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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: HerbertTarkel on February 17, 2025, 11:31:11 PM
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Found this shrink-wrapped 30th anniversary reprint of Rogue Trader today at my local-ish shop. Wasn’t cheap, wasn’t too expensive; I owned the whole set of the RT books back in the day.
Now, to open the shrink wrap, or not? I’m probably going to!
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You absolutely should. It's a cool book with all sorts of useful (and cool) things in there. 8)
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Get the wrap off it and see if its anything like you remember.
That and its fun to play with your toys.
Do it, otherwise why get it ?
Feed your nostalgia.
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Wow what a find AND YOU REMOVED THE SKRINK WRAP!!!???!!!
really have fun...
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Take the shrinkwrap off, it isn't a first printing in that condition after all, just a reprint. Now if it had been an original first printing still in it's shrinkwrap, then I'd suggest leaving it that way, but it's not. It's cool, it's great but it's a reprint - take the shrinkwrap off and enjoy it for what it is!
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Heck yeah, that shrink wrap is gone. It’s not a first print, as others have pointed out; and it’s all I remember, and more! Love the nostalgia of this. So many good memories!
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Plastic wrap on magazines and books was meant for a reason. You maybe excited but unless you are positively tumescent about your purchase and suffer from a hair trigger, it's probably safe to remove the wrapping. ;)
I delight in binning the 'collectible' packaging on vintage kits and diecast toys on the principle that 'it's a model, it was meant to be built/ it's a toy, it was meant to be played with. Now I have a number of first edition books, some quite valuable but none of them are covered in plastic wrap.
I always though Rogue Trader was a sly reference to BTD but presumably it predates them. :D
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Of course there is an alternative view. A couple of exes of mine had Italian parents, of the 'Garage Italian' variety. With that particular variety the kitchen is set up and entertaining is all done in the garage. The house was only visited for sleeping purposes, family life revolves around the garage cum kitchen-living area.
The parents did have a living area within the house but as it was almost never used. The furniture, purchased new in 1970 something, was still in its plastic, preserved as if in amber from an earlier age. No dust, food or human contact had sullied it in several decades. The one notable item not so preserved was the obligatory tapestry of John F Kennedy in the hallway, which my GF purloined and it adorned our pad in all its kitsch glory.
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That’s too funny, Carlos!
I too actually take pleasure in “ruining the collectable” nature of things by opening them. I once gave a friend’s son an insanely high-value Darth Vader Kenner toy, on card, and laughed insanely as the 7 year old ripped it open - he was a Vader fan. Somewhere some collector cried … lol
The furniture! My grandparents on one side - who were Italian - had that same plastic covering o_o
Too funny.
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Alas, the progeny, the second and third generations of migrant have given up much of their heritage. The bespoke, family owned and once famous three store Italian furniture chain that served their parents with the baroque, ivory and gold, bemirrored, beds with the built in clock radios has pretty much gone. For a while the Arabic community sustained that particular taste in furniture but it's down to one shop in much reduced circumstances. The children shop in Ikea or some other big brand chain.
The rows of factories that surrounded my former paramours' parents homes and sustained their households have gone. The rag trade is dead, the car manufacturing industry is dead, pretty much all manufacturing is dead. Shiny new townhouses have replaced them. The houses and workers cottages whose gardens were either concreted wall to wall out front or had every bit of available space, front and back turned over to vegetable production are mostly gone. The palazzo con terazzo type affairs with the stone lions by the doors and the permanently closed steel shuttering on the windows are few and far between these days.
The inner northern suburbs have gentrified, the little coffee shops where their grandfathers would escape to, away from nonna and the kids to drink coffee and grappa and play scopa all day have been bought out by fucking hipsters and turned into ghastly bars or cafes where idiots these days seem to believe that the internationally renowned Australian (read Melburnian) coffee culture originated. ::)
The world changes, life moves on but on those rare occasions when nostalgia moves me, it's things like the absence of nosiy mass participation bottling of the family sugo and taking the piss out of Roberto Baggio's footballing prowess that comes to me. The past is a foreign country as it were but there's probably no point shrink wrapping it.
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In the words of Arnie, "Do it!, Do It now!" lol
Carlos, here in the UK its even worse, as the first industrial nation and now the first post industrial nation, all I can say is it sucks :'(
However, you put it much more eloquently than I :D
I`d call it melancholy Carlos :(
Glen
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Opened and enjoyed …
Feels so much better than sitting on a shelf somewhere. lol
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Ooh shiny! Much brighter than the two original falling apart copies that I have.
Enjoy :D
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Ooh shiny! Much brighter than the two original falling apart copies that I have.
