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Title: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: A painted figure 01/09/2025
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 08, 2025, 08:14:56 PM
Modiphius has recently published a standalone large scale combat system, based on and compatible with Five Parsecs From Home
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0Vta2bTAARavgA2Uc4rOLUIZKfNBfCAVh81hZUdbCzN_HZOUOvMJvbYb84ncJFMbameOjHEnica8bYVrnVAcmt1OlDPKdFhSJaWmYRX9xZY9JpClH606OsUiUsunLYleCcL2_8suEjaat7tR25PC4GBJu605xS5MSNXi5V_QxRReOJe92lYIc-lDSCXi_/s705/5pfh-tactics.png)
I ordered it together with the Stargrave Death Vector and the new Automata figures.

All the usual suspects (humans, ferals, precursors, swift, soulless, converted etc) are in there with some ones new to me.

Though there is more emphasis on GM and/or PvP games, there is coverage of solo play.

I am still reading it, but there a variety of different  scaled basic scenarios.

The skirmish scenario has a maximum of 15 figures on each side (if you go by points one side will have 15, the other potentially less).

So with the availability of the .Stargrave Automata figures, I decided that I would build a pair of skirmish armies.
One will be a Converted army (using the Automata figures as a base), the other a Human army using the Stargrave Troopers.

The human force:
Minor character
Infantry squad (5)
Infantry squad (5)
Weapon squad with autocannon (3)
Medic

The Converted force
Minor leader
Infantry squad (5)
Infantry squad (5)

Currently building the figures (I have a 20mm autocannon on order from Anvil, I will need to work out how to crew it).

Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 08, 2025, 09:02:33 PM
I picked up a copy a week or so ago; the rules look very good and extremely playable, although I've not had much time for more than a flip through the book. I think I might have a go at using Grymm as one of the forces, although I was under the impression that it was a minimum of 2 sections  (of 6 troops), not a maximum.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: punkrabbitt on June 09, 2025, 04:07:26 AM
Following with interest. I may be picking this one up soon.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 09, 2025, 06:13:43 PM
although I was under the impression that it was a minimum of 2 sections  (of 6 troops), not a maximum.
It is, but five years on I have not finished the minimum armies for Oathmark.
Just checked, squad is four infantry plus a Sergeant (four rifles plus an LMG).
https://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/search?q=Mini+army&max-results=20&by-date=true (https://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/search?q=Mini+army&max-results=20&by-date=true)

I think I might have a go at using Grymm as one of the forces,
It did cross my mind, if Hasslefree were reliable.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 09, 2025, 07:55:16 PM
Well I've not had a single problem with Hasslefree in the whole time I've been buying from them so, for my money, they're reliable as any small business.
Plus I've got a box full of Grymm I've been meaning to sort out and get on the tabletop - If I can't make 2-3 squads out of them then it'll be a poor do!  lol
I must have miscounted the squad size, doh! 5 still seems like a fireteam size but it'll work out ok I think.

Oh yes, having gone through the box (and the rulebook) I think I've got more than enough for a platoon - 7 or 8 squads perhaps.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 10, 2025, 08:39:32 PM
The squad size is five (Sergeant + four infantry).

I only bought Hasslefree at Salute, so the last purchases were 2018.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 10, 2025, 09:09:56 PM
The squad size is five (Sergeant + four infantry).

