Majority of 'em were painted by Lord Raglan, they look even better in real life!
:-*
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Perhaps Akula and yerself got to pushing these fellers about on a table and a report is being cogitated into existence?
Sadly not...more a case of selling off a chunk of my "future retirement project" due to an unexpected and hefty bill.
Steve didn't gloat (much) but I'm still sore from waving goodbye to them :'(
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Daren't gloat, I'd have got scalped!
Will you send the piccys of the wagons, when you get chance, old bean?
Next addition, the circleling the wagon trayn!
(https://truewestmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/humor3.jpg)
;D
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Will you send the piccys of the wagons, when you get chance, old bean?
Will do…just back home after a week away so Mrs Akky is waving a long list of outstanding jobs in my direction as I type this…
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Nightmare!
I get more job cards since ree-tirement, than I ever did at werk.
:?
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Oh, the dreaded "honey-do" list. I think wives start compiling them for retirement the night before the wedding!
For circling wagons, I decided needed seven to do it right - but, of course, in 15 mm. Five might do in a pinch but six just looked like a hexagon and fewer just looked weird to my eye. And, since I'm a bit nuts at times, I have two such trains, one pulled by horses and the other by oxen so, if needed, I could go with fourteen wagons. Cost and storage in 28 mm must create some different dilemmas.
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Anybody make separate 28mm seated gunners for a limber, only need two?
???
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Not my scale, but I'd check into ACW ranges for those seated gunners. And don't be afraid to request a seller to sell just the figures - some won't but some might.
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Sorted thanks, saw Akula yesterday, he told me Warbases do both army and settlers wagon drivers figures. They look spot on, too.
:)
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Great looking figures, no matter who painted them up. If only we could see them in an actual battle... 8)
And I've put in a request to Da Boss about not going overboard on that "to do" list sine I've become "gainfully unemployed". i must admit, so far, she has been pretty good about it... :)
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"So here they are: the dog-faced soldiers, the regulars, the fifty-cents-a-day professionals... riding the outposts of a nation. From Fort Reno to Fort Apache - from Sheridan to Starke - they were all the same: men in dirty-shirt blue and only a cold page in the history books to mark their passing. But wherever they rode - and whatever they fought for - that place became the United States."
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"Dismount!"
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We all know an Army marches on it's stomach, this one's fed on beeves!
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Very good stuff. But every time I look at this thread, I hear in my head "Around her hair, she wore a yellow ribbon..."... ;)
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Plenty of support for the boys in blue...
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Here's Sister Sarah, with her mules...
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And Mountain Man, Jeremiah John Stone...
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"Circle the wagons!"
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The Boy General, Brother Tom and Sergeant Major Slasher...
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Very nice, Harry. Very nice...
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Thanks, Cap'n.
:)
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Happy gaming mate 8)
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Good news though A, I'll leave yer the collection, in mi' will!
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Good news though A, I'll leave yer the collection, in mi' will!
;)
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Nice looking set up Harry.
I am now working on clutter for the Chief's village.
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Cheers old bean, I mean has.been.
8)
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Last, and in every way least... one and only, The Great Lame Beaver!
As I was putting the paint on, I could hear a ghostly chuckling. A little voice, sniggering...
"Look, The Great Lame Tosspot, wot's he painted wiv, squaw-paint, as usual???!!!"
:?
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But The Great Lame Beaver's Medicine proved all powerful. In the end he had the last laugh, sending Colonel Marlowe to the happy hunting grounds.
"I also commend to your keeping, Sir, the soul of Colonel Marlowe, late Brigadier General, of the Sheffield Idiot's Brigade. Known to his comrades here, Sir, as Trooper Dunderhead, United States Cavalry... a gallant soldier and a Christian Gentleman.
:o
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lol
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Well, now that you have such a fine collection, we all await many an action report as only you in your delightfully inimical manner can so entertain us. So hop to it. :D. Short an opponent? Well, solo it up and play on, good sir.
Or buy me a round trip ticket!
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Game on tomorrow, with the last of the Dunderheads!
