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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: HerbertTarkel on 10 June 2025, 03:29:58 AM

Title: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: HerbertTarkel on 10 June 2025, 03:29:58 AM
Watched a decent enough movie on Amazon today. “Pippa” tells the story of the 45th Indian Cavalry, equipped with the PT-76 “Pippa”, during the 13 day conflict leading to independent Bangladesh.

Bit of Bollywood, hilarious scene with Russian female advisor dancing as the gallant armoured captain tries to charm her.

Based on some accounts so there is a bit of historicity behind it, including a few news clips interspersed.

Had to watch with sub-titles.
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: Rick on 10 June 2025, 05:31:04 AM
The obligatory dance scenes are a bit jarring to western audiences but some Bollywood films are better than the Hollywood ones - "Baazigar" is probably better than "A kiss before dying" for example, certainly has more twists and turns in it.
May have to look out for "Pippa" at some point.
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: mikedemana on 10 June 2025, 05:38:31 PM
My "suspension of disbelief" alarm goes off anytime someone breaks out into a song or dance routine in a movie. That's why I abhor musicals...  lol

Mike Demana
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: HerbertTarkel on 10 June 2025, 06:30:38 PM
My "suspension of disbelief" alarm goes off anytime someone breaks out into a song or dance routine in a movie. That's why I abhor musicals...  lol

Mike Demana

It’s one scene. And it is of such good humour value it’s worth sitting through  lol

Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: carlos marighela on 13 June 2025, 12:18:48 AM
My "suspension of disbelief" alarm goes off anytime someone breaks out into a song or dance routine in a movie. That's why I abhor musicals...  lol

Mike Demana

God knows why. West Side Story remains one of the most accurate depictions of gang warfare and urban combat in general and it has some real toe tappers. :D

Cats on the other hand is an extremely well thought out critique of the worst excesses and the impending collapse of decadent venture capitalism, focussing on the entertainmnet industry for its narrative. Musically it is abysmal.
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: mikedemana on 13 June 2025, 06:29:43 PM
God knows why. West Side Story remains one of the most accurate depictions of gang warfare and urban combat in general and it has some real toe tappers. :D

Surely, when referring to the most accurate portrayal of gang warfare you meant this...?  ;) :D

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-EV8yougusuw9hKbcEeDx_ewehtmiWORF3vxRGcwi-GmiCaONC7eomww_-w-aQDMHVWdL_B3r7abePTYDXFm4ggMLgNNkWbBHpGKGEcEtMY4uO51M-LrGFK_MwiVJ6QtYFxQRGa0HOv8pjzYg-Ds69caXuUDptAGZ3bkeF0kwt75c3r0RXwdxnLSS/w500-h640/MeanStreetsCover_100dpi.jpg)

I mean, look at the author...how can you go wrong??  lol

Mike Demana
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: Rick on 13 June 2025, 07:06:15 PM
Surely, when referring to the most accurate portrayal of gang warfare you meant this...?  ;) :D

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-EV8yougusuw9hKbcEeDx_ewehtmiWORF3vxRGcwi-GmiCaONC7eomww_-w-aQDMHVWdL_B3r7abePTYDXFm4ggMLgNNkWbBHpGKGEcEtMY4uO51M-LrGFK_MwiVJ6QtYFxQRGa0HOv8pjzYg-Ds69caXuUDptAGZ3bkeF0kwt75c3r0RXwdxnLSS/w500-h640/MeanStreetsCover_100dpi.jpg)

I mean, look at the author...how can you go wrong??  lol

Mike Demana
Yes Mike, but do your rules have a soundtrack?  lol
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: carlos marighela on 13 June 2025, 11:19:18 PM
As Mr Meatloaf might have said 'You took the words right outta my mouth'.

Hmm... it opens up possibilities. Rules set to music. I guess the digital download is easy enough. For the print edition do we make it like those birthday cards that make a tinny Happy Birthday sound or do we package them with a CD? Oh and before you say millenials won't know what a CD is, I know the wargaming market, at least half would want a gramophone record.

Mike, you have a new goal in life. Write the first set of rules that makes it on to Spotify.  Mike and the Rules Mechanics.  :D
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on 14 June 2025, 07:12:32 AM
As Mr Meatloaf might have said 'You took the words right outta my mouth'.

Hmm... it opens up possibilities. Rules set to music. I guess the digital download is easy enough. For the print edition do we make it like those birthday cards that make a tinny Happy Birthday sound or do we package them with a CD? Oh and before you say millenials won't know what a CD is, I know the wargaming market, at least half would want a gramophone record.

Mike, you have a new goal in life. Write the first set of rules that makes it on to Spotify.  Mike and the Rules Mechanics.  :D
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=147776.msg1892959#msg1892959 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=147776.msg1892959#msg1892959)
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: Rick on 14 June 2025, 11:15:41 AM
R/c tanks have had sound boards for years, can't see a problem with fitting a sound board, speaker and battery into a rulebook hard cover - of course, on Kindle it would be even easier to link the book to a soundtrack file (or files) on the notebook or other device. Definitely do-able!  lol
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: mikedemana on 14 June 2025, 05:08:15 PM
Mike and the Rules Mechanics.

 :D lol

Sorry to threadjack this musical.  ;)

Mike Demana
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: HerbertTarkel on 14 June 2025, 05:32:05 PM
:D lol

Sorry to threadjack this musical.  ;)

Mike Demana


All we need is a miracle
All we need is … love  lol
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: Rick on 14 June 2025, 08:03:10 PM
Mike may be Silent Running at this point.

Either that or he's busy putting a tribute band together!  lol
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: Vis Bellica on 15 June 2025, 08:03:18 AM
To get things back on track (no pun intended), I enjoyed the movie as well - even if the sudden dance number did surprise me a bit!

Here's my review:

www.vislardica.com/blog/2024/1/11/the-pt-76-immortalised-pippa (http://www.vislardica.com/blog/2024/1/11/the-pt-76-immortalised-pippa)
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: AKULA on 15 June 2025, 10:15:05 AM
Hadnt heard of the movie before now, but will give it a look see, cheers

 :)
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: carlos marighela on 15 June 2025, 11:36:45 AM
Alas, they chose not to include the dance number on the trailer. Still, it looks OK for what it is. They got the fact that Pakistani armur was limited to Chafees in Bangladesh right.  Not so sure about using the PT-76's main gun for AA fire. Might have to have a look for the full movie.

I've always wanted to do the Indo-Pakistani wars. You can proxy the forces but I'd love to see someone come out witha dedicated range in 28mm. Unlikley though.
Title: Re: 1971 India-Pakistan War - Bangladesh movie “Pippa”
Post by: Rick on 15 June 2025, 11:22:32 PM
Alas, they chose not to include the dance number on the trailer. Still, it looks OK for what it is. They got the fact that Pakistani armur was limited to Chafees in Bangladesh right.  Not so sure about using the PT-76's main gun for AA fire. Might have to have a look for the full movie.

I've always wanted to do the Indo-Pakistani wars. You can proxy the forces but I'd love to see someone come out witha dedicated range in 28mm. Unlikley though.
28mm is still going to be unlikely. Elhiem do both Indian and Pakistan ranges of infantry figures for what I think is the right time period (no expert!) but in 20mm, not 28mm. Other than that, it might be a case of picking the closest figure and doing head swaps.