I only bought Hasslefree at Salute, so the last purchases were 2018.
I know, you said it was previously. I wasn't doubting your word, just making an observation that 5 seemed a little on the small size for a squad, but about the right size for a fireteam plus sergeant.
Yeah, I saw they had been down for a bit, I'll just have to work with what I've got (which IS a lot) and hope they've worked through their illnesses and backlog, and are back up and running fairly soon. I think I've bought the odd figure here and there from the website since 2018 but probably nothing in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 10, 2025, 10:33:48 PM
Ah - that's something I hadn't realised; back in 2022, Kev White went back to work for Forgeworld full-time, meaning that only Sally and Dameon are now sorting out the kickstarter, sorting backorders, working through Kev's backlog of unreleased greens, managing the website and dealing with illness (Sally has a long-term debilitating illness). Ouch.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 11, 2025, 09:45:19 AM
So the first of the Converted.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg64SpsHdhCtpi40g2_eYrVTfby7nE10p5uP7D3lfjZVTsuBRGKKppLTIYstvcOkIsyILt3SQrhOyR-Ik61c1XPXJVp7e5XVdkhUDQ5ZTMyQn1EB_fFwVnplhphEiMw8LpzGk-A4D3NkUJocEe_cqVdfIkGd98JibEs5C8yzpvbyl8ciLNAT_LpzbgKHUJh/s500/converted-1.png)
Two built from the parts on the Automatons sprue, and one built with bits from the Scavenger and Crew sprues with an Automaton head.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtDbUUIsepPLG7jgNIo0cmnrcis2zEciC1ikRwbeMIbWRsPn37RMVd5mNjtYR5uQ9-VzJxOMmGmJFXunkECB-iC7LP44a4pBLcOBZ5kQ3y1F1FqyrqK-bIdyl2tkoJFWg7iQiKBfigXIm5y8SKhW0enQRX7SVhoFA0jSGj5udLH2oYSPOBMswcU13E3lg-/s1000/troopers-1.png)
A trooper squad (with LMG).
I have decided which of the rifle armed figures will be the Sergeant,  they will get some additional kit to go with the grenades that need to be added.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: zemjw on June 11, 2025, 10:16:01 AM
Ah - that's something I hadn't realised; back in 2022, Kev White went back to work for Forgeworld full-time, meaning that only Sally and Dameon are now sorting out the kickstarter, sorting backorders, working through Kev's backlog of unreleased greens, managing the website and dealing with illness (Sally has a long-term debilitating illness). Ouch.
Not to derail this thread, but the KS is now over 2 years late (yup, I backed for a few figures, despite knowing the chances of it delivering were low). There hasn't been an update on the KS, or a newsletter, all year. Dameon has more than his fair share of illnesses as well :(

I believe they have a temp person doing stuff, but I would be incredibly wary about ordering from them any time soon.

