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Other Stuff => General Wargames and Hobby Discussion => Topic started by: Yarkshire Gamer on June 23, 2025, 01:33:27 PM
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Round 2 is underway and the above 8 ties will be set off one each day starting today 23rd June 25. Each vote link will appear here along with a quick description and picture and the result will replace the vote link when complete.
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We are off again with Round 2 of the Yarkshire Gamer World Cup of #Wargaming Pet Hates & match up one sees the #Podcast "favourite" Round Dice up against Rules with no Index, 3 days to vote, there can be only one !
Vote link https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CDUFi6uUL/ (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CDUFi6uUL/)
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Peeve: FACEBOOK ;)
My vote: smelly gamers. A group of my friends once did a timed pool for calling out “gamer funk” at an event; it was before the doors opened (my group was doing a table). So … a staff member. Ew. No names, it was a long time ago now. One of the crew I took with me, was known for being slovenly. So we did a group check - morning call, prior night shirt clean, shower check. Wasn’t going to be my crew.
My local “big shop” moved their card trading/sales area to its own entrance - there is something even worse about TCG gamers than miniature gamers, somehow.
Soap. Shampoo. Laundry. It’s NOT THAT HARD.
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Sounds more like a proper hate than a Pet Hate to me lol
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Yeah, amusingly that was my issue with the first overall round. People mistook "pet peeves" for..."basic fundamentals of human social interaction", etc.
To me, a pet peeve is something that bugs you...but that even you realize is being a little "picky". It may be prefaced by a statement such as, "I know it's weird...but damn I can't stand when...".
Someone being a huge douchebag, or being smelly (ran into that yesterday at the store)...isn't a pet peeve. It's a legitimate gripe. You're not weird if you want to interact with mature, hygienic human beings who can hold a conversation for more than two minutes without panicking.
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Yeah, amusingly that was my issue with the first overall round. People mistook "pet peeves" for..."basic fundamentals of human social interaction", etc.
To me, a pet peeve is something that bugs you...but that even you realize is being a little "picky". It may be prefaced by a statement such as, "I know it's weird...but damn I can't stand when...".
Someone being a huge douchebag, or being smelly (ran into that yesterday at the store)...isn't a pet peeve. It's a legitimate gripe. You're not weird if you want to interact with mature, hygienic human beings who can hold a conversation for more than two minutes without panicking.
I can only lead the horse to the water lol
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I can only lead the horse to the water lol
Can you make them take a bath lol
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Round 2 : Match Up 2
I've been banging on (and being completely ignored 😆) about this being a World Cup of Pet Hates and everyone keeps going full out hate, there is so much anger out there, my next Podcast may well be Whale Song to calm people down 😆
Having said that, both of today's nominations are real Hates of mine !
Points Battles - to quote Winston Churchill "Never in the field of human conflict have 2 generals added up so many points to make a Battle even" I played a few points based games against a competition player at my old club, you may have heard me mention Mad Angus McMadmurderer on the Podcast. I have played scenarios ever since.
Rules Lawyers - proved popular in the first round, they tend to be the sort of people who you only play once. We all need to know the rules but we don't need to avoid historical tactics and fun to spin the rules so we win a GAME.
Could be a close one this, so let's have your votes, 3 days to as Bucks Fizz said "Make Your Mind Up"
Vote link to FB
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16jLmuCFAU/ (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16jLmuCFAU/)
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Points battles, so common, not the worst.
Rules Lawyers? Right up there with real lawyers. THE WORST!
No contest, it’s the Rules Lawyer that wins (loses?) this round.
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Maybe, maybe not.
Points based systems, as a way of working out a broadly similar sized force, not so bad.
Points based players, who min/max their army, then charge units based on the targets points total and, to make matters worse, keep a running total of points won vs points lost on a turn by turn basis. Well, they can be irritating beyond belief.
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Maybe, maybe not.
Points based systems, as a way of working out a broadly similar sized force, not so bad.
