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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: Easy E on June 25, 2024, 06:36:00 PM

Title: Review: With Hot Lead and Cold Steel- Osprey
Post by: Easy E on June 25, 2024, 06:36:00 PM
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This came out in early 2024 (or was it late 2023?) as part of the the Osprey Blue Book series.  I was happy to see another Historical themed entry in the series!  I tend to prefer the more Historical focused games as they seemed like a nice way to springboard me into a new genre of wargaming in a way that the Sci-fi/Fantasy Blue Books don't manage for me.  A bias for sure!  Anyway, the ACW has been one of those genres that I had some mild interest in, but did not want to invest a bunch of money in thick hardbacks and games only to learn that it didn't do much for me.  Therefore, I was eager to get my hands on this game.  Despite this eagerness, I was delayed in picking it up.  My FLGS seemed to have a hard time getting it into my hot, little hands.  Eventually, I managed to snag a copy.  Better late than never!

It is with some pride that I note this is an 80 page book.  I tend to think that my work with Castles in the Sky opened up Osprey to the idea of having the Blue Book series expand from 64 to 80 pages.  That left more room for a rule set to breath, add some needed details, and leave some more room for art and charts.  However, that added size also means they are now a few dollars more as well.  I am interested to see if Osprey continues this trend of 80 page books, or goes back to the 64 page of the earlier series.  I can see benefits to both approaches as a gamer, a designer, and as a buyer. 

With that said, these rules are intended for use at the brigade and/or divisional level engagements.  That gives it a large scope for various battles of the American Civil War.  The game design notes indicate that the rules are intended to be streamlined and quick-play, but with appropriate historical details, and with a view to using Miniatures.  That sounds good to me! 

So, let's move double time to the sound of the bugles, and rally around the flag as we drive forward into these rules! 

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Title: Re: Review: With Hot Lead and Cold Steel- Osprey
Post by: CapnJim on June 25, 2024, 08:56:22 PM
Thanks for that review!

My regular gaming group has taken these rules for a spin, and we like them.  We used them to play the Battle of Iuka (see my "ACW Stuff" thread...), and I am building a28mm ACW armied with the Battle of Valverde in mind (a scenario for which is up on my ACW thread, specifically set up for With Hot Lead and Cold Steel).  We will definitely be playing these rules again in the future...

As a note, we don't mind the "suggestions" vs. "rules" approach to this ruleset.  We are experienced enough ga,ers that we can figure that out.  But you're right - some less experienced gamers, or those who are rules sticklers, may be put off a bit by that approach...

Anyhoo, thanks again for the review.  Well done!
Title: Re: Review: With Hot Lead and Cold Steel- Osprey
Post by: Easy E on June 28, 2024, 03:29:41 PM
I see this Toolbox approach featuring more often in Historical rules.  There seems to be a sort of assumption that players will pick and choose what they want to simulate. 

Meanwhile, in more Game focused rulesets they tend to have a much more authoritative approach to writing the rules and seem to come from the expectation that players MUST use all the rules written down.

Probably a discussion for a whole other thread. 
Title: Re: Review: With Hot Lead and Cold Steel- Osprey
Post by: Brian Smaller on February 07, 2025, 12:20:40 AM
Thanks for this review. One thing I liked about these rules is that you can easily add or subtract rules to suit your table without affecting the core game. 
Title: Re: Review: With Hot Lead and Cold Steel- Osprey
Post by: General Lee on February 09, 2025, 01:39:11 PM
Thanks for sharing your thoughts guys! I am happy to hear that you enjoy the rules. I have mde an addendum in the mean time with some extra ideas we couldn't fit into the book. I can share that document with you if you'd like
Title: Re: Review: With Hot Lead and Cold Steel- Osprey
Post by: CapnJim on February 09, 2025, 05:40:43 PM
Thanks for sharing your thoughts guys! I am happy to hear that you enjoy the rules. I have mde an addendum in the mean time with some extra ideas we couldn't fit into the book. I can share that document with you if you'd like

I would like!  ;)   How shall we do that?
Title: Re: Review: With Hot Lead and Cold Steel- Osprey
Post by: Brian Smaller on February 09, 2025, 06:03:40 PM
Thanks for sharing your thoughts guys! I am happy to hear that you enjoy the rules. I have mde an addendum in the mean time with some extra ideas we couldn't fit into the book. I can share that document with you if you'd like

That would be great.
Title: Re: Review: With Hot Lead and Cold Steel- Osprey
Post by: General Lee on February 09, 2025, 06:57:46 PM
Here it is (see attachment)

There is also a pretty lively Facebook group if any of you have an account there.
Title: Re: Review: With Hot Lead and Cold Steel- Osprey
Post by: CapnJim on February 09, 2025, 07:23:47 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Review: With Hot Lead and Cold Steel- Osprey
Post by: Brian Smaller on February 09, 2025, 09:24:34 PM
Here it is (see attachment)

There is also a pretty lively Facebook group if any of you have an account there.

Cheers mate.