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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: KGatch113 on 27 August 2024, 07:05:11 AM
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Looking for a line of historical miniatures with knights on foot for the era 1250-1350. Basically the time when plate armors were being introduced but great helms still being worn. Would love it if they were compatible with Fireforge plastics. Their knights etc are too early.....
I forgot to add this line: Perry's Agincourt and WOTR are too small, so anything that matches them would be too.
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I don't know about plastic ranges for that era, but Mirliton has some metal offerings for the period:
Linkidyclick (https://www.mirliton.it/historical-25-28mm/medieval/italians/italian-knight-1250-1300-mec041)
(https://www.mirliton.it/image/catalog/products/MEC041.jpg)
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capitalisation in that subject line really confused me... don't Knight Miniatures do the Batman game?
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Certainly for the mid 13th century you could look at 1st Corps, Gripping Beast, Essex Miniatures and possibly Footsore. Some sell their ranges as "Crusaders" but unless I am missing something this is just marketing .
Regards.
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If they are wearing a surcoat then it may be hard to tell if they have a coat of plates underneath, so you could probably get away with some earlier figures.
Try Foundry. Some of their medievals fall into the early Hundred Years War period, which is at the tail end of the period you want to cover.
Otherwise, as others have mentioned above.
As was suggested, maybe look at Late Crusades ranges, they fall into the earlier part of what you are looking for. Avoid the Teutonic helms with extravagant crests (or cut them off).
Curteys/1st Corps may also prove helpful.
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For the latter part of your period of interest (ie mid 14th century) you could also look at any Hundred Years'War range such as that by Front Rank/ Gripping Beaat.
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Crusader Miniatures are my favourites:
https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=5&sub=56&page=1
https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=5&sub=60&page=1
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Crusader make nice stuff, but it is too early.
1st Corps has a select few that match, and Mirliton have a few. I've not tried the Gripping Beast stuff, they've gotten ludicrously expensive and their castings are horrible.
This is ideally what the OP is looking for, as I've looked around for it too.
(https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2b85223074b204f1264b5eb5e1c43b23-pjlq)
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7d/08/eb/7d08eba05a6e21e43c3e3d8d14b9c073.jpg)
(https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-59d48be11c572b56708fde773db7d9df-lq)
Most manufacturers seem to go straight from 'Late Crusades' to the full plate in the Hundred Years Wars.
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Essex cover the period, although their figures are a lot chunkier than Fireforge's:
https://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/collections/25mm-medieval-later-period (https://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/collections/25mm-medieval-later-period)
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I agree it's not easy to find miniatures for this period - maybe look at Antidiluvian, Claymore and there's a few Footsore characters like Robert the Bruce that might do?
Foundry and Front rank do 'early' Hundred Years War maybe some contenders in the small Crusader HYW range and possibly look at 1st Corps/Curteys Kingmaker range of medievals?
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I wonder if you borrow some Bretonnia parts and early Citadel stuff. Might be a mix and match job ;)
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Antediluvian Miniatures "Wars of The Bruces" range* for the very late 1200s- early 1300s, moving into Claymore's Crecy range for the 1320s- 1350s. Both sculpted by Matt Bickley and absolutely the gold standard for this period, bar none.
*as distinct from the ex-Claymore "Otterburn" and ""Harlaw" stuff, which is much later, obviously.
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Antediluvian Miniatures "Wars of The Bruces" range* for the very late 1200s- early 1300s, moving into Claymore's Crecy range for the 1320s- 1350s. Both sculpted by Matt Bickley and absolutely the gold standard for this period, bar none.
*as distinct from the ex-Claymore "Otterburn" and ""Harlaw" stuff, which is much later, obviously.
I have been told Claymore's stuff is smaller than Perry's, so they are a no go.
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I have been told Claymore's stuff is smaller than Perry's, so they are a no go.
I wouldn't believe everything you're told....
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/3CE96I.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pn3CE96Ij)
If anything I find that the Bickley Claymore sculpts are actually very slightly more substantial than Perry ones, though it of course varies between figures. But since Perry don't make figures for the period you're after, it seems a moot point.
On the other hand, for the later Lancastrian phase of the HYW, where Perry and (formerly) Claymore did cross over a bit, then at times some of the Hicks "Otterburn" sculpts do appear very slightly smaller than Perry, but it's so marginal that once painted and based they're pretty much indistinguishable.
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I can’t recommend Claymore enough, they fit this period, they’re very well researched, good casting, good sculpts, good prices, good range.
Also antediluvian miniature’s Bruce pikemen are also sculpted by bickley.
V&V miniatures have a Teutonic crusader set with coats of plates, these should be suitable for the early HYW, but they are resin and very expensive.
Aside from those, footsore could fit up to around 1320, mail remained overwhelmingly the most common armour up to around 1370 however the pot and nasal helmets start looking a little outdated after 1300, although we do know that in 1322 at least some did appear as those 100 years before, but things like the bascinet and brigandine rapidly became popular and affordable as the HYW kicks off.
Some of the Perry stuff is suitable for the mid 14th.c but it’s your call as to when exactly you want to play.
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If you have access to a resin printer:
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-early-100yw-knights-with-great-helms-383616
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-early-100yw-knights-with-great-helms-383616
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-early-14th-century-deutschritter-370504
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-early-14th-century-knight-with-great-helmet-392146
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-late-13th-century-knight-for-28mm-wargaming-free-miniature-350224
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For my second barons war i used a mix of
Mirliton knights mounted
Fireforge foot
Mirliton and foundry command
Then for my Scottish wars
Claymore and antediluvian miniatures
Mirliton and claymore mounted
Old glory bits
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I'm a fan of Essex for that time range. They hold up well vs more modern sculpts and have a lot of interesting detail on their armor I think. They're not as tall as some of the newer figs but not far off either. They are a little chunkier but that helps them blend in I think.