On topic, I have the book, but haven't done anything with it. I have enough Tau and Pig Iron figures to come up with a few squads, but I'm still working through the world's slowest Five Parsecs campaign. I like the fact they tie together and, I have plans to incorporate it into the campaign. However, I have about 1000 other plans for other things as well, so "it's in the queue" ;D
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 11, 2025, 10:53:21 AM
I have the book, but haven't done anything with it. I have enough Tau and Pig Iron figures to come up with a few squads, but I'm still working through the world's slowest Five Parsecs campaign. I like the fact they tie together and, I have plans to incorporate it into the campaign. However, I have about 1000 other plans for other things as well, so "it's in the queue" ;D
I am hoping this will prompt me to assemble (and paint) the boxes of Stargrave Troopers I bought way back when.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 11, 2025, 01:48:01 PM
So the first of the Converter.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg64SpsHdhCtpi40g2_eYrVTfby7nE10p5uP7D3lfjZVTsuBRGKKppLTIYstvcOkIsyILt3SQrhOyR-Ik61c1XPXJVp7e5XVdkhUDQ5ZTMyQn1EB_fFwVnplhphEiMw8LpzGk-A4D3NkUJocEe_cqVdfIkGd98JibEs5C8yzpvbyl8ciLNAT_LpzbgKHUJh/s500/converted-1.png)
Two built from the parts on the Automatons sprue, and one built with bits from the Scavenger and Crew sprues with an Automaton head.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtDbUUIsepPLG7jgNIo0cmnrcis2zEciC1ikRwbeMIbWRsPn37RMVd5mNjtYR5uQ9-VzJxOMmGmJFXunkECB-iC7LP44a4pBLcOBZ5kQ3y1F1FqyrqK-bIdyl2tkoJFWg7iQiKBfigXIm5y8SKhW0enQRX7SVhoFA0jSGj5udLH2oYSPOBMswcU13E3lg-/s1000/troopers-1.png)
A trooper squad (with LMG).
I have decided which of the rifle armed figures will be the Sergeant,  they will get some additional kit to go with the grenades that need to be added.
Hmm, yes - been sorting through the pile of Grymm, got 2 Recon squads (styling them Jagers, I think), a 3rd waiting to be sorted and I might even be able to get a 4th out of remnants. Should be able to get about 3 squads of Infantry as well, plus 2-3 squads of Shock troopers. I've been seperating them out by headgear and weapons - with the helmeted heads going to Infantry and the bare heads going to Recon (where they are immediately issued with a Perry backpack, and beret courtesy of the old bolt action commando sprue!) and Shock (where I'm probably going to have to sort out some helmets.
It's gathering momentum.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 11, 2025, 02:18:09 PM
Damn you, Autocorrect!
They are Converted  not Converter....
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 11, 2025, 03:16:15 PM
Damn you, Autocorrect!
They are Converted  not Converter....
I'd guessed!  lol
Just looking around for other races - Etsy used to do a set of sci-fi Vargr but I can only find the fantasy ones now. Khurasan and Elheim both do 28mm 'cat-like' aliens which could be useful but not much else out there for non-humans or aliens.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Psychopomp on June 11, 2025, 03:41:09 PM
Not to derail this thread, but the KS is now over 2 years late (yup, I backed for a few figures, despite knowing the chances of it delivering were low). There hasn't been an update on the KS, or a newsletter, all year. Dameon has more than his fair share of illnesses as well :(

I believe they have a temp person doing stuff, but I would be incredibly wary about ordering from them any time soon.

There's been more developments, recently.

Hasslefree was one of the companies whose webstore was hosted on the server that went down last year, affecting a lot of companies.  Unlike the other companies, Hasslefree's webstore never came back up.  There's just been a placeholder message promising they'll be back 'next month' for a year, followed by a recent update saying pretty much the same thing but also promising big news 'soon'.

The company the owners set up for Hasslefree, Black and White Games, LTD; was forcibly dissolved by HMRC back in May.  No details on why, but there was an appeal and denial, so its unlikely to be something as simple as a late filing.  The owners stood up a new company, HF Minis, LTD, a few days thereafter.

No one outside the company is sure what's going on, but SOMETHING is.  The above information is only known because the Kickstarter backers (who haven't seen the Pledge Manager open yet, despite it being promised 'next month' two years ago) have been following the company info as best they can to try and figure out if they'll ever get the stuff they paid for.



So, I'm not doing this to be mean to the owners, or to derail the thread.  This is a big, practical 'buyer beware' message from someone who has been burned and managed, after three years, to finally get a refund.

Every single time Hasslefree comes up over the last few years, it's followed a cycle, usually after the yearly "I'm back, I was sick, and I have a plan this time and email me if we owe you something, in the meantime here's a sale!" update: someone has had issues getting an order, in part or in whole, that they paid for, then get ghosted for months to years when they try to contact customer service. 

Then a few people chime in to say they got their last order just fine, Sally and Dameon are lovely people, and the illnesses besetting them are tragic.  Then a few people, encouraged by the latter, make orders and say they arrived quickly and with no problem.  Then, after the excitement of the sale has worn off and the thread has fallen off a bit, several more people start posting that their order, or some of the items in their order, from the sale never arrived, and no one's responding to their emails - then they ask what should they do?

