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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: anton ryzbak on 11 September 2024, 07:29:54 PM

Title: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians ...Last unit of Indian Horse
Post by: anton ryzbak on 11 September 2024, 07:29:54 PM
.......which I started back in the '80s!   I have resolved to paint my way through my backlog of half-finished armies. I usually buy all of the troops that I need for an army either all at once or over a short period of time. I have been carting around thousands of 25/28mm ancients since the late '70s-early '80s. These figures will find few customers at flea-markets or Ebay so I might as well get around to painting them myself.  First on the list are my Ancient Indians. I have been faffing about avoiding painting my chariots for half a century it seems about time!

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You can see the rest of the pics here:  https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/08/25mm-hinchliffe-indian-chariots.html (https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/08/25mm-hinchliffe-indian-chariots.html)

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Then some archers:  https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/08/25mm-hinchliffe-ancient-indian-archers.html (https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/08/25mm-hinchliffe-ancient-indian-archers.html)

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Then some spearmen   https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/09/yet-more-hinchliffe-indian-soldiers.html (https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/09/yet-more-hinchliffe-indian-soldiers.html)

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Then one last batch of archers:  https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/09/the-last-of-indian-archers.html (https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/09/the-last-of-indian-archers.html)

Next up are some slingers and elephants to be followed by the Command chariots, wish me luck!
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: Khusru2 on 11 September 2024, 10:57:53 PM
I bought a couple of incomplete 4 horse chariots, and on one the fourth horse wasn't Hinchcliffe. Anyway, there were no yolks for them and I had to fashion them from wire. It works. I love the chariots though.
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: has.been on 12 September 2024, 06:24:36 AM
Lovely work.
I have always had a soft spot for Hinchcliffe (& Garrison) as they provided most of my early armies,
that was when my pocket money started to stretch towards metal, & away from Airfix Plastic.

At the moment I am picking up figures from eBay for some Hinchcliffe DBA armies. First on my
wants list is New Kingdom Egyptian.

Good luck with your Indians.
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 September 2024, 10:16:31 AM
I bought a couple of incomplete 4 horse chariots, and on one the fourth horse wasn't Hinchcliffe. Anyway, there were no yolks for them and I had to fashion them from wire. It works. I love the chariots though.

Someone egged you on to finish them, right?
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: has.been on 12 September 2024, 10:20:07 AM
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Someone egged you on to finish them, right?/quote]

Well, at least he got cracking on them.  :D
He had to though, as they weren't all 'white' to start with. ;D
Am I over egging this?  lol
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: vodkafan on 12 September 2024, 11:22:32 AM
I usually buy all of the troops that I need for an army either all at once or over a short period of time.

I do exactly the same.  Not sure the method is always good for the mental health!  ;)

Your Indians look great Anton and very colourful.
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: Khusru2 on 12 September 2024, 05:09:00 PM
I finished them around 8 weeks ago. The worst thing, besides the yolks, were the fragile axles. Two broke on one model.
My classical Indians are MiniFigs, the 2 & 4 horse chariots, Hinchcliffe
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: anton ryzbak on 13 September 2024, 12:41:33 AM
has.been    I think that I have a pack or two of Pharaoh's chariot if you would like it. I don't have any other Egyptians so I really don't have any use for it
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 September 2024, 03:06:10 AM
I finished them around 8 weeks ago. The worst thing, besides the yolks, were the fragile axles. Two broke on one model.
My classical Indians are MiniFigs, the 2 & 4 horse chariots, Hinchcliffe

A quotation from Schiller comes to mind.
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: has.been on 13 September 2024, 06:42:56 AM
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has.been    I think that I have a pack or two of Pharaoh's chariot if you would like it. I don't have any other Egyptians so I really don't have any use for it
 

That is very kind.
Where abouts are you?
I am in the UK.
If not other sides of the Pond we could swap some Hinchcliffe figures. I have Pikemen & other figures.
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: anton ryzbak on 14 September 2024, 12:04:07 AM
has.been,  I'm in the States but I would be happy to send them to you on the promise that you will donate the shipping costs to your local Veterans Asssociation. I will never get around to gathering and painting an Egyptian army so they are surplus to me and I have simply thousands of other minis in need of paint so a trade would simply add to the Lead Mountain. If you are interested contact by PM or by email at daftrica 89 at yahoo dot com with "Chariots" in the title
 
After digging through my Mountain of Shame I find that I have three Pharaoh's chariots and four more chariots without horses of crew. You are welcome to the lot.

