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Title: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Codsticker on January 13, 2025, 04:12:22 PM
Maybe... possibly a 17thC coach house instead.

 As I have a simultaneous project running that has to be done slightly before the BSC deadline this will be tight!
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: has.been on January 13, 2025, 05:56:37 PM
Good luck with the tight deadlines.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Lost Egg on January 14, 2025, 07:14:41 AM
Sounds like you're a glutton for punishment   :o
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: AKULA on January 16, 2025, 07:11:28 PM
Nothing like multiple projects to focus your mind  :)
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Codsticker on January 23, 2025, 10:15:21 PM
I have had plans for a while now to build a piece of waterfront of a far eastern seaport for Pulp Alley, inspired by photos of Macau pre-WW2. Fortunately there many photos online available to reference:

(https://cdn20.pamono.com/p/g/7/6/760848_y18qvfk39g/view-of-the-ancient-port-of-singapore-vintage-photo-1930s-1930s-1.jpg)

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh5PBUIx6zHkaV8RSXQFZKwmrkYSzNovK_Y5kfXsgkxMuzVomuCID63o8kOEoAQukpJCAvor85B5OpeJVIkJqWYddT3SLENWs3iUqLZkmY26pXHdd57__SSDf8ZoWbSmxPpxxnf1_ySPK4j/s1600/pi.jpg)

As sampans are relatively easy to find, I am going to build a decent sized Junk as the kick-off for this project. Something along these lines:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Guangzhou%2C_Chinese_Boats_by_Lai_Afong%2C_c%D0%B0_1880.jpg/310px-Guangzhou%2C_Chinese_Boats_by_Lai_Afong%2C_c%D0%B0_1880.jpg)

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/480xn/p037pttn.jpg.webp)

This being my current favourite, even though it doesn't have a sail:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/2878/34174371546_686a646ac1_b.jpg)

I will probably use XPS foam as the base and then clad it in Foamex, sheet styrene and/or balsa wood.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Gunbird on January 24, 2025, 11:14:50 AM
Looking forward to this build, as I have need for one of these in 15mm as well. Eventually.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: McMordain on January 26, 2025, 05:40:30 PM
Nice, I looking forward to this. I always liked the silhouette of the Junk.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Wirelizard on January 26, 2025, 09:00:39 PM
Looking forward to seeing your junk!

Wait, that didn't sound right...
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Codsticker on January 27, 2025, 04:27:44 PM
Looking forward to seeing your junk!

Wait, that didn't sound right...
You flirt! ;D
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Daeothar on January 31, 2025, 09:44:10 AM
For a second I was wondering how you would be modeling a website like Temu or AliExpress, but it all makes sense now...
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Burgundavia on January 31, 2025, 08:13:39 PM
For a second I was wondering how you would be modeling a website like Temu or AliExpress, but it all makes sense now...

Conveyance does have a wide variety of meanings. I wondered if anybody would do a law firm
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Wirelizard on January 31, 2025, 08:31:34 PM
Conveyance does have a wide variety of meanings. I wondered if anybody would do a law firm

Dewey, Eat-em, and Howe, Trolltorneys-at-Law (it's a troll lair but they cosplay as lawyers. pity they eat three clients in four and every judge they've ever been summoned by...)

 lol
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Codsticker on February 11, 2025, 05:25:25 AM
What are we... ten days into this affair and I have finally got something to post. ::)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/11089-110225051057.jpeg)

I actually got the foam foundation cut and glued together last weekend- and then it sat.... After much contemplation on how I was going to go from there, I finally started cutting sheet styrene and gluing on the hull planking. I think once I get going this and the decking will go pretty quickly.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/11089-110225051140.jpeg)

Junks look to have a fairly slanted deck (some of them anyway) but model for war gaming with a slanted deck could pose problems for models staying up right so I am using the hull planking to give the illusion that the deck slants when viewed from the side.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Lost Egg on February 11, 2025, 06:45:25 AM
Looks like a pretty solid start sir. I do like a boat so eager to see more.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: anevilgiraffe on February 11, 2025, 08:55:59 AM
what glue did you use for the plasticard against the foam?
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: snitcythedog on February 11, 2025, 09:01:55 AM
VERY nice work so far.   :o
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: aircav on February 11, 2025, 07:54:42 PM
That’s a cracking start 8)
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Ragnar on February 12, 2025, 06:15:53 AM
Excellent start.

How did you get the plasticard to curve so neatly?
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: tomrommel1 on February 12, 2025, 06:38:31 AM
very nice start
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Spinal Tap on February 13, 2025, 05:34:46 PM
Very tidy plasticard work.

I'm impressed.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Wirelizard on February 13, 2025, 07:24:11 PM
Also joining the "that looks like an awesome start, how did you get the plastic to adhere to the foam?" chorus.

