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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: Adey on 22 November 2009, 05:35:15 PM
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The odd couple. Men in bowlers from Ironclad.
(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv266/Adey123/ironcladMIB2.png)
(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv266/Adey123/ironcladMIB1.png)
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aka Laurel and Hardy. lol
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I was expecting some Victorian Men In Black from the title lol
These are very well done, though and I may have to get some for my soon(ish) ::) to be started Victorian Torchwood project.
Actually, they would be very good painted as MIBs.....
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Yes I thought about da film but then it's open to interpretation didn't want to get into dark skin at the time.
Victorian Torchwood sounds quite interesting what figures have you included to date.
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Beautiful work. I may have to take another look at the Ironclad line. :)
Can anyone confirm if Ironclad's are compatible, size-wise, with Copplestone or Artizan figures?
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Yes I thought about da film but then it's open to interpretation didn't want to get into dark skin at the time.
Victorian Torchwood sounds quite interesting what figures have you included to date.
A bit of a mish-mash of different manufacturers. Unfortunately I don't know what most of them are. One is the Foundry limited edition Colonel Moran with a splendidly VSF-looking air rifle. Another is Ironclad's Mina Harker. Of the others, there are several fairly non-descript civilian types, one of my many Dr Watsons, a shady-looking Preacherman who appears to be a vampire-hunter (he may well be another Foundry special) and a Victorian version of the Brigadier. I'm very tempted to use my Ironclad Sherlock as the Victorian version of capt Jack, but I'm not sure about that. Maybe I'll just use him as Holmes in an advisory role. After all, if you are going to do something like this you might as well "kick the arse out of it" as we used to say in the army lol
My concept is that Torchwood is combined or allied with an early version of UNIT, so we have civilian agents investigating alien and paranormal events, with a variety of conventional and unconventional military types ready to be called in when the fun starts.
I'll try and post a pic of the figures I'm thinking of using ( all unpainted as yet :-[ ) tomorrow or Tuesday.
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Beautiful work. I may have to take another look at the Ironclad line. :)
Can anyone confirm if Ironclad's are compatible, size-wise, with Copplestone or Artizan figures?
Slightly taller but look ok together in my opinion.
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Johns' recent figures are rather lovely and an ease to paint.
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Very good. Thanks, Gluteus!
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I bought these to be members of Torchwood too. I am combining civilian and military types, similar to Gluteus. I will be using the Foundry specials Faith and George Tobias as The Hon. Reginald Bumleigh and his sister Lady Joanna Bumleigh who will be escorted by her loyal Ghurkas.
Cheers Mors
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Very nice choice of colours. The figures blend well with Copplestone etc.
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I nearly bought the second figure yesterday at Warfare. It's a really nice sculpt, although a bit pricey at £3 a go.
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Very nice choice of colours.
My thought exactly. Nicely done.
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I nearly bought the second figure yesterday at Warfare. It's a really nice sculpt, although a bit pricey at £3 a go.
They are not the cheapest figures, but they are of very high quality and different from the usual, much like Hasslefree or Heresy. After all, you usually only need one of each character, and the "rank and file" figures are much more affordable for bulk buying.
I'm looking forward to my annual visit to Ironclad's stand at Triples next year, where I'll be able to buy some more characters and hopefully some troops for my "proto-UNIT" forces ;D
Hmm, maybe even an armoured vehicle or two.....
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Yes I thought about da film but then it's open to interpretation didn't want to get into dark skin at the time.
Victorian Torchwood sounds quite interesting what figures have you included to date.
Here are most of the potential Torchwood1889 recruits:
(http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/the_gluteus_maximus/Torchwood1889_01-1.jpg?t=1259063565)
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The Brigadier, by Copplestone (he's obviously in khaki, and I'm planning on playing the games in Britain, but he has that "Lethbridge-Stewart look to me).
The Preacher by Foundry, I think, though possibly Westwind? It's not obvious, but his right hand is holding a stake, with a phial of holy water on his belt.
Col. Moran, again Foundry. Wonderful rifle.
Dr Watson (although I will probably replace him with Ironclad's version, Westwind.
The last three all Westwind I think. The final figure is a marvellous "Mad Professor" type and the penultimate is consulting a fob-watch, which somehow seems quite apt to me.