The best games we ever had were between me, Barry and another 30 year Veteran, Peter. Somehow the NHS has re-booted the old bugger, so there'll be a couple of games over the next two days. The evil 'Snake Eyed Pete' and his myrmidons are heading for Dead Man's Gulch!
:o
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Game on tomorrow, with the last of the Dunderheads!
The best games we ever had were between me, Barry and another 30 year Veteran, Peter. Somehow the NHS has re-booted the old bugger, so there'll be a couple of games over the next two days. The evil 'Snake Eyed Pete' and his myrmidons are heading for Dead Man's Gulch!
:o
Well now, that's good news. Both the NHS " re-booting the old bugger", and the scheduled game. Looking forward to a report on events after they've transpired!
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The gunsmoke's slowly clearing in Dead Man's Gulch. To state that the day's been an unmitigated deesaster, for the forces of law and order, is a tad of an understatement!
Full AAR to come soon.
:?
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Hmm. Drumming fingers monotonously on the table. Wondering if there is a missing 'tomorrow' in the above post and thinking I'm typing on the 'day after tomorrow'. Edit did we? Hmm. Well, should be worth the wait.
:D
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First time ever, the idiots have bought Daddio a decent birfday prezzie!
Gunfighter's Ball Hollywood Cavalry Command, can't wait to get the paint on these lads!
:-*
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Perhaps the "idiots" may deserve a promotion?! lol
Foot, mounted - or both? Nice whichever way. And Happy Birthday! (early or late as the case may be)
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Cheers, they got me both foot and mounted.
:)
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Well, holy dead-eye quick draw, I just had a peruse of the whole GB range of stuff. You need to be awfully nice to them thar' "idiots" for a few years - and drop about five gazillion hints that 'Daddio' will be very happy to receive a whole lot more of that range for birthday, Boxing Day, Xmas, anniversaries and any other gifting dates you can convince them (guilt them) into getting you gifts for, maybe starting here: https://knuckleduster.com/collections/terrain-accessories?page=1 (https://knuckleduster.com/collections/terrain-accessories?page=1)
A seriously nice range - and even a Mongo wannabe on a bull!
I take no responsibility for any conversations with your local bank manager about mortgaging your house to make further purchases from GB! :o
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Hope all is well. Been more than a month and haven't seen that AAR. Appear somewhere else?
Or did that link I provided lead to cardiac issues? :o. Hope not.
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Sadly real world's getting in the way, of playing with the toys at the moment.
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Think I commented on my shameless gloating as I took command of my mates beloved collection. Well here's his chance to have a gloat of his own!
The collection I should never have parted with, breaks my heart looking at the piccys!
:'(
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And now the Old West has gone, cavalry forts are empty and abandoned. The soldiers in dirty shirt blue have rode into the sunset for the last time. The Sioux and Cheyenne horse warriors of the Great Plains are no more...
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Shed a tear, perhaps two.
And then realize you've only made room for something better to take their place.
I certainly hope your newer collection remains in place and is building up to be even better than what went before. As of today, my 100 day painting challenge turns full focus for a bit to Old West painting - figures and buildings and a bit of terrain. Not yet the cavalry and native folk but they are in the wings awaiting attention. You can find the challenge thread at the Workbench here on LAF. And a thread here on Old West, too.
Looked like a nice collection that went away. Now pick yourself up, dust off, wipe the eyes, and move along into the bright and sunny future. Game away, mate! (We are relying on you for more entertainment after all.)
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Think I commented on my shameless gloating as I took command of my mates beloved collection. Well here's his chance to have a gloat of his own!
The collection I should never have parted with, breaks my heart looking at the piccys!
No gloating from me... a beautiful looking collection - I hope that your "new recruits" can at least try and fill the gap...they've got big boots to fill!
:)
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oh that's a fantastic collection, I can't believe you let it go.
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Great collection, but I absolutely love the Tom Mix shot of the Duke. One of my top five films for sure is The Searchers…..……
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I still have my old 54mm Wild West collection. I loved the Herald cavalry figures and wish there was something similar in smaller scales. Note the Britains livery stable - they were smart and gave you the option of making their buildings suitable for UK farms and the Wild West by changing the building name!
