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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: v_lazy_dragon on 01 January 2025, 01:54:58 AM
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I noticed that Mars have a set of TYW Imperialists with some sort of swivel gun armed cart "war wagon" - not an expert on the TYW by any means, but never heard of anything like this!
Is it a fantasy? Do I need to read/ google better and/or more?
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Mars usually have rather poor historical research, so I wouldn't be bothered too much with this. Probably someone there read that both sides set up their tabor in wagenburg at Wimpfen in 1622 and jump to some odd conclusions :)
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The idea of a war wagon being used in central/Eastern Europe at this time is fairly plausible, though the golden age of this kind of warfare had certainly passed… the idea of a swivel gun is one that I’ve never encountered though, and one that I’m edging towards dismissing as a fantasy.
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Not necessarily an authoritative source, but Sandroman on youtube did an interesting look at the subject. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuLwvFdbFs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuLwvFdbFs)
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Georg Friedrich, Margrave of Baden-Durlach, notably made use of "pike wagons" at the Battle of Wimpfen. According to Daniel Staberg, his fleet of some 70 war wagons that were incorporated in his army were inspired by those which Johann von Nassau-Siegen had deployed against Poles in Livonia. However, while his predecessor had only armed his wagons with wall-guns, the Margrave went as far as mounting his own with "böller," or cannons desinged specifically to fire canister shot.
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https://www.leo-bw.de/themenmodul/dreissigjaehriger-krieg/militar/schlacht-bei-wimpfen