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Title: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Malamute on 31 December 2009, 01:10:50 PM
Ok, as promised a step by step guide to the building of the governor's palace.

This will comprise the largest of my buildings for San Antonio De Bejar and will represent the home of the governor from Spanish times, through Mexican then into Texian independence. It will incorporate a small barracks, stable block, four separate balconies and many doors and windows.

Here is an overview of the basic model assembled so far, glued and pinned.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_31_12_09_1_51_56_0.jpg)

There are still some retaining walls to be added to the rear, but these will not be done until the model is glued onto the base board. That will happen after all the doors, windows and balconies have been added.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_31_12_09_1_51_56_1.jpg)

Here you can see I have started to add the door frames and window frames.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_31_12_09_1_51_56_2.jpg)

A close up of a basic plank door.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_31_12_09_1_51_56_3.jpg)

Here I am starting on the more ornate door of the entrance to the offices. This door will be representative of the panelled Spanish style doors that appear on more affluent houses and churches.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_31_12_09_1_51_56_4.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_31_12_09_1_53_25_0.jpg)

A close up of the finished door assembled and fitted.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_31_12_09_1_53_26_2.jpg)

And finally a progress shot so far. Adding the wooden detailing is probably the longest and hardest part. But its also the most rewarding as the buildings really start to take shape as these bits are added.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_31_12_09_1_53_25_1.jpg)

The large opening on the left will be a balcony that wraps aroound the side and joins another opening on the left hand side.

Right, I'm off for lunch and then back to work this afternoon before going out tonight to see in the new year :)
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Captain Gamma on 31 December 2009, 01:20:58 PM
It's rubbish! I hate it!  :-*

When its finished send it to me and I'll get rid of it for you. lol

Don't be resting on your laurels either! The world of Zorro needs constant attention. The devil makes work for sculptors who aren't fed regular designs. ;)

Lets have some more figures! Vamos!

I love this range.

Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Silent Invader on 31 December 2009, 01:22:06 PM
Thanks for sharing, I will enjoy following this.  A question tho, regarding the earlier stages of the build.  Do you work from a photo, a sketch, a plan, or is the basic structure 'simply'* imagined and built?

*Tho, of course, there is nothing simple about it!
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on 31 December 2009, 01:26:34 PM
That's a really good looking project Nick, keep up the good work!
David
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: JollyBob on 31 December 2009, 01:58:25 PM
Another lovely piece, and quite a size too! You'll have to get Bago round to take care of the sanding duties when its plastered, don't want to damage your own lungs!  lol
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: argsilverson on 31 December 2009, 02:06:23 PM
It looks very interesting!
can't wait to see it finished.
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Ray Rivers on 31 December 2009, 02:07:17 PM
 :-*

Madre Mia!

¿Tu es loco, o qué?

Es asombroso!
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Admiral Benbow on 31 December 2009, 02:47:53 PM
Wonderful. As is known, I love WIPs. And especially this one from the master of adobe architecture ...
 :-*

"Guten Rutsch!" as we say here in old Germany (meaning something like "Have a good sliding into the new year!")
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: richarDISNEY on 31 December 2009, 03:00:47 PM
FANTASTIC!!!!  :o Looking great!
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Svennn on 31 December 2009, 03:09:56 PM
You'll have to get Bago round to take care of the sanding duties when its plastered, don't want to damage your own lungs!  lol

He can do his own sanding thank you! I did some (about 30 seconds worth) on one of the previous buildings and thats his lot. Besides my lungs are f**ked enough anyway from all the smoking ::)
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Malamute on 31 December 2009, 03:56:28 PM
Thanks for sharing, I will enjoy following this.  A question tho, regarding the earlier stages of the build.  Do you work from a photo, a sketch, a plan, or is the basic structure 'simply'* imagined and built?

*Tho, of course, there is nothing simple about it!

All of the above :D

I usually get my inspiration to start from a photo, either a movie or a book. In the case of all the adobe buildings so far they have been heavily influenced by the recent Alamo movie which had a wonderful set for San Antonio De Bejar.
I used lots of stills as reference material.
Then I draw a basic sketch of what I want to make. Then draw the outline onto the base board to see if it will fit ok and work as a model when viewed from all sides.
Then I build it. Normally things get changed and slightly modified as I progress.
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Malamute on 31 December 2009, 03:58:08 PM
It's rubbish! I hate it!  :-*

When its finished send it to me and I'll get rid of it for you. lol

Don't be resting on your laurels either! The world of Zorro needs constant attention. The devil makes work for sculptors who aren't fed regular designs. ;)

Lets have some more figures! Vamos!