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Last bit of painting for 2024. The Lordsberg Stage, and Chiracahuas!!!
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Which leads to the eternal question, just how do you cheer a cow up?! lol
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Feed him a Stagecoach full of Pilgrims!
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lol lol lol
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Ya! Ya!
:)
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Like the previous gentlemen have said: "enough of the moping! You've had your fun with the previous collection, enjoy the memories and create new ones with the replacements. Look forwards to new exciting adventures and cherish the old ones."
An amazing collection sir :o and I hope it went to a good home that can appreciate it.
I did a somewhat similar thing, albeit on a much, much smaller more modest scale. I sold my 28mm old west collection that I started with in 2007 and have now upgraded to a Heroic 28mm one. Bigger and better painted with all these 3D prints available nowadays.
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Nice stage.
And quietly sneaking in a tree with a dead body up high in it.
All those extra touches...makes gaming so much more fun.
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Nice stagecoach. I took a ride in one in Wyoming - they are not designed for 6' tall older men....I'da done OK as the guy riding shotgun.
And I like how you have the guy on top with his yellowboy...
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Thanks chaps, much appreciated.
:)
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Funny thing about the Stage are the two passengers. The bloke's a dead ringer for Adolf, so I tried to paint his missus up to look like Eva Braun.
:)
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Alright, now that is just cheating. You can't make a comment like that and not show us a photo of your work!
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Best I could manage...
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Lovely work, how did you do the tree with the body in it?
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Lovely looking Stage mate :-*
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Lovely work, how did you do the tree with the body in it?
I didn't, has.been made it!
He's on with some wig-wams soon, looking forward to gleaning them too!
:-*
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Will be starting the Tepees in the new year Harry.
In the meantime some more pictures of the Indian Village clutter I did for Harry.
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=119096.msg1868151#msg1868151
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Nice work, has.been.
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Thanks FifteenAway.
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My entire wild west collection of buildings came from has.been. All scratch built, they knock any of the MDF stuff, into a ten gallon 'at!
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(again) Thanks Harry. :D
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Perhaps there is hope to see the inside of the coach one day after all. Though I certainly don't wish it happens as the following did. Yesterday, my box with all of my currently painted Old West wagons took a tumble, six feet from shelf to floor. Thankfully, everything was easily repaired with glue and a spot of paint here and there. But I did take advantage of the situation to get a photo of the figures inside the stage coach to show they are, indeed, painted. Just in case one day our erstwhile thread author decides to take me to task and want evidence they are painted! lol. Here, therefore, behold my evidence:
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I went from 'disaster preparedness' to disaster 'repair'edness. lol
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A wonderful and inspirational thread!
When I first became aware of this whole wargaming hobby, back in 2017 (yes, I was a grown adult by then...), seeing other grown men moving "painted little folk" around on a table, I innocently enquired:
"What IS that?"
"It's called wargaming sir!"
"Can you play different ones, pray?"
"As much as you can shake a stick at sir!"
"Even the old west?"
"Very much so!"
And the old west became my first experience! Painted my first minis (horribly) and is to this day my favourite gaming! Recently rebooted my whole collection, Heroic 28mm.
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Just watched 'American Primeval' on Netflix. Not an easy watch, to be fair. But it has inspired me to complete mi' wagon trayn.
:)
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Just watched 'American Primeval' on Netflix. Not an easy watch, to be fair. But it has inspired me to complete mi' wagon trayn.
:)
I started watching it recently. I thought "Hell on wheels" showed a grizzly version of the west, but man this new show is even more depressing...
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For inspiration, the repaired wagons en masse, 'road apples' at the rear optional:
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Now, show me up with your completed 'wagon trayn'. :D
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Inspiring stuff all around.
Do any of you remember this set of Little Big Horn figures? They were semi-flat plastic, and came boxed in a tall tube. I think there was a play mat included. I had loads of fun with that set as a kid.
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Massive reinforcements are on their way to Fort Starke. I'm suspicioned, this summer's campaign agin the Hostiles is gonna be a doozy!
:D
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Looking forward to hearing all about it!