Mina Harker has gone AWOL at present, but here's the one from Ironclad's site:
(http://www.ironcladminiatures.co.uk/.media/360385257510.png)
As I said earlier, I'm possibly going to use Ironclad's Sherlock too:
(http://www.ironcladminiatures.co.uk/.media/682888785095.png)
However, I like your MIBs so much, I'll probably be buying them as well.
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Adey: great figures, really well painted, excellent job.
... some troops for my "proto-UNIT" forces ;D
Hmm, maybe even an armoured vehicle or two.....
Sounds great, I'd be very interested in how that would work... and how you'd paint them. 'Traditional' style, the VSF equivalent being greeen jackets and khaki pith-helmets I guess, or 'modern' style, in black jackets and red pith-helmets? I take it, they will have pith-helmets? Or perhaps Glengarrys would work... ooh, I'm going to run away and work out how to do UNIT in 1889 now. Nice figs for Torchwood too.. only thing is (and obviously it's not your fault), you need more girls. Pretty sure even in the Victorian era, Torchwood was an equal ops employer.
If only there were more female figures out there (for just about every range imaginable). Off the top of my head, I'm looking for about 15 Victorian females from aristocratic adventuresses to French assassins to plucky serving girls... and Foundry is about the only place I've found that does more than one or two.
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Adey: great figures, really well painted, excellent job.
If only there were more female figures out there (for just about every range imaginable). Off the top of my head, I'm looking for about 15 Victorian females from aristocratic adventuresses to French assassins to plucky serving girls... and Foundry is about the only place I've found that does more than one or two.
I agree with paintjob!
I also second the comments about the girls. Indeed there is need for more female figures!!!
Hope that we shall see some more figures soon.
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If only there were more female figures out there (for just about every range imaginable). Off the top of my head, I'm looking for about 15 Victorian females from aristocratic adventuresses to French assassins to plucky serving girls... and Foundry is about the only place I've found that does more than one or two.
Try westwind Miniatures and Eureka, they have a fair amount of Female Victorian ladies.
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Adey: great figures, really well painted, excellent job.
Sounds great, I'd be very interested in how that would work... and how you'd paint them. 'Traditional' style, the VSF equivalent being greeen jackets and khaki pith-helmets I guess, or 'modern' style, in black jackets and red pith-helmets? I take it, they will have pith-helmets? Or perhaps Glengarrys would work... ooh, I'm going to run away and work out how to do UNIT in 1889 now. Nice figs for Torchwood too.. only thing is (and obviously it's not your fault), you need more girls. Pretty sure even in the Victorian era, Torchwood was an equal ops employer.
If only there were more female figures out there (for just about every range imaginable). Off the top of my head, I'm looking for about 15 Victorian females from aristocratic adventuresses to French assassins to plucky serving girls... and Foundry is about the only place I've found that does more than one or two.
I'm torn between home service dress and khaki :?
My Brigadier (Algernon Lethbridge-Stewart, ancestor of the recent version) is in khaki, because I love the figure. I don't want to start designing snazzy uniforms, as I imagine them to be a pretty covert unit, unlike the high-profile modern versions. Her Majesty ( Gawd bless 'er) in "Tooth and Claw" seemed very keen to keep the whole alien/paranormal thing quiet, so having a very visible unit might be counter-productive.
I'm very tempted to use Ironclad's infantry, but painted as the rifle Brigade. They were quite an elite unit and trained to be quick-thinking, use self-reliance and small-unit tactics, so they seem an ideal recruitment source to me.
I'm more than happy to recruit suitable young ladies, but you are right, the problem is finding the right figures. I have virtually all of Foundry's Darkest Africa and Victorian females, but not too many fit. There is one that I got along with the freebie "Queen Vic with shotgun" several years ago, who is armed with a pistol. She would be a good addition. I'll have to look through that section of the lead mountain for more recruits :)
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Try westwind Miniatures and Eureka, they have a fair amount of Female Victorian ladies.
Good suggestions, as ever ;)
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Try westwind Miniatures and Eureka, they have a fair amount of Female Victorian ladies.
Also BlueMoonManufacturing.
But having all of them, still need some more different figures!
