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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Grimmnar on 02 September 2024, 04:41:14 AM
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Hello all,
Painting yellow, what a bitch. I asked 12 painters, all ranging from hobby level to professional painters with years professionally in the hobby, and no two methods were the same.
Here is a link to a YT playlist I cobbled together of YT Pro Painter's videos about painting yellow. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_QlcHM1NHoR4MYLnd8Bxs80SB4uo_HDq&si=Y00xzsAt1uxqpjIt
So, for everyone else, how do you paint yellow?
Grimm
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/FdMEW1U36hFQZ67m/?mibextid=oFDknk
https://grimmnarsgrotto.blogspot.com/2024/09/painting-yellow-is-bitch.html
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I use Reaper's Pink as a basecoat - makes it so much nicer. Also airbrush
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The new range of Fanatic paints from Army Painter are highly pigmented. I have bought yellow and red and had good results.
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Like Burgundavia, I use a pink undercoat. That revolutionised painting yellow for me.
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Not tried a pink undercoat, must give it a try. I usually go for a dark sand undercoat, highlighted up with light sand, and top painted with Daler Rowney FW ink. It’s the most pigmented yellow colour I’ve found. This works for orange as well, at least in my experience.
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White undercoat, and contrast yellow - both the contrast yellows I have tried have excellent coverage, and depth of colour. Total game changer over the normal thin yellow acrylic paints.
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White undercoat, then light kaki / greenish sand colour. Then yellow.
Same for blonde hair: highlights of golden brown, or even gold, above greenish sand.
Never thought about using pink! :o
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White undercoat, then light kaki / greenish sand colour. Then yellow.
Same for blonde hair: highlights of golden brown, or even gold, above greenish sand.
Never thought about using pink! :o
Exactly that!
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That’s interesting Fred. The contrast yellow I bought, exactly for this, is almost completely transparent. I must have a duff bottle……
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Patrice/Michi, I can see that working for a cold sulphur type yellow, and it’s close to what I use for blonde hair, but doesn’t it turn a warm egg yolk yellow colour a bit muddy?
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https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=contrast+yellow+paint&mid=0D2CDAD194536782EAB10D2CDAD194536782EAB1&FORM=VIRE
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Back when I was younger (and obviously stupider), I painted my Imperial Fists over a black basecoat ::)
If my memory serves me right, it went something like this:
Black undercoat
Medium to light brown basecoat
Many, many layers of a saturated, warm yellow (not that many, but still at least 4) till the colour was even
Progressively lighter highlights with a lighter lemony yellow mixed with the previous yellow
Shading with a thinned down light brown (like Snakebite Leather)
Edge highlights with the previous light yellow and white
All in all, easily 10 to 15 layers just for the basic colour of the minis. I really had more time than sense back then... lol
Of course nowadays I do the same with a white basecoat and two layers of yellow ink, some highlights in white and some shading in a light brown.
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I use Yellow Ochre as an undercoat, then highlight with yellow.
Must try a pink undercoat though. :)
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That’s interesting Fred. The contrast yellow I bought, exactly for this, is almost completely transparent. I must have a duff bottle……
The two yellows I have are
IronJawz Yellow - and mid yellow and
Iyaden yellow - a more orangey yellow
Both cover great - in fact I have had good coverage from all the contrast paints I have tried. I few of the darker shades don’t do so much of the contrast effect, but I still like them for easy of painting.
Struggling to find a good photo - but the two flyers at the left foreground are IronJawz yellow - likely just a single coat.
(https://i.imgur.com/rqWT8va.jpeg)
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Patrice/Michi, I can see that working for a cold sulphur type yellow, and it’s close to what I use for blonde hair, but doesn’t it turn a warm egg yolk yellow colour a bit muddy?
If it happens I may add another coat of yellow on some places... I'm not a very good painter anyway. ::)
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These days for any largish areas of yellow, I paint white and then add colour with inks and glazes. So much easier.