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Another Cheyenne Dog Soldier Clan prepares for the Warpath!
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Nice.
And are those the Tiki-totem clan of Dog Soldiers by any chance? Or are they just vacationing with distant relatives along the Pacific Coast before engaging with the invasive white-eyes once returning home?
More importantly, we are getting closer to a game report perhaps?
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They's has.beens' Totem Poles pardner!
All I know is they're Britains/Timpo, from the dawn of time!
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Anachronistic they may be but I have a couple totem poles myself, one a small and colorful ceramic bit I think I acquired in Arizona - or maybe a thrift store along the way - that fits nicely size-wise with my collection and the other from Irregular Miniatures and it is a bit on the huge side for 15 mm. And at least the small one will decorate my northern plains Indian village.
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Fantastic brush work! Well done.
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Not mine, it's the first batch Dean painted me. He's just sent me a dozen townsfolk, they're equally as good.
:-*
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https://oldglory25s.com (https://oldglory25s.com)
Yes, yes, I know, shipping - but maybe available via their UK distributor(?). But still worth knowing about for anyone doing Old West (or just about anything Eurocentric from 1600 onwards).
"Let sleeping dogs lie." Wait, does that mean dogs know how to tell untruths!? :o
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Just an aside comment:
Giving my main Old West town the name Anachronism will have its merits one day.
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Anybody make a scruffy looking band to add to my town. Kind of thinking, a Fatso banging a big Drum. Somebody playing the Tuba, and a couple of worthies tootin' on Spittlehorns.
???
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Curiosity got me hunting and I found this:
https://knuckleduster.com/products/gt-texas?_pos=1&_sid=016fe062f&_ss=r (https://knuckleduster.com/products/gt-texas?_pos=1&_sid=016fe062f&_ss=r)
Make sure you go for the physical copies unless you own a 3D printer or have someone who can print for you. And while "Gone to Texas" ain't a bad name, I like "AA Bottom" better (the very opposite of ZZ Top).
As for 'sruffy', ain't that up to the painter!? Though with those beards they look a bit rough around the edges already.
I'll let you know my "finder's fee" later. ;)
Oh, and if you look around the site for awhile (if you ain't yet) and end up spending about grand or so, I take no responsibility whatsoever. But, absolutely, look around - including the accessories (skip the MDF buildings, go for 3D prints from other sources)
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A 'Galloper's' just reached Fort Starke, as usual Sergeant Tryree's deepartment!
Word is massed reinforcements will be riding in this weekend, to bring about a final solution to the Indian problem!
:o
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Don't want to start a separate thread, so a quick question on 'Rebels and Patriots'. Just gleaned the rules, which I'm told can be tweaked, for Pony Wars games? Some time ago, I'm sure I read an article with 24 point units, 7th. Cavalry and a Cheyenne War Party. Can't find 'em on the Internet, can anyone send up a smoke signal, please?
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Don't want to start a separate thread, so a quick question on 'Rebels and Patriots'. Just gleaned the rules, which I'm told can be tweaked, for Pony Wars games? Some time ago, I'm sure I read an article with 24 point units, 7th. Cavalry and a Cheyenne War Party. Can't find 'em on the Internet, can anyone send up a smoke signal, please?
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The Men Who Would be Kings rules (in the same rules stable as R&R) have 24 point lists for US cavalry and indians. Is that what you are thinking of? Wouldn't these rules be better for Pony Wars?
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By Jove, I think you've got it!
All I have to do now is it!
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By Jove, I think you've got it!
All I have to do now is it!
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There's a superb set of adaptations for Plains Wars using TMWWBK on the rules' Facebook fan page... Rules as written aren't quite right but with these, it looks much better (I've not got enough models to actually try them out so am going off other folks' reports). if you don't do FB ping me a message...
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Work has commenced on the newly gleaned collection, just a bit of tickling up, to be fair. The Wagons are rolling, and Septimus M Barme, has taken on a new assistant. For a stipend the bereaved can now have an handsome Daguerreotype, of their dear departed!
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The Medicine is good! Thousands of Buffalo have been spotted. An advert is posted to gather more energetic assistants to join the hunt!