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Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: anton ryzbak on 17 September 2024, 10:29:12 PM
The minis are on their way, USPS says that it will take two weeks. Take that for what you may, probably closer to three.
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: has.been on 18 September 2024, 07:27:17 AM
Many thanks for your kindness. I shall pass the good deed on.
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: Bloggard on 26 September 2024, 10:44:48 AM
and don't they look fab.

makes me think of 'battle for wargamers' covers.
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: anton ryzbak on 28 September 2024, 04:03:52 AM
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I keep plugging away at the pile, now we see a dozen heavy cavalry

Battle for Wargamers! Now you are dating all of us! These were almost new when that was current, I still have a few copies in my library
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: Bloggard on 29 September 2024, 10:27:41 AM
yes indeed, although having a nostalgic search on it (the magazine) had me reading one blog-post that came as a bit of shock.

not the place for further discussion in this thread tho'.
I 'll try and remember the good about it - like the few covers featuring lovely hinchliffe (and other) figures of the era...

and I love those heavy cav. (def. look like hinchliffe from the horses?).
I know it's the usual 'old age' stuff kicking in, but I'm increasingly drawn to the 'impressionistic' look of the castings from back then, with sympathetic paint-jobs, such as yours.
Think I'd go with gloss varnish!
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....
Post by: anton ryzbak on 30 September 2024, 04:22:50 AM
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Another batch of Indian Heavy Cavalry, nothing special except that it takes another four packs of minis off of the pile.
more here https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/09/oh-look-another-batch-of-hinchliffe.html (https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/09/oh-look-another-batch-of-hinchliffe.html)
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians .....Medium Cavalry at Last
Post by: anton ryzbak on 04 October 2024, 04:59:02 AM
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This week's addition to the WRG Ancient Indian Army. A few more pics here https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/10/getting-close-to-end-at-last-hinchliffe.html (https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/10/getting-close-to-end-at-last-hinchliffe.html)
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians ..Converting from sword to sling
Post by: anton ryzbak on 18 October 2024, 08:16:51 PM
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I needed to add some slingers to my force to complete the list but Hinchliffe never made any (as far as I can tell) so I was forced to convert some redundant two-handed swordsmen to slingers. Not the most artful work, but it kept the force solidly Hinchliffe and filled the gap. More here https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/10/oh-slings-and-erm-ah-more-slingers-of.html (https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/10/oh-slings-and-erm-ah-more-slingers-of.html)
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians ..Converting from sword to sling
Post by: has.been on 18 October 2024, 08:48:10 PM
Creative, well done.
It does remind me of Bob O'Brien's series in Airfix Magazine, 'Romans. Friends & Foes'
It was inspiration to a young me. Nearly all of my first Wargaming armies were from
Airfix. Most from the Robin Hood set, which provided my slingers. The archer reaching
back for his arrow. I once made a Pike phalanx 60 figures strong (the largest you could
make a unit in those days) Top half of Napoleonic French Cuirassier on the bottom half
of a Napoleonic Highlander. Drawing pin pushed in for a shield & piano wire pikes. :)
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians ..Converting from sword to sling
Post by: anton ryzbak on 19 October 2024, 03:30:44 AM
has.been, I remember those articles, I kept stabbing myself with the pins and gave up and started painting just Romans and Brits, much safer (if cowardly)
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians ..Converting from sword to sling
Post by: has.been on 19 October 2024, 07:26:17 AM
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has.been, I remember those articles, I kept stabbing myself with the pins and gave up and started painting just Romans and Brits, much safer (if cowardly)

Not cowardly, but sensible. I was...reckless. To create a unit of Thracians, again using Robin Hood figures, I made Rhomphia by
bending pins into a question mark shape, then hammering the blade section flat. Any sensible person would realise that they would
be (literally) lethal weapons. I cut my fingers so many times I was able to write under the bases in my blood. :o
In my defense I was unsupervised.  ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians ..Converting from sword to sling
Post by: anton ryzbak on 20 October 2024, 06:35:57 AM
has.been,
Memories of childhoods spent without excessive adult supervision! I once grew tired of having to re-arm my Macedonian
pikemen after every game, so I spent a week cutting piano-wire pikes and sharpening them to "encourage " players to respect my troops, Of course two weeks later I provided an example by leaning onto them and acquiring twenty-four neatly spaced holes in my palm, much to the amusement of my buddies, good time indeed!
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians ..Converting from sword to sling
Post by: has.been on 20 October 2024, 09:10:01 AM
ouch! :o
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians ..The last unit of horse
Post by: anton ryzbak on 23 October 2024, 03:20:59 AM
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The very last unit of Indian Horse, all that remains are four heavy chariots.  More pictures here https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/10/closing-in-on-end-last-of-hinchliffe.html (https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2024/10/closing-in-on-end-last-of-hinchliffe.html)
Title: Re: Finishing my Hinchliffe Indians ...Last unit of Indian Horse
Post by: has.been on 23 October 2024, 08:41:13 AM
It would be nice to see, when the Chariots are done, an Army picture.