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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Maceface on March 29, 2025, 02:44:48 AM
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Hi Lead 'eads, over the last few years I've been dreaming up a Cyberpunk / Dystopia / 80s-2000s / Dark Future setting, with a model range in 20mm*.
Designed to be Compatible with Gaslands, Dark Future, RPGs (the 20mm* size is pretty nice for gridded maps and loads of civilians...)
Here are the first two test models I made, but many more are in the wings to be shown off soon :-)
Will aim to cover Police, Thugs, Mercs, Scavengers, Civilians, Cyberpunk Runners, Raiders and many more...
Let me know if this is something of interest!
*20mm is aprox 23-24mm to top of head usually, maybe absolutely max 25mm, also known as 1/72
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Those look really good! Gaslands is the only game I have that they would fit with, but I will probably figure out some way to shoehorn them into my collection when they are released. I?m looking forward to seeing more figures in this line!
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Cheers! I'll be aiming to eventually write some rules, or fit to the usual ospreys, necromunda, reality edge etc.
Cyberpunk at 20mm would work really well since the terrain isn't as gigantic, and you can get multibased civilians walking around!
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They look nice, but very much not my scale. I do know someone who prefers it though. so I'll pass this along.
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These are nice! Not necessarily my genre or scale, but they look very good!
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Yes please!
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They are beautiful and presumably a big upside is they are basically compatible with Matchbox scale cars etc?
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They are beautiful and presumably a big upside is they are basically compatible with Matchbox scale cars etc?
Hence the specific callout for both Gaslands and Dark Future.
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Those are really nice, great paint job too.
Do you have anything similar in mind for 28mm?
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Those are really nice, great paint job to.
Do you have anything similar in mind for 28mm?
Thankyou!
I really want to explore the 20mm scale to tie in with the hotwheels, matchbox cars, and smaller footprint buildings, but you never know, I may resculpt the best ideas in 28mm.
Role-playing guys should really have a look at 20mm, as the space needed for throwaway minis is far less too. Cyberpunk warehouse skirmishes become quite doable on an A3 piece of paper etc.
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I?m 100% in for this. A Post Apoc setting (set in an alternate 1998) using the Dark Future and Gaslands models is my largest hobby project. Heck, see my profile pic. I?ve been playing Gaslands with em, using home brewed rules for models on foot but am about to start playing Xenos Rampant. This scale is perfect for using with toy cars so these two games are a great fit.
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=129236.0
I?ve got all the Gaslands figs, have collected most of the Dark Future ones, and have supplemented the project with Elheim and red box 1/72 stalkers, zombies and survivors. Here?s a preview of some of the models in the gangs of my collection.
https://wyrdstonesandtacklezones.com/2024/01/09/gaslands-gangs-on-parade/
I?d love to add these figs to my collection just let me know when they become available!
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Thankyou!
I really want to explore the 20mm scale to tie in with the hotwheels, matchbox cars, and smaller footprint buildings, but you never know, I may resculpt the best ideas in 28mm.
Role-playing guys should really have a look at 20mm, as the space needed for throwaway minis is far less too. Cyberpunk warehouse skirmishes become quite doable on an A3 piece of paper etc.
Plenty of figures available in 28mm so really looking forward to seeing more in 20mm. Used to play Necromunda using 20mm figs. These chappies are just the thing to give me a jump start and dig out my stuff again.
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Exactly this ^ .
There?s no shortage of options for models of this sort at 28mm. There?s even a line from Copplestone under the Future Wars banner.
https://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/list.php?cat=1&page=1
20mm is underserved, but as the posts here mention, is really the ideal scale if one also wants vehicles involved. With the metal Dark Future and Copplestone Gaslands there?s a solid seed to grow from. These models from Maceface would be a welcome addition and add to a niche, but very solid line of figs.
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I do my SciFi RPG with 20mm minis.
Mainly Dark Future, Elheim and Gaslands for humans though there's a scatter of other manufacturers 20mm stuff too.
On the evidence of the two minis shown here I'd definitely be interested .... providing I'm not going to need to sell a kidney to get them delivered!
I don't know if anyone else feels the same but one thing I am woefully short of is suitable civilians.
Traders in illicit goods
Corporate types with laptop equivalents or briefcases rather than armed to the teeth.
Crime Kingpins who rely on minions to do the actual fighting.
Mum, Dad and the kids to be kidnapped, rescued or collateral damage.
Passengers, customers and officials.
Perhaps that's just me.
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Yes to all of the above!
Characters and NPC's in non combat poses.
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Not a scale that I'm interested in but I just thought I'd chip in and say that those two miniatures are very nice :) ... especially for the size.