Enjoy :D
It’s so much fun to go through; and it smells like a new book - not like 40 years of smoked in gamer rooms lol
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It’s so much fun to go through; and it smells like a new book - not like 40 years of smoked in gamer rooms lol
I hear ya! :D lol
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Say what you will about GW (I always start like that when I have something nice to say about GW :D ) - those reprints are hella cool.
1.) they smash silly prices to bits.
2.) they're really well made. I got an original RT rulebook in good shape, but it still irks me I never got my hands on The Lost and the Damned so far.
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Say what you will about GW (I always start like that when I have something nice to say about GW :D ) - those reprints are hella cool.
1.) they smash silly prices to bits.
2.) they're really well made. I got an original RT rulebook in good shape, but it still irks me I never got my hands on The Lost and the Damned so far.
Agreed! I would love to see reprints of the entire RT era book series. I did have Lost and the Damned :D
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Many, many years ago I came across an original, first printing, Slaves to Darkness and The Lost and the Damned in an out of the way bookshop near where I lived. Me, who knew an absolute steal when he saw it but was getting out of 40k, I sold both of them as a set on ebay - somebody got an early Christmas and I made a tidy profit. I never was much of a Chaos fan.
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I've got an old original hardback version I dread to leaf through, because all of the pages will come loose when the book is fully opened. I've managed to keep the damage down to a page or 5, but it's most definitely a shelf warmer more than anything, for fear of damaging it even further.
The re-issue is not an actual reprint, but a printing of digital scans of the pages. The oversaturated colours are testament to that. That's why I never got that version, but knowing that the binding is of a much higher quality, so the book can actually be read makes me wonder if I'm not missing out after all...
At any rate: these books are there to be enjoyed and read. Fun fact: the binding on all later books, like the Book Of The Astronomicon, The Lost And The Damned or Freebooterz are of a significant higher quality and can still be read like a proper tome today.
I'm only missing Waagh! The Orks myself by the way, to complete my RT book collection...
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You can tell it’s a scan, you’re not wrong; that said - I get to flip the pages without having to pick any off the floor lol
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That's the thing - yup, it doesn't look quite right, it's too saturated, but all the words are in the right places, and I think that's the main thing. A redo will never be as nice as the original, but as a faithful reprint they're good.
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That's the thing - yup, it doesn't look quite right, it's too saturated, but all the words are in the right places, and I think that's the main thing. A redo will never be as nice as the original, but as a faithful reprint they're good.
The paper quality is high, in my opinion (it’s a China reprint, some of the stuff out of there can be weird); there are nice thicker cardstock - almost - pages at the back for the blue take out pages (I won’t do that!). But yes, the photos and colour are off enough that it’s noticeable. Some of the text is a bit fuzzy, but overall, I am thrilled to have even this reprint.
Now to re-hunt down all the other books … o_o
(I did grab a 2nd edition Eldar codex too, off the web - it smells like 1000 years of gaming smoke filled rooms, and actually had some ashes between some of the pages :-X - I’ll be looking for a nicer copy…)
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I'm only missing Waagh! The Orks myself by the way, to complete my RT book collection...
As an owner of a copy of this, I can tell you that the pages definitely come out of this one - in fact I think that they came loose inside the cover?
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Nostalgia.........not as good as it used to be!
I'll get my coat.....
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Nostalgia.........not as good as it used to be!
I'll get my coat.....
lol
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I scored a surprise deal on evil bay tonight on Waaargh Da Orks - LESS than what I paid for my RT reprint; book looks tight and clean.
THIS BOOK WAS A DRIVE-THRU RPG COUNTERFEIT! I got refunded.
Currently have the others on my list …
The toughest one to find, in my opinion, is a clean copy of the Book of the Astronomican. I had an ok one; I have my eye on one “ok” one. But I think it’s too much for the condition. :?
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And my second score of the night …
Ere we Go - PRISTINE copy! Was it cheap? No. Is it worth it? Yep!
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Three retro awesome books in one night!
Freebooterz added. I think I’m broke, now lol
THIS BOOK WAS ALSO A DRIVE-THRU RPG COUNTERFEIT! I got refunded.
And reported both to GW Legal.
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Add one more. Not perfect, but a decent copy.
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Welcome to the club of people collecting useless, overpriced but oh so fun OOP rulebooks :D
That was a great night, no doubt!
Like I said; My collection is lacking but one book; Waaagh! The Orks, all the rest, including the also hard to find Vehicle Manual (complete with templates), are sitting nice and proud on their shelf, ready for the occasional leaf through...
Here's the lot a couple of years ago. There's been some more shuffling and additions since then...
