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Title: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Dean on 03 February 2025, 12:18:29 PM
The pre-order is now live from Grey for Now games - https://greyfornow.com/collections/guards-of-traitors-toll

You can also find there a free PDF overview of the game.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 03 February 2025, 09:10:31 PM
Cool.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Elbows on 04 February 2025, 01:34:36 AM
While I'm not terribly interested in the game, I'm definitely going to snag the plastics.  Great minis for so many games.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: tjgreenway on 04 February 2025, 12:30:56 PM
Will the rulebook and cards etc be available separately at some point? Definitely interested in the game, but I already have a bunch of old school figures that will work perfectly.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Dean on 04 February 2025, 12:42:18 PM
Yes indeed, as with the other Grey for Now games, you can expect those options when the product starts selling normally, Graham said so on Facebook yesterday, but I get people not using Facebook hence figured I'd post something here as well.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Battle Brush Sigur on 04 February 2025, 02:37:41 PM
Ordered. I had sworn off getting new fantasy skirmish rules, but passive peer pressure and a flu-weakened state wore me down. ;) No, really good to see that gaming coming along; looking forward to it!
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Dean on 04 February 2025, 02:56:41 PM
I hope you like it, it's such a different feel to the traditional "put two sides on a table and have a fight", it plays great as a solo or PvP.  Trying not to oversell as I'm kind of biased at this point given I put so much work in I ended up with a name check, but will be really interested in how you feel about it when you get the PDF, hopefull later this month.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: gibby64 on 04 February 2025, 08:43:01 PM
Backed this to the FULL extent... love everything about it.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: khrab on 08 February 2025, 10:55:24 PM
@Dean,
Upon reading the PDF overview, I'm still pondering whether the game is for me or not.
How would you characterize its gameplay: is it more of a tactical game, where player decisions will matter the most toward victory, or more of an emergent narrative game, where luck will play an important part?
Between plot cards draw, randomized activation, unpredictable NPCs and objectives, and randomized movement restrictions, it seems the latter would be a more faithful depiction of the game, but I'd love to hear your take on this and how the gameplay actually feels.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 09 February 2025, 10:42:45 AM
Interesting idea, now trying to decide whether to order the figures from North Star, or wait until Salute and buy the game (and no, I am not - currently  -going to do both, I am not suffering from the 'flu).
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Dean on 09 February 2025, 03:39:21 PM
@Dean,
Upon reading the PDF overview, I'm still pondering whether the game is for me or not.
How would you characterize its gameplay: is it more of a tactical game, where player decisions will matter the most toward victory, or more of an emergent narrative game, where luck will play an important part?
Between plot cards draw, randomized activation, unpredictable NPCs and objectives, and randomized movement restrictions, it seems the latter would be a more faithful depiction of the game, but I'd love to hear your take on this and how the gameplay actually feels.

Thanks!


Great question mate.  Bearing in mind that I have been playing it solo, and multiplayer is a little more competitive (player at the end with the most gold, offset by the amount of ‘discontent’ gained wins), I would say its all about the tactics.  The plot cards are just to keep the games different each time, the activations play into your tactics, and even the luck from the special dice just make you need to think more tactically.  The linked missions do have a narrative, but it is all built in, nothing you need to do for yourself until (and if) you want to create your own missions.

I personally like being in control of the ‘suspects’ and play them ‘realistically’ rather than just moving them in the best way to help me ‘win’, but you can play either way.  I’ve played all the missions and they all have a different feel, and by linking them and playing the same squad throughout you get a very nice campaign style.  So all in all there’s a lot of gameplay to be had.

Again though, bear in mind I am not an unbiased judge on this one.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Rabbitz on 09 February 2025, 09:45:13 PM
How long will pre-orders be going for?   I’m looking to jump on board, but moving house at the beginning of March.   
I am pretty sure that they won’t ship out before then, but I’ve been wrong before… more than once.  :)
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Elbows on 10 February 2025, 04:21:37 PM
Ship it to a mate's house!

I have been shipping Kickstarters to my folks house for as long as I've been buying KS.  They're retired and not moving...and we know how bad KS can be delayed, so I gave up trying to worry about where I was living.  lol  Gives me an excuse to swing by and see them, right?
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Dean on 10 February 2025, 07:37:58 PM
It’s not really a kickstarter and as you know Wargames Atlantic have already made the figures.  Expected to start shipping by the end of March, not early March.  Pre-orders include the PDF version of the rulebook being sent to you in February.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Dean on 05 March 2025, 02:04:56 PM
PDF of rulebook now available.

https://greyfornow.com/collections/guards-of-traitors-toll-digital-rulebooks

It is free if you pre-order the physical game (you will be emailed a discount code).

Full game should start shipping around the end of March.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: Burgundavia on 07 March 2025, 05:10:20 AM
PDF of rulebook now available.

https://greyfornow.com/collections/guards-of-traitors-toll-digital-rulebooks

It is free if you pre-order the physical game (you will be emailed a discount code).

Full game should start shipping around the end of March.

Picked it up, but as I mentioned in the other thread - why is the rulebook for sale when you can't actually play the game with it? You still need the cards for plots, characters, etc, which aren't available in digital format and have apparently have no timeframe to do so. Left me with a bad taste in my mouth, given I had just paid for what were basically useless rules.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: ChaosChild on 07 March 2025, 02:53:05 PM
Picked it up, but as I mentioned in the other thread - why is the rulebook for sale when you can't actually play the game with it? You still need the cards for plots, characters, etc, which aren't available in digital format and have apparently have no timeframe to do so. Left me with a bad taste in my mouth, given I had just paid for what were basically useless rules.
Test of Honour has the same issue, the rulebook is basically useless without the custom dice, tokens and character cards. GoTT seems to be worse, as you've got the plot cards as well.
Title: Re: [Commercial] Guards of Traitor's Toll
Post by: SteveBurt on 12 March 2025, 03:33:45 PM
The PDF rulebook is free if you pre-order the starter set, which contains everything you need to play. It?s been released early so you can read the rules before the starter set arrives so you can get up to speed quicker.
I?m not sure why you thought that a game that has not yet been released was going to be playable yet, especially as it says this on the website:
Please note: the rulebook on its own is not sufficient to play the game. You will also need gaming cards, dice, tokens, model warriors and terrain.
Did you not read that bit?