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Love the smoke signals mate :D
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Proper, proper Hollywood, innit!!!???
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A great find mate ... look forward to more photos of your new collection :)
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Love the buffalo herd! Now, the white buffalo - while a nice model to have - is another thing. Ever since I made the mistake of watching that horrifically bad movie with an even worse 'fake' white buffalo, in all senses, I just am put off by them.
Oh, and a proper wagon train. Will we be seeing some Indians circling the wagons soon? Or perhaps the cavalry circling the wagons while the drunk Indians hide behind the white women? lol
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The signals are brilliant! Lol
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Nice work Harry.
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Thanks chaps, next up, The War Wagon!
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Love the buffalo herd! Now, the white buffalo - while a nice model to have - is another thing. Ever since I made the mistake of watching that horrifically bad movie with an even worse 'fake' white buffalo, in all senses, I just am put off by them.
Charles Bronson? I quite like that film...
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Right that cuts it!
The White Buffalo's on borrowed time...
who makes a Posse of Buffalo Hunters in 28mm, please!?
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have you not seen the movie?
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Nah, keep the white buffalo - they do (or did) exist. And they are held sacred in some cultures. Just an issue for me. And I think some rules put them to use.
One heck of a close up for the dead dude. :o lol
For buffalo hunters: any mounted figure firing with a bow, a lance (pointing, not firing), a musket, a rifle will do. Or you can go the 'on foot' route of driving the herd over a 'buffalo jump' which means any foot figure, male or female, that looks like its waving it's arms. Just don't go Alpha (movie) and make the jump absurdly tall - the one at the site of Rosebud battlefield was maybe 20' or less in height (saw in person). The real trick is to find downed buffalo to show the kills. Never found any in 15 mm so I just - carefully - removed the bases from standing animals and then 'squashed' them a bit with a smooth faced, hand held sledge hammer. Alas, they sit primed and waiting to get painted. Hoping to 'skin' a few to make a field similar to what is shown in Dances with Wolves movie. Might try adding an arrow or three sticking out of the not yet skinned dead animals.
For anevilgiraffe - from a review of the movie that never got a 'real theatrical release', I saw on TV - "The title beast looks like a hung-over carnival prize despite attempts at camouflage via hokey sound track noise, busy John Barry scoring, murky photography and fast editing." One of the most laughable 'special' effects I've ever seen put on screen. Not just bad, really, really bad - cheesy 1950s sci-fi bad. So bad that the rest of the movie suffered as a result. Long ago but I don't remember much of a cohesive story line, seemed to jump from place to place. But to each their own, eye of the beholder and all that.
I do rather like the image, however, of a 'hung-over carnival prize'. That might be a starting point for a game - maybe not Old West game, maybe a pulp game. ;).
Oh, and I am a fan of Charles Bronson, probably why I stuck it out way back when to watch this 'turkey' of a white buffalo movie to the bitter end.
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the effect wasn't that bad... it was the 70's afterall... I do remember it being a little like a bucking bronco dressed up, the running effect was the rather static prop being moved up and down in front of the camera... but it was quite atmospheric (John Barry score as noted) and was reasonably ambitious with what it wanted to do.
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No, I need Paleface Buffalo Hunters, please chaps.
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Here is one, mounted and foot, from Artisan Designs: https://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=2073 (https://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=2073)
Probably any good mountain man range will provide options. Looks like a half dozen, at least, useful figures from Foundry Old West range, especially the 'scalp hunters'.
We'll be discussing my 'google' search fees later. ::)
All I did was google 28 mm American buffalo hunter to get me started.
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Cogitations on Brittania Miniatures Wild West figures...
1. Very difficult to mix with any other makes!
2. A good mate of mine loathes 'em as vile sculpts, another pal adores 'em!
3. My 'umble opinion, they remind me of Atlantic plastics on steroids. Their massive heads really make warpaint pop.
4. I'm a'going with Uncle Joe on this, 'quantity has a quality all of it's own'... and I've got hundreds of the little bleeders!
What say the Brethren?
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Well, if you've already got them ("hundreds of the little bleeders")...