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I?m 100% in for this. A Post Apoc setting (set in an alternate 1998) using the Dark Future and Gaslands models is my largest hobby project. Heck, see my profile pic. I?ve been playing Gaslands with em, using home brewed rules for models on foot but am about to start playing Xenos Rampant. This scale is perfect for using with toy cars so these two games are a great fit.
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=129236.0
I?ve got all the Gaslands figs, have collected most of the Dark Future ones, and have supplemented the project with Elheim and red box 1/72 stalkers, zombies and survivors. Here?s a preview of some of the models in the gangs of my collection.
https://wyrdstonesandtacklezones.com/2024/01/09/gaslands-gangs-on-parade/
I?d love to add these figs to my collection just let me know when they become available!
I love your project! Have defs studied your various gangs when I was getting into the Copplestone Gaslands figures!
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I do my SciFi RPG with 20mm minis.
Mainly Dark Future, Elheim and Gaslands for humans though there's a scatter of other manufacturers 20mm stuff too.
On the evidence of the two minis shown here I'd definitely be interested .... providing I'm not going to need to sell a kidney to get them delivered!
I don't know if anyone else feels the same but one thing I am woefully short of is suitable civilians.
Traders in illicit goods
Corporate types with laptop equivalents or briefcases rather than armed to the teeth.
Crime Kingpins who rely on minions to do the actual fighting.
Mum, Dad and the kids to be kidnapped, rescued or collateral damage.
Passengers, customers and officials.
Perhaps that's just me.
Absolutely! One of the goals will be civilians. Have worked on a bunch of walking unarmed civilians to populate those city streets or station corridors. Useful for sci fi too, as the clothing would be somewhat near-modern / 80s future.
As with a few of the big settings, we will have Cyberpunk/Tech within the big walled cities, and more madmax / waterworld style Raiders further out into the wastelands. Celebrities and bounty hunters facing off on the endless highways for fame and money. Scavengers on dirtbikes pouring out of the old storm drains, old theme parks and industrial sites as strongholds for criminals and warlords...
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Role-playing guys should really have a look at 20mm, as the space needed for throwaway minis is far less too. Cyberpunk warehouse skirmishes become quite doable on an A3 piece of paper etc.
Go well with the GW Judge Dredd floorplans or Loki battlemats new cyberpunk book.
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Cracking work!
Not sure I can justify 20mm.... But would be very interested if you ever did some in 28mm as they look a perfect thematic fit for the Copplestone/Grenadier Future Wars range
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These look absolutely magnificent! :-*
Been wanting to do some 20mm cyberpunk for forever! Used to use the GW Dark Future pedestrians in my Cyberpunk 2020 games. Looking to get back into that, so the timing is perfect.
They would be great for Exploit Zero or Reality?s Edge!
Love ?em! :)
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wow!
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I?m 100% in for this. A Post Apoc setting (set in an alternate 1998) using the Dark Future and Gaslands models is my largest hobby project. Heck, see my profile pic. I?ve been playing Gaslands with em, using home brewed rules for models on foot but am about to start playing Xenos Rampant. This scale is perfect for using with toy cars so these two games are a great fit.
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=129236.0
I?ve got all the Gaslands figs, have collected most of the Dark Future ones, and have supplemented the project with Elheim and red box 1/72 stalkers, zombies and survivors. Here?s a preview of some of the models in the gangs of my collection.
https://wyrdstonesandtacklezones.com/2024/01/09/gaslands-gangs-on-parade/
I?d love to add these figs to my collection just let me know when they become available!
Would love to see your home-brew for pedestrians in gaslands!
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If you could do some of these chaps you would make an old man very happy.
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If you don't mind a link to some of my efforts.
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=131942.0#msg1676294
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If you could do some of these chaps you would make an old man very happy.
Elheim does those in 20mm:
https://www.elhiem.co.uk/ourshop/prod_3037044-FCCS01-SIFI08-FED-Security-with-sealed-helmets.html
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Hi Lead 'eads, over the last few years I've been dreaming up a Cyberpunk / Dystopia / 80s-2000s / Dark Future setting, with a model range in 20mm*.
Designed to be Compatible with Gaslands, Dark Future, RPGs (the 20mm* size is pretty nice for gridded maps and loads of civilians...)
Here are the first two test models I made, but many more are in the wings to be shown off soon :-)
Will aim to cover Police, Thugs, Mercs, Scavengers, Civilians, Cyberpunk Runners, Raiders and many more...
Let me know if this is something of interest!
*20mm is aprox 23-24mm to top of head usually, maybe absolutely max 25mm, also known as 1/72
Definitely if they fit with the Gaslands figures.