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There was in fact a 'Victorian' episode of Torchwood and the two agents operating in Cardiff at that time were both female.
The troops present at the creation of Torchwood were Scottish weren't they? I'd go with that and make it a scott's regiment.
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There was in fact a 'Victorian' episode of Torchwood and the two agents operating in Cardiff at that time were both female.
The troops present at the creation of Torchwood were Scottish weren't they? I'd go with that and make it a scott's regiment.
These would would work at a pinch if the tunic was painted scarlet and the kilts in tartan.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=14158.0
For a really off the wall Torchwood look what about Copplestone naval brigade painted up in blue/black with a red sailor hat - or is that just plain silly?
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Was there supposed to be a pic in there Nick?
Not sure I like the idea of black and red Naval Brigade. Might work with a rifles unit with Glengarry though, some of the tunics were such a dark green they looked black anyway.
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Musketeer WW1 Hihghlanders could work with Glengarries especially as they are tooled up all modern like (for 1889)
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I like the WWI highlander idea. The Lee-Enfields could be experimental weapons which wouldn't look too distinctive to Joe Public 8)
The red caps and blackish uniforms would make good continuity to the latest UNIT, but unfortunately that sidesteps the 70s version with their SAS style beige berets and 60s olive green combats. :?
Maybe I'll try some of Empress's Zulu War British in glengarries, painted as Rifles.
Meanwhile, here are two more female recruits:
(http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/the_gluteus_maximus/th_DSCF1476-1.jpg)
Both from Foundry. I particularly like the one in the very impractical Victorian dress, holding the revolver in the two-handed pose we've come to expect in every police or thriller film lol
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I like the WWI highlander idea. The Lee-Enfields could be experimental weapons which wouldn't look too distinctive to Joe Public 8)
Not all that experimental. The British Army had magazine rifles by 1888. Okay, not that particular magazine rifle, but apart from the end of the barrel, a Lee-Metford doesn't look all that different to a SMLE, especially if viewed by someone who isn't too particular about such things. :)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/800px-Lee-Metford_MLE_Mk_I.jpg)
The glaring anachronism that would make them a no-no for me is the 08 pattern webbing. ;)
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Two very good points, Plynkes.
the rifle would be ok - I'd forgotten the Lee-Metford would be contemporary, but the webbing would look wrong :-[
Looks like I'll use either Ironclad in Home Service Uniform, or Empress Zulu War - maybe with the pith helmet in rifle green and the badge painted in red. That way they will look different froim regular troops, but not glaringly so :)
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the rifle would be ok - I'd forgotten the Lee-Metford would be contemporary, but the webbing would look wrong :-[
Do remember this is VSF who cares if the webbing is wrong. If the figures look good use them ;)
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Do remember this is VSF who cares if the webbing is wrong. If the figures look good use them ;)
You're right, of course lol
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Plus I'd point out that Modern Unit/Torchwood has access to lasers etc so I see no reason why the 1889 version couldn't have webbing that the normal army didn't start using for another 19 years.
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I was actually joking about the webbing, hence the ";)" at the end.
This being VSF and all that, I figured we were working to a less than strict framework regarding that type of thing. Paint it in a nice blanco colour or black leather and it'd look Victorian enough.
Edit: I'm being even more anachronistic than anyone here! "Blanco" is a 1930s and onwards thing, ain't it! lol White. I mean white.
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I was actually joking about the webbing, hence the ";)" at the end.
This being VSF and all that, I figured we were working to a less than strict framework regarding that type of thing. Paint it in a nice blanco colour or black leather and it'd look Victorian enough.
I think the replies were mostly aimed at Gluteus rather than you Plynkes (for once :D )
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I think the replies were mostly aimed at Gluteus rather than you Plynkes (for once :D )
Yep solely aimed at old Big Bum this time ;)
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Yep solely aimed at old Big Bum this time ;)
Thats my pet name for him - find your own >:D
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The red caps and blackish uniforms would make good continuity to the latest UNIT, but unfortunately that sidesteps the 70s version with their SAS style beige berets and 60s olive green combats. :?
Maybe I'll try some of Empress's Zulu War British in glengarries, painted as Rifles...