I love this range.



Have patience Amigo. ;)

The next release will be in a couple of weeks, then lots and lots of Mexicans in the spring. :D
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: odd duck on 31 December 2009, 04:11:17 PM
Looks Really good so far and will be stunning when finished!! That fancy door really impresses me though, just the thought of getting all those small pieces of wood glued in the right places gives me nightmares!!
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Galloping Major on 31 December 2009, 04:18:02 PM
Superb  :-*
Looking forward to following progress  8)
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Captain Gamma on 31 December 2009, 04:37:14 PM
Have patience Amigo. ;)

The next release will be in a couple of weeks, then lots and lots of Mexicans in the spring. :D

Splendido! Just in time for me to tranfer any of the profits from my own stuff straight into the bank of Malamute.
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: oxiana on 31 December 2009, 04:55:49 PM
Great stuff so far.

What are the dimensions of the base board?
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 31 December 2009, 06:51:03 PM
Nick, it goes without saying that I love it - but I'll say it anyway. It should be superb when finished!

As an aside, have you any pics of typical Presidio buildings? I've just read "The Mark Of Zorro" (again, after a 20 year hiatus) and quite a bit of it takes place in and around the Presidio. I have a couple of the one in San Antonio de Béxar, but nothing detailed enough to attempt a decent model.

Thanks for any help and a Happy New Year!.

Right, off to get paralytic  :D
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Helen on 31 December 2009, 08:49:01 PM
Stunning work Nick on the G Palace.

Helen
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Malamute on 01 January 2010, 09:51:39 AM
Great stuff so far.

What are the dimensions of the base board?

60cm x 30cm
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Malamute on 01 January 2010, 09:57:01 AM


As an aside, have you any pics of typical Presidio buildings? I've just read "The Mark Of Zorro" (again, after a 20 year hiatus) and quite a bit of it takes place in and around the Presidio. I have a couple of the one in San Antonio de Béxar, but nothing detailed enough to attempt a decent model.


Check out Presidio La Bahia, or Goliad as it is better known. (Site of the infamous massacre of Fannin's command during the Texas war.)

Its fully restored and presevered. There should be lots of useful stuff on the website.

http://www.presidiolabahia.org/

Let me know if you need more info and I'll have a look in my favourites at work next week

Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: gamer Mac on 01 January 2010, 11:15:31 AM
Nick this looks like it is going to be grand :-* :-*
Its huge :o
Love the detail on the door :-*
Looking forward to seeing the progress
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: duhamel on 01 January 2010, 05:19:10 PM
it's funny, it was just the same way we work. Except that I coat the walls before putting doors and windows. it keeps me from across the recorks crack. In any case, a beautiful building in anticipation: bravo!
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 02 January 2010, 10:13:42 AM
Check out Presidio La Bahia, or Goliad as it is better known. (Site of the infamous massacre of Fannin's command during the Texas war.)

Its fully restored and presevered. There should be lots of useful stuff on the website.

http://www.presidiolabahia.org/

Let me know if you need more info and I'll have a look in my favourites at work next week



That's the one I meant to say - I don't know why I wrote "San Antonio"  :?

I'll look at that link later.



Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Captain Blood on 02 January 2010, 06:57:56 PM
We're going to need a bigger table (and room).

Looking forward to seeing this progress  :)

More cuttings from the hebe will no doubt be required.
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Bugsda on 02 January 2010, 07:46:02 PM
Outstanding! Gave me a yearning to watch The new version Alamo all over again, and I missed the Italian Job because of it! ::)

"I have to warn you boys, I'm a screamer!"  lol
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: hohlinger on 02 January 2010, 08:21:29 PM
Just came back from a skiing trip and found this wonderful guide  ;D ;D ;D ... absolutely nice and I just can not wait to see the building finished.

And I also need a building for my governor for my pirate range  :D and new ideas are always welcome  :D :D :D

By the way will you add a bell tower???  lol lol lol
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Svennn on 02 January 2010, 08:23:49 PM
By the way will you add a bell tower???  lol lol lol

dont be daft he only does towers lol lol lol
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Furt on 02 January 2010, 09:22:23 PM
I especially love the detailed door - this will look great!  :-*
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Christian on 03 January 2010, 07:32:21 AM
That's incredible!

The fact that it will actually get used in games is what makes me the most envious :P

Do you do any interiors for your buildings? Have you ever had any need to?

Great work!
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: traveller on 03 January 2010, 04:43:03 PM
Mighty cool!!!!
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report
Post by: Malamute on 03 January 2010, 06:17:16 PM
Ok, a small update today.

