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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: italwars on July 30, 2024, 11:02:22 AM
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Hello
Please i' asking your advice to choose scale of some BPM guns ecc , modern types, that i'll like to order ..BMP gave a choice between 20mm-1/76 or upgrade to 20mm-1/72.
https://www.butlersprintedmodels.co.uk/
I m thinking, for example, to order some guns from Falklands War and some Cold War Russian HMGs and AFVs..my minis that ll use aside them range from Platoon 20 and Liberation plus and plastic such as Matchbox NATO British Paras and A Call To Arms..that's to say 20mm or 1/76 or 1/72 but only nominally..in fact today everything is called 20mm for metal minis and 1/72 for plastic ones..so i'm a bit confused..
Has anybody already bought some BPM 3D stuff..what you suggest 1/76 or 1/72?
many thanks
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At the risk of starting a long discussion.....
1:76 and 1:72 are SCALES; "20mm" is a vague description of a miniature figures SIZE depending where you measure to and from.....
In addition, 20mm figures come in various styles, from chunky to slight to anatomically correct.....
Platoon 20 are an older range as are the original dollies for Liberation; both are small but chunky...
The plastics mentioned are according to Plastic Soldier Review on the small end of the spectrum.
1:76 scale is 4mm to the foot whereas 1:72 is 1" = 6 ft. 1:76 grew out of model railway British OO gauge, 1:72 from model aircraft. Hence you sometimes see 25mm described as 1:72.
In 1:76, a 6' man would be 24mm tall, 5 '6" 22mm tall.
There is also aesthetics. 1:72 will lend to be larger models; some 3D 1:72 prints are huge and probably overscale. If you like your vehicles large compared to figures, go 1:72.
For Falklands, Scimitar and Panhards will be quite small anyway. Airfix do some vehicles suitable, but they are 1:76 despite the 1:72 label - thinking Scopion and ex-JW Landies and trucks....
Neil
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Forgot to add, only had 1:87 scale from them.
Neil
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I concur with what panzer21 says.
I’d suggest getting a ruler out and checking the size of some of your existing vehicles, and then working out what scale they are (my experience would be that sometimes they aren’t quite the same scale in each dimension)!
3d printing should allow very good to scale reproduction of vehicles.
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Has anybody already bought some BPM 3D stuff
I expect that Carlos will be along shortly...I understand that he is a big fan of BPM ;)
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Oh yeah, hadn’t spotted this was particularly about BPM - do check what their models look like - they are some really crude steeped prints - nothing like as good as you can get from a current resin printer.
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Thanks for all your dedicated replies..i've decided according to your suggestions..by the way some of the answers are very amusing ;) ;) ..let's see once they ll arrive..i'm very curious
..the Oerlikon AA double barreled piece which was a central piece during the battle of Goose Green, is made only by BPM and from the pict it appears nice...probably i should have bought also the radar to which it was connected but let's see for the moment what i ll get and, above all, how much the "criminals/mafiosi" of the Italian Mail Service will extort me for supposed to be import and handling fees.. :'(
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I can't speak to your scale/size issue but I will say that the Butler printed models I've purchased have been more than good enough. Not sure why some people decry their quality - maybe they are into creating prize winning models. But they work for me.
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Oh yeah, hadn’t spotted this was particularly about BPM - do check what their models look like - they are some really crude steeped prints - nothing like as good as you can get from a current resin printer.
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They now do resin prints for slightly more money which get rid of the steps.....
Neil