So many glues don't work on foam, and curved plastic card under tension can be hard enough to make behave with full-on solvent cements and other things that aren't an option anywhere near insulation foam!
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Codsticker on February 14, 2025, 04:20:30 PM
I don't have a any real magic for getting the sheet styrene to bend. I had an old bottle of Gorilla Glue that was starting to thicken; I mixed that with a bit of water until it starts to go opaque, and then smeared it on one of the surfaces. In that state, it grabs very quickly and I just held it in place with my hands for about 5 minutes until it really started to set. You can't see it in the photos, but it did start to pull away a bit along the deck; that is not a big deal as the gap is going to get covered with decking.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Codsticker on March 02, 2025, 09:56:46 PM
Progress is slooow.... scribing, cutting and gluing the planking and decking is a bit tedious here as I should have had a better plan when I started but alas.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/11089-020325215222.jpeg)

The decking is scribed, 1mm foamed PVC (foamex) from Greenstuff World.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/11089-020325215324.jpeg)

Now I am adding the inner planking; after that, the cabin, mast and sail should be pretty quick.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: snitcythedog on March 02, 2025, 10:41:09 PM
Just wow!! :o
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on March 03, 2025, 07:14:00 AM
That is looking very good so far  ;)
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: syrinx0 on March 06, 2025, 04:31:27 AM
Looks great.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: tomrommel1 on March 06, 2025, 06:30:08 AM
very nice, indeed
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: has.been on March 06, 2025, 09:36:59 AM
Coming along fine.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Codsticker on March 17, 2025, 04:45:16 AM
My Junk is looking less and less junk like  :-[:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/11089-170325043822.jpeg)

However, I think by adding a sampan style roof I think I can make it less like a run of the mill boat and more far eastern.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/11089-170325043933.jpeg)

The sails of Junks are practically a defining feature, but the sail will be furled on this model as it will be docked for the table I am envisaging the Junk to be used on.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Lost Egg on March 17, 2025, 08:01:28 AM
I think you're right about the roof. She's looking good too.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Daeothar on March 17, 2025, 10:20:41 AM
There's a reason ship hulls all have the same(ish) shape; over the course of history, we've found out that that's generally the most efficient shape.

It's only natural that your junk looks like a generic boat/ship at this point. Once the superstructure takes shape, the junkiness will come back for sure.

One thing I noticed is that there is a difference in the height of the stern between your build and the picture of your favourite junk; yours is a lot flatter/even/horizontal right now. Perhaps raising the stern significantly will help in getting the shape you're after?

The ship does look really good btw...  :)
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Codsticker on March 17, 2025, 03:43:25 PM
One thing I noticed is that there is a difference in the height of the stern between your build and the picture of your favourite junk; yours is a lot flatter/even/horizontal right now. Perhaps raising the stern significantly will help in getting the shape you're after?
I did think of that. Traditionally, large Junks had big overhanging transoms, and tall sterns; some with a very sloping decks like my favourite. I flattened it for game play (I don't plan on including accurate rigging for the same reason) and as my target period for these games is the 1930's to '50's, this boat shows the influence of western ship building that started in the 1700's. The sail design is really what seems to be a defining feature of Junks of the last 100 years as the hulls have become increasingly western in design.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: snitcythedog on March 17, 2025, 10:15:52 PM
I am pretty sure that once you build the roof it will look more like junk.  Sorry, a junk.   lol  Again, very well done.  This competition is always tough, but this year it is going to be tight. 
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Codsticker on March 24, 2025, 08:52:41 PM
I am pretty sure that once you build the roof it will look more like junk.  Sorry, a junk. 

You were right - it definitely looks a bit more far eastern with that roof.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/11089-240325204636.jpeg)

The mast is done and the boom with furled sail is almost finished.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/11089-240325204716.jpeg)

I just have to add a few more details to the hull and then she is ready for primer I think.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/11089-240325204813.jpeg)
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: snitcythedog on March 24, 2025, 11:20:02 PM
VERY nice work!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Dr Mathias on April 05, 2025, 09:49:19 PM
Impressive!
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Codsticker on April 05, 2025, 10:32:44 PM
Thank you for the compliments boys. Though, I do feel like there is much better builds than this one in this competition.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: snitcythedog on April 05, 2025, 11:22:36 PM
Thank you for the compliments boys. Though, I do feel like there is much better builds than this one in this competition.
You must be Kidding.  I am waiting to see how yours turned out. 
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: Spinal Tap on April 05, 2025, 11:46:38 PM
You must be Kidding.  I am waiting to see how yours turned out.

In total agreement with snitcythedog, this build is awesome.
Title: Re: BSC2025 Some of Codsticker's Chinese Junk
Post by: marianas_gamer on April 06, 2025, 12:56:28 AM
This is excellent work Codsticker  :-* :-* :-*