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Definitely if they fit with the Gaslands figures.
I've scaled all my stuff around Copplestone's / Northstar Gaslands figures :-)
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Those figures are fantastic - just exactly the kind of figures I'm looking for. Now, as to rules - have you looked at 'Reality's Edge'? Cyberpunkish wargame rules. Now deckers and riggers would be great to have, along with a few chromeboys/solo's/street samurai/ronin/call 'em what you will; cutting edge cyber-mercenaries. As well as the usual gangers and the crowd of millicent bystanders of course!
Fantastic work Maceface, can't wait to see more.
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Would love to see your home-brew for pedestrians in gaslands!
Sure. It's pretty bare-bones, but we try to keep it in the spirit of the Gaslands rules, and is working for us so far. We don't really use spawning points, but just have crew go on foot if their vehicle is wrecked, but doesn't explode. We use a foot model or each crew member that a vehicle has, but I have a lot of foot models. If a group only have a few, maybe they just consider a crew model for the driver only?
Anyway, this is what we're currently using: https://mikeyc222.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/gaslands_-wreck-n-crew.pdf
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Elheim does those in 20mm:
https://www.elhiem.co.uk/ourshop/prod_3037044-FCCS01-SIFI08-FED-Security-with-sealed-helmets.html
Thought they were 28s
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No, pretty sure they're 20mm. Almost all of Elhiem's figures are 20mm, the few exceptions are clearly labelled - I think these are definitely 20mm. If you want 28mm, there are a few on CheckPoint and some used to be on Crooked Dice but I've a feeling they are on a different site now. And, of course, you should be able to find printed figures or stl's.
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For 28mm Federated Security, search for Beast in the Broch. These are the B7 figs Crooked Dice used to do. ;)
But, yeah, Elhiem do the 20mm versions.
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Those figures are fantastic - just exactly the kind of figures I'm looking for. Now, as to rules - have you looked at 'Reality's Edge'? Cyberpunkish wargame rules. Now deckers and riggers would be great to have, along with a few chromeboys/solo's/street samurai/ronin/call 'em what you will; cutting edge cyber-mercenaries. As well as the usual gangers and the crowd of millicent bystanders of course!
Fantastic work Maceface, can't wait to see more.
Thankyou!
I'm 1000% keen to do some packs of cyberpunk roles, as it's really essential for all of the RPGs and reality edge etc. This range will hopefully cover many aspects of nearfuture/postapoc (not fallout level) so should be a toolbox range for various games.
As per Cyberpunk2020 or Darkfuture or Carwars; you could absolutely have hacking and cyberpunk within cities and facilities, but still have either local nomads or mad Max Raiders the further away from resources you get.
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No, pretty sure they're 20mm. Almost all of Elhiem's figures are 20mm, the few exceptions are clearly labelled - I think these are definitely 20mm. If you want 28mm, there are a few on CheckPoint and some used to be on Crooked Dice but I've a feeling they are on a different site now. And, of course, you should be able to find printed figures or stl's.
It is ok I have 28mm from various manufacturers including I thought Elheim. Maybe it was CP miniatures.
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@Swiftnick
For 28mm Federated Security, search for Beast in the Broch. These are the B7 figs Crooked Dice used to do. ;)
But, yeah, Elhiem do the 20mm versions.
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Thankyou!
I'm 1000% keen to do some packs of cyberpunk roles, as it's really essential for all of the RPGs and reality edge etc. This range will hopefully cover many aspects of nearfuture/postapoc (not fallout level) so should be a toolbox range for various games.
As per Cyberpunk2020 or Darkfuture or Carwars; you could absolutely have hacking and cyberpunk within cities and facilities, but still have either local nomads or mad Max Raiders the further away from resources you get.
Reality's Edge do seem to be a fairly generic set of rules - I don't think there's anything in there that wouldn't be out of place in Cyberpunk or human only Shadowrun; doing some generic crew for those games plus some Bladerunner-esque street people for sprawl dwellers would give plenty of options for other games without going too niche with, say Mad Max (which does have a very specific look). I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with on this as long as theirs a tuktuk mobile noodle seller of course!
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Very interesting indeed!
At some point I'll be getting back to my 1/72 Zombies!!! and I've used a lot of old 20mm Dark Future minis and others for survivors.
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@Swiftnick
Yes I saw that thanks.
I am not looking for any more 28mm. I have loads of the crooked dice and also another manufacturer which I thought was Elheim.
But thanks for the heads up. Good to find the DWMG again a set I used to play and enjoy.
