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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Harry Faversham on September 25, 2024, 09:07:26 AM
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I'm after 28mm a British Gatling and cannon, with the sailor boys in proper hats, not straw boaters. Can anyone give me a few pointers please?
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Perry's Sudan Range
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Perry for Gatlings and Gardners and very good value they are too. £10 for gun and 4 crew.
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I’m now intrigued which NWF expeditions involved naval brigade contingents 🙂
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Thanks for the help chaps, be intrigued no more my dear S, it's a 'wot if' campaign!
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Thanks for the help chaps, be intrigued no more my dear S, it's a 'wot if' campaign!
;D
Ah...some opponents for the Afghans...I wonder if RN blue will blend into the hills quite as well as khaki
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Scruffy looking shower them Afghans!
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Those poor Jack Tars imagine signing up for a life on one of Her majesty's warships, for a life on the Ocean blue, only to find yourself in a landlocked country were the nearest ocean is over 300 miles away 😄
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I acquired a copy of Josiah Harlan's "Central Asia" as part of a inheritance a few years ago. After reading that book I think you can have anything in that part of the world.
It is suspected that Harlan (USA citizen) is the basis of Kippling's "The Man Who Would Be King". Following his exploits, his family are still hereditary aristocrats in Afghanistan. I was so fascinated by the man that I looked into him further. He later raised and commanded a regiment in the ACW and, probably more long lasting, he is the reason there are thousands of wild camels in Arizona (to this day). Honestly, a man who made his eccentric mark on the world.
One last thing. His book (edited by F.E. Ross MA) has a copy of the General Staff "Afghanistan and adjacent borderlands" Map No.2149, edition 1934, issued by the War Office. It's too big for me to scan as a single print but If you want, I can do it as a series of scans you might be able to put together in MS Paint or some such. it's slightly damaged (ripped, not by me) but should still scan okay. If you want me to scan it for you, email me at: olicanaps@gmail.com
P.S. The photograph I have of of him (in book) is something you would want to shelter your children from. He is one big weird MF. James Bond be damned, Sean Connery would be quaking in his boots!
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"thousands of wild camels in Arizona (to this day)". I looked at the posting date of Olicana's statement and I didn't see April 1st so I'm going to insist on some seriously hard evidence to support this statement. Been to Arizona a variety of times and ain't never seen me no camels - nor heard of anyone seeing any there in the last hundred years. :o
And then I need to know if Yorkshiremen have a reputation for telling tall tales! :D
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Depending on the amount of Tetley's Best Bitter we've got swirling around our tiny minds...
we can sometimes, be prone to a slight exaggeration!
::)
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And then I need to know if Yorkshiremen have a reputation for telling tall tales! :D
I've been searching for where I've read this - it was certainly a blog article about Harlan - but now I can't find it. However, on searching wild camels in Arizona it appears I am incorrect (as is lost source) - the last ones were spotted in the 1920s. It's a nice thought though.
Tetley's - perish the thought, ghastly stuff!
EDIT:
I've done some more searching - the camels are no longer free because they are being held in the basement of Comet Ping Pong pizzeria (Washington, DC.) for use in satanic rituals. Something to do with some woman called Hilary, apparently. ;)
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@olicana:
red text for the red hat crowd?
Which leads me to the question, when did the dunce cap change its traditional shape to a baseball cap style?! lol
Now, back to being serious, no worries, Olicana. I did find that there is a town in Arizona that celebrates those camels to this day, apparently a big camel statute in town - so I guess you could count that as a pseudo-sighting. ;)
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Meanwhile back on the Frontier!
Had a bit of a rethink, maybe an Indian mountain gun and Gatling, anyone make them, please?
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Had a bit of a rethink, maybe an Indian mountain gun and Gatling, anyone make them, please?
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Foundry's NW016, Screw Gun and Indian Crew?
Edit: Also this from Artizan Designs: NWF0500 - Mountain Gun and Crew (Indian). 2nd Afghan War. Maybe a bit chunkier than the older(?) Foundry NWF line?
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Wot about a Gatling Gun?
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Afraid all I have are some 25 mm stuff as left overs from the Great Estate Sale that beset us locally earlier this year. Most likely too small for your needs. Either Ral Partha or Minifigs. I figure to -eventually- paint them and sell them. But the extras I'd let go gratis.
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If you mean an Indian Army Gatling, I'm not sure they even had them, and am pretty sure nobody sells them. If you are determined to give them one you'll have to find some crew figures who don't look like they're too obviously manning a cannon (or do some converting) and pair them with one from a British Army or Royal Navy set.
Historically speaking (though I realise that isn't really a concern), I believe any Gatlings used on the NWF would have been crewed by the RA, but I'm certainly not any kind of expert. Somebody such as Mad Guru could probably tell you.
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Just saw this now. Yes, Plynkes is correct Re: Gatling guns on the NWF, they were always crewed by the Royal Artillery. Empress have a RA Gatling in their Zulu War range. The crew are in blue service dress uniforms but can easily be painted khaki. On the Frontier they would generally -- though not always -- be wearing puttees, but for a "What If?" scenario I don't know how important that would be. There are other Gatlings on the market, such as in the Perrys Sudan range, but they have Naval crews. I don't know any example of Naval gun crews or Naval Brigade Infantry serving on the Frontier, though during the Mutiny maybe some got close.
Depending on the specific date of your What If scenario, there is a British Maxim gun and crew in the old Wargames Foundry Boer War range, wearing khaki uniforms and puttees.
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, he is the reason there are thousands of wild camels in Arizona (to this day). Honestly, a man who made his eccentric mark on the world
I can confirm there were camels out west as one appeared on The Life and Times of Grizzly Adams tv show, circa 1975.
Wasn't the reason for bringing camels to the SW U.S. for use in crossing the desert?