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The two yellows I have are
IronJawz Yellow - and mid yellow and
Iyaden yellow - a more orangey yellow
Both cover great - in fact I have had good coverage from all the contrast paints I have tried. I few of the darker shades don’t do so much of the contrast effect, but I still like them for easy of painting.
Struggling to find a good photo - but the two flyers at the left foreground are IronJawz yellow - likely just a single coat.
(https://i.imgur.com/rqWT8va.jpeg)
(http://)
Very interesting Fred. Iyaden yellow is the one I have as well. Basically just lightly stains the surface, comes out nothing like yours. Must be something I’m doing wrong :o
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Patrice/Michi, I can see that working for a cold sulphur type yellow, and it’s close to what I use for blonde hair, but doesn’t it turn a warm egg yolk yellow colour a bit muddy?
No, not at all. The use of the yellow tone itself decides whether it’s a warm or cold one.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgq4KxgZIK6dPgr_FMZ8jfAwK83_xAxaEu1gHpFx3zFzpI1jGZ8P7uh34WsoQwL3fZkb64F4F4bO6JTuZalArZjjEQtVdisq0l2ahD2piRXXBhyphenhyphenqa0g7Lu9GHQW1wAxpvt8goPJ_fprFwH2qM3btaSrGJBGm_nI-LdMiqrMkCZWYS5J10Cxg_vrwAZo8FTu/s1024/IMG_8123.JPG)
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Very interesting Fred. Iyaden yellow is the one I have as well. Basically just lightly stains the surface, comes out nothing like yours. Must be something I’m doing wrong :o
Iyaden is a darker more orangey shade than those two - I’ll see if I can find some photos tonight. Other than giving the pots a good shake, and it’s fairly obvious when contras paint separates out, I can’t say there is anything special I do. Primer / undercoat matters, but more from a colour perspective, pale grey vs white gives different results, and you can pre-shade as well to get different effects. But those ones above at most where pale grey Vallejo brush on primer, with a dry brush of Vallejo white, then IronJawz contrast with a big brush!
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Thanks for the replies guys. Some great ideas for me to try out here. I need to investigate a pink undercoat. Looks like I need to give the contrast paint another go as well. The Iyaden yellow was my trial pot after the rave launch reviews and it left me so underwhelmed I never looked further into the range.
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2010sunburst - if that doesn’t work I can recommend trying Monument Hobbies Pro Acryl range: they are very smooth and consistent, and when paired with their Glaze and Wash medium (seriously check this witchcraft out) you can make your own contrasts (out of any decent paint not just PA - worked fine with my Vallejo’s). I painted some battlemechs in white for a friend using G&W and it was soooooo easy it felt like I was cheating. I’ve had no luck with (Games Workshop) contrasts, as I generally don’t like the finish or effect, but I’m totally converted to the Monument Hobbies Glaze & Wash method
Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
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https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=contrast+yellow+paint&mid=0D2CDAD194536782EAB10D2CDAD194536782EAB1&FORM=VIRE
Oh I made sure to include that in the playlist above. But great addition, thanks.
Grimm
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For those looking to try the PINK undercoat, I hear good things for a resolution.
Here is a good and possibly thr best video on it. https://youtu.be/mmnPkiiswPk?si=G_HSyoDyR_oQP8lt It's another vid in the playlist above.
Would love anycomments from those that try the pink undercoat process. Post here please.
Grimm
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A little late, I know, but I’ve used the pink undercoat on a couple of miniatures and am suitably impressed.
Both miniatures primed white. All colours from the Vallejo range and were brush painted. Photos aren’t great, but show off what I mean.
Horse cloth on the right was done conventionally. Pale sand underpaint with ivory white highlights, then three layers of yellow ink overpaint.
Horse cloth on the left was under painted with one coat of old rose then overpainted with two layers of yellow ink. The old rose allowed the undercoat to act as highlights.
There is a much better depth of colour to the pink underpainting in my opinion. It’s certainly the method I will use going fowards.