The ratio of happy customers to ghosted customers without product has been getting markedly worse over the last few years, and now there's been no movement of a decent-sized Kickstarter for three years and no webstore for a year.  I'm sure Sally and Dameon ARE lovely people - when I finally got a response, Dameon was very nice, yes.  Their illnesses are indeed tragic, I agree.  However, these things do not change the basic facts on the ground - Hasslefree has been very unreliable for years.  If you get your order in full, amazing.  However, any purchase you make is gambling that will happen.  Their customers can and do fall in the cracks of their unreliability, and it is incredibly and increasingly difficult to get ahold of anyone to make good on it.

Now there's company regulatory issues going on in the background.  If the webstore does come back up, I strongly advise not to order from it until the company is under new management.  Regardless if intentional or not, regardless of other circumstances, as a business the current owners are highly unreliable.

Caveat emptor.  Buyer beware.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 11, 2025, 03:54:41 PM
I'd guessed!  lol
Just looking around for other races - Etsy used to do a set of sci-fi Vargr but I can only find the fantasy ones now. Khurasan and Elheim both do 28mm 'cat-like' aliens which could be useful but not much else out there for non-humans or aliens.
The link for "official" miniatures goes to a generic modiphius page.
Anvil have Avian figures, but sans wings.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 11, 2025, 03:57:41 PM
I do have some Anvil robots (Regiments and Exo-lord size) which might work as Souless with alternative rifles (fletchette?).
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhSOTB82NU1iogSYFmMENZMgxYs3OJzv-lcyqlbPGZmeDcpqduE6f3e1Y9AH0vZAzFSAu6HiRpB6pUoFTVb9MlKQw7c_DD6uA01ijnG_nrWl3bs4JYamrgQD1zCbkUEYXD6muz10gbSx_wUoQXe7ZnR0Ggx2VhKplwsFIYhfvL-ugLle_eQGotQx4yk8w=s500)
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Psychopomp on June 11, 2025, 04:00:13 PM
I do have some Anvil robots (Regiments and Exo-lord size) which might work as Souless with alternative rifles (fletchette?).
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhSOTB82NU1iogSYFmMENZMgxYs3OJzv-lcyqlbPGZmeDcpqduE6f3e1Y9AH0vZAzFSAu6HiRpB6pUoFTVb9MlKQw7c_DD6uA01ijnG_nrWl3bs4JYamrgQD1zCbkUEYXD6muz10gbSx_wUoQXe7ZnR0Ggx2VhKplwsFIYhfvL-ugLle_eQGotQx4yk8w=s500)

I can't decide if I like Anvil robots or Mantic Asterian Marionettes more as Soulless.  I mean, I can print the one and have a few sprues of the other, so I'll probably use one for Soulless and the other for warbots in 5Parsecs.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 11, 2025, 05:29:37 PM
I've got a load of Legion battledroids I bought then decided not to play. I thought about using them as the Soulless but I do like the Asterian robots and those you showed from Anvil. Oh decisions, decisions.  o_o
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: zemjw on June 11, 2025, 08:25:57 PM
For other races

I converted a bunch of Frostgrave gnolls last year - https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=144260.0

Mantic do space dwarves and veermyn (space skaven)

Have a look around checkpoint models, as they usually have some good items.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: aliensurfer on June 11, 2025, 10:01:47 PM
There's been more developments, recently.

Hasslefree was one of the companies whose webstore was hosted on the server that went down last year, affecting a lot of companies.  Unlike the other companies, Hasslefree's webstore never came back up.  There's just been a placeholder message promising they'll be back 'next month' for a year, followed by a recent update saying pretty much the same thing but also promising big news 'soon'.

The company the owners set up for Hasslefree, Black and White Games, LTD; was forcibly dissolved by HMRC back in May.  No details on why, but there was an appeal and denial, so its unlikely to be something as simple as a late filing.  The owners stood up a new company, HF Minis, LTD, a few days thereafter.

No one outside the company is sure what's going on, but SOMETHING is.  The above information is only known because the Kickstarter backers (who haven't seen the Pledge Manager open yet, despite it being promised 'next month' two years ago) have been following the company info as best they can to try and figure out if they'll ever get the stuff they paid for.



