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Miniatures Adventure => Pulp => Topic started by: Gunbird on December 09, 2009, 08:57:56 PM

Title: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Gunbird on December 09, 2009, 08:57:56 PM
Hope these are acceptable....tried to make the bases fit in with the Irish table, but left some bare patches if the base needs matching with the new owner....one of em anyway  :grin:

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/Dogs1.jpg)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/Dogs6.jpg)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/Dogs2.jpg)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/Dogs3.jpg)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/Dogs4.jpg)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/Dogs5.jpg)
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: marko.oja on December 09, 2009, 09:14:49 PM
looks good,

and here's the inevitable question: who makes em?  :)

Marko
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Gunbird on December 09, 2009, 09:21:18 PM
Fenris Games, off Ebay, 4 quid for a pair of em
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: archangel1 on December 10, 2009, 04:33:37 AM
Nice job but, as is far too common, the designers of the Fu Dogs are still mixing up the proper characteristics.  The Ainsty/Old Crow versions appear to be more accurate.

Your third picture shows the correct normal position, with the animals (always paired) facing inward.  However, as best I can tell, the probable male dog, with one foot often on a ball (a rock in this case) is then on the wrong side.  He should always be on the left, when facing the statues.  (Females usually have one foot on a cub.)  If a foot is not propped on a ball or cub, then, surprisingly, the male is the one with its mouth open.  He's often slightly larger (taller) as well.  They should also be placed outside the building or gate, facing away from the doorway they are guarding, never towards it.
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Onebigriver on December 10, 2009, 02:22:13 PM
They are for pulp games, a genre not renowned for accuracy.  ::)
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: sukhe_bator on December 10, 2009, 05:13:51 PM
You tell 'em archangel1! It does irk me when scenery companys get the details on something so specific wrong.
Mind you Onebigriver also has a point. But there is one thing in which all genres seem to like to share - plundering Indian Arms and Armour. I've lost track of how many Fantasy & SciFi series and Films I've seen with punch daggers in them  >:(
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Onebigriver on December 10, 2009, 06:39:31 PM
Sheesh, some people need to get out more. What's wrong with historical arms and armour featuring in fantasy films? You can't re-invent the wheel!  :?
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: wolfgangbrooks on December 11, 2009, 03:22:13 AM
I know I prefer accuracy to hollywoodization. Saying stuff like, "It's fantasy/sci-fi/pulp, it doesn't matter!" is the same to me as saying "Important details? I can't be bothered!"  :)
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Onebigriver on December 11, 2009, 11:45:15 AM
I know I prefer accuracy to hollywoodization. Saying stuff like, "It's fantasy/sci-fi/pulp, it doesn't matter!" is the same to me as saying "Important details? I can't be bothered!"  :)

Define important.

I'm all for accuracy to a degree, but it strikes me that there are still too many people in the hobby that would get huffy if someone turned up with a British Nap army with stovepipe shakos to wargame Waterloo.
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Commander Vyper on December 11, 2009, 02:09:44 PM
Nice job but, as is far too common, the designers of the Fu Dogs are still mixing up the proper characteristics.  The Ainsty/Old Crow versions appear to be more accurate.

Your third picture shows the correct normal position, with the animals (always paired) facing inward.  However, as best I can tell, the probable male dog, with one foot often on a ball (a rock in this case) is then on the wrong side.  He should always be on the left, when facing the statues.  (Females usually have one foot on a cub.)  If a foot is not propped on a ball or cub, then, surprisingly, the male is the one with its mouth open.  He's often slightly larger (taller) as well.  They should also be placed outside the building or gate, facing away from the doorway they are guarding, never towards it.

 ::)
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Gunbird on December 11, 2009, 11:13:09 PM
Well, thats for the new owners to decide if they have a problem with that. This being a Christmas gift, I doubt it.

Maybe I'll pick up that set from Old Crow and try again, not that I game in 28mm or China.
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: archangel1 on December 12, 2009, 12:03:18 AM
Let's face it.  Most gamers are pretty easy when it comes to mixing things up when they work in some of the more esoteric fields like Pulp, VSF, WWWII and the like.  It's a game after all.  In this case, though, I get slightly tetchy because, unlike many of the props used in gaming, Fu Dogs have a long and specific history relating to their use.  I just find it a bit annoying that some of the sculptors didn't seem to take the time to read up on what they actually mean, other than doing them just for their cool factor.  In most cases, it probably wouldn't have affected their sculpting much anyway, other than maybe changing the direction each 'dog' in the pair faced or putting one foot on the proper symbol, which isn't always necessary, either.  Could be left foot, right foot or neither, in which case the position of the mouth was the usual factor in determining sex.

Just my 2 cents...
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Overlord on December 12, 2009, 12:13:08 AM
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5739/mrti.jpg)
I pity the Fu  lol
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: cdm on December 12, 2009, 06:07:18 AM
I found your post, intersting, informative and practically useful. Thank you for sharing :)

Nice job but, as is far too common, the designers of the Fu Dogs are still mixing up the proper characteristics.  The Ainsty/Old Crow versions appear to be more accurate.

Your third picture shows the correct normal position, with the animals (always paired) facing inward.  However, as best I can tell, the probable male dog, with one foot often on a ball (a rock in this case) is then on the wrong side.  He should always be on the left, when facing the statues.  (Females usually have one foot on a cub.)  If a foot is not propped on a ball or cub, then, surprisingly, the male is the one with its mouth open.  He's often slightly larger (taller) as well.  They should also be placed outside the building or gate, facing away from the doorway they are guarding, never towards it.
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Gunbird on December 12, 2009, 09:51:09 AM
Sorry Archangel, I noticed the info while reseachting them but never put 1 and 2 together. I thought the damage made it hard to see anyway. I've ordered the Old Crow ones and I'll try again.
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Onebigriver on December 12, 2009, 01:14:06 PM
Sorry Archangel, I noticed the info while reseachting them but never put 1 and 2 together. I thought the damage made it hard to see anyway. I've ordered the Old Crow ones and I'll try again.

I hope you're being ironic.  ;) If not, you've done a great job of these, ignore the pedants, I'm sure the new owner will be more than happy with them.
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: archangel1 on December 12, 2009, 07:23:29 PM
There's nothing wrong with your handling of the statues, wayswatcher.  They look fine.  You can't do anything about their arrangement because it's the sculptor who made the mistake, not you.
Title: Re: Temple Dogs for Ting Tong
Post by: Gunbird on December 12, 2009, 07:56:42 PM
Hehe, I know. And I was being ironic (damn the Internet....)

Curious now what I can do with the Old Crow ones, but I'll see that next year.