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Other Stuff => General Wargames and Hobby Discussion => Topic started by: Mammoth miniatures on September 25, 2024, 10:35:41 AM
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This is my holy grail.
Some years ago (probably about 17 years ago...) I purchased a single 2' x 2' terrain tile from Porthmadog models in wales. It was a vac formed thing - quite tall, sold with holes drilled into the sides and a set of plastic screw connectors to allow it to connect to other tiles.
The shop had a range of these tiles - rivers, trenchlines, hills. But I have NEVER been able to find them again.
AFAIK they weren't an amera product, and I've never seen them anywhere since. Porthmadog models told me they remember them but don't remember who made them and they have long since gone out of production.
Does anyone know who made these, or even know what I'm on about?
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can't help, but intrigued...
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The only vac-formed scenery I remember is Bellona. I still have some of their 6mm rivers in the cupboard. However, I don't know if they ever did anything bigger
I found this thread on tmp (warning, very disturbing image at the top of the page o_o) - http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=499179 which might help (after mind bleach has been applied to get rid of the image)
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The only vac-formed scenery I remember is Bellona. I still have some of their 6mm rivers in the cupboard. However, I don't know if they ever did anything bigger
I found this thread on tmp (warning, very disturbing image at the top of the page o_o) - http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=499179 which might help (after mind bleach has been applied to get rid of the image)
Doesn't look like it was them. although I am curious what the image was that so troubled you, since it seems TMP just shows a random image with every page. Alas, it's lost to the ether.
My suspicion is that they may have been produced locally by a welsh company or by someone with easy access to a large bed vac former and they probably only did a few of each. but I live in hope.
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Doesn't look like it was them. although I am curious what the image was that so troubled you, since it seems TMP just shows a random image with every page. Alas, it's lost to the ether.
I've just about purged it from my mind, but it was a bloke in a mankini waving guns about. It was wrong on every level lol
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I've just about purged it from my mind, but it was a bloke in a mankini waving guns about. It was wrong on every level lol
That is Sean Connery in the movie Zardoz it's been a long running punch line to a joke on TMP though so long running I'm not sure if anyone remembers what the original joke was.
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Does anyone know who made these, or even know what I'm on about?
yes I know what you're on about but can't remember the name, give me five minutes to search for it.
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Right, I had to go through most of my old Harbingers to find the bloody advert, but I believe you're looking for Warscape by Warscape games, at least that's what the ad calls them. I think they also did a spacey set called lunarscape or something like that.
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ZITERDES produced a set of 2x2 terrain tiles. Stood about 2 inches off the table. Came in a variety of flat, river and hill sections. I don't recall drilled holes or a screw system to hold it together. Appears they are out of production also.
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Right, I had to go through most of my old Harbingers to find the bloody advert, but I believe you're looking for Warscape by Warscape games, at least that's what the ad calls them. I think they also did a spacey set called lunarscape or something like that.
Ooo that's a lead I can follow! Tha KS for the research. Do you mind letting me know which issue of harbinger the ad was in?
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Ooo that's a lead I can follow! Tha KS for the research. Do you mind letting me know which issue of harbinger the ad was in?
Issue 5 page 71.
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I saw some of these on FB market place only a few days ago!
At least I’m pretty sure they were the same product.
I was in that model shop, in North Wales a fair few years back, and noticed those vac formings.
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ZITERDES produced a set of 2x2 terrain tiles. Stood about 2 inches off the table. Came in a variety of flat, river and hill sections. I don't recall drilled holes or a screw system to hold it together. Appears they are out of production also.
Ziterdes were clip together
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Amera Plastic Mouldings, maybe?
Think they went out of business, but found some listed at https://www.nobleknight.com/Publisher/Amera-Plastic-Mouldings (https://www.nobleknight.com/Publisher/Amera-Plastic-Mouldings)
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Amera went out of business? :o
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Well, maybe not. Maybe just a dodgy website address that I have....
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Amera went out of business? :o
No. No they did not.
http://www.amera.co.uk/ (http://www.amera.co.uk/)
As for the OP's tiles, I know the exact ones he's talking about, we sold them in the model shop I worked in back in that exact timeframe (I was there 2003-2008) but I cannot for the life of me remember the manufacturer. They were in grey plastic, the screw connectors were white. We had an big 6x6 or 8×8 desert board set up using them in the gaming area, it was glorious.
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Amera website is infected with a virus or malware, my av will not even open it, and just black screen it
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No. No they did not.
http://www.amera.co.uk/ (http://www.amera.co.uk/)
As for the OP's tiles, I know the exact ones he's talking about, we sold them in the model shop I worked in back in that exact timeframe (I was there 2003-2008) but I cannot for the life of me remember the manufacturer. They were in grey plastic, the screw connectors were white. We had an big 6x6 or 8×8 desert board set up using them in the gaming area, it was glorious.
Those sound like the ones!
The ziterdes ones don't match my memory - although they may have changed them over the years so it's possible they made them.
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don't remember them at all, but in the 1970s I got some WWII scenic pieces that were in very thick vac-formed plastic (about 1mm thick?) about 2 feet square, also a castle about 3 feet square (with towers rising to about 8 inches)
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Daft wot you come to regret, innit? Me and our kid bought the Bellona walls in the 60s, ala Charles Grant. We used them up to about 10 years ago, when I flogged 'em to go upmarket. Now I wish I'd have kept and tickled them up.
:'(
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Daft wot you come to regret, innit? Me and our kid bought the Bellona walls in the 60s, ala Charles Grant. We used them up to about 10 years ago, when I flogged 'em to go upmarket. Now I wish I'd have kept and tickled them up.
:'(
Just in the process of "tickling up" my Bellona walls which are the same vintage as yours. I’ve carried them round all that time, through six house moves and only got round to refreshing them now.
Doug
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Sell 'em to me Doug, save yersen a ton of work!!!
;)
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Are there pics anywhere of what these look like? I'm curious to see.
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Charles Grant's 'The Wargame' and 'Battle for Practical Wargamers'!
:-*
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Are there pics anywhere of what these look like? I'm curious to see.
These are mine pre-refresh. Fifty years of wear and tear has had its effect. They were intended for 20mm figures, as I recall but are fine for larger figures.
(https://velodoug.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/img_6296.jpeg)
And here they are in use a couple of years ago.
(https://velodoug.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/c4332279-3fc5-4b31-8f52-b4d18deae66d.jpeg)
Doug
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Okay thanks, looks like something that could be easy enough to make yourself if you can't buy it.
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I was very kindly provided with a picture of the advert from Harbinger issue 5 for the WARSCAPE vac formed terrain tiles and sure enough, that's them! There doesn't seem to be a single other bit of info about them online and the name warscape has been picked up and dropped a dozen times in the last 10 or so years.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZJYnU6H.jpeg)
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Hopefully now you have such an image you can use it to ask around?
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Ah, yeah... I vaguely remember these now.
Never saw more of them than this one picture in Harbringer though...
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Hopefully now you have such an image you can use it to ask around?
I was able to use the wayback machine to have a snoop over the website. Yep, these are exactly what I remember them being - it seems they didn't make a huge range of designs but I am surprised they didn't catch on. The website mentions £500,000 of investment funding to bring their idea to life. At £15.99 a tile in 2004 I can imagine they may not have made their money back.
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There was Geo-Hex, but they weren't vac-formed. At least, I don't think they were. Probably not helpful, sorry.