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I've scaled all my stuff around Copplestone's / Northstar Gaslands figures :-)
Perfect.
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Awesome! I make my space bastards at 20mm as to my eye it's the happiest medium between paintable detail and practical army gaming/painting.
I look forward to seeing more of these!
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Awesome! I make my space bastards at 20mm as to my eye it's the happiest medium between paintable detail and practical army gaming/painting.
I look forward to seeing more of these!
Totally Agree, whilst I love all scales, 20mm has been a pretty fun one for that middle size.
I should have a bunch more models to show in around 2 weeks... doing research now on what is needed to cover all the various Blue-books and RPG tropes!
Also planning a super secret water based expansion....
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Oh no, not the dreaded sci-fi jetski's! lol
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I should have a bunch more models to show in around 2 weeks... doing research now on what is needed to cover all the various Blue-books and RPG tropes!
Has two weeks passed yet? Inquiring minds need to know! 😂
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Haha I hope only 1 week has passed!
Start the countdown again!
Though I've planned out the first 2 releases ;-)
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Any idea what channel they might become available through?
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Any idea what channel they might become available through?
I'm certain North Star Military Figures, possibly through my own website eventually (it's dead) once enough codes exist. That would be an Australian store, so likely you guys would go with Northstar and affiliated retailers.
First goal is to make Reality's Edge playable (noone houses all the stuff you need AFAIK). Then move into gaslands and Dark future territory, as we move from the cities to the Highways and wastelands.
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I'm certain North Star Military Figures, possibly through my own website eventually (it's dead) once enough codes exist. That would be an Australian store, so likely you guys would go with Northstar and affiliated retailers.
Are you planning to sell your fantasy stuff in Australia as well? That would be very exciting!
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Eagerly anticipating this line, but back to the question, "what would we like to see".
To be honest, one of the largest gaps in 20mm offerings is lack of diverse characters. I mean, between the Dark Future Citadel line and Copplestone's Gaslands there's few women and even less people of color. I think Dark Future has two that appear to be Hispanic, but all the other models across both lines seem to be of European descent. Now, I'm aware that these post apoc lines have sort of exaggerated stereotypes, and maybe any of them can be painted any ethnicity, which is what I have done in my collection, but still there's a lack of obviously diverse models.
Look at something like Foundry's Street Violence line: https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/street-violence for my dystopian dollar, this is still the best line in 28mm and I'd love if we could get similar representation in 20mm. There's nothing in 20mm close to Garfield's Yardies that I've come across:
(https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/cdn/shop/products/SV027_1024x1024.jpg?v=1612455454)
Copplestone's line didn't have any women until the very last set released, The Punks. But still, you don't have to sculpt whole ethnic groups, but Street Violence shows the way here with diversity even within sets. Witness:
(https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/cdn/shop/products/SV017_1024x1024.jpg?v=1612457014)
(https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/cdn/shop/products/SV038_1024x1024.jpg?v=1612455760)
(The sexploitation isn't the highlight here)
Again, I've worked around this by using various skin and hair tones, and at 20mm it passes, but the real opportunity of a new line at this scale is to bring in some representation the scale hasn't had.
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That's certainly a good idea if you can avoid making them into caricatures of diversity rather than a more subtle diverse look.
Making a line catering to the different types of characters in Reality's Edge is definitely something I'd be interested in and, as I've mentioned before, is likely to have a broader appeal in other near future/cyberpunkish games as well.
Not sure how to represent the avatar's for the game though; I did manage to find some coloured, translucent figures for some game or other that I'm thinking of using but that's probably not a good option for production.
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Yeah, of course caricatures should be avoided. I meant it, but thanks for explicitly stating it.
How is Reality's Edge? I've only known one person to play it and he wasn't a fan. He felt it was too crunchy. Almost full RPG-level of crunch. But it was only one play.
For the avatar in the game, he painted a model sorta ghost like. Similar to those blue ghasts I did over in the Burrows & Badgers thread, but if I remember correctly, green.
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The book itself is definitely RPG-level crunch but, as long as you have a reference (card or sheet) for the many items and rules you can play, then the game is actually fairly straightforward. I would say that having card references is optional for some games but pretty essential for this one - it'd be difficult to play directly from the book which is the thickest Osprey game book I've seen to date! Much of the book is taken up with all kinds of equipment and chrome, which makes it seem far more complicated than it actually is; most of this will add a few special modifiers or rules to your character if you take those items, but all of that reference area isn't needed for game play (as I said, you just need a reference card or sheet with the list of your upgrades and the game effects).