Unfamiliar so looked them up - seems the clock is ticking before Britannia, Grubby, and Redoubt are no more (2026). So, if anything else you want from those sources, act fast.
From the few photos at the Grubby site which now has Britannia apparently, I agree with your mate that "loathes 'em", well, not impressed by them actually - though they have their own character. However, no idea if they match size wise, but they reminded me of Dixon's ranges in a way. So, I revisited Dixon site and, personally, I'd choose Dixon over Britannia from Sunday midnight through Saturday midnight every time. Dixon has such an extraordinary variety and has lots of cool sets (Apache stakeout is cool) and a certain 'personality'. A good chunk of my 15 mm Indian Mutiny started with Dixon - now much enhanced by OG25 range - and always had good service from company (though the figures tend on the fragile side - lots of broken bayonets in 15 mm, probably not an issue with 28 mm and Old West/Plains Wars). From Dixon you can also get a stagecoach, wagons, chuck wagon, and even a train. Just check with your bank manager to ensure you can afford all the stuff you are going to buy (if you are). You can also dip into other Dixon ranges to add to your collection like the Alamo range - just to increase variety.
So, back at you - how say you to Dixon?
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Got's me a whole passle of them too!
Indian villagers, and I've got the 'Apache Stakeout' set, to be converted into Cheyennes!
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Well, then, all that remains to be said is to GET BUSY PAINTING!!!! so we can all see them on the table!!!! :o
But, hey, no pressure. lol
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THE WAR WAGON!!!
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Love it. And a nice variation from the one in the movie - all around fire perhaps? And a darn site easier to create as a model I suspect.
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I can't claim the glory, the model came in a collection, I gleaned from the Bazaar.
I only tickled it up with a bit of weatherering.
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Love the war wagon! Lots of options for games with that. ;D
Cheers
Matt
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I always wondered why they didn't just shoot one of the horses in the War wagon film. >:D
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Can't it's Hollywood!
Love the rool in Pony Wars, if the War Wagon's put under Army orders... the Gatling Gun runs out of ammo!
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"why they didn't just shoot one of the horses"
To paraphrase John Ford, if you shoot the horses the movies over.
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IN the book, 'Count Belasarious' by Robert Graves,
the Goths are besieging Rome & the Byzantines are defending it.
For some time the Goths are hammering & sawing out of sight of the Byzantines.
Eventually several gargantuan siege towers emerge from the woods & are slowly dragged ,towards the walls of Rome, by teams of oxen.
When they come within the defenders' bow range, the Byzantines shoot the oxen. lol lol lol
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Love the new additions
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Imagine you are a peaceable Redskin camping along the Washita. One sunny morning Black Kettle rocks up and his Missus sets up their Tepee, wot could possibly go wrong!!!???
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"Washita! Washita!" meaning, more or less, run for your live's, those murderous white soldiers are here. So, nothing likely to go wrong to inspire such phraseology. Just another peaceful day at the vil.
Or maybe we can expect some more photos not quite so peaceable?!
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Simulating the Cheyenne mindset/fighting practice, is going to be a tad more aggful, than I first thought!
I'm reading the story of Wooden Leg, a Cheyenne who fought Custer... he didn't reach the Happy Hunting Grounds till 1940!
Seems as, if an Indian got caught in a surprise fight, he'd run away. This wasn't cowardice, it's so he could put on his best clothes, warpaint and get his medicine. Once that was sorted, he'd fight like a demon...
how the fook do you factor all that mumbo-jumbo into a set of wargame rools. And when you have, wot Idiot's daft enough to lead 'em on the table!!!???
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On game day, you start with the assumption that they've already done the "run away and get ready" routine and are now ready for that "demon" mode. Unless you are doing a surprise attack on a village in which case they dispense with the get ready and go immediately - or as close as possible - to 'protect my family' mode and fight like desperate demons.
As to getting folk to play, never been a problem that I've seen. Gamers happily take on Lost Cause games to 'die with glory'.
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Just finished B Troop, they're Brittania Miniatures, dire sculpts really...
but hell, they'll do!