So, I'm not doing this to be mean to the owners, or to derail the thread.  This is a big, practical 'buyer beware' message from someone who has been burned and managed, after three years, to finally get a refund.

Every single time Hasslefree comes up over the last few years, it's followed a cycle, usually after the yearly "I'm back, I was sick, and I have a plan this time and email me if we owe you something, in the meantime here's a sale!" update: someone has had issues getting an order, in part or in whole, that they paid for, then get ghosted for months to years when they try to contact customer service. 

Then a few people chime in to say they got their last order just fine, Sally and Dameon are lovely people, and the illnesses besetting them are tragic.  Then a few people, encouraged by the latter, make orders and say they arrived quickly and with no problem.  Then, after the excitement of the sale has worn off and the thread has fallen off a bit, several more people start posting that their order, or some of the items in their order, from the sale never arrived, and no one's responding to their emails - then they ask what should they do?

The ratio of happy customers to ghosted customers without product has been getting markedly worse over the last few years, and now there's been no movement of a decent-sized Kickstarter for three years and no webstore for a year.  I'm sure Sally and Dameon ARE lovely people - when I finally got a response, Dameon was very nice, yes.  Their illnesses are indeed tragic, I agree.  However, these things do not change the basic facts on the ground - Hasslefree has been very unreliable for years.  If you get your order in full, amazing.  However, any purchase you make is gambling that will happen.  Their customers can and do fall in the cracks of their unreliability, and it is incredibly and increasingly difficult to get ahold of anyone to make good on it.

Now there's company regulatory issues going on in the background.  If the webstore does come back up, I strongly advise not to order from it until the company is under new management.  Regardless if intentional or not, regardless of other circumstances, as a business the current owners are highly unreliable.

Caveat emptor.  Buyer beware.

Can't say too much but this is definitely not down to Sally (the issues).
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 11, 2025, 10:24:57 PM
No, it won't be and Psychopomp's description, whilst he may be 100% sincere, doesn't fit with what I've seen of them and the company.

Of course, now that Kev's working for Forgeworld, he'll be under EXCLUSIVE contract, meaning he can't have anything to do with another figure company, nor do any sculpts for another figure company. Even his own! Which probably meant a load of fun and games with Companies House as they had to take Kev's name off the list of directors (and I think there has to be a minimum of 3 - so Sally, Dameon and ?).
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: hubbabubba on June 12, 2025, 10:14:08 AM
I'm tempted by this version of parsecs, it'd be nice to play some bigger platoon scale games after so
 much squad sized skirmish stuff over the last few years, but I'm also tempted by galactic heroes bigger battles.

Anyone who's played both care to compare and contrast the experience.

No, it won't be and Psychopomp's description, whilst he may be 100% sincere, doesn't fit with what I've seen of them and the company.

Of course, now that Kev's working for Forgeworld, he'll be under EXCLUSIVE contract, meaning he can't have anything to do with another figure company, nor do any sculpts for another figure company. Even his own! Which probably meant a load of fun and games with Companies House as they had to take Kev's name off the list of directors (and I think there has to be a minimum of 3 - so Sally, Dameon and ?).

I don't know either Sally or Damon personally, but I do know that I'd bought from them regularly for years, and the service was always top notch, until Damon got involved.

Damon had a reputation for inconsistency way back when, before he even got involved  with Hasslefree. It was a running joke on Frothers that his store was closed more often than it was open.

Now I wish them no ill will, but they are not my friends and they are running a business. They may have personal or health issues but at the end of the day, they are not my  friends, they are running a business, and if they can't fulfill their obligations they have no business taking people's money. End of story.

It's a shame because KW is a great sculptor and has produced some wonderful minis, but Damon has run the company into the ground.

Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 12, 2025, 12:31:10 PM
It might help if you had actually got his name right - Dameon not 'Damon', as in Dameon Craig Reynolds - if you can't get the details right, people will assume you've got everything wrong in your post. Just a friendly heads up, not a criticism.