Using clearly identifiable avatars is essential as both the real and virtual world are represented on the tabletop - you can draw line-of-sight from either a model or it's virtual avatar! This sounds complicated but isn't really with identifiable miniatures and a little bit of prep-work. Having said all that, if you're the kind of player that just wants a beer-and-pretzels game, then it might not be the best fit - it needs a bit more than that to be an enjoyable game.
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The book itself is definitely RPG-level crunch but, as long as you have a reference (card or sheet) for the many items and rules you can play, then the game is actually fairly straightforward. I would say that having card references is optional for some games but pretty essential for this one - it'd be difficult to play directly from the book which is the thickest Osprey game book I've seen to date! Much of the book is taken up with all kinds of equipment and chrome, which makes it seem far more complicated than it actually is; most of this will add a few special modifiers or rules to your character if you take those items, but all of that reference area isn't needed for game play (as I said, you just need a reference card or sheet with the list of your upgrades and the game effects).
Using clearly identifiable avatars is essential as both the real and virtual world are represented on the tabletop - you can draw line-of-sight from either a model or it's virtual avatar! This sounds complicated but isn't really with identifiable miniatures and a little bit of prep-work. Having said all that, if you're the kind of player that just wants a beer-and-pretzels game, then it might not be the best fit - it needs a bit more than that to be an enjoyable game.
It really does have that necro94 level of passion, quite an impressive tome!
The game has very typical roles though, so the models will fit into any rpg or tabletop game, but just knowing it's a solution to an osprey game is pretty tidy.
I do love that street violence range so can take some cues from it.
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I was just thinking today that we could probably do with a listing of cyberpunk skirmish wargames alongside the other sci-fi wargames listing. I know there are a few; Reality's Edge, Infinity, Rezolution A Dark Tomorrow, and at least a couple of actual Cyberpunk games; the original Friday Night Firefight and the latest Cyberpunk miniatures game. Alongside those are a good few available on pdf which I'm less familiar with - it might be helpful if we could put a listing together which could act as a guide to players.
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How about some cool Yakuza enforcers with machine pistols and swords?
The big boss and bodyguards. A geisha style android.
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How about some cool Yakuza enforcers with machine pistols and swords?
The big boss and bodyguards. A geisha style android.
Great Ideas for a pack :-)
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Great Ideas for a pack :-)
I like that idea! Can I suggest some modern, super cool, leather clad, techy vampires? That might be another reason to carry katanas...
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I like that idea! Can I suggest some modern, super cool, leather clad, techy vampires? That might be another reason to carry katanas...
Underworld style or Blade (films) style?
Could be interesting, although they don't have to be obviously vampires - could do double-duty as hard-a$$ ronin or tooled up street mercs?
The Yakuza types could be really cool but other ranges tend to go for either suits-and-ties or low-level bare torso types - how about some inspired by Akira, Ghost in the Shell or other anime, not to mention the 2000AD Shimura and Hondo City stories? Biker jackets (with rolled-up sleeves of course), shades, leather gloves, etc. could be another way of looking at them.
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Underworld style or Blade (films) style?
Could be interesting, although they don't have to be obviously vampires - could do double-duty as hard-a$$ ronin or tooled up street mercs?
The Yakuza types could be really cool but other ranges tend to go for either suits-and-ties or low-level bare torso types - how about some inspired by Akira, Ghost in the Shell or other anime, not to mention the 2000AD Shimura and Hondo City stories? Biker jackets (with rolled-up sleeves of course), shades, leather gloves, etc. could be another way of looking at them.
I like the sound of the biker clad Yakuza. At least one on an Akira style motorcycle please!
I've converted a couple of figures to represent the fictional White Dragon Tong, with others earmarked to follow. Yakuza opposition would be ideal.
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It also occurred to me, after I wrote the post above, that some Yakuza clans wear a warriors topknot in imitation of the Samurai hairstyle (but without the shaved forehead) so this could also be an identifier.
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Has two weeks passed yet? Inquiring minds need to know! 😂
Bumpety bump :D
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I'm really eager to see what Maceface has come up with as well. All will be revealed in time, I'm sure.
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Haha I appreciate how keen you guys are!
I had to manage a few different projects in the last month, but have made some.progress ;-) let's see if I can get some test casts done this week...
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Underworld style or Blade (films) style?
Could be interesting, although they don't have to be obviously vampires - could do double-duty as hard-a$$ ronin or tooled up street mercs?
The Yakuza types could be really cool but other ranges tend to go for either suits-and-ties or low-level bare torso types - how about some inspired by Akira, Ghost in the Shell or other anime, not to mention the 2000AD Shimura and Hondo City stories? Biker jackets (with rolled-up sleeves of course), shades, leather gloves, etc. could be another way of looking at them.