Added the first of the louvred doors and a balcony.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_03_01_10_7_09_26_0.jpg)

Doors assembled and ready to add
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_03_01_10_7_09_26_1.jpg)

Balcony added too.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_03_01_10_7_09_26_2.jpg)

Progress so far:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/4/86_03_01_10_7_09_26_3.jpg)

Only three more of these to do, trouble is I have run out of balsa wood, so its off to Hobbycraft in the week.

Its also back to work tomorrow after the holidays, so progress will now be restricted to weekends and days off, and of course the required permission from Mrs M to enjoy myself ;)
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 03 January 2010, 06:39:17 PM
What sort of balsa do you need mate?

cheers

James
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Malamute on 04 January 2010, 08:51:23 AM
What sort of balsa do you need mate?

cheers

James

Cheers matey,

I'll bring some small pieces along tomorrow night to give you an idea, I have no idea what size they are or how they are measured. ::)
I aslo need some plastic tubing to support my flagpole.
I think my shopping list at Oshiro models is going to be a long one. lol
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Dewbakuk on 04 January 2010, 09:26:14 AM
While you're over there you might want to talk to Herr Bibbly about resin casting those doors. Given how many of them you use and how many people on the forum want to copy them, I suspect it'd be worth while. The balsa would need sealing I'd expect but then Jimmy knows his stuff :P
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 04 January 2010, 12:28:28 PM
I can do that  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: oxiana on 04 January 2010, 03:17:34 PM
Great doors - must have been very fiddly.


I aslo need some plastic tubing to support my flagpole.


On the other hand, you don't half leave yourself open to smutty innuendo...
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Malamute on 04 January 2010, 03:28:17 PM


On the other hand, you don't half leave yourself open to smutty innuendo...

 lol lol
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 04 January 2010, 03:59:41 PM
While you're over there you might want to talk to Herr Bibbly about resin casting those doors. Given how many of them you use and how many people on the forum want to copy them, I suspect it'd be worth while. The balsa would need sealing I'd expect but then Jimmy knows his stuff :P

After looking at plenty of reference pics, they are (http://very) accurate and would certainly be great time-savers, so would be ideal for many gamers doing Mexican/Texan/Californian projects. If I ever do get to make my Presidio, I'll certainly be able to use a few.

Boot Hill Minis first foray into resins?  ;)
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Malamute on 04 January 2010, 04:45:35 PM

Boot Hill Minis first foray into resins?  ;)

Who knows, today lead, tomorrow resin, wednesday the world  :D

Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Svennn on 04 January 2010, 04:54:27 PM
Perhaps Thursday teatime - you dont want to rush things :D
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 04 January 2010, 05:04:41 PM
Perhaps Thursday teatime - you dont want to rush things :D

No, look what happened to the Master, when he tried to cram world domination into two episodes!

As a very err "wise" man once wrote on the LAF, "slowly, slowly catchee monkey"

 lol
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: d phipps on 04 January 2010, 05:33:02 PM
Stunning work! Very inspiring!   :-*
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Hammers on 05 January 2010, 12:13:22 PM
Who knows, today lead, tomorrow resin, wednesday the world  :D



Another title to add to your name: White Metal Baron and Resin Nabob.
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Darkoath on 16 January 2010, 07:15:37 AM
How goes the work on the Goveror's Palace?  I am enjoying watching this project develop!  This one is probably even going to surpase your church! :-*

Darkoath
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Malamute on 16 January 2010, 08:39:01 AM
How goes the work on the Goveror's Palace?  I am enjoying watching this project develop!  This one is probably even going to surpase your church! :-*

Darkoath

Very slowly, been very busy bac at work since the holidays and haven't had any free time to get on with it.  >:(
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Grimm on 16 January 2010, 09:55:42 AM
OK Malamute
two questions

1.can you open the roofs of the buildings to play inside ?
If no why ?

2.I will order a place at your tabel next BLAM now !!  :D

very nice work
Grimm
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: Malamute on 16 January 2010, 10:25:23 AM
OK Malamute
two questions

1.can you open the roofs of the buildings to play inside ?
If no why ?

No, too much effort to add interiors lol

2.I will order a place at your tabel next BLAM now !!  :D

Great I will look forward to that game now :)

very nice work
Grimm
Title: Re: The Spanish Governor's Palace, a WIP report * UPDATE 3rd January*
Post by: timg on 19 January 2010, 04:19:04 PM
Looking very nice so far anyway Nick.