Points based players, who min/max their army, then charge units based on the targets points total and, to make matters worse, keep a running total of points won vs points lost on a turn by turn basis. Well, they can be irritating beyond belief.
Agreed on the min/max type of competitive players - which are rather different from the normal, points based for easy balance for a pick up game type of gamer.
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Maxing out points lists got knocked out in Round 1 by Unpainted Miniatures on the table :)
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Maxing out points lists got knocked out in Round 1 by Unpainted Miniatures on the table :)
Unpainted miniatures?!? Horrid!
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Points based battles I am fine with. These are games and points are a mechanism to give each side an equal chance of winning. Doesn't always work.
Min-maxing army lists to squeeze out every possible advantage with little or no regard as to plausible force compositions? I class that with rules lawyering. It is trying to manipulate the mechanics of the game for advantage, playing by the strict letter rather than the spirit. Usually to the detriment of the enjoyment of everyone else at the table.
Rules Lawers are definitely worse than points games.
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Round 2 - Match Up 3
The 3rd vote in this round sees a proper Pet Hate Up against a real hate, so with you lot I know which one is going to win 🤣
Unpainted Flag Edges are a scurge on the hobby, I've seen the just beautiful painted figures on lovely bases which are amazing, but all I can see is a huge white line down the edge of the flag and that's all I can see, it's a two minute job, there are no excuses. Thanks to Giles Allison who put these I Wargames Room 101.
Rivet Counters - "I think you'll find" is a simple phrase but said in that certain nasal tone at a Wargames table you spent 5 years of your life putting together. We all like to be historically accurate but some can take it to a new level. Like the person who said my flag was too big on my Bradford City Pike Block, there is no helping some.
After the other votes I can see where this will go but for #Wargames sake think of those flag edges.
3 days to vote, starting now
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19ofUy8Uu7/ (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19ofUy8Uu7/)
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Round 2 : Match Up 4
I've given up trying to get it through to people that this is a Pet Hates World Cup but here goes anyway
Unclear Dice Faces - whether it be some logo where the six should be or some smart arse who decided that Sumerian Numbers would be absolutely fine with everyone (it isnt) having things other than dots or actual readable numbers on dice is a crime against humanity. And then there are game specific dice where your "faction" just has to have its own dice (at 15.99 a pop)
Smelly Gamers - apparently this really upsets people (making it an actual hate) but it's something I haven't encountered in a while. Maybe a scratch and sniff pad on the back of my next show ticket could remind me.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19UUxZxRpw/ (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19UUxZxRpw/)
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Round 2 : Match Up 5
Today we see a match up between two of the outside choices but the luck of the draw will see one if them in the Quarter Finals
Sabot Bases - this is personal to me but they drive me mad 😆 they are useful for modern periods where troops are spread out and make things easier to move but for a shoulder to shoulder unit they look like they are socially distanced and a very tempting target for someone on horseback. Add it to a doorstep base and the sky is literally the limit.
Incomplete Figure Ranges - 20 years after starting my WW1 Turkish Army with Woodbine Design figures they still haven't released the Cavalry, I'm obviously not that bothered 🤣 but this is for anyone who has been left hanging by a manufacturer after sinking hundreds of pounds into a project and they never bring out all the figures.
3 days to find out who the winner is
Vote link https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16tMEg9j9k/ (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16tMEg9j9k/)
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Unfortunately a trip to Ireland slowed down my posting but for those interested here are the results of Round 2
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Which means the Quarter Final lineup is as follows, first one starts Monday
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So 'pet hates' lost convincingly to 'hates'
Which rather proves the thesis that subtlety is lost online!
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So 'pet hates' lost convincingly to 'hates'
Which rather proves the thesis that subtlety is lost online!
I can only present the questions, the public have voted
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What is 'Painting Portaloo'?
I can't even work that one out from the words.
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What is 'Painting Portaloo'?
I can't even work that one out from the words.
It's a brush cleaning device, I think. If you go down and find the prelim round topic, there's a picture and a conversation about it!