I'm not one to be prescriptive. I'd be happy with anything along these lines.
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*Bump* looking forward to seeing more from this line!
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Just another bump for interest.
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I like those. I'd like to see soldiers for one.
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I’d very much like to an armed criminal element that resembles the Crowder crew in “Justified”; not the caricature moonshiners from Gaslands. Leather or denim jackets, mini-rugers, rifles w scopes. That sort of stuff….
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Any updates? ;)
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Any updates? ;)
We need to know more...
I missed the reference to watercraft earlier. That is the best thing yet! I'm completely enamoured of this project!
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We need to know more...
I missed the reference to watercraft earlier. That is the best thing yet! I'm completely enamoured of this project!
Apologies for the biggest tease in wargaming...
Life happened, as it does! I'm just sorting out the Hornblower Range coming up to the 1 year (September), buuuuut I've made a start on many packs of Crimewave.
I've got a few different angles that ideally would all be part of a Dystopian setting, but may be broken into sub ideas:
- Cyberpunk
- Road Warriors
- Waterworld
- Zone Alfa
- Gritty Sci-Fi (aliens, space workers)
Will see how I get on after Hornblower year 1 Wraps up.
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Great, gives me time to hunt out my old JD floorplans. :)
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I’m very late to this thread but would be very interested as I have some Dark Future chaps and bikes but would love to add more and be able to play some more alien or cyberpunk stuff with them as well. Would also love to see some armed cultists too. Looking forward to these.
Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
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I’m very late to this thread but would be very interested as I have some Dark Future chaps and bikes but would love to add more and be able to play some more alien or cyberpunk stuff with them as well. Would also love to see some armed cultists too. Looking forward to these.
Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
I think that part of the initial idea was that the range would fit in with the older DF figures as well as the newer Copplestone Gaslands range, whilst giving more scope to 20mm skirmish games.
I think I may still have a couple of those old robed and hooded DF cultists in a bag somewhere, have to see if I can find them.
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I did have a decent amount of dark future once but they were lost in the “generous mum gives away my stuff I’d stored, for future, somewhere I thought safe” period of my hobby - lost a lot of cool things. I really like the robed chaps from Dark Future - they were maybe even the start of my interest in smaller (than 25mm) scales.
Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
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The Dark Future robed chaps are brilliant. I use them as “Elites” or “Senior” members of the cult that also incorporates the Copplestone Wasteland Warriors into a unified Alien Worshipping Human Cult gang.
(https://wyrdstonesandtacklezones.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/a19e755a-be70-406e-b63d-0906b6868be5.jpeg)
(https://wyrdstonesandtacklezones.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/b08a91aa-810a-4423-9258-cf768c126d37.jpeg)
I’m definitely looking forward to this Crimewave line to expand my 20mm collection. Glad to see it might be proceeding!
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Any more word on these minis? I understand 20mm is the oddball scale in this hobby, despite being my favorite.
Even if only the two shown get released in some fashion, I'm in.
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The Dark Future robed chaps are brilliant. I use them as “Elites” or “Senior” members of the cult that also incorporates the Copplestone Wasteland Warriors into a unified Alien Worshipping Human Cult gang.
I’m definitely looking forward to this Crimewave line to expand my 20mm collection. Glad to see it might be proceeding!
Firstly, Mr. White, can I ask where the "pistol packin' momma" centre rear comes from. I don't recognise the mini and would love to add her to my Wasteland Raiders gang.
Secondly, Maceface, while I realise you are probably rather busy earning a living can you spare a moment for an update on this, even if only to say that life has got in the way and it hasn't progressed. Any info is better than ominous silence :)
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@ithoriel - she’s from the Dark Alliance Stalker Set 1
https://plasticsoldierreview.com/ShowFeature.aspx?id=113
I shaved her hair to match the cult. It was tough to do though. The plastic is soft and the scale small. Her head is another case of… “looks good at arm’s length”.
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While it's a nice idea to think that Maceface only has the crimewave range to think about, I suspect that he is honouring his commitments to the other ranges that he sculpts and that this range is probably a sideline for the moment, possibly waiting for a bit of free time in the future.
I think I'm going to practice a spot of patience, at least for now! lol
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Apologies for the silence!
I've been working on many projects and slowly finishing off packs for this project ;-)
Crimewave has been split into a few thematic ideas, which could all work together at a later date..though I suspect everyone is using the figures for varied projects so a coherent lore doesn't matter.