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Oooh! That’s what my shelf USED to look like…
Well, I’m on my way now … lol
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Coincidentally, I came across a seller on Ebay selling a copy of Waaargh! Orks (because now I have to start looking again of course ::) ). And it went for decidedly less than the other offerings on there. I could not find anything wrong with it, but in the description it said it was a reprint. And then it dawned on me that the book was an actual hardcover, and not a cover without binding. Because I think the original only ever came like that; a cover with loose pages (which were supposed to go into a binder I guess).
Did you ever come across something like that?
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Coincidentally, I came across a seller on Ebay selling a copy of Waaargh! Orks (because now I have to start looking again of course ::) ). And it went for decidedly less than the other offerings on there. I could not find anything wrong with it, but in the description it said it was a reprint. And then it dawned on me that the book was an actual hardcover, and not a cover without binding. Because I think the original only ever came like that; a cover with loose pages (which were supposed to go into a binder I guess).
Did you ever come across something like that?
Son of a … that’s the one I bought. I WONDERED why it was so cheap. I might have to cancel now. I feel … scammed. He did the same with Freebooterz!
“Too good to be true” >:(
I have also sent an email to GW Legal as this is clearly counterfeiting.
Big thanks for pointing it out!
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Oh bother... :?
The only thing triggering me was the fact that it is a bound book. When scrolling down (lots) I came across this info, which put me off, as I would really like to have the original product, especially considering this is all about collecting for me, as opposed to wanting to play those rules.
The other thing not to my liking is his incredible leadtime. Which, thinking about it, is probably due to him first having to commission another printing... ::)
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100%!
I didn’t read the description, which is on me; and now that I read his feedback - all he sells is reprints! Which is why indeed his lead time is so long.
Grrrr. Well, I am expecting a full refund as it’s been overnight.
Again, thanks for the heads up!!!
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Cheers, I hope it works out :)
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Dude refunded me.
Hope GW legal cares enough to do something to him, too.
All his listings are counterfeit reprints! The old TSR ones stand out to me more obviously.
At least I got my money back.
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I got lucky year or two before the pandemic sourcing a lot of those old rogue trader sourcebooks looking at Oxfam online, good quality and a bargain price. Doesn't pop up with google searches but if after something specific worth a check.
Managed to get all 3 of the old Ork books.
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I got lucky year or two before the pandemic sourcing a lot of those old rogue trader sourcebooks looking at Oxfam online, good quality and a bargain price. Doesn't pop up with google searches but if after something specific worth a check.
Managed to get all 3 of the old Ork books.
That’s a heck of a score! I’ll definitely check it out - next month … I’ve spent far too much in a week :D
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'Ere We Go and Freebooterz were the 3rd and 4th greatest WH40K books GW ever printed. They are on the list of books I wish I hadn't lost.
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Might be worth contacting Drivethrurpg and let them know that an ebay seller is passing off counterfeit copies using their name to imply it's legit. Also pass all of this onto Ebay itself - I've no problem with buying actual legal reprints of oop books but this is just a complete scam.
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Might be worth contacting Drivethrurpg and let them know that an ebay seller is passing off counterfeit copies using their name to imply it's legit. Also pass all of this onto Ebay itself - I've no problem with buying actual legal reprints of oop books but this is just a complete scam.
I contacted GW legal, and that seller no longer has ANY GW products in their scam shop. They do have other stuff though. It’s just such a scam, I agree.
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Smell great AND make a speeder!
The classic article from Rick Priestley.
Received my 1989 Compendium today. Beautiful condition.
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Ah yes; my bible when I was starting my grav-attack tanks :D
Nice addition again :)
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Yep - the 'plastic spoon turret' idea keeps resurfacing as a useful technique again and again - I've used plastic spoons as turrets, car canopies, sensor blisters and many other things - so useful.
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A PRISTINE copy of Ere We Go, and an acceptable one of The Book of the Astronomican!
That’s my spending budget on nostalgia for a while … lol
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Nice! :-*
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Excellent! 8)
The Ere We Go book looks indeed immaculate :)
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Excellent! 8)
The Ere We Go book looks indeed immaculate :)
Thanks! Yes, stunningly immaculate, cardstock pages inside intact. One tiny bump to top of spine, barely noticeable. A real treasure find!
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great find, I stupidly back in the day cut the cardstock out of mine, but I do at least have the freeboterz one. my book of the astronomicon fell apart years ago :-(
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great find, I stupidly back in the day cut the cardstock out of mine, but I do at least have the freeboterz one. my book of the astronomicon fell apart years ago :-(
Freebooterz and Waaargh are next on the list?
Slaves to Darkness after that!
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My copy of Waargh also fell apart, got my original slaves to darkness, never managed to get the Nurgle and Tzeentch one. Have got Warhammer Siege still. Loved the game in that era.