Now we've really derailed this thread long enough - I only mentioned the company because the figures I was using were from them, sheesh!  lol
From now on, just 5PFH: Tactics on here, if you want to discuss the company in detail (real, imagined or malicious) then we can do that in a post on the General Wargames Discussion, not here.

So, as an update, I've managed to sort out 3 squads and then changed my mind slightly, I'm going to use these as Infantry with different ones as Recon and the helmeted ones as Assault. That seems to make sense in my head at any rate. I may now have to post pics.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 12, 2025, 01:18:29 PM
I may now have to post pics.
Yes please.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 12, 2025, 01:22:23 PM
I received my parcel from Anvil yesterday - seven day turnaround on POD items is half the expected time.

Only the autocannon is relevant to this thread (the rest are Zone Marauders which will end up in TWD:AOW or Zona Alfa - more distractions).
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 12, 2025, 02:36:57 PM
7 days IS very quick for printed models - but then someone the size of Anvil may well have some (at least the more popular sellers) already cast up. Autocannon eh? I may need some weapon teams sorted out.

And, possibly, a white long-haired cat!  lol
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: the commissar on June 12, 2025, 03:44:12 PM
Just ordered these from North Star and looking forward to a read - and coming up with a few new units (hopefully from the lead pile 😀)
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 12, 2025, 05:27:38 PM
Just ordered these from North Star and looking forward to a read - and coming up with a few new units (hopefully from the lead pile 😀)
It looks good - took me a while to get the hang of where everything was in the book (jumping from 'Rules' to 'Army Builder' to 'Weapon Tables') but I think I've got the hang of it now.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 12, 2025, 05:44:22 PM
It looks good - took me a while to get the hang of where everything was in the book (jumping from 'Rules' to 'Army Builder' to 'Weapon Tables') but I think I've got the hang of it now.
Yes, the suggestion of unit cards (real or virtual) in the book is a good one.

There does not appear to be a quick reference sheet in the book.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: Rick on June 12, 2025, 06:02:37 PM
Yes, the suggestion of unit cards (real or virtual) in the book is a good one.

There does not appear to be a quick reference sheet in the book.
Yeah - I've got 4 or 5 bookmarks in mine at the moment! Putting the weapon details on the unit card is a very good idea, or a multi-page qrs with the weapons and traits all on the same page - it took me hours to find those weapon tables the first time; I was becoming convinced that there would be a single line buried in the text saying "please refer to the 5PFH rulebook for weapons and traits".

How good are Modiphius at releasing support stuff like qrs pdf's and suchlike?
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: Autocannon 12/06/2025
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 12, 2025, 06:48:25 PM
So I ordered an Anvil British Space Force gun carriage from their print on demand range together with a pair of 16mm modern wheels and the autocannon.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgC1wZUCZiflcsjHCUXbZUBTCUIflOtyhO5mndiFAVCoVPAc0dArS1zjQMcz3-50zNQtukROBMx_sOtsM-hYzIgmbic8knewjZxNyHJMUMcpCrr1V5SuJmMsarmPa4sGD0mfqE_a5gKpZ7VE6-ljkA1UChlNkCpgjfvUobkqZHSjUWmlAzt4KKp_22L844M/s500/autocannon-0.png)

Here it is dry fitted, with a Stargrave Trooper.
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I am not sure how to crew this weapon.

The options are use a kneeling Anvil figure (not sure about the particular theme) or fit electronic sights and servos together with Stargrave troopers with remote controls.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: Autocannon 12/06/2025
Post by: Rick on June 12, 2025, 07:48:32 PM
I would always go with remote control in a sci-fi weapon if at all possible - easier to paint without a crew figure on one side, looks just as good and you can re-arrange all the crew if they get into close combat, for example. Plus there are enough r/c gubbins on the Stargrave sprue to equip the whole crew.
Very nice model though, I'm suddenly feeling a little, erm exposed - need more weapon teams!  lol
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics
Post by: hubbabubba on June 12, 2025, 07:52:05 PM
It might help if you had actually got his name right - Dameon not 'Damon', as in Dameon Craig Reynolds - if you can't get the details right, people will assume you've got everything wrong in your post. Just a friendly heads up, not a criticism.