1. CrimeWave = Cyberpunk
2. DarkZone = Coldwar 1980-2000s Horror / Zone Alfa / Delta Green / Survival / Horror Nam.
3. RoadRage = Gaslands / Dark Future / Waterworld / MadMax
So really all of these ideas fit into a DarkFuture Dystopia, but I'm letting you guys pick up what fits your own settings and keeping these distinct lines for the moment.
Cyberpunk will require the most brainpower so I've stumbled into finishing the first 6 packs of DarkZone, hopefully get these cast up next month.
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Thanks for taking the time to give us an update, much appreciated!
I realise that working multiple projects can sometimes be like spinning plates, you can only focus on the one about to fall. :)
Of course Dark Zone is the bit I'm least interested in but no doubt I'll still find things I want in it.
Some people are never satisfied .... lol lol lol
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I'm actually just wondering if there might be a few zombie apocalypse survivors lurking amongst the Dark Zone figures? Always use a few new faces.
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Oddly enough, apocalypse survivors is the one category I feel 20mm has abundance in. I mean, there are many companies that produce modern military in this scale and any of those can work but then there are companies like Elheim or Dark Alliance that has about 50 different sculpts of apocalypse survivors across their Rednecks, Survivors, and Stalkers boxes.
It seems to me the Dark Zone category is well covered.
It’s the other categories that are only really held up by the Copplestone Gaslands line and the long OOP Dark Future figs. And they don’t cover Cyberpunk very well. That setting is the most sparse at this scale from what I can tell.
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Point taken, even though I'm not too keen on the Dark Alliance soft plastic figures. I'd be ok to see those, especially if, as Maceface inferred, they were also designed to overlap with the other settings. The range has to be divided up somehow - it's a bit too broad just as it is, and this is not a bad place to start; given the popularity of Z games.
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Very sorry to disappoint, though we will get to it all in time!
Whilst there are other brands out there, I enjoy sculpting the figures and will ultimately want to house as many solutions as possible under the one roof.
The zone scavengers would really be madmax types if painted in dirty browns instead of green rain jackets, and zombies can fit in anywhere.
I'd imagine the gangs that live under cyber Las Vegas zipping around on dirtbikes would have similar rainjacket/gasmask gear but maybe their jackets are yellow or neon work gear!
Lots of options with the paintjobs at this scale, plus all equipment would stylistically be compatible across all genres.
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I hope this wasn’t directed at me. I’m not disappointed. Judging by your Hornblower line, and what you’ve shared in the OP, these are gonna be must buy minis.
IMHO, the Copplestone Gaslands figs are the best models out there at this scale. Anything coming out of this “Crimewave Range” looks to be right up there. Both leagues beyond the others. Can’t wait… no matter which direction this goes.
Cheers!
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I love it. I love it all! Especially excited for water based stuff. That is almost unique in any scale. 👍
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Absolutely imagine horror anomalies popping up globally, so some zones will be suburbian, some in africa, jungles, siberia etc. This setting will allow for Investigators, Paramilitary, Blade heroes, Suburban Zombies + Survivors, Arctic Horror (the thing), Coldwar squads shooting down Vampires in Prague and so on.
Basically will cover "zona alfa + when nightmares come + countyz"
I'm actually just wondering if there might be a few zombie apocalypse survivors lurking amongst the Dark Zone figures? Always use a few new faces.
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The interesting thing is, the Aesthetic of waterworld Smokers and Fury Road gangers ie PoleCats (not the silver boyz) are not so different. So likely you can mix in lots of different sets of minis. Even the "scavengers" could work in isolation within a waterworld crew...
I love it. I love it all! Especially excited for water based stuff. That is almost unique in any scale. 👍
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Good news is, 5 packs are with the lords of the north right now, and hopefully come out next month!
Whilst the initial release is "DarkZone" and likely be posted about in another part of the forum (post apoc?) I'll keep any cyberpunk updates here.
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Huzzah! Can't wait.
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Good news is, 5 packs are with the lords of the north right now, and hopefully come out next month!
Whilst the initial release is "DarkZone" and likely be posted about in another part of the forum (post apoc?) I'll keep any cyberpunk updates here.
Yes!!
Oh, is this 5 packs or a single pack of 5?
Either way, I can’t wait! Got any pics we can salivate over in the meantime? ;)
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I‘m obviously Late for the Party(TM), but wanted to leave an opinion: awesome! Bloody hell what a cool range!!!
If you extend it ever, consider the following: Not-Snake Plissken!
And a +1 for civilians, diversity and deckers!
Great to see you take off!!!!
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Yes!!
Oh, is this 5 packs or a single pack of 5?
Either way, I can’t wait! Got any pics we can salivate over in the meantime? ;)
5 packs!
