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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: VonAkers on 23 November 2024, 08:36:14 AM
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Hi Guys
Bit of a left field question .
Need some Imput please.
I am currently doing a Early Carthaginian Army for Sicilian War on Sicily ( Greco Punic War) .400bc aprox
Both sides. I belive at various stages had Sicilian Hill Tribes and or Scicel native Sicilian as allies and enemies .
So in 28mm what figures could you use for such ?
Interested in your thoughts .
Cheers
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I’d use unarmoured javelinmen in Attic helmets. Something like this
(https://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/cdn/shop/products/mp32_large.jpg?v=1571439871)
Or the Apulian javelins from Old Glory (PII-04)
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For my army hill tribes I use Thracian tribesmen. These days the Victrix Un Armoured Greek infantry and add some bearded looked and capes
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Yeah, any Italian/Greco peltast style model should work for them.
I would imagine they were simply javelins men with small shields and open faced helmets. If they wore armor it would be of the simple piece of metal breastplate on leather straps variety. For the type of fighting they most likely engaged in you wanted clear lines of vision, and ease of mobility to scramble around rough terrain. Then some javelins for distance work and simple daggers for up-close in a pinch or finishing a foe.
Most light infantry models should do the job.
I think the real question is, are you going to give your Early Carthaginians any chariots? There is some evidence they were in use in the 1st Sicillian War, but got dropped in subsequent Sicillian efforts?
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Easy E
Got 4 x Agema Chariots already painted ready to go .!!
They are a nice model , but hard to put together. :o :o :o
Nearly finished two units of Libyan Infantry , next one unit of Sacred Band , and then two units of Carthaginian Citizen Levy , and one unit Allied Sicillian Hoplites
For a start . lol lol
Cheers
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sounds excellent.
Looking forward to photos
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Easy E
Got 4 x Agema Chariots already painted ready to go .!!
They are a nice model , but hard to put together. :o :o :o
Nearly finished two units of Libyan Infantry , next one unit of Sacred Band , and then two units of Carthaginian Citizen Levy , and one unit Allied Sicillian Hoplites
For a start . lol lol
Cheers
Very excited to see it all! :-*
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I’ve been pondering the same question on those Sicilian dudes!
I’ve also put an early Carthaginian force together.
For the chariots I used,
Newline Cab and driver.
Victrix elephant crew.
And Wargames Atlantic plastic generic horses!
Plus, being lazy, I paid someone to paint them for me.
These are possibly the most expensive 4 horse chariots I’ve owned.
lol.
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Tim
Mate those look great !!.. its only money right ..???
What are you using for your Sacred Band ??
Let me know
Cheers
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Those chariots thought...... drool.....
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I hadn’t thought about the Sacred Band.
I was more focused on the North African Levy?
I’m think about those Sacred Band now!
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Tim
They look Great , The Libyan Infantry are particularly nice ..... :-* :-* so jealous .. :o :o
What did you use for your Citizen Levy ?? , any pics .??
I have two Carthaginian Armies.
For Punic Wars I have a Huge 15mm force , with matching Romans .
However the new Army is for Early Carthaginians 28mm , cause I have EPIC amounts of Hoplites in 28mm to use with Battles in Africa and Sicily .
Cheers
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I was going to use the unarmoured Carthaginian set from Victrix?
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The Agema Metal Sacred band figures are great but set of 6 with 2 repeats of 3 unique sculpts only...
And 3 nice Sacred Band Command figures.
https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/carthaginians
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For Sacred Band,
I was thinking Victrix Hypaspists with Punic heads/helmets?
It keeps the figures proportionate with my Libyan phalanx.
Although I’ve always been a big fan of Crusader Miniatures.
They do a rather nice heavily armoured figure that is also suitable.
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For Sacred Band,
I was thinking Victrix Hypaspists with Punic heads/helmets?
That would work maybe mixed in with heavy/well equipped hoplites.
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The Agema Metal Sacred band figures are great but set of 6 with 2 repeats of 3 unique sculpts only...
And 3 nice Sacred Band Command figures.
https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/carthaginians
The two on the right look like head swaps would be relatively simple but would they have had long sleeves?
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Tim
For Sacred Band there are few Viable options.
I had not thought about the Macedonian Hypaspists , good thinking , and they may work at a push .
However they are not equipped in Metal armour , raher Linothorax , which is not what you want .
How many figures are you after ???
I may have a left field option .
Let me know
Cheers
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Cheers,
I’ll probably go with a small phalanx of 18.
Yes, metal armour may look better, hence the idea of the Crusader models.
There are metal armoured Victrix hoplites, but not a full set.
So that could get expensive.
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The two on the right look like head swaps would be relatively simple but would they have had long sleeves?
Apparently there was Hellenistic influence leading to some representations showing short sleeves, but I like the long sleeved look just to differentiate them from Greeks. (Not the hardest of conversions to add the sleeves I suppose...)
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Just put an Early Carthaginian Army on the table late this year and used a lot of Aventine Successor figures for the Carthaginians. Along with bits from Foundry for the chariots and Numidians.
Sacred Band suggestion would be a pack called Suc09 with Carthie heads. Have added a few photos and will see if I have more to hand later. I also used Aventine light foot for various skirmishers and their Italian Hill Tribes for Campanians.
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Ben
Mate they look really Good , much better then mine lol lol , I shall use soem Aventine in my Sacred Band as well.
Cheers
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Thank you. Keith at Aventine is really helpful and should be able to provide you with Carthaginian heads if you ask. I quite like having all the same pose to rank up on the base but variation in the heads. Worst case hit me up as I am pretty sure I have leftover carthie heads......