That's why I was suggesting green jackets (so they looked like a rifle regiment) but khaki (=beige, more or less) pith-helmets (or glengarries). Black and red would be very odd, but quite striking.
The whole thing is a bit conceptually weird, as UNIT is supposed to be multi-national... what would a Prussian or French UNIT unit wear?
...Meanwhile, here are two more female recruits:
(http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/the_gluteus_maximus/th_DSCF1476-1.jpg)
Both from Foundry. I particularly like the one in the very impractical Victorian dress, holding the revolver in the two-handed pose we've come to expect in every police or thriller film lol
Excellent minis both of them. Hurrah for any Victorian adventuresses!
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I was actually joking about the webbing, hence the ";)" at the end.
This being VSF and all that, I figured we were working to a less than strict framework regarding that type of thing. Paint it in a nice blanco colour or black leather and it'd look Victorian enough.
Edit: I'm being even more anachronistic than anyone here! "Blanco" is a 1930s and onwards thing, ain't it! lol White. I mean white.
Yes, I missed that "winky" and have to admit that I do get carried away sometimes by the need for "accuracy". Probably from spending too much time playing Napoleonics. It really is important to get the correct button spacing on your 15mm Coldstream Guardsmen, after all ;)
And as for the Chuckle Brothers with their pet names >:(
lol lol
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The whole thing is a bit conceptually weird, as UNIT is supposed to be multi-national... what would a Prussian or French UNIT unit wear?
Presumably the other Nationalities in the 20th/21st centuries would have their own uniforms, equipment and weapons, but adopt the UNIT beret and badges - much like the real-life UN troops do.
I don't know about 19thC though. Personally I'm not going to use my troops specifically as UNIT, more as an early ancester developed in the UK to support Torchwood and later expanded to other nations when the threat from above was recognised. That's the gaming justification for keeping it British - in practice I don't have the time or money to have other nations involved ;)
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UNIT prior to 1945 doesn't make sense anyway unless we are talking alternate timelines or something, as it's an arm of the U.N. They only changed it so that the U.N. part of UNIT doesn't stand for United Nations any more because the real U.N. asked the makers of Doctor Who to stop using their name.
Torchwood and UNIT, while they might have similar goals, don't seem to me like organisations that would be too happy cooperating. I see them as rivals (for resources, if nothing else), if not quite enemies.
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UNIT prior to 1945 doesn't make sense anyway unless we are talking alternate timelines or something, as it's an arm of the U.N. They only changed it so that the U.N. part of UNIT doesn't stand for United Nations any more because the real U.N. asked the makers of Doctor Who to stop using their name.
Torchwood and UNIT, while they might have similar goals, don't seem to me like organisations that would be too happy cooperating. I see them as rivals (for resources, if nothing else), if not quite enemies.
A bit like the British police and MI5, or US police and the FBI then. A good point and true of the series in the 21stC, but as I've already had a good telling off for this sort of thing, I'm going to use them together in the VSF 19thC and say they fell out later.
So there!
lol lol
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To hell with rest of the world! Unless they're a colony of course, or let our boys in to do their thing no questions asked :D
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Whant more ladies? ;) Try Brigade Games the Victorian Gangster range has some gangs intented for New York with some women, the G.A.S.L.I.G.H.T range has women in ACW Zouave uniforms and the "Victoria Hawes" character comes in five different poses each with 11 diffrent hands (some left some right) I have the Pith Helmet & Binoculars pose. The Virtual Armchair General has the B'hoys range also based on that film about certain New York gangs-I always thought that the "Police" both Municipal and Metropolitan might serve over this side of the pond as some sort of corporate/company/factory police -keep order with the downtrodden workers or keep prying eyes away.
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The Virtual Armchair General has the B'hoys range also based on that film about certain New York gangs-I always thought that the "Police" both Municipal and Metropolitan might serve over this side of the pond as some sort of corporate/company/factory police -keep order with the downtrodden workers or keep prying eyes away.
Oooooooh! I can think of a use for these chaps. Has anyone got any? I notice they are advertised as 28mm but wondering how they compare to other manufacturers.
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TC, They size quite nicely with everything else I have. I picked up the pack of personalities ie Butcher Bill and Co at the Fall In flea market, they had a pack of the coppers too but I passed as I don't have a use for them.