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Just read Wooden Leg's account of the Custer fight. Three times he mentions the soldiers 'going crazy and shooting one another'. Stating that most of 'em were dead, before the Indians got to them. Then again, most of his mates state, that the 'Big Soldier Chief' was Custer, they recognised him from his flowing blond locks. This is crap, as the Boy General, had his hair cut short for the campaign.
Still makes grim reading, indeed.
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Indeed, the description of the discovery of the bodies at Last Stand Hill bloated and black from lying mostly naked in the sun, and horribly mutilated, is one of the most grim descriptions I've ever read - though not specific from Wooden Leg. There are even a few photographs of the mutilation. Horrific. War is brutality at its worst, or can be.
When do we get to see B troop in its glory?
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When do we get to see B troop in its glory?
B Troop? ... We need to see EVERYTHING laid out ... of course he might need to take the photo suspended from a gantry above the table to fit them all in lol
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"Never mind, you can forestall any negative remarks by saying you carved them yourself from bits of coal."
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Well, now, nice spread. And, I think - maybe, you might, almost, have enough for a game. Or three. :D
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"Never mind, you can forestall any negative remarks by saying you carved them yourself from bits of coal."
lol
I'm guessing those are the Britannia ones? I expect they will take more casualties from small arms fire due to their larger target area.
Still...quantity has a quality of its own.
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That's 'em, dreadful ain't they? Another eight War Party's and job's a good 'un.
I'm aiming for 'Pony Wars' games, or maybe 'Custer'e Last Stand' in 1to1 scale!
And yes, these Redskins will ride, fight and die... Hollywood style!
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That's 'em, dreadful ain't they? Another eight War Party's and job's a good 'un.
I'm aiming for 'Pony Wars' games, or maybe 'Custer'e Last Stand' in 1to1 scale!
And yes, these Redskins will ride, fight and die... Hollywood style!
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As you know, i'm not a fan of those sculpts, but honestly its the overall look, which en masse will be stunning, given the scale of your project... if you were planning a skirmish game with a dozen figures a side, i'd suggest go for different minis...but you've got those as well ;)
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Your lads will be doing the 'normal' games. The Munchkins will ride when I go 'Big Boy's' toys!
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The Chief of Scouts reined in his pony...
"Report."
Ordered Yellow Hair.
"Ginrel Sir, don't go down there, there's too many Indians, even for you!"
Yellow Hair smiled.
"That'll be the day!"
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Those cacti look great
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Nice collection Harry,re the Britannia minis I quite like them,and with the right paint job they'll pass nicely.
(Pics from Matakishi's Tea House collection which I've always admired ). :)
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This is all Matakishi's fault!
I saw his Custer's Last Stand collection, and fell in love with it. What I've found is, the Brittania giant heads, makes cracking warpaint really pop. Paul loves the little swine, and had a couple of the unbuilt wagons, off me.
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This is all Matakishi's fault!
I saw his Custer's Last Stand collection, and fell in love with it. What I've found is, the Brittania giant heads, makes cracking warpaint really pop. Paul loves the little swine, and had a couple of the unbuilt wagons, off me.
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A. Lovely collection. You just might have enough Indians at this point. More will be even better, methinks.
B. Would I be pissing on your parade if I pointed out that no cacti were present at Little Big Horn? :o They do look grand, though...
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I shall speak out of turn and state that I'm pretty sure Harry is just doing a 'parade' and the cacti are not for the Greasy Grass but for when his Apache make a showing.
And there must be Apache in the mix. A travesty of the highest order if not! :o
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And there, in a nutshell, is mi' conundrum!
Do I do it 'properly' with terrain looking like the Great Plains? Or go full blown, 'Pony Wars'/'She Wore a Yellow Ribbon'!!!???
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Well, here comes Ole Grumpy again to set things straight - if not right.
Monument Valley, land of not one action of the Old West of legend, just a place no one much wanted to visit, not even hardly the local indigenous folk, not enough water for a mouse to take a bath most of the time. Water is kind of important for people and horses and all.