Yes, I got his name wrong, but I'm pretty sure everyone knows who I'm talking about.

And you can say, it's just a friendly heads up, but it's pretty clear it's a criticism.

If you can't get the details right, people will assume you've got everything wrong in your post. ;)


Sorry for derailing your thread UVS. Won't happen again.

Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: Autocannon 12/06/2025
Post by: Westfalia Chris on June 13, 2025, 05:14:59 AM
Yes, please keep this on topic.  I'll see if the Hasslefree tangent should be split off later.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: some more figures built 15/06/2025
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 15, 2025, 09:23:43 AM
One more Converted.
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And yes, the new figure should have had an LMG.

And a medic Trooper.
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This Trooper is part of a weapon team, but is dealing with a more immediate threat.
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You maybe asking why there is no collective shot of these two figures?

Well, for reasons lost in the mists of time, I decided to base my figures for Rogue Stars on 30mm lipped bases. When Stargrave came out, I decided to continue doing so (having a number of figures actually painted and based on 30mm bases).

Unfortunately, I have run out of them at the moment, and, well, the two trooper figures have been base sharing.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: some more figures built 15/06/2025
Post by: hubbabubba on June 15, 2025, 10:06:50 AM
I must have a couple of hundred lipped bases that I'll never use as I don't care for them. Do you want to swap them for 25mm rounds?
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: some more figures built 15/06/2025
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 15, 2025, 02:29:27 PM
Thanks Hubbabba, but I base my Oathmark (and ultramoderns and Quar...) on Renedra 25mm round bases so I have to buy more of them than I get from the Stargrave boxes.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: some more figures built 15/06/2025
Post by: Rick on June 15, 2025, 05:05:59 PM
Pretty much everything I've got goes on flat Renedra bases of one size or another - I've never been much of a fan of those 'plinth' style slottabases.
Well this does give me a chance to pull ahead in this htpothetical arms race - I finished assembling 4 squads of Infantry the other day, which now need a bit of paint slapped on, and I've been resurrecting and painting a Grymm armoured car!  lol
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: some more figures built 15/06/2025
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 15, 2025, 06:26:33 PM
I am never going to win any painting races, today not helped by the distraction of some tortured souls.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: some more figures built 15/06/2025
Post by: Rick on June 20, 2025, 05:33:38 PM
If it's any consolation, I got distracted as well. I put some of the metal figures into dettol to clean off previous paint and I stumbled across some figures I'd put by in a box. A quick rebasing later and I have the start of a Soulless army for Tactics (more once I figure out where I put the other sprues) - finally found a use for Warlord Cybermen!  lol
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: A painted figure 01/09/2025
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on September 01, 2025, 06:04:10 PM
So, I first posted on this at the beginning of June.
The plan is eleven figures a side as a starter (minimum size for a skirmish).
So at this production speed, that will be four and a half years before both sides are painted.
Title: Re: UVS - 5PFH: Tactics: A painted figure 01/09/2025
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on September 01, 2025, 06:07:18 PM
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The analysis section had highlighted an increase in missing persons in the area around the pumping station (itself not far from where the pod from The Converted had landed - and supposedly sanitised)

As was standard protocol when dealing with a potential Converted incursion, we were dropped off a distance from the target location and had to approach on foot (to prevent the subversion of the transport and any escape out of the cordon area).

We knew we had the right place when a command node stepped out of the control building and started firing.

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The body is from the Scavengers set, the shotgun arms from the Crew set and the head from the Automata set