Scavengers and Zone Zombies for this one. And then we will see what happens for the next release...Bloc Troopers and Ghouls maybe!
I've got proper cyberpunk in the works too though
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Very exciting!
If you extend it ever, consider the following: Not-Snake Plissken!
Oh yes, me too. I'd like one of those. And talking cyberpunk, maybe a Total Recall pack? I'm very nostalgic for the late 80's these days...
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I can see Maceface may have to do a character pack at some point. A certain survivor with 2 kukri's perhaps, a not-snake plissken, a scruffy-looking survivor with a crossbow, and I'm sure there are others people could think of.
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Absolutely 100% need those classics.
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Absolutely 100% need those classics.
This is where I would use the applause emoji, if we had one. Hurrah for Maceface!
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I can see Maceface may have to do a character pack at some point. A certain survivor with 2 kukri's perhaps, a not-snake plissken, a scruffy-looking survivor with a crossbow, and I'm sure there are others people could think of.
Haha! The 80s had so many iconic movie characters…just for the PostApoc/Cyberpunk we could use:
1. Mad Max‘s Sidekicks: Not-Furiosa, Totally Tina Turner, Master & Blaster, Boomerang Kid
2. Not-Snake, The Duke
3. Death Race Stallone
4. Arnold, just for the fun as a Terminator
5. Blade Runner Style Detective
6. Cybernetically Enhanced „robotic“ Cop
7. a dreaded Policeman judging criminals
… and has anyone mentioned Shadowrun, yet?
PS & @Maceface: I‘m sure many of those won‘t be useful for the current market, so let‘s just sum up: a set of real heroes is what we want!
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Haha! The 80s had so many iconic movie characters…just for the PostApoc/Cyberpunk we could use:
1. Mad Max‘s Sidekicks: Not-Furiosa, Totally Tina Turner, Master & Blaster, Boomerang Kid
2. Not-Snake, The Duke
3. Death Race Stallone
4. Arnold, just for the fun as a Terminator
5. Blade Runner Style Detective
6. Cybernetically Enhanced „robotic“ Cop
7. a dreaded Policeman judging criminals
… and has anyone mentioned Shadowrun, yet?
PS & @Maceface: I‘m sure many of those won‘t be useful for the current market, so let‘s just sum up: a set of real heroes is what we want!
Absolutely able to work in a bunch of those.
Shadowrun is something I want to cover too, human / generic first though. Problem with other "races" is that you might need loads of packs just to give someone their race/class/gender combo.
Personally I like to imagine playing rpgs with 20mm minis, since you can easily do it on a desk/table, gridded rooms etc. And models require less storage than 28s.
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5. Blade Runner Style Detective
We’ve got this one in 20mm in the Northstar Highway Patrol line from Copplestone.
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I've seen a lot of those choices around in various scales, some of them might be quite good to see, though. Some figures inspired by Escape from New York might be good for survivors as well whilst Thunderdome figures would be beyond many post-apoc survival games (Caesar's Apes fighting Tina's Bartertown crew might be a fun but weird mashup!).
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Apologies, just one more from me! Just thought of this today. Greys, but really mean greys, along the lines of the now sadly defunct Griffin Miniatures range:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=117332.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=117332.0)
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We’ve got this one in 20mm in the Northstar Highway Patrol line from Copplestone.
Okay, I forgot abaout Not-Deckard here. So maybe it would be a good strategy to sell more blister packs to add a single iconic character to each set?! o_o lol
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Love the first two figures! Be nice to paint something in this scale , I did have a few dark future figures when they came out , I loved the syndicate style hooded guys
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Apologies, just one more from me! Just thought of this today. Greys, but really mean greys, along the lines of the now sadly defunct Griffin Miniatures range:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=117332.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=117332.0)
I used the Khurasan 15mm Greys for my 20mm sci-fi games until they mysteriously disappeared during a house move/ period in storage.
I mean, how big are Greys in real life? :)
Which reminds me, I must put in an order to Khurasan sometime soon.
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I’m using 15mm Greys from Rebel Minis.
They seem to work if you’re ok with your greys a little on the smaller side.
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The Greys fit in perfectly! :o And what did you use for that Grey overmind leading the cult?
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Thanks!
The Overmind is a 28mm Reaper Alien Overlord.
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=129236.msg1802707#msg1802707
@maceface - I feel bad adding to the requests, but one of the great features of the Copplestone Gaslands figs and the classic Citadel Dark Future line is that they provided models to ride and hang on vehicles. I dunno how well those sell, but I love em so if there’s room to include drivers and riders… that’d be fantastic. ;)
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Yes I've got drivers and gunners for each faction so far, it's an easy pack to make!