Saguaro cactus grow about 400 miles south of Monument Valley - which is about 850 miles southish of Little Bighorn battle site. And that is the dominant species in Harry's pictured collection - though just above a rock there is a prickly pear and they do grow in the valley area.
So, if you go 'whole hog' over the wagon's transom and include saguaro at Little Bighorn - to mix my metaphors - you'd be 'planting' saguaro over 1200 miles from their natural habitat - sort of the distance from London to Algeria more or less.
Now, there ain't no reason you can't. It is a game after all. I'd just call it a variation of Cat Ballou - wildly inaccurate but fun anyway.
Now, if you reserve that tall, 'arm'y verdure for when the Apaches go up against the boys in "dirty shirt blue", why, then all shall be right in the world.
Personally, I wouldn't tempt fate and so misrepresent the Ancient Ones by planting them so far from home. :o
Say what, you say? Look up Native American legends about the saguaro.
And then go have fun with your toys! lol
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Harry, if you don't want to go all out with Apaches & 'dirty shirt blue' , you could do a skirmish.
Fistful of Lead, and some of the nice new figures out there. Gringo 40s, Galloping Major etc.
Just a suggestion. :)
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And there, in a nutshell, is mi' conundrum!
Do I do it 'properly' with terrain looking like the Great Plains? Or go full blown, 'Pony Wars'/'She Wore a Yellow Ribbon'!!!???
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Ain't that what they did in Fort Apache? Henry Fonda met his demise in a battle in the Southwest that reeked of Little Big Horn.... ;)
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One more river to cross...
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And it's trail's end!
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I do believe you have 'almost' enough to have a game or seven. Quite a collection.
Now photo number five of your recent post, what is up with the bloke hiding behind a woman, that is just not sporting, no, sir, not at all. The cad!
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Now photo number five of your recent most, what is up with the bloke hiding behind a woman, that is just not sporting, no, sir, not at all. The cad!
He's wot wos known, in the Old West as... a Baddie!
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Indeed. While not sporting, using civilians as cover is a tried and true tactic. Hmm, there must be a mechanic in our rules for exactly that - with a proper penalty for those who do it. Hmm.
Easy enough in Fistful of Lead, the Swiss Army knife mechanic of a Task Roll. One for the baddie, one for the 'victim', and one - or more - for those targeting the baddie, seems about right to me. Just need to add the post-event penalty, well, if the baddie survives.
(and, yes, I edited my late night ? post to correct a few typos)
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And there, in a nutshell, is mi' conundrum!
Do I do it 'properly' with terrain looking like the Great Plains? Or go full blown, 'Pony Wars'/'She Wore a Yellow Ribbon'!!!???
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Like the man said: “This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend”
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"The hell you say!"
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On the home straight, and disater's strucken!
Thought I'd add a dee-tachment of Buffalo Soldiers. No problem with dismounted Troopers, but can't find 'em mounted. Thought I'd be nailed on with Foundry figures, but can't find 'em?
I believe the 9th and 10th Cavalry had the lowest desertion, and highest re-enlistment rate, in the Cavalry...
be nice to honour 'em.
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They did. Some of the finest regiments in the army during the Indian Wars and later on. The only one I think may have them would be Old Glory.
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Any reason you can't just use mounted figures and paint them accordingly - if they have a hat on? Seems workable to me.
And check out this site if you are not familiar, might be some temptations: https://brigadegamesminis.com/collections/plains-war?srsltid=AfmBOoqO8-a2gs8gdiq0yFS4aJ79fVEaaU8bOUJsHYwk7ddDyKIKAgY_ (https://brigadegamesminis.com/collections/plains-war?srsltid=AfmBOoqO8-a2gs8gdiq0yFS4aJ79fVEaaU8bOUJsHYwk7ddDyKIKAgY_)
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Great thread! :-*
Lotta work! o_o
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Cheers Ray, much appreciated. Working on some 'Last Stand' vignettes this week to use up the odds and sods.
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"Do massacree mean, what I think it means?"
"It do!"
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I've been neeeding some 'fresh' Old West stuff and these bases work the trick - though not for the poor victims. Too busy with other periods to be moving my own OW stuff forward but hopefully soon.