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Title: PVA and laser copies
Post by: pixelgeek on August 11, 2025, 02:20:46 PM
Has anyone had any experience using watered down PVA glue to add bends and waves to banners printed on a colour laser copier?

Obviously an inkjet wouldn't work at all but I was curious if the heat process used to bond the toner to the paper would allow you to use PVA to add some motion/waves to banners?

I am going to be creating some banners for my Oathmark armies digitally (never could paint freehand) and then print them out at Staples.
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: anevilgiraffe on August 11, 2025, 02:50:23 PM
yep... works... I had a fully wrap around with designs on both sides and used PVA to glue the two ends, and waved/rippled it.
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: pixelgeek on August 11, 2025, 02:58:48 PM
Good to know. Thanks
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: pixelgeek on August 11, 2025, 02:59:35 PM
yep... works... I had a fully wrap around with designs on both sides and used PVA to glue the two ends, and waved/rippled it.

Did you apply PVA to the entire banner or just the sections where you wanted the wave?
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: anevilgiraffe on August 11, 2025, 03:29:02 PM
I glued both halves together, the whole thing got glue otherwise it would have peeled apart.
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: mikedemana on August 11, 2025, 07:12:13 PM
I do that, as well. Print my banners on the local office supply store's color laser printer and then use white glue to join the two halves around the pole. I then brace it against something so I can put whatever waves and flutters I want into it.

Mike Demana
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: SgtSlag on August 11, 2025, 07:18:32 PM
Yep, I've done it in the past, as well:  apply PVA Glue, fold in half, around the spear/pole arm shaft, shape, let dry.  Example #1 -- em-4 Dwarves (https://photos.app.goo.gl/4Zv2MtgtrSLSSS8a7), and Example #2 -- em-4 Orcs (https://photos.app.goo.gl/L8LY44Hhj63oDoT47).  These banners were printed on my HP Color Laser (toner) Printer, on regular copy paper.  Cheers!
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: Major_Gilbear on August 11, 2025, 08:02:43 PM
You could glue the banners to a (washed, opened out, and flattened) metal tomato puree tube, and that would allow you to bend and add waves to your flags and banners much more easily. I don't think you'd need a special printer then either, although a good-quality print is probably nice for banners anyway. :)
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: pixelgeek on August 11, 2025, 09:32:51 PM
You could glue the banners to a (washed, opened out, and flattened) metal tomato puree tube, and that would allow you to bend and add waves to your flags and banners much more easily.

I have one in the fridge that is waiting to be done with to try that out with. I want to save it for an especially long banner.

How sharp is the metal on those tubes when you cut them?
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: pixelgeek on August 11, 2025, 09:34:38 PM
I do that, as well. Print my banners on the local office supply store's color laser printer and then use white glue to join the two halves around the pole. I then brace it against something so I can put whatever waves and flutters I want into it.

Well I am glad that I asked as I had envisioned this apparently superfluous second step where I let the banners dry and then added PVA to just the areas where I wanted to have them wave

Yep, I've done it in the past, as well:  apply PVA Glue, fold in half, around the spear/pole arm shaft, shape, let dry.  Example #1 -- em-4 Dwarves (https://photos.app.goo.gl/4Zv2MtgtrSLSSS8a7), and Example #2 -- em-4 Orcs (https://photos.app.goo.gl/L8LY44Hhj63oDoT47).  These banners were printed on my HP Color Laser (toner) Printer, on regular copy paper.  Cheers!

Those look quite nice
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: 2010sunburst on August 11, 2025, 10:12:02 PM
Done this with self printed flags on an inkjet printer as well.  You just need to spray varnish the flags first to stop them bleeding colours.
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: pixelgeek on August 11, 2025, 11:20:31 PM
Done this with self printed flags on an inkjet printer as well.  You just need to spray varnish the flags first to stop them bleeding colours.

That would work as well. Did you use a matte varnish on the pages?
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: HerbertTarkel on August 12, 2025, 03:31:20 AM
I have one in the fridge that is waiting to be done with to try that out with. I want to save it for an especially long banner.

How sharp is the metal on those tubes when you cut them?

Just use tinfoil. It’s easier.
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: Fitz on August 12, 2025, 03:39:19 AM
The heavier foil from disposable baking trays is a decent weight for banners and what-not. I scuff it up on both sides with wet-&-dry paper before I paint or glue it; it seems to make them more resistant to handling.
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: HerbertTarkel on August 12, 2025, 04:26:55 AM
The heavier foil from disposable baking trays is a decent weight for banners and what-not. I scuff it up on both sides with wet-&-dry paper before I paint or glue it; it seems to make them more resistant to handling.

Agreed! Cut to shape, thicker than foil from wrap, but a bit sharper and more “cutty”.

Zac: be careful! Don’t cut yourself! I don’t won’t to hear you died from a banner malfunction.  lol
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: zemjw on August 12, 2025, 08:55:54 AM
I did the heavy foil thing on the last banner I made. I think I used double-sided tape to secure it to one side of the banner, so it didn't move about while the glue dried.

Don't forget to colour the inside edge of your banner before gluing. Lining the two sides up perfectly can be tricky, so pre-colouring stops any white from showing through, and is a lot less stressful than trying to patch after they're glued.
Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: Major_Gilbear on August 12, 2025, 09:12:26 AM
I have one in the fridge that is waiting to be done with to try that out with. I want to save it for an especially long banner.

How sharp is the metal on those tubes when you cut them?
Fairly sharp, but the metal is soft so you can easily buff the edges with a little fine abrasive paper or an emery board to smooth them.


Done this with self printed flags on an inkjet printer as well.  You just need to spray varnish the flags first to stop them bleeding colours.
Yeah, although I would spray both sides just to be sure the paper doesn't absorb enough moisture for the ink to bleed. (...perhaps that's what you do?).

Using something like canopy glue rather than cheap white PVA glue helps with these things as well, as there's less water in it.

I wonder, have you tried using spray mount?


The heavier foil from disposable baking trays is a decent weight for banners and what-not. I scuff it up on both sides with wet-&-dry paper before I paint or glue it; it seems to make them more resistant to handling.
This is a great idea, and a fine alternative to the puree tube. Unlike normal foil that's way too thin, this thicker stuff keeps a nice shape. :)

Title: Re: PVA and laser copies
Post by: pixelgeek on August 12, 2025, 01:27:39 PM
Zac: be careful! Don’t cut yourself! I don’t won’t to hear you died from a banner malfunction.  lol

What an ignoble way to go